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1. 05:47 AM - Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures (gary)
2. 06:08 AM - Fuel Tank Sealant (Rob Hunter)
3. 07:25 AM - Protecting Fiberglass Parts (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
4. 07:34 AM - Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
5. 07:57 AM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (Jesse Saint)
6. 08:22 AM - Re: Protecting Fiberglass Parts (Vernon Smith)
7. 08:22 AM - Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures (David McNeill)
8. 08:23 AM - Re: Protecting Fiberglass Parts (pascal)
9. 08:26 AM - Composite Prop Repair (Mark Ritter)
10. 09:00 AM - Re: Composite Prop Repair (Rob Hunter)
11. 09:17 AM - Re: Protecting Fiberglass Parts (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
12. 09:19 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Sealant (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
13. 09:21 AM - Re: Composite Prop Repair (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
14. 09:41 AM - Re: Composite Prop Repair (Scott Schmidt)
15. 09:41 AM - Re: Composite Prop Repair (Mark Ritter)
16. 10:29 AM - Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures (Rick Sked)
17. 06:16 PM - FW: Dimple challenged tonight (Bob Leffler)
18. 06:42 PM - Re: FW: Dimple challenged tonight (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
19. 06:51 PM - Re: FW: Dimple challenged tonight (Rick Leach)
20. 07:54 PM - Re: Composite Prop Repair (LessDragProd@AOL.COM)
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Subject: | Op Tech Panel Pictures |
When I power mine up it doesn't look near as cool because the moving map
shows the surrounding area which is all green because the Midwest is pretty
flat. Looks good.
Gary
40274
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Op Tech Panel Pictures
Some folks are curious about the Op Tech EFIS screens. Today I got my
reassembled, painted, silkscreened, rewired panel powered up and shot
some pictures. I posted them on the website:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/slides/DSC05320.html
Dual Alt, Dual Batt
Dual Op Tech 8.4" 1500 NIT portrait EFIS
Dynon D10A backup EFIS, (w/ internal b/u battery)
Freeflight WAAS GPS
Heads UP XM weather receiver
SL30
SL40
JPI EIU
Shadin ADC
Crossbow AHRS
I haven't flown behind these yet, but every time I power them up and
'play' with them, I get all itchy!!!!!!!!!
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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Subject: | Fuel Tank Sealant |
How long can you go past the expiration date on the fuel tank sealant if
you kept it in the freezer since you received it.
Rob Hunter
40432
Fuel tanks
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Subject: | Protecting Fiberglass Parts |
I've realized it is going to be while before I get paint on my RV-10 so I
think I need to put something on the fiberglass parts to keep them from being
damaged from sunlight. It is hangared so it only gets exposed when flying or
parked at a destination airfield. I was thinking of just putting a coat of some
inexpensive Rustoleum primer on all the exposed fiberglass, do you think
that will that provide the UV protection necessary?
-Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
_http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew_ (http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew)
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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Subject: | Op Tech Panel Pictures |
Steinair also has them and can custom engrave the labels for you.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos A
Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Op Tech Panel Pictures
<carlosh@sec-engr.com>
Deems,
Where did you get the lighted rocker switches? I couldn't find that info
on your site.
Carlos in AZ
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Deems Davis wrote:
>
> Some folks are curious about the Op Tech EFIS screens. Today I got my
> reassembled, painted, silkscreened, rewired panel powered up and shot
> some pictures. I posted them on the website:
> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/slides/DSC05320.html
>
> Dual Alt, Dual Batt
> Dual Op Tech 8.4" 1500 NIT portrait EFIS
> Dynon D10A backup EFIS, (w/ internal b/u battery)
> Freeflight WAAS GPS
> Heads UP XM weather receiver
> SL30
> SL40
> JPI EIU
> Shadin ADC
> Crossbow AHRS
>
> I haven't flown behind these yet, but every time I power them up and
> 'play' with them, I get all itchy!!!!!!!!!
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
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Subject: | Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
I don't know if this is just for testing or actually available for
customers, but I saw the 3-blade Hartzell on an IO-540 Maule, I believe,
when I went to visit the factory recently. It definitely is the coolest
looking prop I've seen on a small plane, but for 3 times the MT price and 4
times the Hartzell 2-Blade metal blade price, I don't see it being used a
whole lot on RV-10's or Maule's, even if it does become available, although
some would likely fork over the cash to have something that "special".
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
Patrick - Don't go there. The Hartzell guys were evasive at Arlington
and downright rude at OSH. They want $27,000 for the three blade
composite which is now Type Certificated for the Cirrus SR-22 G2 and G3.
Which by the way runs on a Continental IO-550N or TSIO-550 from Tornado
Alley.
Several airshow performers have a more robust composite three blade on
IO-540s running higher compression pistons at upward of $35,000.
Their official answer, "Hah, If you want a three blade Hartzell for the
IO-540 then get VAN to personally request it otherwise.... Its not for
sale on kitbuilts to individual builders".
I came away licking my wounds and swearing that Deems and those who have
gone with AeroComp and an American Propeller three color finished paint
job have chosen wisely. If necessary, I kept their business cards in my
"Do not ever frequent business with these guys". Just my opinion.
Their two blade aluminum scimitar is the best you can get for the RV-10
if you want to climb slower (1700 fpm) and have VANS blessing.
John C
#40600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
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Subject: | Protecting Fiberglass Parts |
Jim,
Not a answer to your question but something to think about. What ever paint
you use, it would be nice if it is easily removable or at least compatible
with your final paint system. Otherwise it could be a bear when it is time
for final painting. There are sealer primers that will cover incompatible
paints, but why chance it if you don't have to. How do I know? Been there d
one that, on my first car restoration. Nothing as sickening as seeing your
new paint job blistering and peeling up.
Vern Smith (controls #324)
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From: JSMcGrew@aol.comDate: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:24:14 -0400Subject: RV10-Li
st: Protecting Fiberglass PartsTo: rv10-list@matronics.com
I've realized it is going to be while before I get paint on my RV-10 so I t
hink I need to put something on the fiberglass parts to keep them from bein
g damaged from sunlight. It is hangared so it only gets exposed when flying
or parked at a destination airfield. I was thinking of just putting a coat
of some inexpensive Rustoleum primer on all the exposed fiberglass, do you
think that will that provide the UV protection necessary?
-Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrewhttp://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew
AOL.com.
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Subject: | Op Tech Panel Pictures |
Another source is www.mcmaster.com .
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:34 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Op Tech Panel Pictures
Steinair also has them and can custom engrave the labels for you.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos A
Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Op Tech Panel Pictures
<carlosh@sec-engr.com>
Deems,
Where did you get the lighted rocker switches? I couldn't find that info
on your site.
Carlos in AZ
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Deems Davis wrote:
>
> Some folks are curious about the Op Tech EFIS screens. Today I got my
> reassembled, painted, silkscreened, rewired panel powered up and shot
> some pictures. I posted them on the website:
> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/slides/DSC05320.html
>
> Dual Alt, Dual Batt
> Dual Op Tech 8.4" 1500 NIT portrait EFIS
> Dynon D10A backup EFIS, (w/ internal b/u battery)
> Freeflight WAAS GPS
> Heads UP XM weather receiver
> SL30
> SL40
> JPI EIU
> Shadin ADC
> Crossbow AHRS
>
> I haven't flown behind these yet, but every time I power them up and
> 'play' with them, I get all itchy!!!!!!!!!
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Protecting Fiberglass Parts |
A few years ago I built a fairing for my motorcycle. I used a walmart
brand spray primer that was for wicker and fiberglass (rustoleum is more
for metals) I painted it yellow and the bike sits outside while I build.
No loss of color, no flaking, etc.. granted the speed is less than an RV
but it works.
Just get a primer that works for fiberglass and you'll be fine. Not sure
about the UV protection however, you might want to spray some paint on
top of the primer for the extra protection.
Personally, I would get a Home depot brand (behr) white primer/paint and
either spray it or roll it on.
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:24 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Protecting Fiberglass Parts
I've realized it is going to be while before I get paint on my RV-10
so I think I need to put something on the fiberglass parts to keep them
from being damaged from sunlight. It is hangared so it only gets exposed
when flying or parked at a destination airfield. I was thinking of just
putting a coat of some inexpensive Rustoleum primer on all the exposed
fiberglass, do you think that will that provide the UV protection
necessary?
-Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew
AOL.com.
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Subject: | Composite Prop Repair |
Does anyone know where I can find information on repairing nicks in an MT
composite prop (or any composite prop for that matter). I picked up a
several rock nicks over in Baja and used some JB Weld to repair the prop
that seems to be working but not sure if this is the best way.
Mark
RV-10/N410MR
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Subject: | Composite Prop Repair |
Mark,
Download the manual of the MT site and it will give you methods of
repair and what might have to be sent back to the shop.
http://www.mt-propeller.com/pdf/manuals/e-118.pdf
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Composite Prop Repair
Does anyone know where I can find information on repairing nicks in an
MT
composite prop (or any composite prop for that matter). I picked up a
several rock nicks over in Baja and used some JB Weld to repair the prop
that seems to be working but not sure if this is the best way.
Mark
RV-10/N410MR
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Subject: | Protecting Fiberglass Parts |
I believe you need something with a very high solids content in order to
protect from UV which is the primary concern. Just painting it won't do th
e job. I've seen fiberglass microwave antennas that were painted with a ra
ttle can paint and a year later it was in rough shape.
If it was me I would spend the extra couple $ and put on a coat of UV Smo
othprime even if it means sanding it off later just to do it again. It tak
es surprising little time for UV to degrade fiberglass and make it brittle.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Limbo
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of JSMcGrew@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Protecting Fiberglass Parts
I've realized it is going to be while before I get paint on my RV-10 so I t
hink I need to put something on the fiberglass parts to keep them from bein
g damaged from sunlight. It is hangared so it only gets exposed when flying
or parked at a destination airfield. I was thinking of just putting a coat
of some inexpensive Rustoleum primer on all the exposed fiberglass, do you
think that will that provide the UV protection necessary?
-Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew
AOL.com.
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Subject: | Fuel Tank Sealant |
If you are using it for anything critical like sealing your tank, I personally
wouldn't go much past the date. Tank sealant is cheap compared to the $time$
and aggravation of fixing leaks in a tank.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hunter
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:09 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Sealant
How long can you go past the expiration date on the fuel tank sealant if
you kept it in the freezer since you received it.
Rob Hunter
40432
Fuel tanks
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Subject: | Composite Prop Repair |
Did you try contacting Jim Ayers or the factory?
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Composite Prop Repair
Does anyone know where I can find information on repairing nicks in an MT
composite prop (or any composite prop for that matter). I picked up a
several rock nicks over in Baja and used some JB Weld to repair the prop
that seems to be working but not sure if this is the best way.
Mark
RV-10/N410MR
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Subject: | Re: Composite Prop Repair |
THE BAJA! I hope you type up a trip report and let us know where you went,
and which places you liked. =0AThere were 5 planes that left on Saturday f
rom my airport to the Baja for 10 days. They do a "boys" trip every year.
It sure sounds fun. =0A=0AI would call MT directly. They may say don't wor
ry about it at all. Alot of times it is difficult to keep the epoxy in the
nicks.=0AI've talked to them at Oshkosh and they said it really depends on
the size and if there are any cracks and if there are cracks the direction
of the cracks can be critical. =0AThey get concerned if there are cracks
that go in the direction of the chord but are less worried about cracks tha
t go along the prop. =0AGood luck and post some pictures. =0A =0AScott Schm
idt=0Ascottmschmidt@yahoo.com=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom
: Mark Ritter <mritter509@msn.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tu
esday, August 28, 2007 8:26:27 AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Composite Prop Repa
om>=0A=0A=0A=0ADoes anyone know where I can find information on repairing n
icks in an MT =0Acomposite prop (or any composite prop for that matter). I
picked up a =0Aseveral rock nicks over in Baja and used some JB Weld to re
pair the prop =0Athat seems to be working but not sure if this is the best
way.=0A=0AMark=0ARV-10/N410MR=0A=0A________________________________________
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Subject: | Composite Prop Repair |
Will give Ayers a call. Thanks
>From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>To: "rv10-list@matronics.com" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Composite Prop Repair
>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:21:10 -0500
>
><rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
>Did you try contacting Jim Ayers or the factory?
>
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
>Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:26 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Composite Prop Repair
>
>
>
>Does anyone know where I can find information on repairing nicks in an MT
>composite prop (or any composite prop for that matter). I picked up a
>several rock nicks over in Baja and used some JB Weld to repair the prop
>that seems to be working but not sure if this is the best way.
>
>Mark
>RV-10/N410MR
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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Subject: | Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures |
I picked up Honeywell AML 34 series from Newarkone electronics, you'll save about
$10 a switch from them...if there is a demand you can save big dollars on a
large purchase. You can get them engraved at the link you already posted, plus
they sell the caps as well if you want, you need to read the part numbers carefully,
some can be lighted some can't but they are very high quality switches,
be prepared to spend at least $30 for each one.
Rick S.
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:35:34 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Op Tech Panel Pictures
Where did you get the lighted rocker switches? I couldn't find that info
on your site.
Carlos in AZ
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http://www.engravers.net/aircraft/rocker_switches.htm
http://www.engravers.net/rocker-switches/aml34-36.htm#Rocker%20Switch%20
Info
Robin
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Subject: | FW: Dimple challenged tonight |
While dimpling the skins of the elevator, I started getting tired and was
pushing myself to complete the tasks at hand. As you might suspect, Murphy
showed up and I screwed up. The attached picture isn't all that good, but
you can clearly see that I missed the hole and it's now elongated. This
is the bottom outside corner of the trailing edge of the elevator.
I see my options as:
1. The anal perfectionist in me wants to order a new skin.
2. Find a way to make a repair that doesn't look too bad.
3. Whatcha worried about, just keep building, the proseal will keep
things together.
Thoughts, comments?
Thanks,
Bob
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Subject: | FW: Dimple challenged tonight |
Any chance you can drill it to a 30 and use an oops rivet?
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:16 PM
Subject: RV10-List: FW: Dimple challenged tonight
While dimpling the skins of the elevator, I started getting tired and was p
ushing myself to complete the tasks at hand. As you might suspect, Murphy
showed up and I screwed up. The attached picture isn't all that good, but
you can clearly see that I missed the hole and it's now elongated. This
is the bottom outside corner of the trailing edge of the elevator.
I see my options as:
1. The anal perfectionist in me wants to order a new skin.
2. Find a way to make a repair that doesn't look too bad.
3. Whatcha worried about, just keep building, the proseal will keep t
hings together.
Thoughts, comments?
Thanks,
Bob
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Subject: | FW: Dimple challenged tonight |
We've all been there. Looks like you can drill it larger and use an oops
rivet. If you can keep it smooth and the trailing edge is not out of whack,
it'll fly. Keep on building.
Rick
40397
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:16 PM
Subject: RV10-List: FW: Dimple challenged tonight
While dimpling the skins of the elevator, I started getting tired and was
pushing myself to complete the tasks at hand. As you might suspect, Murphy
showed up and I screwed up. The attached picture isn't all that good, but
you can clearly see that I missed the hole and it's now elongated. This
is the bottom outside corner of the trailing edge of the elevator.
I see my options as:
1. The anal perfectionist in me wants to order a new skin.
2. Find a way to make a repair that doesn't look too bad.
3. Whatcha worried about, just keep building, the proseal will keep
things together.
Thoughts, comments?
Thanks,
Bob
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Subject: | Re: Composite Prop Repair |
Use 5 minute Epoxy.
It's use and the acceptable repair information is in the manual you received
with the propeller.
You know where the manual is. It is in the little paper envelope with the
other propeller documents, that you stored in a safe place. :-)
Regards,
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 08/28/2007 8:29:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
mritter509@msn.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
Does anyone know where I can find information on repairing nicks in an MT
composite prop (or any composite prop for that matter). I picked up a
several rock nicks over in Baja and used some JB Weld to repair the prop
that seems to be working but not sure if this is the best way.
Mark
RV-10/N410MR
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