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1. 02:10 AM - Re: First time Epoxy (Michael Wellenzohn)
2. 02:31 AM - Re: First time Epoxy (Patrick ONeill)
3. 04:36 AM - Re: First time Epoxy (Larry Rosen)
4. 04:59 AM - Re: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you're in the buying mood (linn Walters)
5. 05:05 AM - Re: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you're in the buying mood (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 06:26 AM - Re: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you're in the buying mood (Tim Olson)
7. 07:00 AM - Re: First time Epoxy (Rene)
8. 07:22 AM - Re: Lights, Engine, & FF Kit Q's (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
9. 10:07 AM - Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? (Michael Wellenzohn)
10. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? ()
11. 11:14 AM - Re: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you're in the buying mood (Bill DeRouchey)
12. 01:48 PM - New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! (Matt Dralle)
13. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? (Chris and Susie McGough)
14. 02:32 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? (Larry Rosen)
15. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? (Chris and Susie McGough)
16. 03:00 PM - Re: Lights, Engine, & FF Kit Q's (orchidman)
17. 03:08 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? (Robin Marks)
18. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? (Chris and Susie McGough)
19. 04:06 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? (Chris and Susie McGough)
20. 05:51 PM - Fuselage dimensions on gear (Jesse Saint)
21. 07:59 PM - Re: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you're in the buying mood (John W. Cox)
22. 08:00 PM - Re: New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! (John W. Cox)
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| Subject: | Re: First time Epoxy |
Thank you guys for your answers. According to what you wrote I should be fine.
Sorry to ask one one question for the door shell gluing. Do you apply the epoxy
with a brush on the parabeam glass until its wet and then put it on the door
shell?
Michael
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | First time Epoxy |
I haven't gotten to the glass parts of the construction yet, but I was
wondering if most people are using the slow hardener? I haven't worked with
fiberglass for a while, but I did do a lot of glass work on boats years ago.
I remember the West slow hardener as taking forever to kick and always used
the fast. Do some of the tasks require that long of a pot life or cure
time?
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:20 AM
Subject: RV10-List: First time Epoxy
--> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Today I used for the first time epoxy, after I read through Tims website I
bought West System and the pump kit. I used the 206 Hardener (slow) plus the
thickener 406 Colloidal Silica and glued the gas strut attach doubler in the
inner door shell.
After at least 1 hour the epoxe still wasn't hard, it definately got harder
but I was under the assumption that it will be hard as a brick after half an
hour.
Is that normal?
Michael
www.wellenzohn.net
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: First time Epoxy |
Use the slow hardener when joining the door shells. You will want the
extra time.
I used one of those small metal handled brushes that plumbers use to wet
out the parabeam glass, but any brush would work.
Larry
Patrick ONeill wrote:
>
> I haven't gotten to the glass parts of the construction yet, but I was
> wondering if most people are using the slow hardener? I haven't worked with
> fiberglass for a while, but I did do a lot of glass work on boats years ago.
> I remember the West slow hardener as taking forever to kick and always used
> the fast. Do some of the tasks require that long of a pot life or cure
> time?
>
> Best Regards,
> Patrick #40715
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Wellenzohn
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:20 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: First time Epoxy
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>
> --> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>
> Today I used for the first time epoxy, after I read through Tims website I
> bought West System and the pump kit. I used the 206 Hardener (slow) plus the
> thickener 406 Colloidal Silica and glued the gas strut attach doubler in the
> inner door shell.
>
> After at least 1 hour the epoxe still wasn't hard, it definately got harder
> but I was under the assumption that it will be hard as a brick after half an
> hour.
>
> Is that normal?
>
> Michael
>
> www.wellenzohn.net
>
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> RV-10 builder (wings)
> #511
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| Subject: | Re: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you're |
in the buying mood
Just my two pennies, but here's the way I look at it:
The only difference in the present ELT arena will be loss of satellite
detection in 2009. I'm not sure if there were many (if any) 'saves'
through an ELT/satellite link, but the general consensus (from what I'm
hearing) is that an ELT by itself just doesn't save lives. It was a
great idea, but poor execution. We've lived with this system without
really thinking about it.
The EPIRBs that boaters have been using for decades work a whole lot
better ...... but you have to manually set one off unless you crash into
a lake as they're water activated ..... and they have to be able to
float to the surface to work. They won't work on the bottom of the lake.
So, to answer your question ..... I probably won't do anything different
than I am now. If I really become more concerned that something will
happen over severe mountainous or wooded terrain .... or really remote
places ..... like Fossett ...... then I might invest in a personal
EPIRB. AOPA is pushing to have the transfer to 406Mhz voluntary Vs.
mandatory like the ELT because of the impact on production and peoples
wallets. I agree. When the Gov't mandates equipment, we seem to get
minimalist crap that doesn't work out like they predict. The ELT fiasco
is a prime example.
ADS-B might make things a little better, but to answer another posted
question about aircraft that stop at something other than an airport
...... we have seaplanes, helicopters, hunters/fishers that do this all
the time, so that won't work.
Bottom line, if the price of locaters of any flavor don't come way down
then I guess we're stuck with mandated ELTs and a system that we
probably won't notice any change in when the satellites quit listening.
Linn
do not archive
Patrick ONeill wrote:
> I was actually thinking about this the other day. What are builders
> installing right now? TSO-C91a (121.5mhz/243mhz) or TSO-C126 (406mhz)?
>
> As I understand it C91a still satisfies FAR 91.207 but will be of
> limited utility after Feb 1, 2007. I am curious as to what other
> builders are installing.
>
> I haven't purchased one yet but was planning on a C126 unit. They are
> all expensive and prices range widely. Does anyone have make/model
> recommendations for C126 devices?
>
> Best Regards,
> Patrick #40715
>
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| Subject: | FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you're |
in the buying mood
Personally, I'm going with a 121.5 for now and then I will also be purchasi
ng a 406 PLB like the Microfix. Of course this scenario requires someone t
o be conscious to activate the PLB
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case
you're in the buying mood
I was actually thinking about this the other day. What are builders instal
ling right now? TSO-C91a (121.5mhz/243mhz) or TSO-C126 (406mhz)?
As I understand it C91a still satisfies FAR 91.207 but will be of limited u
tility after Feb 1, 2007. I am curious as to what other builders are instal
ling.
I haven't purchased one yet but was planning on a C126 unit. They are all
expensive and prices range widely. Does anyone have make/model recommendat
ions for C126 devices?
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:19 AM
Subject: RV10-List: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you
're in the buying mood
Termination of 121.5 MHz Beacons for Satellite Alerting is Coming Soon
Notice Number: NOTC0981
On 1 February 2009, the International Cospas-Sarsat [1][1] Organization (U.
S. included) will terminate processing of distress signals emitted by 121.5
MHz Emergency Locator Transmitters (ELTs). This means that pilots flying a
ircraft equipped with 121.5 MHz ELTs after that date will have to depend on
pilots of over flying aircraft and or ground stations monitoring 121.5 to
hear and report distress alert signals, transmitted from a possible crash s
ite.
Why is this happening?
Although lives have been saved by 121.5 MHz ELTs, the downside has been the
ir propensity to generate false alerts (approximately 98 percent of all 121
.5 MHz alerts are false), and their failure to provide rescue forces with t
imely and accurate crash location data. Both of which actually delay rescue
efforts and have a direct effect on an individual's chance for survival. R
escue forces have to respond to all 121.5 MHz alerts to determine if they a
re real distress alerts or if they are being generated by an interferer, an
inadvertent activation (by the owner) or equipment failure.
Is there an alternative?
Yes, the Cospas-Sarsat System (U.S. included) has been and will continue pr
ocessing emergency signals transmitted by 406 MHz ELTs. These 5 Watt digita
l beacons transmit a much stronger signal, are more accurate, verifiable an
d traceable to the registered beacon owner (406 MHz ELTs must be registered
by the owner in accordance with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) re
gulation). Registration allows the search and rescue authorities to contact
the beacon owner, or his or her designated alternate by telephone to deter
mine if a real emergency exists. Therefore, a simple telephone call often s
olves a 406 MHz alerts without launching costly and limited search and resc
ue resources, which would have to be done for a 121.5 MHz alert. For these
reasons, the search and rescue community is encouraging aircraft owners to
consider retrofit of 406 MHz ELTs or at a minimum, consider the purchase of
a handheld 406 MHz Personal Locator Beacon (PLB) which can be carried in t
he cockpit while continuing to maintain a fixed 121.5 MHz ELT mounted in th
e aircraft's tail.
Remember, after February 1, 2009, the world-wide Cospas-Sarsat satellite sy
stem will no longer process 121.5 MHz alert signals. Pilots involved in air
craft accidents in remote areas will have to depend on pilots of over flyin
g aircraft and or ground stations to hear emergency ELT distress signals. F
or further information concerning the termination of 121.5 MHz data process
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[1][1] The Cospas-Sarsat Organization provides a satellite based world-wide
monitoring system that detects and locates distress signals transmitted by
Emergency Locator Transmitters (ELTs), Emergency Position Indicating Radio
Beacons (EPIRBs) and Personal Locator Beacons (PLBs). The system includes
space and ground segments which process the signals received from the beaco
n source and forwards the distress alert data to the appropriate RescueCoor
dinationCenter for action.
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| Subject: | Re: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you're |
in the buying mood
Same here. I'm going to wait until the time comes that you can
actually pay a reasonable cost for a 406 ELT with GPS position
capability. Right now there's way too much cost difference, and
everyone knows that the actual complexity difference isn't all that
big by todays standards. I kind of wish they'd come up with a way
to urge the companies to play ball better to get us to switch.
Same with ADS-B...right now, it's just priced too high for the little
benefit you can get compared to other technologies. I'll have many
years of flying with Mode S that actually gives quite good coverage
in the busy air, before ADS-B makes enough progress nationwide
to warrant spending money on it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> Personally, Im going with a 121.5 for now and then I will also be
> purchasing a 406 PLB like the Microfix. Of course this scenario
> requires someone to be conscious to activate the PLB
>
>
>
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| Subject: | First time Epoxy |
I used the slow for the joining the doors and have used fast everywhere
else. When it is real hot out side, >90F, I just make smaller batches and
work faster. :)
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 3:41 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: First time Epoxy
I haven't gotten to the glass parts of the construction yet, but I was
wondering if most people are using the slow hardener? I haven't worked with
fiberglass for a while, but I did do a lot of glass work on boats years ago.
I remember the West slow hardener as taking forever to kick and always used
the fast. Do some of the tasks require that long of a pot life or cure
time?
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:20 AM
Subject: RV10-List: First time Epoxy
--> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Today I used for the first time epoxy, after I read through Tims website I
bought West System and the pump kit. I used the 206 Hardener (slow) plus the
thickener 406 Colloidal Silica and glued the gas strut attach doubler in the
inner door shell.
After at least 1 hour the epoxe still wasn't hard, it definately got harder
but I was under the assumption that it will be hard as a brick after half an
hour.
Is that normal?
Michael
www.wellenzohn.net
--------
RV-10 builder (wings)
#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133258#133258
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| Subject: | Lights, Engine, & FF Kit Q's |
My answers:
#1 I polished the plate and then clear coated it
#2 Since I have an Eggenfellner Subaru I can tell you Falcon insurance does not
differentiate between engines, Lycoming certified or not, or Eggenfellner. They
were charging the same rate regardless.
Dan
N289DT RV10E
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:35 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Lights, Engine, & FF Kit Q's
I have a couple questions. Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated.
1. For the stock VANs landing lights, the visible aluminum piece (W-1032) that
the light is mounted to and the light shines through, what are people doing with
it? Are you painting it with the airplane color paint, polishing it and then
clear coating it to keep it bright, or ???
2. I am starting to work with my local engine shop and one question that came up
early in the conversation was experimental or certified? I asked him why he
asked and he explained the differences in the engine that he was talking about
and I can live with them. The pro is saving several thousand $ but he said that
some people want certified for insurance reasons. My question is that when
you went for insurance on your 10, did they ask about the engine whether it
was certified or not and if so what were the differences in premiums and insurability?
Was there a difference?
3. I will be ordering my firewall forward kit in the next month and am starting
to collect thoughts about substitutions. The alternator is the Deluxe Plain
Power 60 A. which I think is fine for my needs. I might sub the oil cooler.
There has been some discussion here lately about a replacement cooler but when
I have gone to the sites, the replacement model is not that obvious. For those
suggesting a substitute, do you have any model numbers? If I do sub, I would
like to get the correct one the first time. The other item up for consideration
to be substituted are the hoses. Is there anything else that people might
suggest modifying the FF Kit?
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
In case you have the door guide and pin set could you probably give me close up
photos and measurements?
I didn't get any order confirmation or reply or any communication at all. I will
produce them myself and if they come out good I might produce more for people
interested.
I cannot understand how people can be so ignorant about customer. I mean I am just
expecting an email. I don't even recall how many weeks ago I ordered these
parts, and I don't even have a clue if they ever received it. Emails or phone
calls are not answered.
Michael
www.wellenzohn.net
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
Amen
hugo
> do not archive
> From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
> Date: 2007/09/08 Sat PM 01:06:29 EDT
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
>
>
> In case you have the door guide and pin set could you probably give me close
up photos and measurements?
> I didn't get any order confirmation or reply or any communication at all. I will
produce them myself and if they come out good I might produce more for people
interested.
> I cannot understand how people can be so ignorant about customer. I mean I am
just expecting an email. I don't even recall how many weeks ago I ordered these
parts, and I don't even have a clue if they ever received it. Emails or phone
calls are not answered.
>
> Michael
>
> www.wellenzohn.net
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (wings)
> #511
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133415#133415
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| Subject: | Re: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you're |
in the buying mood
I looked at the Artex ME406 at product launch and was very disappointed that they
did not provide GPS coordinates xmitted with the packet. Sent email to their
product management asking why they did not provide an RS232 receive pin that
builders could route Aviation Data Packets from an existing GPS nav without incurring
major additional costs. No response. When the next wave of 406 ELT's
are provided from no-name manufacturers this simple feature will differentiate
them from Artex.
Also, the Artex battery is a 5 year Lithium valued at $200.
However, if you look closely at the value of 121.5Mhz in rescue operations it
is worthless. The probability of a false signal is so high that the rescue services
sit on the report until additional confirmation is available. The next
day they begin to search a 400 sq nm area. I grumbled and purchased the ME406
because I did not want to be downed and sit there for hours thinking that the
additional $500 was nothing after all the tens of thousands. . . .
The 406 Personal Locator Beacons make sense but the increased volume of calls
will creat some interesting changes. The signals from boats, aircraft, and persons
can be catagorized from the transmitted packet and routed to different entities.
I know the Coast Guard and the Aviation world have excellent search resources
but I am uncertain what the response time for a PLB alert would be as
the volume increases.
Bill DeRouchey
N939SB, flying
billderou@yahoo.com
Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
Same here. I'm going to wait until the time comes that you can
actually pay a reasonable cost for a 406 ELT with GPS position
capability. Right now there's way too much cost difference, and
everyone knows that the actual complexity difference isn't all that
big by todays standards. I kind of wish they'd come up with a way
to urge the companies to play ball better to get us to switch.
Same with ADS-B...right now, it's just priced too high for the little
benefit you can get compared to other technologies. I'll have many
years of flying with Mode S that actually gives quite good coverage
in the busy air, before ADS-B makes enough progress nationwide
to warrant spending money on it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> Personally, Im going with a 121.5 for now and then I will also be
> purchasing a 406 PLB like the Microfix. Of course this scenario
> requires someone to be conscious to activate the PLB
>
>
>
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| Subject: | New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! |
Dear Listers,
Today 9/8/2007 I have added a new real-time spell checker function to all of the
BBS Forums at Matronics. When you reply or create a new message on the Forums,
you will notice that misspelled words will be high-lighted in yellow. If
you left-click on the word, you will be prompted with a drop-down list of suggested
spellings.
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matornics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
Yep we are still waiting to. Hope we have not blown $100 AUS
Chris
Melb AUS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 3:06 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>
> In case you have the door guide and pin set could you probably give me
> close up photos and measurements?
> I didn't get any order confirmation or reply or any communication at all.
> I will produce them myself and if they come out good I might produce more
> for people interested.
> I cannot understand how people can be so ignorant about customer. I mean I
> am just expecting an email. I don't even recall how many weeks ago I
> ordered these parts, and I don't even have a clue if they ever received
> it. Emails or phone calls are not answered.
>
> Michael
>
> www.wellenzohn.net
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (wings)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133415#133415
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
I placed an order with them. Didn't hear boo, but after 3 weeks a
package showed up at my door. The quality of the products are
outstanding. Be patient, they will show up and you will be pleased.
The product fill a void and I am grateful that Rivethead is helping out.
If you still want dimensions let me know, but I doubt the effort to
build them yourself would be worth it.
Larry
Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
>
> In case you have the door guide and pin set could you probably give me close
up photos and measurements?
> I didn't get any order confirmation or reply or any communication at all. I will
produce them myself and if they come out good I might produce more for people
interested.
> I cannot understand how people can be so ignorant about customer. I mean I am
just expecting an email. I don't even recall how many weeks ago I ordered these
parts, and I don't even have a clue if they ever received it. Emails or phone
calls are not answered.
>
> Michael
>
> www.wellenzohn.net
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (wings)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133415#133415
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
Maybe we could go through PAYPAL and try and get our money back. Its a hard
one as people say he will deliver but how long is one meant to wait with no
comunication from supplier. Is 2 months to long?
Its a bit hard to knock on his door from the other side of the world.
regards Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 3:06 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>
> In case you have the door guide and pin set could you probably give me
> close up photos and measurements?
> I didn't get any order confirmation or reply or any communication at all.
> I will produce them myself and if they come out good I might produce more
> for people interested.
> I cannot understand how people can be so ignorant about customer. I mean I
> am just expecting an email. I don't even recall how many weeks ago I
> ordered these parts, and I don't even have a clue if they ever received
> it. Emails or phone calls are not answered.
>
> Michael
>
> www.wellenzohn.net
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (wings)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133415#133415
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lights, Engine, & FF Kit Q's |
[quote="LloydDR(at)wernerco.com"]My answers:
#1 I polished the plate and then clear coated it
#2 Since I have an Eggenfellner Subaru I can tell you Falcon insurance does not
differentiate between engines, Lycoming certified or not, or Eggenfellner. They
were charging the same rate regardless.
Dan
N289DT RV10E
--[/quote
Good news, thanks. Since even Van's sells both, I was a little concerned but wanted
to ask.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133513#133513
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
I had a similar situation where I ordered the product and paid via PP
but I paid to the email address on his product website (I think
rvsilverbullet@comcast.net) unfortunately he did not have a PP account
under that address and thus was never notified of the purchase. The
refund from PP was easy (for a change) and I did finally get him on the
phone and my parts shipped immediately but the total time was ~6 weeks
from first order to receipt.
As a long time e-merchant of many different items from many different
sites I can appreciate the challenges of a mom & pop situation however
if you don't take care of you don't take care of your customer they
won't take care of you. Even more so with a small community like the -10
folks.
I personally own all the software & Haas CNC mills to make any of these
products but no inclination for mass production.
Robin
Engine arrives in 3 weeks
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
Lucky you try 2 months and still waiting!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
>
> I placed an order with them. Didn't hear boo, but after 3 weeks a package
> showed up at my door. The quality of the products are outstanding. Be
> patient, they will show up and you will be pleased. The product fill a
> void and I am grateful that Rivethead is helping out.
>
> If you still want dimensions let me know, but I doubt the effort to build
> them yourself would be worth it.
>
> Larry
>
> Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
>> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>>
>> In case you have the door guide and pin set could you probably give me
>> close up photos and measurements? I didn't get any order confirmation or
>> reply or any communication at all. I will produce them myself and if they
>> come out good I might produce more for people interested.
>> I cannot understand how people can be so ignorant about customer. I mean
>> I am just expecting an email. I don't even recall how many weeks ago I
>> ordered these parts, and I don't even have a clue if they ever received
>> it. Emails or phone calls are not answered.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> www.wellenzohn.net
>>
>> --------
>> RV-10 builder (wings)
>> #511
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133415#133415
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
Does anyone have a direct contact with this mob that could have a chat to
see what is going on as it has been 2 months I am happy to send the reciept
from Paypal.
They dont answer there phone or emails.
If not I will take it the money is lost and I will just put up with Vans
Parts
regards Chris
Melb Aus
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| Subject: | Fuselage dimensions on gear |
I am looking into buying a trailer that will fit the RV-10 fuselage. I have
indirect access to the numbers, but wanted to see if anybody else has the
info close by. Basically, I need to know how wide and tall the trailer
would have to be to fit the fuse, and how much smaller could the door be and
the fuse still get in? I am looking at a trailer that has interior
dimensions of 94" wide and 80.5" tall, and the door opening is 90" wide and
76.75". Do you think that will fit? I know it will be tight and may
require some jockeying, but will it fit?
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in case you're |
in the buying mood
The Chambers (Father and Son) who owned ARTEX till their sale to Chelton
are close personal friends. (Co-located next door to VANS) Your view on
the worthlessness of 121.5 is well documented with CAP rescue/recovery
operations. I will task them with a solution worthy of future RV-10
sales are report back.
Can't argue with the cost of batteries.
The perception of safety is often overcome by the reality of regulation
compliance with little regard to assisting a down pilot's prompt
location identification. Has anyone tested the mounting and signal
propagation from the wild antennae mount on a flying RV-10?
John
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
DeRouchey
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: FAA reminder of the change to 406 MHz ELTs, in
case you're in the buying mood
I looked at the Artex ME406 at product launch and was very disappointed
that they did not provide GPS coordinates xmitted with the packet. Sent
email to their product management asking why they did not provide an
RS232 receive pin that builders could route Aviation Data Packets from
an existing GPS nav without incurring major additional costs. No
response. When the next wave of 406 ELT's are provided from no-name
manufacturers this simple feature will differentiate them from Artex.
Also, the Artex battery is a 5 year Lithium valued at $200.
However, if you look closely at the value of 121.5Mhz in rescue
operations it is worthless. The probability of a false signal is so high
that the rescue services sit on the report until additional confirmation
is available. The next day they begin to search a 400 sq nm area. I
grumbled and purchased the ME406 because I did not want to be downed and
sit there for hours thinking that the additional $500 was nothing after
all the tens of thousands. . . .
The 406 Personal Locator Beacons make sense but the increased volume of
calls will creat some interesting changes. The signals from boats,
aircraft, and persons can be catagorized from the transmitted packet and
routed to different entities. I know the Coast Guard and the Aviation
world have excellent search resources but I am uncertain what the
response time for a PLB alert would be as the volume increases.
Bill DeRouchey
N939SB, flying
billderou@yahoo.com
Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
Same here. I'm going to wait until the time comes that you can
actually pay a reasonable cost for a 406 ELT with GPS position
capability. Right now there's way too much cost difference, and
everyone knows that the actual complexity difference isn't all
that
big by todays standards. I kind of wish they'd come up with a
way
to urge the companies to play ball better to get us to switch.
Same with ADS-B...right now, it's just priced too high for the
little
benefit you can get compared to other technologies. I'll have
many
years of flying with Mode S that actually gives quite good
coverage
in the busy air, before ADS-B makes enough progress nationwide
to warrant spending money on it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> Personally, I'm going with a 121.5 for now and then I will
also be
> purchasing a 406 PLB like the Microfix. Of course this
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| Subject: | New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! |
Matornics Email list spelled in the same article as spell checking...
Cute Matt.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: RV10-List: New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics
Forums!
Dear Listers,
Today 9/8/2007 I have added a new real-time spell checker function to
all of the BBS Forums at Matronics. When you reply or create a new
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