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1. 04:39 AM - Re: Fuel senders (Larry Rosen)
2. 06:10 AM - WSI AV-300 delivered (Tim Olson)
3. 07:00 AM - Re: Nose Wheel Torque (Tim Olson)
4. 07:17 AM - Re: WSI AV-300 delivered (Tim Olson)
5. 07:17 AM - Re: Fuel senders (John W. Cox)
6. 07:39 AM - Re: Fuel senders (Tim Olson)
7. 09:58 AM - Re: Fuel senders (John W. Cox)
8. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? (Ben Westfall)
9. 03:16 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? (Robin Marks)
10. 03:52 PM - Re: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? (PJ Seipel)
11. 06:20 PM - Re: WSI AV-300 delivered (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel senders |
John,
Look through the archives. You will find that you will get both
answers, use the gasket and don't use the gasket. I don't remember the
suggestion to replacing the rubber gasket with cork gasket. In my mind,
there is no convincing argument one way or the other.
My summary of what has been writen:
Use the gasket, it will ease removal of the sender in the future.
No gasket, the proseal will form the gasket, don't have to worry about
rubber or cork failure.
Larry
evmeg@snowcrest.net wrote:
>
>
> Throw out the gasket and just use sealant.....and a dab of it under each
> screw head as well. As you tighten, it will squidge out and make a perfect
> gasket.
> Cheers....
> Evan
>
>
>
>>
>> What have others done when putting in there fuel senders. Are people using
>> the rubber supplied gasket in addition to the proseal or just using the
>> proseal?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John G. #409, building again
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | WSI AV-300 delivered |
Yesterday I picked up my AV-300 WSI receiver from SteinAir, my dealer. I
haven't powered it yet, but hope to within the next day or two. It's a
nice looking box, complete with the ability to separately talk to 2 full
EFIS's and one "Listen Only" box, and also via ethernet it can talk to
tablet PC's and other PC based systems without using serial. It looks
like perhaps all receivers are actually audio-integrated, but you need a
bit of external hardware for the sirius radio options.
Right now I'm just trying to get clarification on the antenna mounting
because with the previous system, it was stated at least by Comant that
a ground plane wasn't needed, but the install manual for the AV-300
antenna seems to indicate that best performance is with a 12" or larger
ground plane. I've not had to install a ground plane on fiberglass
canopies before, and so I'll either be adding one to my canopy top and
see if the ground plane still works when it's 1" below the antenna base,
or I'll be getting some additional cable and mounting my antenna back on
the forward tailcone top. I've asked WSI for comments and will pass them on.
Just thought y'all would like to know they've actually delivered one.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Nose Wheel Torque |
Jeff,
You know, after seeing what it did to the forks and now seeing people
with the new aluminum spacers have them deform to fit the taper of
the harder steel bearings, I'm convinced more than ever that
simple things like the torque value are not a good permanent fix.
That torque value will change drastically over the first hours of
operation, and it will continue to change for a long time. It
will keep loosening as the bearing seats better and wears and the
aluminum or stainless (if you're still nuts enough to use the stock
original spacer as-is) spacer develops it's taper to match the bearing.
Over time, you will find it will, without a doubt, loosen up, and
will likely at some point start spinning. Many people are now
finding some great ways to keep the spacer from turning. Van's
latest SB seems be just a torque spec designed to keep the bearing
from spinning on the shaft instead of spinning on the wheel. So yeah,
I'd torque it to their specs, but, don't think that this will let you
out of the issues with the fork wear...that's still a critical problem
that should be dealt with somehow by keeping that spacer
from rotating.
In the end, through some creative methods, people can have this
be a very minor issue. This is my favorite fix so far:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=17878
It's definitely something worth doing before you fly, and it will
be more fun to do when the fork and wheel are still clean.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Jeff Carpenter wrote:
>
> Vans has a Nose Wheel Torque posting up on the website... put up on
> 9/6. It seems to me that it addresses a problem Tim Olson brought up a
> while back relative to wear on the forks. Have I got this right? What
> say you Tim?
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
> N410CF (reserved)
> Firewall backward
>
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| Subject: | Re: WSI AV-300 delivered |
Some of this is edited for brevity, but it's what I asked WSI....
------------------
Regarding the antenna mounting... On the GPS antennas and
the old WSI antennas, everyone always said that you don't really need a
ground PLANE, but you needed to provide a good ground to the case of the
antenna for return power. The new manual says that a ground plane of
12" in diameter is best for reception.
Do you know if this for sure is something required? My current
installation is on the top of the fiberglass canopy, and I have power
ground to the screws, but I don't have any ground plane.
Since I'll be completely mounting the antenna all new this time, I have
choices to make. First and easiest to route wires is to mount the
antenna on the cabin top, the same way I currently have, and it will be
horizontal with a full view of the sky in all directions. The
alternative is to mount the receiver and the antenna on the top of the
tail behind the baggage area, very similar to your Cessna 182 install
example, which would be mounted on a backslope of the roof, so it
wouldn't have as nice of a forward view....and it would be mounted
within 8" of a GPS antenna. If you can find out what's *really*
important to getting the best signal, I'd appreciate it. If it's the
ground plane, then perhaps the best is on the tail if the other GPS
antenna won't interfere. If it's the view of the sky, then on the cabin
top would be OK, but the cabin top is 1" thick and the ground plane if
any would have to be something like self-stick aluminum on the interior
of the cabin.
-------------------
Their Replies:
There is a section in the antenna install manual regarding installation
on composite aircraft. Basically, it says to use an metallic doubler per
FAA AC 43.13.2A, Chapter 3, Section 38b(2).
As for mounting location, top of the wing is preferred to back of the
canopy so as to get the more horizontal mounting.
--
and
--
A ground plane for this antenna isn't really required - the doubler is
more for structural purposes. The FAA AC really does address this well
and should be the reference here. Agree on placement.
-----------------------------------------------------
I think they mistook "top of the wing" being the canopy top of a Cessna
High Wing, but that's OK, the point is, you want a nice high mounting
spot that's as horizontal as possible as the preferred location.
This concurs with what the manufacturers say about certified WAAS
GPS installs also.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Yesterday I picked up my AV-300 WSI receiver from SteinAir, my dealer. I
> haven't powered it yet, but hope to within the next day or two. It's a
> nice looking box, complete with the ability to separately talk to 2 full
> EFIS's and one "Listen Only" box, and also via ethernet it can talk to
> tablet PC's and other PC based systems without using serial. It looks
> like perhaps all receivers are actually audio-integrated, but you need a
> bit of external hardware for the sirius radio options.
>
> Right now I'm just trying to get clarification on the antenna mounting
> because with the previous system, it was stated at least by Comant that
> a ground plane wasn't needed, but the install manual for the AV-300
> antenna seems to indicate that best performance is with a 12" or larger
> ground plane. I've not had to install a ground plane on fiberglass
> canopies before, and so I'll either be adding one to my canopy top and
> see if the ground plane still works when it's 1" below the antenna base,
> or I'll be getting some additional cable and mounting my antenna back on
> the forward tailcone top. I've asked WSI for comments and will pass them
> on.
>
> Just thought y'all would like to know they've actually delivered one.
>
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Just to add more fuel to the consideration. Why not use the cork gasket
and coat it with tank sealant as well including a fillet between the
unit and the upper surface of the wing?
John Cox #600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel senders
John,
Look through the archives. You will find that you will get both
answers, use the gasket and don't use the gasket. I don't remember the
suggestion to replacing the rubber gasket with cork gasket. In my mind,
there is no convincing argument one way or the other.
My summary of what has been writen:
Use the gasket, it will ease removal of the sender in the future.
No gasket, the proseal will form the gasket, don't have to worry about
rubber or cork failure.
Larry
evmeg@snowcrest.net wrote:
>
>
> Throw out the gasket and just use sealant.....and a dab of it under
each
> screw head as well. As you tighten, it will squidge out and make a
perfect
> gasket.
> Cheers....
> Evan
>
>
>
<indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
>>
>> What have others done when putting in there fuel senders. Are people
using
>> the rubber supplied gasket in addition to the proseal or just using
the
>> proseal?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John G. #409, building again
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel senders |
I think this is what I did with the black colored gaskets that
came with mine....covered both sides in proseal and stuck it
on. I figured if I had to pull the sender, this would let me
pop it off easier by cutting the seal, and then I'd have the
sender off to give access to scrape the old sealant from
the tank. Not sure if it's perfect, but it's leak free
so far.
Incidentally, this is what I do when opening up my vehicle's
differentials, transmissions, and things like that too...I coat
the gasket with RTV and install.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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John W. Cox wrote:
>
> Just to add more fuel to the consideration. Why not use the cork gasket
> and coat it with tank sealant as well including a fillet between the
> unit and the upper surface of the wing?
>
> John Cox #600
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:37 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel senders
>
>
> John,
> Look through the archives. You will find that you will get both
> answers, use the gasket and don't use the gasket. I don't remember the
> suggestion to replacing the rubber gasket with cork gasket. In my mind,
>
> there is no convincing argument one way or the other.
>
> My summary of what has been writen:
>
> Use the gasket, it will ease removal of the sender in the future.
> No gasket, the proseal will form the gasket, don't have to worry about
> rubber or cork failure.
>
> Larry
>
> evmeg@snowcrest.net wrote:
>>
>>
>> Throw out the gasket and just use sealant.....and a dab of it under
> each
>> screw head as well. As you tighten, it will squidge out and make a
> perfect
>> gasket.
>> Cheers....
>> Evan
>>
>>
>>
> <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
>>> What have others done when putting in there fuel senders. Are people
> using
>>> the rubber supplied gasket in addition to the proseal or just using
> the
>>> proseal?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John G. #409, building again
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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A final presentation in my proseal classes is the use of fiberglass
reinforced plastic scrapers (they come in various shapes, sizes, colors
and ends) which are always used to remove the old sealant for service
and final reapplication before return to operations.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel senders
I think this is what I did with the black colored gaskets that
came with mine....covered both sides in proseal and stuck it
on. I figured if I had to pull the sender, this would let me
pop it off easier by cutting the seal, and then I'd have the
sender off to give access to scrape the old sealant from
the tank. Not sure if it's perfect, but it's leak free
so far.
Incidentally, this is what I do when opening up my vehicle's
differentials, transmissions, and things like that too...I coat
the gasket with RTV and install.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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John W. Cox wrote:
<johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>
> Just to add more fuel to the consideration. Why not use the cork
gasket
> and coat it with tank sealant as well including a fillet between the
> unit and the upper surface of the wing?
>
> John Cox #600
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:37 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel senders
>
>
> John,
> Look through the archives. You will find that you will get both
> answers, use the gasket and don't use the gasket. I don't remember
the
> suggestion to replacing the rubber gasket with cork gasket. In my
mind,
>
> there is no convincing argument one way or the other.
>
> My summary of what has been writen:
>
> Use the gasket, it will ease removal of the sender in the future.
> No gasket, the proseal will form the gasket, don't have to worry about
> rubber or cork failure.
>
> Larry
>
> evmeg@snowcrest.net wrote:
>>
>>
>> Throw out the gasket and just use sealant.....and a dab of it under
> each
>> screw head as well. As you tighten, it will squidge out and make a
> perfect
>> gasket.
>> Cheers....
>> Evan
>>
>>
>>
> <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
>>> What have others done when putting in there fuel senders. Are people
> using
>>> the rubber supplied gasket in addition to the proseal or just using
> the
>>> proseal?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John G. #409, building again
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
Somebody had previously mentioned that the email address that the
website
used within paypal was wrong. I don=92t recall who that is but it would
be
helpful if they could respond with what the correct email address was
for
them (in paypal). My purchase sent money to dczach86@hotmail.com. I
have
sent emails to rvsilverbullet@comcast.net as well as the hotmail address
w/o
response. I haven=92t actually called the phone number yet=85
-Ben
#40579
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
I also have a set of door latches on order since before Oshkosh. My
credit
card was charged so I think they got the order. On the bright side they
still have an answering machine and the phone has not been disconnected.
My
guess is they have been flood with orders since Oshkosh and are trying
to
get unburied.
Vern Smith
do not archive
> From: VHMUM@bigpond.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 09:05:33 +1000
>
<VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>
> Does anyone have a direct contact with this mob that could have a chat
to
> see what is going on as it has been 2 months I am happy to send the
reciept
> from Paypal.
> They dont answer there phone or emails.
>
> If not I will take it the money is lost and I will just put up with
Vans
> Parts
>
>============
>
>
>
_____
Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
Ben,
The specifics are coming back to me now. After I requested
my payment credit from PP and received it immediately (surprise)
Rivethead contacted me and said the PP account was not associated with
the email address rvsilverbullet@comcast.net and the best way to order
and pay for the parts is to click the RV-10 button on their home page
and use the order form associated with their shopping cart. Doing this
now and checking out via PP takes one to an order form but I don't see
an email address on the check out form. Figures.
I did however look up my personal PP history and found my payment (July
25, 2007) with a business contact of the seller listed as:
Business Contact Information
Customer Service URL:
http://www.rivethead-aero.com
Customer Service Email:
dczach86@hotmail.com
Customer Service Phone:
302-437-6087
I assume that has to be the email address associated with
the account?
Because I paid for my products using PP but charging my CC (vs.
deducting my bank account) the PP history states that I will see the
following information on CC statement:
This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL
*FULLTHROTTL".
I doubt any of this will help and I am surprised that no one
has been able to make contact as long as this thread has been running. I
wish you all luck.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
Somebody had previously mentioned that the email address that the
website used within paypal was wrong. I don't recall who that is but it
would be helpful if they could respond with what the correct email
address was for them (in paypal). My purchase sent money to
dczach86@hotmail.com. I have sent emails to rvsilverbullet@comcast.net
as well as the hotmail address w/o response. I haven't actually called
the phone number yet...
-Ben
#40579
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
I also have a set of door latches on order since before Oshkosh. My
credit card was charged so I think they got the order. On the bright
side they still have an answering machine and the phone has not been
disconnected. My guess is they have been flood with orders since Oshkosh
and are trying to get unburied.
Vern Smith
do not archive
> From: VHMUM@bigpond.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 09:05:33 +1000
>
<VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>
> Does anyone have a direct contact with this mob that could have a chat
to
> see what is going on as it has been 2 months I am happy to send the
reciept
> from Paypal.
> They dont answer there phone or emails.
>
> If not I will take it the money is lost and I will just put up with
Vans
> Parts
>
>============
>
>
>
________________________________
Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger
Caf=E9. Play now!
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| Subject: | Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there? |
I did, several months ago, receive a response when I emailed him at
dczachorowski@comcast.net You may have luck getting a hold of him there,
although a response did take several days. I did order the RV-10 parts
off the website and received them about 4 weeks after I paid.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Ben,
>
> The specifics are coming back to me now. After I requested my payment
> credit from PP and received it immediately (surprise) Rivethead
> contacted me and said the PP account was not associated with the email
> address rvsilverbullet@comcast.net <mailto:rvsilverbullet@comcast.net>
> and the best way to order and pay for the parts is to click the RV-10
> button on their home page and use the order form associated with their
> shopping cart. Doing this now and checking out via PP takes one to an
> order form but I dont see an email address on the check out form.
> Figures.
>
> I did however look up my personal PP history and found my payment
> (July 25, 2007) with a business contact of the seller listed as:
>
> *Business Contact Information
> *
>
> *Customer Service URL:*
>
>
>
> https://www.paypalobjects.com/WEBSCR-480-20070907-1/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif
>
>
>
> http://www.rivethead-aero.com
>
> *Customer Service Email:*
>
>
>
> https://www.paypalobjects.com/WEBSCR-480-20070907-1/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif
>
>
>
> dczach86@hotmail.com <MAILTO:dczach86@hotmail.com>
>
> *Customer Service Phone:*
>
>
>
> https://www.paypalobjects.com/WEBSCR-480-20070907-1/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif
>
>
>
> 302-437-6087
>
> I assume that has to be the email address associated with the account?
>
> Because I paid for my products using PP but charging my CC (vs.
> deducting my bank account) the PP history states that I will see the
> following information on CC statement:
>
> This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL
> *FULLTHROTTL".
>
> I doubt any of this will help and I am surprised that no one has been
> able to make contact as long as this thread has been running. I wish
> you all luck.
>
> Robin
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ben Westfall
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:42 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
>
> Somebody had previously mentioned that the email address that the
> website used within paypal was wrong. I dont recall who that is but
> it would be helpful if they could respond with what the correct email
> address was for them (in paypal). My purchase sent money to
> dczach86@hotmail.com <mailto:dczach86@hotmail.com>. I have sent emails
> to rvsilverbullet@comcast.net <mailto:rvsilverbullet@comcast.net> as
> well as the hotmail address w/o response. I havent actually called
> the phone number yet
>
> -Ben
>
> #40579
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Vernon Smith
> *Sent:* Monday, September 10, 2007 12:45 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
>
> I also have a set of door latches on order since before Oshkosh. My
> credit card was charged so I think they got the order. On the bright
> side they still have an answering machine and the phone has not been
> disconnected. My guess is they have been flood with orders since
> Oshkosh and are trying to get unburied.
>
> Vern Smith
>
> do not archive
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> > From: VHMUM@bigpond.com
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Aero, are you out there?
> > Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 09:05:33 +1000
> >
> <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
> >
> > Does anyone have a direct contact with this mob that could have a
> chat to
> > see what is going on as it has been 2 months I am happy to send the
> reciept
> > from Paypal.
> > They dont answer there phone or emails.
> >
> > If not I will take it the money is lost and I will just put up with Vans
> > Parts
> >
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| Subject: | Re: WSI AV-300 delivered |
Justine from WSI today again requested I tell people who have an
old WSI receiver that is not yet activated so they are in the upgrade
program to contact her right away. They want to get everyone
upgraded before the upcoming deadline, and she wants to get an idea
of how many people that is. Here's her info if you're one of them:
Justine Felahi
WSI InFlight Channel Development Manager
WSI Corporation
400 Minuteman Road
Andover, MA 01810
jfelahi@wsi.com
Voice: 978-983-6633
Cell: 603-801-9064
Fax: 866-806-6245
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Some of this is edited for brevity, but it's what I asked WSI....
>
>
> ------------------
> Regarding the antenna mounting... On the GPS antennas and
> the old WSI antennas, everyone always said that you don't really need a
> ground PLANE, but you needed to provide a good ground to the case of the
> antenna for return power. The new manual says that a ground plane of
> 12" in diameter is best for reception.
> Do you know if this for sure is something required? My current
> installation is on the top of the fiberglass canopy, and I have power
> ground to the screws, but I don't have any ground plane.
> Since I'll be completely mounting the antenna all new this time, I have
> choices to make. First and easiest to route wires is to mount the
> antenna on the cabin top, the same way I currently have, and it will be
> horizontal with a full view of the sky in all directions. The
> alternative is to mount the receiver and the antenna on the top of the
> tail behind the baggage area, very similar to your Cessna 182 install
> example, which would be mounted on a backslope of the roof, so it
> wouldn't have as nice of a forward view....and it would be mounted
> within 8" of a GPS antenna. If you can find out what's *really*
> important to getting the best signal, I'd appreciate it. If it's the
> ground plane, then perhaps the best is on the tail if the other GPS
> antenna won't interfere. If it's the view of the sky, then on the cabin
> top would be OK, but the cabin top is 1" thick and the ground plane if
> any would have to be something like self-stick aluminum on the interior
> of the cabin.
> -------------------
> Their Replies:
>
> There is a section in the antenna install manual regarding installation
> on composite aircraft. Basically, it says to use an metallic doubler per
> FAA AC 43.13.2A, Chapter 3, Section 38b(2).
>
> As for mounting location, top of the wing is preferred to back of the
> canopy so as to get the more horizontal mounting.
>
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