RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 09/12/07


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 05:30 AM - Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
     2. 05:52 AM - Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. (Phillips, Jack)
     3. 06:21 AM - Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. (Patrick ONeill)
     4. 08:16 AM - Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. (James K Hovis)
     5. 10:14 AM - Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     6. 02:01 PM - Re: Second Airplane? (Dan Masys)
     7. 02:52 PM - Re: Re: Second Airplane? (Deems Davis)
     8. 03:08 PM - Re: Re: Second Airplane? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     9. 04:51 PM - Firewall Sealant (Jeff Carpenter)
    10. 07:33 PM - Re: Firewall Sealant (John W. Cox)
    11. 08:44 PM - Fitting cabin top (Fred Williams, M.D.)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:30:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
    From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
    Here is the email chain I had with Ameri-King about there plans for a 406 Mhz ELT. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 N519RV (Hobbs = 310) Looking forward to LOE 07 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Dear Ray : Thank you for your Email today, The new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 shall be the same footprint and size as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement. Another version of ELT 406.00 MHz is also available with an option of included the GPS feature within the ELT. Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon. BEST REGARDS, VICTOR VAN SALES MANAGER AMERI-KING CORP. 17881 Sampson Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA Tel (714) 842-8555 Fax (714) 842-4235 Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com Web Site: www.ameri-king.com -----Original Message----- From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Sent: 2007-09-11 08:47:58 Subject: RE: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Thanks for your reply. Based on your reply, I was not clear if your AK-451 was the same footprint and size as the AK-450. Will the AK-451 support an RS-232 Serial In Line from a Panel Mounted GPS so that the AK-451 would transmit the last known Long and Lat from the GPS Data? I would like to see the AK-451 read this GPS Data and then save the most recent copy that it would then use if the ELT was activated. Thank You Ray Doerr CDNI Principal Engineer Sprint PCS 16020 West 113th Street Lenexa, KS 66219 Mailstop KSLNXK0101 (913) 859-1414 (Office) (913) 226-0106 (Pcs) (913) 859-1234 (Fax) Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:18 AM Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Dear Ray : Thank you for your Email today, We shall manufacture the ELT 406 MHz in the next few months. We are now at the last step of FAA TSO Certification stage for ELT 406 MHz P/N AK-451. However, we have been contact with the FAA almost everyday and confirmed that there will not have any requirement from FAA about ELT 406 MHz in 2008. May be there are strong opposition from AOPA. The requirement of ELT 406.0 MHz will be for the Marine only in 2009. The Military Satellites of 121.0/243.0 MHz will be available after 2009 for sure. If we distribute the new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 with the same footprints, same sizes as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement. We also have a program of exchange to ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 and credit to your old ELT AK-450. Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon. BEST REGARDS, VICTOR VAN SALES MANAGER AMERI-KING CORP. 17881 Sampson Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA Tel (714) 842-8555 Fax (714) 842-4235 Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com Web Site: www.ameri-king.com -----Original Message----- From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Sent: 2007-09-10 12:02:36 Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. I was hoping AmeriKing would create a 406 Mhz ELT using the same package as the AK-450 ELT. Do you have any info you can share on this topic? Thank You Ray Doerr CDNI Principal Engineer Sprint PCS 16020 West 113th Street Lenexa, KS 66219 Mailstop KSLNXK0101 (913) 859-1414 (Office) (913) 226-0106 (Pcs) (913) 859-1234 (Fax) Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com


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    Time: 05:52:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com>
    Good information, Ray. Did they happen to mention their proposed price for the AK-451? Jack Phillips #40610 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. --> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Here is the email chain I had with Ameri-King about there plans for a 406 Mhz ELT. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 N519RV (Hobbs = 310) Looking forward to LOE 07 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Dear Ray : Thank you for your Email today, The new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 shall be the same footprint and size as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement. Another version of ELT 406.00 MHz is also available with an option of included the GPS feature within the ELT. Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon. BEST REGARDS, VICTOR VAN SALES MANAGER AMERI-KING CORP. 17881 Sampson Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA Tel (714) 842-8555 Fax (714) 842-4235 Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com Web Site: www.ameri-king.com -----Original Message----- From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Sent: 2007-09-11 08:47:58 Subject: RE: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Thanks for your reply. Based on your reply, I was not clear if your AK-451 was the same footprint and size as the AK-450. Will the AK-451 support an RS-232 Serial In Line from a Panel Mounted GPS so that the AK-451 would transmit the last known Long and Lat from the GPS Data? I would like to see the AK-451 read this GPS Data and then save the most recent copy that it would then use if the ELT was activated. Thank You Ray Doerr CDNI Principal Engineer Sprint PCS 16020 West 113th Street Lenexa, KS 66219 Mailstop KSLNXK0101 (913) 859-1414 (Office) (913) 226-0106 (Pcs) (913) 859-1234 (Fax) Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:18 AM Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Dear Ray : Thank you for your Email today, We shall manufacture the ELT 406 MHz in the next few months. We are now at the last step of FAA TSO Certification stage for ELT 406 MHz P/N AK-451. However, we have been contact with the FAA almost everyday and confirmed that there will not have any requirement from FAA about ELT 406 MHz in 2008. May be there are strong opposition from AOPA. The requirement of ELT 406.0 MHz will be for the Marine only in 2009. The Military Satellites of 121.0/243.0 MHz will be available after 2009 for sure. If we distribute the new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 with the same footprints, same sizes as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement. We also have a program of exchange to ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 and credit to your old ELT AK-450. Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon. BEST REGARDS, VICTOR VAN SALES MANAGER AMERI-KING CORP. 17881 Sampson Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA Tel (714) 842-8555 Fax (714) 842-4235 Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com Web Site: www.ameri-king.com -----Original Message----- From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Sent: 2007-09-10 12:02:36 Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. I was hoping AmeriKing would create a 406 Mhz ELT using the same package as the AK-450 ELT. Do you have any info you can share on this topic? Thank You Ray Doerr CDNI Principal Engineer Sprint PCS 16020 West 113th Street Lenexa, KS 66219 Mailstop KSLNXK0101 (913) 859-1414 (Office) (913) 226-0106 (Pcs) (913) 859-1234 (Fax) Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com _________________________________________________ or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese


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    Time: 06:21:07 AM PST US
    From: "Patrick ONeill" <poneill@irealms.com>
    Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
    With regard to the GPS location data option, has anyone seen any statistics on the benefit of this? How accurate is the satellite positioning on the 406 mhz units? Is the accuracy such that the GPS link makes a big difference in locating the beacon? Best Regards, Patrick #40715 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:29 AM Subject: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Here is the email chain I had with Ameri-King about there plans for a 406 Mhz ELT. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 N519RV (Hobbs = 310) Looking forward to LOE 07 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Dear Ray : Thank you for your Email today, The new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 shall be the same footprint and size as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement. Another version of ELT 406.00 MHz is also available with an option of included the GPS feature within the ELT. Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon. BEST REGARDS, VICTOR VAN SALES MANAGER AMERI-KING CORP. 17881 Sampson Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA Tel (714) 842-8555 Fax (714) 842-4235 Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com Web Site: www.ameri-king.com -----Original Message----- From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Sent: 2007-09-11 08:47:58 Subject: RE: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Thanks for your reply. Based on your reply, I was not clear if your AK-451 was the same footprint and size as the AK-450. Will the AK-451 support an RS-232 Serial In Line from a Panel Mounted GPS so that the AK-451 would transmit the last known Long and Lat from the GPS Data? I would like to see the AK-451 read this GPS Data and then save the most recent copy that it would then use if the ELT was activated. Thank You Ray Doerr CDNI Principal Engineer Sprint PCS 16020 West 113th Street Lenexa, KS 66219 Mailstop KSLNXK0101 (913) 859-1414 (Office) (913) 226-0106 (Pcs) (913) 859-1234 (Fax) Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:18 AM Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Dear Ray : Thank you for your Email today, We shall manufacture the ELT 406 MHz in the next few months. We are now at the last step of FAA TSO Certification stage for ELT 406 MHz P/N AK-451. However, we have been contact with the FAA almost everyday and confirmed that there will not have any requirement from FAA about ELT 406 MHz in 2008. May be there are strong opposition from AOPA. The requirement of ELT 406.0 MHz will be for the Marine only in 2009. The Military Satellites of 121.0/243.0 MHz will be available after 2009 for sure. If we distribute the new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 with the same footprints, same sizes as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement. We also have a program of exchange to ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 and credit to your old ELT AK-450. Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon. BEST REGARDS, VICTOR VAN SALES MANAGER AMERI-KING CORP. 17881 Sampson Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA Tel (714) 842-8555 Fax (714) 842-4235 Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com Web Site: www.ameri-king.com -----Original Message----- From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Sent: 2007-09-10 12:02:36 Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. I was hoping AmeriKing would create a 406 Mhz ELT using the same package as the AK-450 ELT. Do you have any info you can share on this topic? Thank You Ray Doerr CDNI Principal Engineer Sprint PCS 16020 West 113th Street Lenexa, KS 66219 Mailstop KSLNXK0101 (913) 859-1414 (Office) (913) 226-0106 (Pcs) (913) 859-1234 (Fax) Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com


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    Time: 08:16:11 AM PST US
    From: "James K Hovis" <james.k.hovis@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
    I think it could make a big difference in time needed to locate a beacon. Older ELT's bsically just send out a toned signal. You need direction finding radio equipment to find the bearing to the transmitter and then triangulate that with one or two other DF stations to find the location. This could take some time. Also, transmitter power and terrain may limit the effectiveness of the DF equipment recieving the signal. As far as accuracy of the GPS reading, the ELT itself will contain a GPS reciever that should be as accurate as any other TSO'd GPS unit. The ELT signal will contain a data stream containing the GPS coordinates that is relayed by satellite to the central processing center. Once the coordinates are decoded, this can be relayed to the rescue units. This should save quite a bit of time. Of course, the accuracy of the GPS data the ELT transmits is a function of how many GPS satellites it "sees" at any one time (need at least three), just as it is with any GPS unit. In a crash I suppose this could be an issue. Kevin H. On 9/12/07, Patrick ONeill <poneill@irealms.com> wrote: > > With regard to the GPS location data option, has anyone seen any statistics > on the benefit of this? How accurate is the satellite positioning on the > 406 mhz units? Is the accuracy such that the GPS link makes a big > difference in locating the beacon? > > Best Regards, > Patrick #40715 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R > [NTK] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:29 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. > > <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> > > Here is the email chain I had with Ameri-King about there plans for > a 406 Mhz ELT. > > > Thank You > Ray Doerr > 40250 > N519RV (Hobbs = 310) > Looking forward to LOE 07 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:48 AM > To: Doerr, Ray R [NTK] > Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. > > Dear Ray : > > Thank you for your Email today, > > The new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 shall be the same footprint and size as our > ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement. > > Another version of ELT 406.00 MHz is also available with an option of > included the GPS feature within the ELT. > > Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S > products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon. > > BEST REGARDS, > > > VICTOR VAN > SALES MANAGER > AMERI-KING CORP. > 17881 Sampson Lane > Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA > Tel (714) 842-8555 > Fax (714) 842-4235 > Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com > Web Site: www.ameri-king.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> > Sent: 2007-09-11 08:47:58 > To: Keith Van <sales@ameri-king.com> > Subject: RE: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. > > Thanks for your reply. Based on your reply, I was not clear if your AK-451 > was the same footprint and size as the AK-450. > > Will the AK-451 support an RS-232 Serial In Line from a Panel > Mounted GPS so that the AK-451 would transmit the last known Long and Lat > from the GPS Data? I would like to see the AK-451 read this GPS Data and > then save the most recent copy that it would then use if the ELT was > activated. > > > Thank You > Ray Doerr > CDNI Principal Engineer > Sprint PCS > 16020 West 113th Street > Lenexa, KS 66219 > Mailstop KSLNXK0101 > (913) 859-1414 (Office) > (913) 226-0106 (Pcs) > (913) 859-1234 (Fax) > Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:18 AM > To: Doerr, Ray R [NTK] > Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. > > Dear Ray : > > Thank you for your Email today, > > We shall manufacture the ELT 406 MHz in the next few months. We are now at > the last step of FAA TSO Certification stage for ELT 406 MHz P/N AK-451. > However, we have been contact with the FAA almost everyday and confirmed > that there will not have any requirement from FAA about ELT 406 MHz in 2008. > May be there are strong opposition from AOPA. > > The requirement of ELT 406.0 MHz will be for the Marine only in 2009. The > Military Satellites of 121.0/243.0 MHz will be available after 2009 for > sure. > > If we distribute the new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 with the same footprints, > same sizes as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement. > > We also have a program of exchange to ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 and credit to > your old ELT AK-450. > > Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S > products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon. > > BEST REGARDS, > > > VICTOR VAN > SALES MANAGER > AMERI-KING CORP. > 17881 Sampson Lane > Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA > Tel (714) 842-8555 > Fax (714) 842-4235 > Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com > Web Site: www.ameri-king.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> > Sent: 2007-09-10 12:02:36 > To: sales@ameri-king.com > Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. > > I was hoping AmeriKing would create a 406 Mhz ELT using the same package as > the AK-450 ELT. Do you have any info you can share on this topic? > > > Thank You > Ray Doerr > CDNI Principal Engineer > Sprint PCS > 16020 West 113th Street > Lenexa, KS 66219 > Mailstop KSLNXK0101 > (913) 859-1414 (Office) > (913) 226-0106 (Pcs) > (913) 859-1234 (Fax) > Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com > >


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    Time: 10:14:57 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
    >From what I have read, GPS data get's you a couple things. First and foremost it gives rescuers immediate coordinates to begin their search within a 100 meter radius. With just the 406 beacon, it will take several passes of low orbit SAR satellites to narrow down your location using Doppler Shift. The feds also say accuracy using DS is 1-3 miles, time & samples variable. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:20 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. With regard to the GPS location data option, has anyone seen any statistics on the benefit of this? How accurate is the satellite positioning on the 406 mhz units? Is the accuracy such that the GPS link makes a big difference in locating the beacon? Best Regards, Patrick #40715 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:29 AM Subject: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Here is the email chain I had with Ameri-King about there plans for a 406 Mhz ELT. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 N519RV (Hobbs = 310) Looking forward to LOE 07 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Dear Ray : Thank you for your Email today, The new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 shall be the same footprint and size as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement. Another version of ELT 406.00 MHz is also available with an option of included the GPS feature within the ELT. Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon. BEST REGARDS, VICTOR VAN SALES MANAGER AMERI-KING CORP. 17881 Sampson Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA Tel (714) 842-8555 Fax (714) 842-4235 Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com Web Site: www.ameri-king.com -----Original Message----- From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Sent: 2007-09-11 08:47:58 Subject: RE: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Thanks for your reply. Based on your reply, I was not clear if your AK-451 was the same footprint and size as the AK-450. Will the AK-451 support an RS-232 Serial In Line from a Panel Mounted GPS so that the AK-451 would transmit the last known Long and Lat from the GPS Data? I would like to see the AK-451 read this GPS Data and then save the most recent copy that it would then use if the ELT was activated. Thank You Ray Doerr CDNI Principal Engineer Sprint PCS 16020 West 113th Street Lenexa, KS 66219 Mailstop KSLNXK0101 (913) 859-1414 (Office) (913) 226-0106 (Pcs) (913) 859-1234 (Fax) Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:18 AM Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. Dear Ray : Thank you for your Email today, We shall manufacture the ELT 406 MHz in the next few months. We are now at the last step of FAA TSO Certification stage for ELT 406 MHz P/N AK-451. However, we have been contact with the FAA almost everyday and confirmed that there will not have any requirement from FAA about ELT 406 MHz in 2008. May be there are strong opposition from AOPA. The requirement of ELT 406.0 MHz will be for the Marine only in 2009. The Military Satellites of 121.0/243.0 MHz will be available after 2009 for sure. If we distribute the new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 with the same footprints, same sizes as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement. We also have a program of exchange to ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 and credit to your old ELT AK-450. Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon. BEST REGARDS, VICTOR VAN SALES MANAGER AMERI-KING CORP. 17881 Sampson Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA Tel (714) 842-8555 Fax (714) 842-4235 Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com Web Site: www.ameri-king.com -----Original Message----- From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Sent: 2007-09-10 12:02:36 Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. I was hoping AmeriKing would create a 406 Mhz ELT using the same package as the AK-450 ELT. Do you have any info you can share on this topic? Thank You Ray Doerr CDNI Principal Engineer Sprint PCS 16020 West 113th Street Lenexa, KS 66219 Mailstop KSLNXK0101 (913) 859-1414 (Office) (913) 226-0106 (Pcs) (913) 859-1234 (Fax) Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com


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    Time: 02:01:59 PM PST US
    From: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Second Airplane?
    > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Second Airplane? > From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com> > > Ron, > > That is my concern, that I go to all the trouble and > expense of another build and find I don't NEED it or don't fly enough > hours to satisfy both planes. I currently fly about 150 hours/ year > (average since certified in early 2002). Is a 100 RV-10 hours & 50 7A > hours/year reasonable? Maybe, but maybe all RV-10 time would be OK too? > Hummmmm tough call. I'm currently paying for two hangars and trying to fly both my -10 and -7A often enough to keep them both healthy. The -10 isn't painted yet and the plan is to keep the -7A at least until the -10 comes back from the paint shop. My current experience is similar to that already posted -- whenever I really want to go somewhere for travel purposes, the -10 is the hands down winner. A real sweetheart of a cross country traveler in terms of comfort, speed, and information systems. But the -7A is such a hoot, with its 2500 fpm climb rate, aerobatic capability, and responsive controls. I just love taking the -7A out on a yank and bank excursion with a few aileron rolls after sitting in the plush cockpit of the -10 for a long x-country. When I take up Boy Scouts or Young Eagles and give them the controls, its always in the -7A since the experience is not unlike an aerial motorcycle, where the -10 is more like an aerial Lexus. Since both of them are paid for, the controlling factor will almost certainly be the long term maintenance. Both need attention, and time spent doing maintenance is time not flying; hangar queens definitely don't age gracefully. Having two airplanes definitely teaches you the meaning of the term "possessions" -- they are things that possess you! -Dan Masys


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    Time: 02:52:59 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Second Airplane?
    Even though I'm not yet flying. I've considered this myself. I just can't conceive of selling my -10. just toooo much love has gone into it, not to mention the sweat and tears. But the desire for a 'toy' never goes away. I've considered a partnership in a -7 / -8, particularly if the other partner/s held the repairman's certificate. anybody in the PHX area want to share a -7 / -8? Deems Davis # 406 Will this heat never end.....??????? http://deemsrv10.com/ Dan Masys wrote: > > >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Second Airplane? >> From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com> >> >> Ron, >> >> That is my concern, that I go to all the trouble and >> expense of another build and find I don't NEED it or don't fly enough >> hours to satisfy both planes. I currently fly about 150 hours/ year >> (average since certified in early 2002). Is a 100 RV-10 hours & 50 7A >> hours/year reasonable? Maybe, but maybe all RV-10 time would be OK too? >> Hummmmm tough call. >> > > I'm currently paying for two hangars and trying to fly both my -10 and -7A often enough to keep them both healthy. The -10 isn't painted yet and the plan is to keep the -7A at least until the -10 comes back from the paint shop. My current experience is similar to that already posted -- whenever I really want to go somewhere for travel purposes, the -10 is the hands down winner. A real sweetheart of a cross country traveler in terms of comfort, speed, and information systems. > > But the -7A is such a hoot, with its 2500 fpm climb rate, aerobatic capability, and responsive controls. I just love taking the -7A out on a yank and bank excursion with a few aileron rolls after sitting in the plush cockpit of the -10 for a long x-country. When I take up Boy Scouts or Young Eagles and give them the controls, its always in the -7A since the experience is not unlike an aerial motorcycle, where the -10 is more like an aerial Lexus. > > Since both of them are paid for, the controlling factor will almost certainly be the long term maintenance. Both need attention, and time spent doing maintenance is time not flying; hangar queens definitely don't age gracefully. > > Having two airplanes definitely teaches you the meaning of the term "possessions" -- they are things that possess you! > > -Dan Masys > > >


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    Time: 03:08:03 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Re: Second Airplane?
    I'm actually considering building a LongEZ once the -10 is done. Not too expensive to build and cheaper to fly with speed equivalent to the 10. Of course I have to do that pesky house remodel first in order to appease the wife. :-) Bring on the fiberglass! Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Second Airplane? Even though I'm not yet flying. I've considered this myself. I just can't conceive of selling my -10. just toooo much love has gone into it, not to mention the sweat and tears. But the desire for a 'toy' never goes away. I've considered a partnership in a -7 / -8, particularly if the other partner/s held the repairman's certificate. anybody in the PHX area want to share a -7 / -8? Deems Davis # 406 Will this heat never end.....??????? http://deemsrv10.com/ Dan Masys wrote: > > >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Second Airplane? >> From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com> >> >> Ron, >> >> That is my concern, that I go to all the trouble and >> expense of another build and find I don't NEED it or don't fly enough >> hours to satisfy both planes. I currently fly about 150 hours/ year >> (average since certified in early 2002). Is a 100 RV-10 hours & 50 7A >> hours/year reasonable? Maybe, but maybe all RV-10 time would be OK too? >> Hummmmm tough call. >> > > I'm currently paying for two hangars and trying to fly both my -10 and -7A often enough to keep them both healthy. The -10 isn't painted yet and the plan is to keep the -7A at least until the -10 comes back from the paint shop. My current experience is similar to that already posted -- whenever I really want to go somewhere for travel purposes, the -10 is the hands down winner. A real sweetheart of a cross country traveler in terms of comfort, speed, and information systems. > > But the -7A is such a hoot, with its 2500 fpm climb rate, aerobatic capability, and responsive controls. I just love taking the -7A out on a yank and bank excursion with a few aileron rolls after sitting in the plush cockpit of the -10 for a long x-country. When I take up Boy Scouts or Young Eagles and give them the controls, its always in the -7A since the experience is not unlike an aerial motorcycle, where the -10 is more like an aerial Lexus. > > Since both of them are paid for, the controlling factor will almost certainly be the long term maintenance. Both need attention, and time spent doing maintenance is time not flying; hangar queens definitely don't age gracefully. > > Having two airplanes definitely teaches you the meaning of the term "possessions" -- they are things that possess you! > > -Dan Masys > >


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    Time: 04:51:07 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
    Subject: Firewall Sealant
    I'm about to order my CS 1900 Firewall Sealant as I've reached the point of riveting the forward rib subassemblies to the firewall and the final instruction on page 27-6 is to "proseal any gaps around the F-1001K Recess" etc. While I'm doing that, would it make sense to put a thin coat across the flush rivet lines on the engine side of the firewall? Jeff Carpenter 40304


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    Time: 07:33:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Firewall Sealant
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    The final texture of the CS 1900 is much different from the other products. Reserve your decision until after you watch the dried product on the rib subassemblies. Then you should have no regrets. Fire Annunciation, Fire Suppression, walking away for another day is what it is all about. John Cox 40600 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:50 PM Subject: RV10-List: Firewall Sealant I'm about to order my CS 1900 Firewall Sealant as I've reached the point of riveting the forward rib subassemblies to the firewall and the final instruction on page 27-6 is to "proseal any gaps around the F-1001K Recess" etc. While I'm doing that, would it make sense to put a thin coat across the flush rivet lines on the engine side of the firewall? Jeff Carpenter 40304


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    Time: 08:44:58 PM PST US
    From: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
    Subject: Fitting cabin top
    I'm now to the point of fitting the fiberglass top to the fuse. Like most of us with minimal fiberglass experience, I approached the fitting with some trepidation. I wanted to pass along a way to help get started. I did the rough cutting to within 1/16 th to 1/8 th of the line around the doorsill. I then got some help and tried to muscle it into place. After about two tries it became quickly obvious that about 1/4 inch needed to come off from the width of the door. The fiberglass had to be trimmed just about to the curve on each side. It also becomes obvious that the first place it must fit is between the door jambs. Rather than take the top on and off with each bit of sanding, I thought the best way might be to make a door sill template. Overall, I think it speeded up the process as it "only " took 4 tries to get the top to start fitting inside the sills. To make the template, first of all don't try to measure anything. Reverse engineer it. Take a 3/4 inch piece of plywood or MDF ( slightly larger than the opening which is about 37 x 12 inches) and get (3) 12 inch x 2 inch boards. Take one board and use a single screw along the base. This will support the backer board along the sill. Now take another one of the 12 inch boards and screw it vertically so it can be clamped to the back upright. Make sure it is above the small flange in the corner. Now put the third board up against the front upright and mark it's position (outline ). Remove the boards and screw the front upright in place. Now you have the width and size of the opening. Take 3 more 2 inch wide boards. One about 40 inches long and two more 12 inches. Use the long one as the base and use the uprights from the template to hold the vertical 12 inch boards. Screw them into the base of the 40 inch board and then add some scrap triangles in the corner to hold them square. You now have a template that you can fit over the fiberglass while you are sanding/trimming. Once the template will slide over the fiberglass top it will fit between the door jambs and you can then see how the joggle fits and needs to be trimmed and see how you need to radius the corners. I'll put some pics on my site at mykitlog.com in the next few days. I just realized my access to the site was down. If anybody is about to fit their top and needs pics I'll send them to you. Too many and too large for the list. Fred Williams 40515




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