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1. 05:27 AM - Re: Firewall Sealant (orchidman)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
3. 06:36 AM - Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
4. 06:41 AM - Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
5. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: Firewall Sealant (John W. Cox)
6. 11:18 AM - Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
7. 07:25 PM - Re: Firewall Sealant (orchidman)
8. 07:45 PM - Re: Re: Firewall Sealant (Kelly McMullen)
9. 11:26 PM - Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. (Michael Wellenzohn)
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AV8ORJWC wrote:
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> Reserve your decision until after you watch the dried product on the rib
> subassemblies. Then you should have no regrets.
>
John,
Could you please expand on this. I will be starting Section 27 next week and want
to make sure I understand what you are saying.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134170#134170
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| Subject: | Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. |
No, Ameri-King did not indicate the price or timeframe for this new ELT, I was
just glad to hear we are going to have competition in this space.
As for the GPS option on the ELT, I for one was hoping to not have another GPS
in my airplane, when I already have 3. I have dual Garmin 430W which are WAAS
certified and a Garmin 496 handheld. I am wanting to connect the RS-232 aviation
output from one of my 430W to the ELT and then have the ELT keep a copy
of the latest GPS Sentence which has the Long/Lat and then transmit that, if the
ELT was activated. But so far, I think all ELT's with the GPS option are embedding
it into the ELT itself, so now you will likely need another GPS Antenna
mounted on top and I don't want that. With everything having GPS in it in
the future, I can see a time where we have 4+ GPS Antenna's on the plane. One
for you Panel Mount, Handheld, ADSB UAT and ELT. I am just trying to minimize
this. There is no reason the ADSB UAT and the ELT can't use the output from
my 430W!
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
N519RV (Going to LOE 07)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
>From what I have read, GPS data get's you a couple things. First and foremost
it gives rescuers immediate coordinates to begin their search within a 100 meter
radius. With just the 406 beacon, it will take several passes of low orbit
SAR satellites to narrow down your location using Doppler Shift. The feds also
say accuracy using DS is 1-3 miles, time & samples variable.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
With regard to the GPS location data option, has anyone seen any statistics
on the benefit of this? How accurate is the satellite positioning on the
406 mhz units? Is the accuracy such that the GPS link makes a big
difference in locating the beacon?
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
<Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Here is the email chain I had with Ameri-King about there plans for
a 406 Mhz ELT.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
N519RV (Hobbs = 310)
Looking forward to LOE 07
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Dear Ray :
Thank you for your Email today,
The new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 shall be the same footprint and size as our
ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement.
Another version of ELT 406.00 MHz is also available with an option of
included the GPS feature within the ELT.
Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S
products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon.
BEST REGARDS,
VICTOR VAN
SALES MANAGER
AMERI-KING CORP.
17881 Sampson Lane
Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA
Tel (714) 842-8555
Fax (714) 842-4235
Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com
Web Site: www.ameri-king.com
-----Original Message-----
From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Sent: 2007-09-11 08:47:58
Subject: RE: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Thanks for your reply. Based on your reply, I was not clear if your AK-451
was the same footprint and size as the AK-450.
Will the AK-451 support an RS-232 Serial In Line from a Panel
Mounted GPS so that the AK-451 would transmit the last known Long and Lat
from the GPS Data? I would like to see the AK-451 read this GPS Data and
then save the most recent copy that it would then use if the ELT was
activated.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
CDNI Principal Engineer
Sprint PCS
16020 West 113th Street
Lenexa, KS 66219
Mailstop KSLNXK0101
(913) 859-1414 (Office)
(913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
(913) 859-1234 (Fax)
Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Dear Ray :
Thank you for your Email today,
We shall manufacture the ELT 406 MHz in the next few months. We are now at
the last step of FAA TSO Certification stage for ELT 406 MHz P/N AK-451.
However, we have been contact with the FAA almost everyday and confirmed
that there will not have any requirement from FAA about ELT 406 MHz in 2008.
May be there are strong opposition from AOPA.
The requirement of ELT 406.0 MHz will be for the Marine only in 2009. The
Military Satellites of 121.0/243.0 MHz will be available after 2009 for
sure.
If we distribute the new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 with the same footprints,
same sizes as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement.
We also have a program of exchange to ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 and credit to
your old ELT AK-450.
Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S
products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon.
BEST REGARDS,
VICTOR VAN
SALES MANAGER
AMERI-KING CORP.
17881 Sampson Lane
Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA
Tel (714) 842-8555
Fax (714) 842-4235
Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com
Web Site: www.ameri-king.com
-----Original Message-----
From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Sent: 2007-09-10 12:02:36
Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
I was hoping AmeriKing would create a 406 Mhz ELT using the same package as
the AK-450 ELT. Do you have any info you can share on this topic?
Thank You
Ray Doerr
CDNI Principal Engineer
Sprint PCS
16020 West 113th Street
Lenexa, KS 66219
Mailstop KSLNXK0101
(913) 859-1414 (Office)
(913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
(913) 859-1234 (Fax)
Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com
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| Subject: | Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. |
When thinking about integrating devices, it's not always best to have all of
your eggs in one basket. In my mind I would want a completely independent system
when it comes to SAR. For instance, the ELT runs off its own internal power,
isolating it from ship faults. Another potential problem is what if you were
to lose ship power completely in IFR. It's totally feasible to carry on for
quite a while using vacuum instruments but your ELT would now have coordinates
that would have the SAR teams in a completely different area.
Integration is a good thing under normal conditions. But when your ELT needs
to be used, you are usually outside the normal envelope and all bets are off.
Really stop and think about what integration vs. stand alone get's you for saving
that extra couple bucks and a few ounces. To each his own but I want something
that is isolated from ship functions when it may make the difference between
finding me or being one of the 8 other aircraft out there that is found
years later while looking for someone famous. God speed to all those lost souls.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
No, Ameri-King did not indicate the price or timeframe for this new ELT,
I was just glad to hear we are going to have competition in this space.
As for the GPS option on the ELT, I for one was hoping to not have another
GPS in my airplane, when I already have 3. I have dual Garmin 430W which
are WAAS certified and a Garmin 496 handheld. I am wanting to connect the RS-232
aviation output from one of my 430W to the ELT and then have the ELT keep
a copy of the latest GPS Sentence which has the Long/Lat and then transmit that,
if the ELT was activated. But so far, I think all ELT's with the GPS option
are embedding it into the ELT itself, so now you will likely need another GPS
Antenna mounted on top and I don't want that. With everything having GPS in
it in the future, I can see a time where we have 4+ GPS Antenna's on the plane.
One for you Panel Mount, Handheld, ADSB UAT and ELT. I am just trying to
minimize this. There is no reason the ADSB UAT and the ELT can't use the output
from my 430W!
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
N519RV (Going to LOE 07)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
>From what I have read, GPS data get's you a couple things. First and foremost
it gives rescuers immediate coordinates to begin their search within a 100 meter
radius. With just the 406 beacon, it will take several passes of low orbit
SAR satellites to narrow down your location using Doppler Shift. The feds also
say accuracy using DS is 1-3 miles, time & samples variable.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
With regard to the GPS location data option, has anyone seen any statistics
on the benefit of this? How accurate is the satellite positioning on the
406 mhz units? Is the accuracy such that the GPS link makes a big
difference in locating the beacon?
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
<Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Here is the email chain I had with Ameri-King about there plans for
a 406 Mhz ELT.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
N519RV (Hobbs = 310)
Looking forward to LOE 07
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Dear Ray :
Thank you for your Email today,
The new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 shall be the same footprint and size as our
ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement.
Another version of ELT 406.00 MHz is also available with an option of
included the GPS feature within the ELT.
Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S
products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon.
BEST REGARDS,
VICTOR VAN
SALES MANAGER
AMERI-KING CORP.
17881 Sampson Lane
Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA
Tel (714) 842-8555
Fax (714) 842-4235
Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com
Web Site: www.ameri-king.com
-----Original Message-----
From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Sent: 2007-09-11 08:47:58
Subject: RE: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Thanks for your reply. Based on your reply, I was not clear if your AK-451
was the same footprint and size as the AK-450.
Will the AK-451 support an RS-232 Serial In Line from a Panel
Mounted GPS so that the AK-451 would transmit the last known Long and Lat
from the GPS Data? I would like to see the AK-451 read this GPS Data and
then save the most recent copy that it would then use if the ELT was
activated.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
CDNI Principal Engineer
Sprint PCS
16020 West 113th Street
Lenexa, KS 66219
Mailstop KSLNXK0101
(913) 859-1414 (Office)
(913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
(913) 859-1234 (Fax)
Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Dear Ray :
Thank you for your Email today,
We shall manufacture the ELT 406 MHz in the next few months. We are now at
the last step of FAA TSO Certification stage for ELT 406 MHz P/N AK-451.
However, we have been contact with the FAA almost everyday and confirmed
that there will not have any requirement from FAA about ELT 406 MHz in 2008.
May be there are strong opposition from AOPA.
The requirement of ELT 406.0 MHz will be for the Marine only in 2009. The
Military Satellites of 121.0/243.0 MHz will be available after 2009 for
sure.
If we distribute the new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 with the same footprints,
same sizes as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement.
We also have a program of exchange to ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 and credit to
your old ELT AK-450.
Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S
products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon.
BEST REGARDS,
VICTOR VAN
SALES MANAGER
AMERI-KING CORP.
17881 Sampson Lane
Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA
Tel (714) 842-8555
Fax (714) 842-4235
Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com
Web Site: www.ameri-king.com
-----Original Message-----
From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Sent: 2007-09-10 12:02:36
Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
I was hoping AmeriKing would create a 406 Mhz ELT using the same package as
the AK-450 ELT. Do you have any info you can share on this topic?
Thank You
Ray Doerr
CDNI Principal Engineer
Sprint PCS
16020 West 113th Street
Lenexa, KS 66219
Mailstop KSLNXK0101
(913) 859-1414 (Office)
(913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
(913) 859-1234 (Fax)
Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com
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| Subject: | Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. |
One other thing to add. When you survive a forced landing in the mountains,
it would be nice to pull the ELT and take it with you. If you are integrated
with the ships GPS it might get a bit messy ripping out a surviving GPS and rigging
up a cable to get the ELT to update your coordinates when you go and seek
shelter, water, or food. Then there is the problem of carrying around a heavy
battery, etc. You get my point. :-)
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Sausen On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
When thinking about integrating devices, it's not always best to have all of
your eggs in one basket. In my mind I would want a completely independent system
when it comes to SAR. For instance, the ELT runs off its own internal power,
isolating it from ship faults. Another potential problem is what if you were
to lose ship power completely in IFR. It's totally feasible to carry on for
quite a while using vacuum instruments but your ELT would now have coordinates
that would have the SAR teams in a completely different area.
Integration is a good thing under normal conditions. But when your ELT needs
to be used, you are usually outside the normal envelope and all bets are off.
Really stop and think about what integration vs. stand alone get's you for saving
that extra couple bucks and a few ounces. To each his own but I want something
that is isolated from ship functions when it may make the difference between
finding me or being one of the 8 other aircraft out there that is found
years later while looking for someone famous. God speed to all those lost souls.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
No, Ameri-King did not indicate the price or timeframe for this new ELT,
I was just glad to hear we are going to have competition in this space.
As for the GPS option on the ELT, I for one was hoping to not have another
GPS in my airplane, when I already have 3. I have dual Garmin 430W which
are WAAS certified and a Garmin 496 handheld. I am wanting to connect the RS-232
aviation output from one of my 430W to the ELT and then have the ELT keep
a copy of the latest GPS Sentence which has the Long/Lat and then transmit that,
if the ELT was activated. But so far, I think all ELT's with the GPS option
are embedding it into the ELT itself, so now you will likely need another GPS
Antenna mounted on top and I don't want that. With everything having GPS in
it in the future, I can see a time where we have 4+ GPS Antenna's on the plane.
One for you Panel Mount, Handheld, ADSB UAT and ELT. I am just trying to
minimize this. There is no reason the ADSB UAT and the ELT can't use the output
from my 430W!
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
N519RV (Going to LOE 07)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
>From what I have read, GPS data get's you a couple things. First and foremost
it gives rescuers immediate coordinates to begin their search within a 100 meter
radius. With just the 406 beacon, it will take several passes of low orbit
SAR satellites to narrow down your location using Doppler Shift. The feds also
say accuracy using DS is 1-3 miles, time & samples variable.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
With regard to the GPS location data option, has anyone seen any statistics
on the benefit of this? How accurate is the satellite positioning on the
406 mhz units? Is the accuracy such that the GPS link makes a big
difference in locating the beacon?
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
<Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Here is the email chain I had with Ameri-King about there plans for
a 406 Mhz ELT.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
N519RV (Hobbs = 310)
Looking forward to LOE 07
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Dear Ray :
Thank you for your Email today,
The new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 shall be the same footprint and size as our
ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement.
Another version of ELT 406.00 MHz is also available with an option of
included the GPS feature within the ELT.
Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S
products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon.
BEST REGARDS,
VICTOR VAN
SALES MANAGER
AMERI-KING CORP.
17881 Sampson Lane
Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA
Tel (714) 842-8555
Fax (714) 842-4235
Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com
Web Site: www.ameri-king.com
-----Original Message-----
From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Sent: 2007-09-11 08:47:58
Subject: RE: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Thanks for your reply. Based on your reply, I was not clear if your AK-451
was the same footprint and size as the AK-450.
Will the AK-451 support an RS-232 Serial In Line from a Panel
Mounted GPS so that the AK-451 would transmit the last known Long and Lat
from the GPS Data? I would like to see the AK-451 read this GPS Data and
then save the most recent copy that it would then use if the ELT was
activated.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
CDNI Principal Engineer
Sprint PCS
16020 West 113th Street
Lenexa, KS 66219
Mailstop KSLNXK0101
(913) 859-1414 (Office)
(913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
(913) 859-1234 (Fax)
Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Dear Ray :
Thank you for your Email today,
We shall manufacture the ELT 406 MHz in the next few months. We are now at
the last step of FAA TSO Certification stage for ELT 406 MHz P/N AK-451.
However, we have been contact with the FAA almost everyday and confirmed
that there will not have any requirement from FAA about ELT 406 MHz in 2008.
May be there are strong opposition from AOPA.
The requirement of ELT 406.0 MHz will be for the Marine only in 2009. The
Military Satellites of 121.0/243.0 MHz will be available after 2009 for
sure.
If we distribute the new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 with the same footprints,
same sizes as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement.
We also have a program of exchange to ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 and credit to
your old ELT AK-450.
Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S
products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon.
BEST REGARDS,
VICTOR VAN
SALES MANAGER
AMERI-KING CORP.
17881 Sampson Lane
Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA
Tel (714) 842-8555
Fax (714) 842-4235
Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com
Web Site: www.ameri-king.com
-----Original Message-----
From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Sent: 2007-09-10 12:02:36
Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
I was hoping AmeriKing would create a 406 Mhz ELT using the same package as
the AK-450 ELT. Do you have any info you can share on this topic?
Thank You
Ray Doerr
CDNI Principal Engineer
Sprint PCS
16020 West 113th Street
Lenexa, KS 66219
Mailstop KSLNXK0101
(913) 859-1414 (Office)
(913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
(913) 859-1234 (Fax)
Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Sealant |
For those builders who have used PolySulfate (stinky) Thioxotrophic
(sticky shit) sealer known as "Proseal" by one brand name, and maligned
by other makers. The product used for fuel tank sealing is entirely
different than the product to sustain higher temperatures inside an
engine cowl.
It is wise to observe the appearance of the final "High Temperature"
sealant after cure before making a commitment to use it beyond its
intended purpose.
The manufacturer (You) has lots of products to chose from. A material,
B material and C material all have differing viscosities. 1/4 sets in
15 minutes, 1/2 sets in 30 and 2 sets in two hours. Each product number
change also changes the properties, color, flexibility and heat
resistance.
Is that what you wanted Gary?
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:27 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Firewall Sealant
AV8ORJWC wrote:
>
> Reserve your decision until after you watch the dried product on the
rib
> subassemblies. Then you should have no regrets.
>
John,
Could you please expand on this. I will be starting Section 27 next
week and want to make sure I understand what you are saying.
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RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
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| Subject: | Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. |
Good point, maybe we can at least get them to design a integrated Antenna for
both GPS and 406 Mhz transmission.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:41 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
One other thing to add. When you survive a forced landing in the mountains,
it would be nice to pull the ELT and take it with you. If you are integrated
with the ships GPS it might get a bit messy ripping out a surviving GPS and rigging
up a cable to get the ELT to update your coordinates when you go and seek
shelter, water, or food. Then there is the problem of carrying around a heavy
battery, etc. You get my point. :-)
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Sausen On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
When thinking about integrating devices, it's not always best to have all of
your eggs in one basket. In my mind I would want a completely independent system
when it comes to SAR. For instance, the ELT runs off its own internal power,
isolating it from ship faults. Another potential problem is what if you were
to lose ship power completely in IFR. It's totally feasible to carry on for
quite a while using vacuum instruments but your ELT would now have coordinates
that would have the SAR teams in a completely different area.
Integration is a good thing under normal conditions. But when your ELT needs
to be used, you are usually outside the normal envelope and all bets are off.
Really stop and think about what integration vs. stand alone get's you for saving
that extra couple bucks and a few ounces. To each his own but I want something
that is isolated from ship functions when it may make the difference between
finding me or being one of the 8 other aircraft out there that is found
years later while looking for someone famous. God speed to all those lost souls.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
No, Ameri-King did not indicate the price or timeframe for this new ELT,
I was just glad to hear we are going to have competition in this space.
As for the GPS option on the ELT, I for one was hoping to not have another
GPS in my airplane, when I already have 3. I have dual Garmin 430W which
are WAAS certified and a Garmin 496 handheld. I am wanting to connect the RS-232
aviation output from one of my 430W to the ELT and then have the ELT keep
a copy of the latest GPS Sentence which has the Long/Lat and then transmit that,
if the ELT was activated. But so far, I think all ELT's with the GPS option
are embedding it into the ELT itself, so now you will likely need another GPS
Antenna mounted on top and I don't want that. With everything having GPS in
it in the future, I can see a time where we have 4+ GPS Antenna's on the plane.
One for you Panel Mount, Handheld, ADSB UAT and ELT. I am just trying to
minimize this. There is no reason the ADSB UAT and the ELT can't use the output
from my 430W!
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
N519RV (Going to LOE 07)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
>From what I have read, GPS data get's you a couple things. First and foremost
it gives rescuers immediate coordinates to begin their search within a 100 meter
radius. With just the 406 beacon, it will take several passes of low orbit
SAR satellites to narrow down your location using Doppler Shift. The feds also
say accuracy using DS is 1-3 miles, time & samples variable.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
With regard to the GPS location data option, has anyone seen any statistics
on the benefit of this? How accurate is the satellite positioning on the
406 mhz units? Is the accuracy such that the GPS link makes a big
difference in locating the beacon?
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
<Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Here is the email chain I had with Ameri-King about there plans for
a 406 Mhz ELT.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
N519RV (Hobbs = 310)
Looking forward to LOE 07
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Dear Ray :
Thank you for your Email today,
The new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 shall be the same footprint and size as our
ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement.
Another version of ELT 406.00 MHz is also available with an option of
included the GPS feature within the ELT.
Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S
products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon.
BEST REGARDS,
VICTOR VAN
SALES MANAGER
AMERI-KING CORP.
17881 Sampson Lane
Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA
Tel (714) 842-8555
Fax (714) 842-4235
Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com
Web Site: www.ameri-king.com
-----Original Message-----
From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Sent: 2007-09-11 08:47:58
Subject: RE: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Thanks for your reply. Based on your reply, I was not clear if your AK-451
was the same footprint and size as the AK-450.
Will the AK-451 support an RS-232 Serial In Line from a Panel
Mounted GPS so that the AK-451 would transmit the last known Long and Lat
from the GPS Data? I would like to see the AK-451 read this GPS Data and
then save the most recent copy that it would then use if the ELT was
activated.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
CDNI Principal Engineer
Sprint PCS
16020 West 113th Street
Lenexa, KS 66219
Mailstop KSLNXK0101
(913) 859-1414 (Office)
(913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
(913) 859-1234 (Fax)
Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Van [mailto:sales@ameri-king.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
Dear Ray :
Thank you for your Email today,
We shall manufacture the ELT 406 MHz in the next few months. We are now at
the last step of FAA TSO Certification stage for ELT 406 MHz P/N AK-451.
However, we have been contact with the FAA almost everyday and confirmed
that there will not have any requirement from FAA about ELT 406 MHz in 2008.
May be there are strong opposition from AOPA.
The requirement of ELT 406.0 MHz will be for the Marine only in 2009. The
Military Satellites of 121.0/243.0 MHz will be available after 2009 for
sure.
If we distribute the new ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 with the same footprints,
same sizes as our ELT AK-450 for easy retrofit direct replacement.
We also have a program of exchange to ELT 406.0 MHz P/N AK-451 and credit to
your old ELT AK-450.
Please accept our sincere appreciation for your interest in AMERI-KING'S
products. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon.
BEST REGARDS,
VICTOR VAN
SALES MANAGER
AMERI-KING CORP.
17881 Sampson Lane
Huntington Beach, CA 92648 USA
Tel (714) 842-8555
Fax (714) 842-4235
Email ameriking9@aol.com, Sales@ameri-king.com
Web Site: www.ameri-king.com
-----Original Message-----
From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Sent: 2007-09-10 12:02:36
Subject: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT.
I was hoping AmeriKing would create a 406 Mhz ELT using the same package as
the AK-450 ELT. Do you have any info you can share on this topic?
Thank You
Ray Doerr
CDNI Principal Engineer
Sprint PCS
16020 West 113th Street
Lenexa, KS 66219
Mailstop KSLNXK0101
(913) 859-1414 (Office)
(913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
(913) 859-1234 (Fax)
Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Sealant |
AV8ORJWC wrote:
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> Is that what you wanted Gary?
>
> John
>
> --
No, I am aware of the basic differences but the way I read your comment, there
was something in the way the Firewall product was used or ??? that I might need
to be aware of in where or how I would want to use it on the Firewall.
Sorry, it is late and today has been a hard day at work so I know I am not making
sense.
Gary
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(N410GB reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Sealant |
I think John was referring to the firewall version having a different
consistency, that perhaps doesn't flow as smooth or dry as smooth as the
tank sealing version..so you may want to be more cautious where you apply
it, to keep a nice looking firewall. I'm sure that if I am misinterpreting,
John will speak up in the morning after work.
On 9/13/07, orchidman <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> AV8ORJWC wrote:
> >
> > Is that what you wanted Gary?
> >
> > John
> >
> > --
>
> No, I am aware of the basic differences but the way I read your comment,
> there was something in the way the Firewall product was used or ??? that I
> might need to be aware of in where or how I would want to use it on the
> Firewall.
> Sorry, it is late and today has been a hard day at work so I know I am not
> making sense.
>
> Gary
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Fuselage SB
> (N410GB reserved)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=134313#134313
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| Subject: | Re: Is AmeriKing going to create a 406 Mhz ELT. |
There was a new ELT presented at Oshkosh.
http://en.martec.fr/page/p-191/art_id-/
They claim to be better than the competition.
Michael
www.wellenzohn.net (just painted the interior)
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