---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/21/07: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:19 AM - FW: Fuel Tanks - To Alodine or Not to Alodine - That is the Question? (Patrick Pulis) 2. 04:19 AM - Re: Removing the front seats (Sam Marlow) 3. 04:21 AM - Re: Removing the front seats (Sam Marlow) 4. 05:31 AM - Re: Removing the front seats (Jesse Saint) 5. 05:46 PM - Vertical Power (Jesse Saint) 6. 06:11 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Calibration Problem (Dynon FliteDek 180) (johngoodman) 7. 06:15 PM - Re: Spiders!!! (johngoodman) 8. 06:38 PM - Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG (Deems Davis) 9. 06:42 PM - Dynon heated AOA/Pitot (johngoodman) 10. 06:55 PM - Re: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG () 11. 07:01 PM - Re: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG (Rene Felker) 12. 07:13 PM - Gretz pitot and Tru-Trak (Dave Leikam) 13. 07:44 PM - Re: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG (Jesse Saint) 14. 08:24 PM - Re: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG (Deems Davis) 15. 10:50 PM - Re: Gretz pitot and Tru-Trak (Deems Davis) 16. 11:53 PM - Re: Vertical Power (Robin Marks) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:08 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: FW: Fuel Tanks - To Alodine or Not to Alodine - That is the Question? From: "Patrick Pulis" ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:24 AM PST US From: Sam Marlow Subject: Re: RV10-List: Removing the front seats Thanks for the response! Do not archive. DejaVu wrote: > > Nah, not that much work. A pointy exacto carves the nylon away > nicely. Just pull the seat back as far as it will go. Look at the > front side of the seat rails and carve away the nylon portion that's > preventing the seat back from coming up. > > Anh > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Removing the front seats > > >> >> >> >> It takes a little work, but it's possible. What you do is to trim a >> bevel into that nylon slide runner on the seat side of the rails. >> You trim it on the front side of the rails, so that when you pull >> the seat latch off and slide it all the way back, there's enough >> slop that you can tip the back of the seat upwards. It's much >> harder to explain than to see...but it's just loosening up the first >> 3/4" or so of that nylon glide. >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >> >> >> >> Sam Marlow wrote: >>> Just finished installing the interior, but now I need to crawl under >>> the panel again. How do I remove the front seats without removing >>> the rear carpet and flap drive cover? That's a lot of work! I think >>> someone had a solution back a year or so ago, but I couldn't locate >>> it in the archives. >>> Thanks! >>> Sam Marlow >>> >>> * >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:36 AM PST US From: Sam Marlow Subject: Re: RV10-List: Removing the front seats Thanks! Do not archive. Jesse Saint wrote: > > This was the fix I was referring to and just got the detail wrong. I think this fix is better than the one I erroneously described. > > Do not archive. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation > jesse@saintaviation.com > C: 352-427-0285 > F: 815-377-3694 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "DejaVu" > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: 9/20/2007 11:51 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Removing the front seats > > > Nah, not that much work. A pointy exacto carves the nylon away nicely. > Just pull the seat back as far as it will go. Look at the front side of the > seat rails and carve away the nylon portion that's preventing the seat back > from coming up. > > Anh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Olson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Removing the front seats > > > >> >> It takes a little work, but it's possible. What you do is to trim a bevel >> into that nylon slide runner on the seat side of the rails. >> You trim it on the front side of the rails, so that when you pull >> the seat latch off and slide it all the way back, there's enough >> slop that you can tip the back of the seat upwards. It's much >> harder to explain than to see...but it's just loosening up the first >> 3/4" or so of that nylon glide. >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >> >> >> >> Sam Marlow wrote: >> >>> Just finished installing the interior, but now I need to crawl under the >>> panel again. How do I remove the front seats without removing the rear >>> carpet and flap drive cover? That's a lot of work! I think someone had a >>> solution back a year or so ago, but I couldn't locate it in the archives >>> > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:32 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Removing the front seats OK, so last night when my phone was telling me that it couldn't send the message, I guess it lied. Sorry for all of the e-mails. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Saint [mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 1:11 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Removing the front seats This was the fix I was referring to and just got the detail wrong. I think this fix is better than the one I erroneously described. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: "DejaVu" Sent: 9/20/2007 11:51 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Removing the front seats Nah, not that much work. A pointy exacto carves the nylon away nicely. Just pull the seat back as far as it will go. Look at the front side of the seat rails and carve away the nylon portion that's preventing the seat back from coming up. Anh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Removing the front seats > > > > It takes a little work, but it's possible. What you do is to trim a bevel > into that nylon slide runner on the seat side of the rails. > You trim it on the front side of the rails, so that when you pull > the seat latch off and slide it all the way back, there's enough > slop that you can tip the back of the seat upwards. It's much > harder to explain than to see...but it's just loosening up the first > 3/4" or so of that nylon glide. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > > > Sam Marlow wrote: >> Just finished installing the interior, but now I need to crawl under the >> panel again. How do I remove the front seats without removing the rear >> carpet and flap drive cover? That's a lot of work! I think someone had a >> solution back a year or so ago, but I couldn't locate it in the archives ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:09 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RV10-List: Vertical Power I am going to be installing a Vertical Power system in the next month and a half. Those who are interested in the system can write me off list if they are interested in talking about the setup. Stein highly recommended it, which was enough for me. I'll let the list know what we think once we are flying with it. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:25 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fuel Tank Calibration Problem (Dynon FliteDek 180) From: "johngoodman" Albert, I just finished installing mine and pressure tested it. I think the ground is the mount's screws attached to the airplane. The center screw picks up the resistance. Frankly, I don't think it makes any difference which way you wire it since it's just ohms, but I ain't no electrician.... Maybe you don't have a good ground. Put an ohmmeter to the big screw and one of the mounting screws to see what you got. The swing on mine was 31 full, 245 empty. Good luck. -------- #40572 Empennage done, starting QB Wings N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135698#135698 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:54 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Spiders!!! From: "johngoodman" Get a dehumidifier. Make it bone dry in there if you can and you'll have nothing but dessicated spiders that can be vacuumed out. John -------- #40572 Empennage done, starting QB Wings N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135700#135700 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:59 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: RV10-List: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG Has anyone had any difficulty with attaching pitot/static lines to the Tru-Trak A/P? I've got the pitot/static kit from Safeair, and it has the 'instant' brass fittings that you screw into the various instruments and then push the poly tubing into. The brass fittings fit into the encoder, the ADC, the Dynon EFIS, but NOT the Tru Trak, When I attempt to screw them in they begin to cock to one side, forcing it will result in the threads being stripped. it appears that the holes that are tapped in what appears to be a black plastic fitting on the rear of the Tru Trak are slightly smaller (rough measurement w/ caliper confirms. Anybody know what size threads these are? I checked the install manual but nothing referenced there. Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:55 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Dynon heated AOA/Pitot From: "johngoodman" What are others doing to route the second tube, wiring, and controller in the wing? I'm thinking of enlarging the Vans pitot snap bushings to a larger size and mounting the controller to the inside of the bottom skin with an access panel. I'm reluctant to route tubing through lightening holes. John -------- #40572 Empennage done, starting QB Wings N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135704#135704 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:39 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG Deems: It's normal 1/8" pipe thread. I used nylo-seal fitting, and they went right in. And, the same fitting fit all instruments, as well as, the TT. Good luck, Steve Mills N750SM (reserved) RV-10 40486 Slow-build Eggenfellner E-6T Naperville, Illinois Finishing kit Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:37 PM Subject: RV10-List: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG Has anyone had any difficulty with attaching pitot/static lines to the Tru-Trak A/P? I've got the pitot/static kit from Safeair, and it has the 'instant' brass fittings that you screw into the various instruments and then push the poly tubing into. The brass fittings fit into the encoder, the ADC, the Dynon EFIS, but NOT the Tru Trak, When I attempt to screw them in they begin to cock to one side, forcing it will result in the threads being stripped. it appears that the holes that are tapped in what appears to be a black plastic fitting on the rear of the Tru Trak are slightly smaller (rough measurement w/ caliper confirms. Anybody know what size threads these are? I checked the install manual but nothing referenced there. Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:17 PM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG I had a similar problem. Once I got them started they went in easy.....to easy for me and I ended up cracking the piece of plastic. I emailed Tru-Trak and they told me I had to send the unit back. The fittings are supposed to be finger tight and then a quarter turn, no more. I sent my unit back and they replaced the plastic piece and put the fitting in for me......I sent the fitting back with the unit and asked them to do it. Other than my shipping cost to them, they did it for free. Only took about 10 days. Great company, great support. Rene' Felker N423CF 40322 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: RV10-List: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG Has anyone had any difficulty with attaching pitot/static lines to the Tru-Trak A/P? I've got the pitot/static kit from Safeair, and it has the 'instant' brass fittings that you screw into the various instruments and then push the poly tubing into. The brass fittings fit into the encoder, the ADC, the Dynon EFIS, but NOT the Tru Trak, When I attempt to screw them in they begin to cock to one side, forcing it will result in the threads being stripped. it appears that the holes that are tapped in what appears to be a black plastic fitting on the rear of the Tru Trak are slightly smaller (rough measurement w/ caliper confirms. Anybody know what size threads these are? I checked the install manual but nothing referenced there. Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:03 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: RV10-List: Gretz pitot and Tru-Trak Three questions for ya'll, For those with a Gretz pitot, where did you mount the control circuit board? I have Safe Air static kit, did you use the green nylon tube all the way to the pitot or Van's aluminum tube? (Tim I know you used AL tube from your site.) On my Tru-Trak roll servo there is a "stop limit bracket." Did you install this? Thanks!!! Dave Leikam 40496 Wing guts ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:44:10 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG I have had this happen in the past. You just have to work at it a little bit to get it straight then it goes in with out trouble. It is the same threads as all the other instruments I have used, just a little tougher to get started. Do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: Deems Davis [mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: RV10-List: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG Has anyone had any difficulty with attaching pitot/static lines to the Tru-Trak A/P? I've got the pitot/static kit from Safeair, and it has the 'instant' brass fittings that you screw into the various instruments and then push the poly tubing into. The brass fittings fit into the encoder, the ADC, the Dynon EFIS, but NOT the Tru Trak, When I attempt to screw them in they begin to cock to one side, forcing it will result in the threads being stripped. it appears that the holes that are tapped in what appears to be a black plastic fitting on the rear of the Tru Trak are slightly smaller (rough measurement w/ caliper confirms. Anybody know what size threads these are? I checked the install manual but nothing referenced there. Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:51 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG Thanks to All, a little careful perseverance and they are in, it just didn't make sense that they would be a different size than the others. Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ Jesse Saint wrote: > > I have had this happen in the past. You just have to work at it a little > bit to get it straight then it goes in with out trouble. It is the same > threads as all the other instruments I have used, just a little tougher to > get started. > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:24 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gretz pitot and Tru-Trak Check these pics re Gretz location :http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2020%20Bottom%20Wing%20Skin/slides/DSC02110.html I used the green tube all the way to the pitot, im not sure this is the best way, I tried contacting Gretz, but couldn't get an answer. My reasoning was that the benefit of the Gretz is that it cycles the current on & off as required so that the pitot head isn't always hot, and therefore it shouldn't get as hot as the traditional installations ????? Re stop limit bracket : Yes I did : http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2020%20Bottom%20Wing%20Skin/slides/DSC02106.html Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ Dave Leikam wrote: > Three questions for ya'll, > > For those with a Gretz pitot, where did you mount the control circuit > board? I have Safe Air static kit, did you use the green nylon tube > all the way to the pitot or Van's aluminum tube? > (Tim I know you used AL tube from your site.) > > On my Tru-Trak roll servo there is a "stop limit bracket." Did you > install this? > * > > * ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:20 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Vertical Power From: "Robin Marks" Jessie, Make periodic posts on the list. It should be of interest to the -10 crowd. Posting seems easier than a bunch of different conversations about the same thing. Just a thought, Robin Do Not Archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: RV10-List: Vertical Power I am going to be installing a Vertical Power system in the next month and a half. Those who are interested in the system can write me off list if they are interested in talking about the setup. Stein highly recommended it, which was enough for me. I'll let the list know what we think once we are flying with it. Do not archive. 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