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1. 05:48 AM - Re: Puzzled, perplex & confused in the fuse .... (egohr1)
2. 07:04 AM - Re: Puzzled, perplex & confused in the fuse .... (DLIUDVINAITIS@aol.com)
3. 08:48 AM - Aluminum aircraft - basis for corrosion (John W. Cox)
4. 11:58 AM - Re: Puzzled, perplex & confused in the fuse .... (Les Kearney)
5. 01:12 PM - throttle, etc cables ()
6. 01:25 PM - Re: throttle, etc cables (Chris and Susie McGough)
7. 01:37 PM - spinner (Chris and Susie McGough)
8. 02:13 PM - Re: Vertical Power (Michael Wellenzohn)
9. 04:38 PM - Re: Gretz pitot and Tru-Trak (Tim Olson)
10. 04:46 PM - engine baffling--paint? (Jay Rowe)
11. 05:13 PM - Re: engine baffling--paint? (Carl Froehlich)
12. 05:15 PM - Re: spinner (Dave Saylor)
13. 06:41 PM - Re: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG (Larry Rosen)
14. 06:51 PM - Re: throttle, etc cables (Byron Gillespie)
15. 07:34 PM - Fast Stack Wiring Harness (Les Kearney)
16. 07:50 PM - Re: Fast Stack Wiring Harness (Robin Marks)
17. 08:26 PM - Re: Fast Stack Wiring Harness (Les Kearney)
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| Subject: | Re: Puzzled, perplex & confused in the fuse .... |
I had the same problem. If you look at the parts in question and compare them
to the other seat rail supports and find one of the legs on the angle to be short
call Vans, they sent me new parts.
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EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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| Subject: | Re: Puzzled, perplex & confused in the fuse .... |
LES
HAD SAME PROBLEM . THE F1043F-L&R ARE DRILLED WRONG. LOOK AT THE ANGLE AT
ITS SIDE VIEW. HOLES TO JOIN BOTH F1043F PARTS TOGETHER ARE ON THE LARGER WIDTH
SIDE WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE SMALLER. CALLED VANS THEY REPLACED BOTH SETS
AOK! HOPE THIS HELPS.
DAVE LIUDVINAITIS
#40466
FUSELAGE
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| Subject: | Aluminum aircraft - basis for corrosion |
Slow Sunday. One of my co-members at my aviation group (Columbia
Aviation Association) is the North American, CEO for SAPA RC one of the
world's largest specialty manufacturer's of aluminum products. His firm
has contributed to an interactive website to help users of aluminum to
better understand important issues - "Aluminum Matter".
John Noordwijk, is both an avid sailor and pilot (owning a Cirrus) but
also curious on the RV-10 build and issues which arise. Several of
SAPA's engineers provide technical support to this website.
http://aluminium.matter.org.uk/content/html/eng/default.asp?catid=180&p
a
geid=2144416690
If you take the time to core deeper, you will find a wealth of
explanations, graphics and questions (for you to answer) that can make
us all better manufacturers of aircraft. Three of their products are
2024, 3003 and 7075 which hold value with aviation construction. I am
seeing several of the forms of corrosion in the aircraft I work on.
Understanding what contributes to it allows us a path towards
causal/corrective actions.
John Cox
#600
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| Subject: | Puzzled, perplex & confused in the fuse .... |
Eric / Dave
Thanks for the timely response. I am glad I wasn't seeing things <vbg>.
Perhaps this should be added to Tim's "Gotcha" list so that builders can
check for this problem before they need the parts.
Cheers
Les
#40643 - now only partially confused in the fuse.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: September-22-07 11:33 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Puzzled, perplex & confused in the fuse ....
Hi
As I continue to build I have found that when anything didn't seem right in
the kit, it was because of the then builder not getting the right slot "a"
lined up with the right slot "b". Until now that is..
I have spent the priming and deburring parts associated with Secton 28 - the
mid fuse. I started to assemble the forward fuselage bulkhead sub-assembly
(Page 28-4) and found that the inboard forward seat rail support just won't
fit. The bolt / rivet holes that should match the corresponding holes on the
F1043A L/R & F1043B L/R bulkheads are two close by about 1/8". The nut
plate hole that should match the hole in the F1043B L/R flange is too far
forward by 1/16" inch.
The outboard seat rail supports fix perfectly.
I have assembled the inboard seat rail supports correctly (see page 28-3)
(there is really only one way to make the supports).
Has anyone else run into this problem? Any suggestions? I would like to
press on building this weekend and plan to call Van's on Monday.
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643 - frustrated in the fuse ..
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| Subject: | throttle, etc cables |
I ran my throttle, prop, and mixture cables over the bottom bar of the
engine mount, like shown on the FF plans. Seems like not a lot of room
in there and potential for rubbing. Did other folks do the same, or let
the cables go under the bottom bar of the engine mount?
Thanks,
TDT
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| Subject: | Re: throttle, etc cables |
throttle, etc cablesMy cables were not long enough as supplied by FF kit
and using the pre punched holes in firewall so I made new holes in the
fire wall and run the cables under the bar and clamped them.
regards Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:10 AM
Subject: RV10-List: throttle, etc cables
I ran my throttle, prop, and mixture cables over the bottom bar of the
engine mount, like shown on the FF plans. Seems like not a lot of room
in there and potential for rubbing. Did other folks do the same, or let
the cables go under the bottom bar of the engine mount?
Thanks,
TDT
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throttle, etc cablesWith the spinner instalation are people turning the
prop to make sure the spinner is true? Just wondering as the engine is
preserved and did not want to turn?
regards Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Vertical Power |
Jesse,
I expect mine to be shipped next week. I'll also publish me progress and experience
here in the forum. But it might take a little longer since I will go on vacation
soon.
Michael
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RV-10 builder (fuselage)
#511
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| Subject: | Re: Gretz pitot and Tru-Trak |
I just mounted the controller out on a rib right near the pitot
tube. With it mounted out in the further bays where I put it,
I could reach that area from the end of the wing.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Dave Leikam wrote:
> Three questions for ya'll,
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> For those with a Gretz pitot, where did you mount the control circuit
> board? I have Safe Air static kit, did you use the green nylon tube all
> the way to the pitot or Van's aluminum tube?
> (Tim I know you used AL tube from your site.)
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> On my Tru-Trak roll servo there is a "stop limit bracket." Did you
> install this?
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> Thanks!!!
>
> Dave Leikam
> 40496
> Wing guts
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> *
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| Subject: | engine baffling--paint? |
Just starting the engine baffling. Could/should I paint the baffling or
just leave it as shiny alum? If painting is advised what do I use for
paint, and what kind of prep works needs to be done on the alum?
Thanks 10'ers. Jay Rowe
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| Subject: | engine baffling--paint? |
I used a dark gray, single stage Imron paint over PPG DP40LF primer for the
baffles on my 8A. I used the same paint with a lighter gray Imron contrast
color for the interior. This is a hard, durable paint. After 5 years it
still looks brand new.
PPG Concept single stage paint is also a good choice. For the exterior I
used PPG Concept clear/base coat. The product is very forgiving to the
amateur painter.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (350 hrs)
RV-10 (wings)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay Rowe
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: RV10-List: engine baffling--paint?
Just starting the engine baffling. Could/should I paint the baffling or
just leave it as shiny alum? If painting is advised what do I use for
paint, and what kind of prep works needs to be done on the alum? Thanks
10'ers. Jay Rowe
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Chris,
You won't "de-preserve" it by turning the prop through by hand. Take the
top plugs out so it's easier, and put a pointer at the tip of the spinner to
check how true it turns. You will displace the spinner a bit when turning
the prop, but if you kind of average it out the fit is just fine.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie
McGough
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: spinner
With the spinner instalation are people turning the prop to make sure the
spinner is true? Just wondering as the engine is preserved and did not want
to turn?
regards Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG |
From Wikipedia.org <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominal_Pipe_Size>
*"Nominal Pipe Size* (NPS) is a set of standard pipe sizes used for
pressure piping in North America. ... The NPS is very loosely related
to the inside diameter in inches, but only for NPS 1/8 to NPS 12. For
NPS 14 and larger, the NPS is equal to the outside diameter (OD) in
inches. For a given NPS, the OD stays constant and the wall thickness
increases with larger SCH. For a given SCH, the OD increases with
increasing NPS while the wall thickness increases or stays constant."
Larry
DejaVu wrote:
>
> Why is it called 1/8" anyway? it's not close to anything on the
> fitting or the instrument itself. I think it took me 2 weeks to learn
> this not too long ago.
> Anh
> N591VU Flying
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:58 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll
> VSVG
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>> Deems:
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>> Good luck,
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>> Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
>> RV-10 40486 Slow-build Eggenfellner E-6T
>> Naperville, Illinois
>> Finishing kit
>> Do Not Archive
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
>> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:37 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Pitot/Static fittings on TruTrak Digflight ll VSVG
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>> Has anyone had any difficulty with attaching pitot/static lines to the
>> Tru-Trak A/P?
>> I've got the pitot/static kit from Safeair, and it has the 'instant'
>> brass fittings that you screw into the various instruments and then
>> push the
>> poly tubing into. The brass fittings fit into the encoder, the ADC, the
>> Dynon EFIS, but NOT the Tru Trak, When I attempt to screw them in
>> they begin
>> to cock to one side, forcing it will result in the threads being
>> stripped.
>> it appears that the holes that are tapped in what appears to be a black
>> plastic fitting on the rear of the Tru Trak are slightly smaller (rough
>> measurement w/ caliper confirms. Anybody know what size threads these
>> are? I
>> checked the install manual but nothing referenced there.
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>> Deems Davis # 406
>> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
>> http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | throttle, etc cables |
I ran mine under the bar - but also did not have enough cable length. I
am using a canted center panel that my knobs mount on - this takes up an
extra inch or so leaving me buying a new set of cables. But like you,
It looked like over time it might get a little close - so I didn't want
to take a chance.
Byron
Wrapping up the panel install
N253RV Assigned
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 4:11 PM
Subject: RV10-List: throttle, etc cables
I ran my throttle, prop, and mixture cables over the bottom bar of the
engine mount, like shown on the FF plans. Seems like not a lot of room
in there and potential for rubbing. Did other folks do the same, or let
the cables go under the bottom bar of the engine mount?
Thanks,
TDT
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| Subject: | Fast Stack Wiring Harness |
Hi
As I look through the brochures I picked up at KOSH, I keep coming back to
one from Approach Avionics. They make a wiring harness / hub system that on
the surface seems like it would simplify wiring of just about any panel
configuration.
Does anyone have any experience with this system? Any comments positive /
negative welcome. I want to wire my own panel but at this point it seems
like a dark art to me (then again so was riveting a year ago).
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643
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| Subject: | Fast Stack Wiring Harness |
Les,
I believe my business partner used them to rewire /
interconnect avionics in our D-35 Bonanza (1953). From what I recall it
was plug N play and all went well. He was very impressed and could not
think of a better way to integrate a Garmin stack into a 50 year old
airplane.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fast Stack Wiring Harness
Hi
As I look through the brochures I picked up at KOSH, I keep coming back
to one from Approach Avionics. They make a wiring harness / hub system
that on the surface seems like it would simplify wiring of just about
any panel configuration.
Does anyone have any experience with this system? Any comments positive
/ negative welcome. I want to wire my own panel but at this point it
seems like a dark art to me (then again so was riveting a year ago).
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643
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| Subject: | Fast Stack Wiring Harness |
Hi Robin
Thanks for the info. Their website says they are OEM for an a/c
manufacturer. I plan to call them tomorrow to find out who uses them. All in
all, it seems like a better way to go versus hand wiring if:
* The harnesses are of a high quality
* They are reliable and will be around to support their product
* The hub will withstand the temperature extremes of a G/A aircraft in
Canada
* It will support whatever avionics I decide to install (that is still
yet another question)
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: September-23-07 8:50 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fast Stack Wiring Harness
Les,
I believe my business partner used them to rewire /
interconnect avionics in our D-35 Bonanza (1953). From what I recall it was
plug N play and all went well. He was very impressed and could not think of
a better way to integrate a Garmin stack into a 50 year old airplane.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fast Stack Wiring Harness
Hi
As I look through the brochures I picked up at KOSH, I keep coming back to
one from Approach Avionics. They make a wiring harness / hub system that on
the surface seems like it would simplify wiring of just about any panel
configuration.
Does anyone have any experience with this system? Any comments positive /
negative welcome. I want to wire my own panel but at this point it seems
like a dark art to me (then again so was riveting a year ago).
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643
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