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1. 02:14 AM - Re: Vertical Stabiliser Mounted Whip Type VOR Antenna (Michael Wellenzohn)
2. 03:35 AM - Re: First Flight N921ACFirst Flight N921AC (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 03:36 AM - Re: First Flight N921ACFirst Flight N921AC (Wayne Edgerton)
4. 05:45 AM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Tim Olson)
5. 05:55 AM - Re: Call for data (used to be Re: Dan's H6Turbo numbers) (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
6. 06:12 AM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
7. 06:17 AM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Phillips, Jack)
8. 08:05 AM - Re: Call for data (used to be Re: Dan's H6Turbo numbers) (Ben Westfall)
9. 08:36 AM - Re: Call for data (used to be Re: Dan's H6Turbo numbers) (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
10. 08:43 AM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Deems Davis)
11. 09:10 AM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Alaska) (Robin Marks)
12. 09:11 AM - Re: Alaska 2008 was Aircraft Designator Code (Chris Johnston)
13. 10:17 AM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
14. 11:44 AM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Tim Olson)
15. 01:21 PM - Re: First Flight N921ACFirst Flight N921AC (Dave Saylor)
16. 01:22 PM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (ddddsp1@juno.com)
17. 05:05 PM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Marcus Cooper)
18. 05:36 PM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Jesse Saint)
19. 08:19 PM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Kelly McMullen)
20. 09:34 PM - Re: Call for data (used to be Re: Dan's H6Turbo numbers) (Kelly McMullen)
21. 10:07 PM - Re: Re: Vertical Stabiliser Mounted Whip Type VOR Antenna (Patrick Pulis)
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| Subject: | Re: Vertical Stabiliser Mounted Whip Type VOR Antenna |
Hi Pat,
I think Wayne Edgerton has this type of antenna.
check out is pictures
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=32993
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (fuselage)
#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139525#139525
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N921ACFirst Flight N921AC |
Congratulations Dave. I'm sure you still have your grin going. It's a
long pull getting there but worth it. I hope your fly off goes well.
Wayne Edgerto N602WT
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N921ACFirst Flight N921AC |
I saw on Van's site or in RVator, I can't remember which, that the
flying RV10's are over 100 now.
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Designator Code |
Well, that was the plan originally but it looks like the weather
up there will be cold, windy, and rainy...the same junk we
just lived through in WI a couple days ago. So we started
out with heading to GA and were then deciding between coming
up the coast and seeing NC/SC/W.VA, and then home, or going down
into FL. The kids I think won out so we're now on the run to sqeeze
in a day of Mickey Mouse and in-laws before we zip back home.
The RV-ten sorry, my keyboard is losing it's number keys... is
a great x/c machine that can get you a long way in a days flight,
but the problem is, if you leave home without a firm plan on where
to go, you can really get stuck in the "mulling it over" phase.
Sometimes it's tough to have choices. ;
I appreciate all the invites we get, and we'll probably take some
of them up sometime, but traveling with the kids usually means
their votes count more than my vote, so more often than not I'm
trying to zip on to the destination.
I think we'll have to give Maine another shot in the spring or fall.
If anyone has great suggestions for sights to see in any far eastern
states .... ones that kids would like, send them to me offline as
I really need to come up with some eastern vacation plans that aren't
just visiting beaches, or mom-n-pop museums. I need things that
kids really would find fun. we're going to spend some time trying to
hit all forty nine mainland states over the next few years, before they
get out of H.S.
Thanks for the invite!
Tim
do not archive
> Tim: Rumor has it that you will be in Maine this coming weekend. If
> that
> is true we would love to take you and yours for a lobstah' dinnah'. We
> are
> free all weekend. Could fly into either AUG or WVL. Home phone is 207
> 395
> 2842 and cell is 207 322 6167. Jay Rowe #40301 (working on the cowling).
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:55 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
>
>
> >
> > Weird that DUATS doesn't and DUAT does. I didn't have good luck
> > filing a couple times with Golden Eagle (DUATS), but today I filed
> > with Voyager (DUAT) and it took it right away and within an hour
> > I was in air picking up a clearance to Atlanta. I filed as RV10/G.
> > Pretty nice day. I flew LOP for a while at 9K, and then took a
> > brief stint at ROP. I gained an easy 10kts over my LOP flight
> > phase, but it sure changes the range....so a couple minutes I was
> > kicked back again in the low 160's with flows around 10gph.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
> >>
> >> DUATS still does not accept RV10, I had to use HXB when filing via
> DUATS
> >> on my way to 5T6 this past weekend.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank You
> >> Ray Doerr
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:24 PM
> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
> >>
> >>
> >> Yup..... RV10 ;)
> >>
> >> In the olden days, like last year, we had to use HXB, which
> >> is homebuilt experimental, with a B speed range. Now
> >> we can use RV10.
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Roger Standley wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone remember the RV-10 Aircraft Designator Code (for flight
> >> plan
> >>> form)?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> 10/11/2007 9:11 AM
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Dan's H6Turbo numbers) |
I would agree on the WOT and the plate blocking air flow, and this is
not only true on carb engines but also injected engines. The Subaru is
flown wide open throttle, IE we do not set power based on throttle,
rather we change the pitch of the blade to set RPM which in turn
controls the engine/throttle. During take off we watch boost pressure
for the turbo, but once established in a climb we use the prop and leave
the throttle wide open for no restrictions.
It will be very interesting to see the data start to come in for all of
the different 10's. I would think we need to develop a standard spread
sheet that we can publish, and just have each flyer fill in the blanks
for the data. This spreadsheet should be developed by the collective so
we can get what the majority wants to see and we can start graphing
differences between modifications and such.
Myself, I have started to look at designing a molded fairing for the
wing root, that will ease the transition there and attach to the root
gap fairing. I have always been interested in why some airliners have
them and some don't, and have been reading a bunch about them. But still
have no clue on how to determine what is needed to make one flow
correctly. I also have started fairings for flap hinges.
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Call for data (used to be RE: RV10-List: Dan's H6Turbo
numbers)
Hear Hear! You're right...we need more data! My own numbers are
just numbers I usually gather from trips, and I fly LOP almost
all the trips. I pay a price and today I saw that at that particular
temp/pressure/altitude I paid a price of about 10KTs for a huge
savings in fuel. My numbers will ALWAYS be slow in comparison to
most people's, because that's the way I cruise. I'd rather have
well over 1000nm range at 162-4 kts than 600-800 at 170-4 kts, so
I do what I do. I very rarely have the throttle all the way
forward, other than during climb. In fact, in cruise, one of
the first things do is pull back the throttle until I knock
about .2" of MAP off the WOT setting. I've heard in the past
especially with carb engines that the throttle plate can have
an effect on the mixture distribution, and it can be smoother
if you pull it back a little. I found this true on my old
plane, and it may be just psychological but it seems true
on this one. So I pull it back just a tad from WOT, and then
set the prop and mixture.
Anyway, as long as someone does 2 things, I'm happy to post numbers.
1 is you absolutely MUST have done a 4 way gps calibration so you
know how far off your TAS is from actual. 2 is that you try to
fill in most of the blanks. Given those 2 things, I think we
can have a really good performance representation for all.
Thanks for bringing it up Dan!
Tim
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> In my opinion there are way to many combinations on how each of us fly
> and operate the engines. The are so many variables on the Lycomings it
> is difficult to build a chart with every variation out there. Heck I
> would even argue that the same engine moved from one plane to the next
> will perform differently, that we can not define a definitive answer.
> What we can provide however is generalities to performance numbers,
will
> any one way we present the numbers meet everyone's perceived needs?
No,
> but what it will do is give something to compare to.
> With that being said Tim did us a great service in creating his
website
> and it has a page specifically for performance numbers, and while
> everyone talks about how important these comparisons are, only two
> people out of over 100 have chosen to provide that information. The
> information posted on the Eggenfellner site was taken from those two
> reports, and is preliminary at best. We have made several changes to
the
> engine since that data was posted, so it is already out of date and
will
> need to be changed, but conversely there is a much larger pool of
> Lycomings to pull the stat's from, but no one is taking the time to
fill
> out the data and have Tim post it.
> I for one will be traveling up to Tim's so we can fly the planes in
like
> conditions and we will post the data, but that still will only be one
> Lycoming compared to one Subaru, and that is not statistically
> significant, but if we all work together as a team and collect the
> required data we can only make it better for all of us that follow.
> There are enough RV10's flying that we should have a good baseline for
> comparison, and as soon as Jan ships this engine batch there will be
at
> least 10 more Subaru's quickly flying that we can start comparing to,
I
> also know of at least two rotary's and two V-8's in late construction
so
> we will have those numbers too.
> But until WE all take the time to gather the data we are all just
making
> conjecture. Lets collect the data and make it visible to all so they
can
> use it for comparison.
> Dan
> N289DT RV10E Flying
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray
R
> [NTK]
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:52 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Dan's H6Turbo numbers
>
> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
>
> Also the comparison was with the IO-540 in Lean of Peak
> operation.
>
> Thank You
> Ray Doerr
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:31 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dan's H6Turbo numbers
>
>
> Dan,
>
> Do you know if the IO-540 numbers they're posting are without fairings
> as well? They should really be 10-15 Ktas faster at 14K if they're
> with fairings, and that would be a cruise performance number, not a
> top speed.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
>> without gear leg fairings or intersection fairings and we all know it
> is
>> not painted....
>> Dan
>> N289DT RV10E flying higher and faster now that the turbo is installed
>>
>>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bobby J.
> Hughes
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:06 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Dan's H6Turbo numbers
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Those are some impressive numbers from your H6 turbo testing. Good
> fuel
>> burn and speed at altitude.
>>
>> Bobby
>> 40116
>
>
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator Code |
Speaking of all 49 Mainland states, the SOCAL guys and gals are planning
a trip for Alaska in early July next year. With that much lead time a
bunch of us 10 drivers should join in and go north together for a great
family trip. I talked with Trish and the kids and they are definitely up
for Alaska during the summer, what does everyone think? It is always
better/ more fun to fly in a gaggle and we have been checking out a
bunch of different sites on flying Alaska and there is some incredible
day trips to be had once you get there.
Thoughts? We could even start an annual RV10 builder/family fun trip?
Dan
N289DT RV10E
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
Well, that was the plan originally but it looks like the weather
up there will be cold, windy, and rainy...the same junk we
just lived through in WI a couple days ago. So we started
out with heading to GA and were then deciding between coming
up the coast and seeing NC/SC/W.VA, and then home, or going down
into FL. The kids I think won out so we're now on the run to sqeeze
in a day of Mickey Mouse and in-laws before we zip back home.
The RV-ten sorry, my keyboard is losing it's number keys... is
a great x/c machine that can get you a long way in a days flight,
but the problem is, if you leave home without a firm plan on where
to go, you can really get stuck in the "mulling it over" phase.
Sometimes it's tough to have choices. ;
I appreciate all the invites we get, and we'll probably take some
of them up sometime, but traveling with the kids usually means
their votes count more than my vote, so more often than not I'm
trying to zip on to the destination.
I think we'll have to give Maine another shot in the spring or fall.
If anyone has great suggestions for sights to see in any far eastern
states .... ones that kids would like, send them to me offline as
I really need to come up with some eastern vacation plans that aren't
just visiting beaches, or mom-n-pop museums. I need things that
kids really would find fun. we're going to spend some time trying to
hit all forty nine mainland states over the next few years, before they
get out of H.S.
Thanks for the invite!
Tim
do not archive
> Tim: Rumor has it that you will be in Maine this coming weekend.
If
> that
> is true we would love to take you and yours for a lobstah' dinnah'.
We
> are
> free all weekend. Could fly into either AUG or WVL. Home phone is
207
> 395
> 2842 and cell is 207 322 6167. Jay Rowe #40301 (working on the
cowling).
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:55 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
>
>
> >
> > Weird that DUATS doesn't and DUAT does. I didn't have good luck
> > filing a couple times with Golden Eagle (DUATS), but today I filed
> > with Voyager (DUAT) and it took it right away and within an hour
> > I was in air picking up a clearance to Atlanta. I filed as
RV10/G.
> > Pretty nice day. I flew LOP for a while at 9K, and then took a
> > brief stint at ROP. I gained an easy 10kts over my LOP flight
> > phase, but it sure changes the range....so a couple minutes I was
> > kicked back again in the low 160's with flows around 10gph.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
> >>
> >> DUATS still does not accept RV10, I had to use HXB when filing
via
> DUATS
> >> on my way to 5T6 this past weekend.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank You
> >> Ray Doerr
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Olson
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:24 PM
> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
> >>
> >>
> >> Yup..... RV10 ;)
> >>
> >> In the olden days, like last year, we had to use HXB, which
> >> is homebuilt experimental, with a B speed range. Now
> >> we can use RV10.
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Roger Standley wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone remember the RV-10 Aircraft Designator Code (for
flight
> >> plan
> >>> form)?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> 10/11/2007 9:11 AM
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator Code |
Tim, if your travel plans do end up including North Carolina, plan to
stop at FFA, First Flight Airport at Kill Devil Hills on the Outer
Banks. Land where the Wright Brothers first flew. You can walk from
the airport to the Wright Bros Memorial and the Museum there at the
National Park. Landing there should be on the "To Do" list of every
history-minded pilot.
If for any reason you are in the Raleigh area, let me know and I'll take
you to dinner and pick your brain for avionics ideas for my -10. Might
be able to get you up in my Pietenpol for a totally different kind of
flying (low and slow, open cockpit)
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
#40610
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
Well, that was the plan originally but it looks like the weather up
there will be cold, windy, and rainy...the same junk we just lived
through in WI a couple days ago. So we started out with heading to GA
and were then deciding between coming up the coast and seeing
NC/SC/W.VA, and then home, or going down into FL. The kids I think won
out so we're now on the run to sqeeze in a day of Mickey Mouse and
in-laws before we zip back home.
The RV-ten sorry, my keyboard is losing it's number keys... is
a great x/c machine that can get you a long way in a days flight, but
the problem is, if you leave home without a firm plan on where to go,
you can really get stuck in the "mulling it over" phase.
Sometimes it's tough to have choices. ;
I appreciate all the invites we get, and we'll probably take some of
them up sometime, but traveling with the kids usually means their votes
count more than my vote, so more often than not I'm trying to zip on to
the destination.
I think we'll have to give Maine another shot in the spring or fall.
If anyone has great suggestions for sights to see in any far eastern
states .... ones that kids would like, send them to me offline as I
really need to come up with some eastern vacation plans that aren't just
visiting beaches, or mom-n-pop museums. I need things that kids really
would find fun. we're going to spend some time trying to hit all forty
nine mainland states over the next few years, before they get out of
H.S.
Thanks for the invite!
Tim
do not archive
> Tim: Rumor has it that you will be in Maine this coming weekend.
> If that is true we would love to take you and yours for a lobstah'
> dinnah'. We are free all weekend. Could fly into either AUG or WVL.
> Home phone is 207
> 395
> 2842 and cell is 207 322 6167. Jay Rowe #40301 (working on the
cowling).
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:55 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
>
>
> >
> > Weird that DUATS doesn't and DUAT does. I didn't have good luck
> > filing a couple times with Golden Eagle (DUATS), but today I filed
> > with Voyager (DUAT) and it took it right away and within an hour
> > I was in air picking up a clearance to Atlanta. I filed as
RV10/G.
> > Pretty nice day. I flew LOP for a while at 9K, and then took a
> > brief stint at ROP. I gained an easy 10kts over my LOP flight
> > phase, but it sure changes the range....so a couple minutes I was
> > kicked back again in the low 160's with flows around 10gph.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
> >>
> >> DUATS still does not accept RV10, I had to use HXB when filing
> via DUATS
> >> on my way to 5T6 this past weekend.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank You
> >> Ray Doerr
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Olson
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:24 PM
> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
> >>
> >>
> >> Yup..... RV10 ;)
> >>
> >> In the olden days, like last year, we had to use HXB, which
> >> is homebuilt experimental, with a B speed range. Now
> >> we can use RV10.
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Roger Standley wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone remember the RV-10 Aircraft Designator Code (for
flight
> >> plan
> >>> form)?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> 10/11/2007 9:11 AM
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Dan's H6Turbo numbers) |
Dan,
I noticed something interesting on Van's personal RV-10 at the homecoming
this year in Independence, OR. He must have flown through some moisture on
the way cause there were some small water spots on the plane.
The fuselage had a distinct line of grime on it about 6 or 8 inches above
the wing root in the exact shape of the wing itself. This gives you a
pretty good indication of the way air flows in that area. I don't know
anything about aerodynamics to comment as to what it means but I thought you
might be interested in this.
Attached is a snippet from a picture I took of Van's plane with the faint
line on it.
-Ben
40579
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:55 AM
Subject: RE: Call for data (used to be RE: RV10-List: Dan's H6Turbo numbers)
I would agree on the WOT and the plate blocking air flow, and this is
not only true on carb engines but also injected engines. The Subaru is
flown wide open throttle, IE we do not set power based on throttle,
rather we change the pitch of the blade to set RPM which in turn
controls the engine/throttle. During take off we watch boost pressure
for the turbo, but once established in a climb we use the prop and leave
the throttle wide open for no restrictions.
It will be very interesting to see the data start to come in for all of
the different 10's. I would think we need to develop a standard spread
sheet that we can publish, and just have each flyer fill in the blanks
for the data. This spreadsheet should be developed by the collective so
we can get what the majority wants to see and we can start graphing
differences between modifications and such.
Myself, I have started to look at designing a molded fairing for the
wing root, that will ease the transition there and attach to the root
gap fairing. I have always been interested in why some airliners have
them and some don't, and have been reading a bunch about them. But still
have no clue on how to determine what is needed to make one flow
correctly. I also have started fairings for flap hinges.
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
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| Subject: | Dan's H6Turbo numbers) |
Nice catch this would be interesting to tuft these areas and see what is
going on with it.
THX for the pic
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: Call for data (used to be RE: RV10-List: Dan's H6Turbo
numbers)
Dan,
I noticed something interesting on Van's personal RV-10 at the
homecoming
this year in Independence, OR. He must have flown through some moisture
on
the way cause there were some small water spots on the plane.
The fuselage had a distinct line of grime on it about 6 or 8 inches
above
the wing root in the exact shape of the wing itself. This gives you a
pretty good indication of the way air flows in that area. I don't know
anything about aerodynamics to comment as to what it means but I thought
you
might be interested in this.
Attached is a snippet from a picture I took of Van's plane with the
faint
line on it.
-Ben
40579
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:55 AM
Subject: RE: Call for data (used to be RE: RV10-List: Dan's H6Turbo
numbers)
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I would agree on the WOT and the plate blocking air flow, and this is
not only true on carb engines but also injected engines. The Subaru is
flown wide open throttle, IE we do not set power based on throttle,
rather we change the pitch of the blade to set RPM which in turn
controls the engine/throttle. During take off we watch boost pressure
for the turbo, but once established in a climb we use the prop and leave
the throttle wide open for no restrictions.
It will be very interesting to see the data start to come in for all of
the different 10's. I would think we need to develop a standard spread
sheet that we can publish, and just have each flyer fill in the blanks
for the data. This spreadsheet should be developed by the collective so
we can get what the majority wants to see and we can start graphing
differences between modifications and such.
Myself, I have started to look at designing a molded fairing for the
wing root, that will ease the transition there and attach to the root
gap fairing. I have always been interested in why some airliners have
them and some don't, and have been reading a bunch about them. But still
have no clue on how to determine what is needed to make one flow
correctly. I also have started fairings for flap hinges.
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Designator Code |
Alaska! That's always been on my 'places to fly' list (August is
usually the better weather month) count me in, assuming I actually
complete this thing before then !! :-\
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
>
> Speaking of all 49 Mainland states, the SOCAL guys and gals are planning
> a trip for Alaska in early July next year.
>
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator Code (Alaska) |
Please count me in for Alaska too! It's also on my list and sounds like
the type of trip to take with some experienced international pilots. If
my -10 isn't ready by then I'll take the 6A, or the Turbo Lance II or
the Bonanza, or the Cessna 150... Ok, maybe not the 150...
Robin
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| Subject: | Alaska 2008 was Aircraft Designator Code |
Serendipity... my parents are planning a summer 2008 Alaska trip and
asked me if I'd like to join up. If I'm flying by then, I'm down to go!
maybe gives me something to shoot fer...
cj
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
Alaska! That's always been on my 'places to fly' list (August is
usually the better weather month) count me in, assuming I actually
complete this thing before then !! :-\
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> Speaking of all 49 Mainland states, the SOCAL guys and gals are
planning
> a trip for Alaska in early July next year.
>
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator Code |
I sent Duats an Email and they said they have now added the
RV10.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
Mr.Doerr,
Your request to add aircraft type RV10 (Van's) is now available.
Thank you
Robert O. Street
CSC Duats
Asst Database Manager
Chantilly, Va 20151
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
<Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
DUATS still does not accept RV10, I had to use HXB when filing via DUATS
on my way to 5T6 this past weekend.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
Yup..... RV10 ;)
In the olden days, like last year, we had to use HXB, which
is homebuilt experimental, with a B speed range. Now
we can use RV10.
Tim
Roger Standley wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember the RV-10 Aircraft Designator Code (for flight
plan
> form)?
>
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator Code |
Way to take the bull by the horns Ray! Thanks!
Tim
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> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
>
> I sent Duats an Email and they said they have now added the
> RV10.
>
> Thank You
> Ray Doerr
>
>
> Mr.Doerr,
>
> Your request to add aircraft type RV10 (Van's) is now available.
>
> Thank you
>
> Robert O. Street
>
> CSC Duats
>
> Asst Database Manager
>
> Chantilly, Va 20151
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
> [NTK]
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:25 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
>
> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
>
> DUATS still does not accept RV10, I had to use HXB when filing via DUATS
> on my way to 5T6 this past weekend.
>
>
> Thank You
> Ray Doerr
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:24 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
>
>
> Yup..... RV10 ;)
>
> In the olden days, like last year, we had to use HXB, which
> is homebuilt experimental, with a B speed range. Now
> we can use RV10.
> Tim
>
>
> Roger Standley wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone remember the RV-10 Aircraft Designator Code (for flight
> plan
>> form)?
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | First Flight N921ACFirst Flight N921AC |
I think we were number 106 per Van's first flight page.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight N921ACFirst Flight N921AC
I saw on Van's site or in RVator, I can't remember which, that the flying
RV10's are over 100 now.
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Designator Code |
Deems,
How is this for a plan.................Fly to Osh 08.........then to Ala
ska............return to Portland in time for Van's Homecoming..........
..then a short flight HOME. Bet we could get a few to bite on that j
ourney!
Dean 805HL
110.4 hours
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator Code |
Great work Ray. I was taking the route through Vans for some reason
thinking it was a FAA thing and got nowhere. Thanks for your effort.
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
<Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
I sent Duats an Email and they said they have now added the
RV10.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
Mr.Doerr,
Your request to add aircraft type RV10 (Van's) is now available.
Thank you
Robert O. Street
CSC Duats
Asst Database Manager
Chantilly, Va 20151
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
<Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
DUATS still does not accept RV10, I had to use HXB when filing via DUATS
on my way to 5T6 this past weekend.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
Yup..... RV10 ;)
In the olden days, like last year, we had to use HXB, which
is homebuilt experimental, with a B speed range. Now
we can use RV10.
Tim
Roger Standley wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember the RV-10 Aircraft Designator Code (for flight
plan
> form)?
>
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator Code |
OK, you're killing me now. I have to talk my dad into going, and 3 other
planes to fit my wife and kids too.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: ddddsp1@juno.com [mailto:ddddsp1@juno.com]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
Deems,
How is this for a plan.................Fly to Osh 08.........then to
Alaska............return to Portland in time for Van's
Homecoming............then a short flight HOME. Bet we could get a few
to bite on that journey!
Dean 805HL
110.4 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Designator Code |
IMHO, having learned to fly in Fairbanks, and spending 22 years there
accumulating ~800 flying hours, August is not the best month to go. Usually
rainier than average. August is duck hunting season, with low fog in river
areas common. June and Sept are the drier months, Sept. has much less
mosquitos competing for the airspace. July and Aug are peak tourist months,
highest prices and competition for motel rooms. Keep an eye on forest fire
predictions as well, as that can cause IFR conditions as much as clouds.
However, whenever you go, keep in mind that typical visibility under
whatever ceiling exists will be 40-80 miles, except under fire smoke
conditions. So low level flying following roads or rivers is safer than
elsewhere, as long as power lines and the rare radio towers are avoided.
Figure last frost around Memorial Day...snow drifts in mountainous areas
well into June. 1st frost and or snow can arrive mid-Sept. Weather along the
Alaska Highway definitely turns nasty by early-mid Oct.
On 10/12/07, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> Alaska! That's always been on my 'places to fly' list (August is
> usually the better weather month) count me in, assuming I actually
> complete this thing before then !! :-\
>
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
> Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> LloydDR@wernerco.com>
> >
> > Speaking of all 49 Mainland states, the SOCAL guys and gals are planning
> > a trip for Alaska in early July next year.
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dan's H6Turbo numbers) |
Actually, at least for Bendix fuel injected engines, and probably TCM
injection as well, WOT will give you just as good mixing and power, if
not better than throttle back a bit. Reason is that carburetors have a
power enrichment circuit to get a rich enough full power mixture. FI
engines don't need that as they match mixture to airflow very well. Also
fuel is inserted at intake port rather than before the throttle. So
retarding throttle to get out of the enrichment circuit helps mixture
distribution on carbed engines.
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
>
> I would agree on the WOT and the plate blocking air flow, and this is
> not only true on carb engines but also injected engines. The Subaru is
> flown wide open throttle, IE we do not set power based on throttle,
> rather we change the pitch of the blade to set RPM which in turn
> controls the engine/throttle. During take off we watch boost pressure
> for the turbo, but once established in a climb we use the prop and leave
> the throttle wide open for no restrictions.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Vertical Stabiliser Mounted Whip Type VOR Antenna |
Thanks for that - well done that man.
Regards
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wellenzohn [mailto:rv-10@wellenzohn.net]
Sent: Friday, 12 October 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Vertical Stabiliser Mounted Whip Type VOR
Antenna
--> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Hi Pat,
I think Wayne Edgerton has this type of antenna.
check out is pictures
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=32993
Michael
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