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1. 12:23 AM - Rudder trim input needed (plevenda@jvlv.lv)
2. 06:12 AM - Re: Aircraft Designator CodeAircraft Designator Code (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 07:19 AM - Re: Rudder trim input needed (dherring10)
4. 07:34 AM - Re: Rudder trim input needed (Rene)
5. 07:46 AM - Re: Alaska (Kelly McMullen)
6. 07:48 AM - Re: Aircraft Designator CodeAircraft Designator Code ()
7. 07:52 AM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Jesse Saint)
8. 08:47 AM - Re: Rudder trim input needed (plevenda@jvlv.lv)
9. 09:04 AM - Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? (Michael Wellenzohn)
10. 09:39 AM - Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
11. 09:59 AM - Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? (Deems Davis)
12. 10:02 AM - Re: Rudder trim input needed (Jesse Saint)
13. 10:23 AM - Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? (Michael Wellenzohn)
14. 10:35 AM - Re: Antenna Selection & Location (Pascal)
15. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? (Deems Davis)
16. 11:36 AM - Gathering suggestions/input for an Alaska Trip summer '08 (Deems Davis)
17. 11:47 AM - Re: Re: Rudder trim input needed (John Cram)
18. 01:04 PM - Question re. Electronic/Digital engine gages (Deems Davis)
19. 01:44 PM - Re: Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? (Robin Marks)
20. 01:52 PM - Re: Gathering suggestions/input for an Alaska Trip summer '08 (darnpilot@aol.com)
21. 02:29 PM - Re: Question re. Electronic/Digital engine gages (linn Walters)
22. 03:11 PM - Re: Question re. Electronic/Digital engine gages (Marcus Cooper)
23. 06:04 PM - Re: Nutplate Corrosion - To Prime or Not To Prime? (johngoodman)
24. 06:52 PM - Re: Aircraft Designator CodeAircraft Designator Code (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
25. 06:54 PM - Re: Gathering suggestions/input for an Alaska Trip summer '08 (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
26. 08:42 PM - Re: Aircraft Designator Code (Tim Olson)
27. 09:08 PM - Re: Re: Rudder trim input needed (Les Kearney)
28. 10:20 PM - Re: Re: Nutplate Corrosion - To Prime or Not To Prime? (John W. Cox)
29. 10:39 PM - Re: Rudder trim input needed (Bill Reining)
30. 11:32 PM - Re: Re: Rudder trim input needed (Rick Sked)
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| Subject: | Rudder trim input needed |
Hey fellow builders and flyers. My name is Paul Levenda and I'm a new builder in
AZ. I first of all want to thank all you who have been contributing to this
forum. I had several months to just browse the forum before building, and my head
is swimming in all the great information given by those of you who have blazed
a great trail for us young ones following behind.
My question has to do with the much talked about rudder trim. I have seen Vic's,
and I've seen the other comments on the forum, but I have talked with an A&P
buddy about installing a rudder trim simular to a regular electric trim tab you
see mostly on twins. I am at a stage where my rudder is still in two halves
so I want to look at this possiblilty now. I'm thinking I could cut and build
a trim tab between two sets of stiffeners and then install the Ray Allen servo
as Vic did. I do not want do any thing drastic until I have my A&P friend come
look at my plan, but I wanted to see what thoughts the Matronics group might
have as well.
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Paul Levenda
#40090
N974LV
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Designator CodeAircraft Designator Code |
Hello Dan,
I am planning on flying to Alaska next summer and had originally planned
on making the trip on my own but saw a group that organizes guided
flying trips through Alaska and decided to sign up for that. I figured
I'll get to see a little more of the country side with a lot less work
for me with an experienced guide leading the pack.
Their web site is www.letsflyalaska.com
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trim input needed |
Paul,
I installed one just like Vic did but when I was at Sun-n-Fun this year I saw the
one Jesse Saint used on one of his planes. I liked it a little better because
it was smaller and installed lower on the rudder below the elevator. Maybe
Jesse will post some pictures for you if you ask him.
I do know if you are going to install one it will be much easier to do it before
you put the rudder together.
Dwayne Herring
40506
QB fuse (about to start the fiberglass work, Yuk!)
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| Subject: | Rudder trim input needed |
Look at this ref, but I stole Vic's idea, will let you know how it works
once I am flying.....
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90306#90306
Rene'
40322
N423CF
Finish......ing
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of plevenda@jvlv.lv
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:22 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder trim input needed
Hey fellow builders and flyers. My name is Paul Levenda and I'm a new
builder in AZ. I first of all want to thank all you who have been
contributing to this forum. I had several months to just browse the forum
before building, and my head is swimming in all the great information given
by those of you who have blazed a great trail for us young ones following
behind.
My question has to do with the much talked about rudder trim. I have seen
Vic's, and I've seen the other comments on the forum, but I have talked with
an A&P buddy about installing a rudder trim simular to a regular electric
trim tab you see mostly on twins. I am at a stage where my rudder is still
in two halves so I want to look at this possiblilty now. I'm thinking I
could cut and build a trim tab between two sets of stiffeners and then
install the Ray Allen servo as Vic did. I do not want do any thing drastic
until I have my A&P friend come look at my plan, but I wanted to see what
thoughts the Matronics group might have as well.
--------
Paul Levenda
#40090
N974LV
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139699#139699
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You may find your self wondering how good a value you got when you see
how easy flying to Alaska is along the Alaska Highway.
If you like having the details handled by someone else and traveling in
a group, it may be fine. Just remember that the Highway was built to
ferry planes to the Russian front, going to Fairbanks and then handed
off to the Russians. Many of the planes with short range, flown by
WASPs, bless them. So landing spots are frequent, most are paved these
days, there are both low freq NDB airways and victor airways. Highest
elevation on the road is 4500 ft. Weather reporting is the weak link, so
you have to use your own judgment and be willing to turn around, or go
up on top IFR. Yes there are high mountains relatively close to the
route, but really not a factor if you follow the road.
Wayne Edgerton wrote:
> Hello Dan,
>
> I am planning on flying to Alaska next summer and had originally
> planned on making the trip on my own but saw a group that organizes
> guided flying trips through Alaska and decided to sign up for that. I
> figured I'll get to see a little more of the country side with a lot
> less work for me with an experienced guide leading the pack.
>
> Their web site is www.letsflyalaska.com <http://www.letsflyalaska.com/>
> Wayne Edgerton N602WT
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator CodeAircraft Designator Code |
Hello All
I flew my Arrow to Alaska a few years back. My route from Chicago was
Winnepeg - Edmunton - Ft. St. John - Watson Lake - Northway - Fairbanks -
Anchorage - Ketchikan - Vancouver - Chicago. We did lots of side trips,
flying out of Fairbanks and Anchorage. We went in late June, and got back
early July...a total of 65 hours of flying time, and only about 4 hours of
IFR. What a great trip. Getting around was easy; no GPS, just loran which
ended at the Canadian border; in the mountains, we just followed tha
Alaskan Highway. Every airport has a campground attached except Anchorage.
I think I can contribute lots of good tips to anyone interested...especially
the side trips, so whomever is interested, can contact me off line.
Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
RV-10 40486 Slow-build Eggenfellner E-6T
Naperville, Illinois
Finishing kit
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator CodeAircraft Designator Code
Hello Dan,
I am planning on flying to Alaska next summer and had originally planned on
making the trip on my own but saw a group that organizes guided flying trips
through Alaska and decided to sign up for that. I figured I'll get to see a
little more of the country side with a lot less work for me with an
experienced guide leading the pack.
Their web site is <http://www.letsflyalaska.com/> www.letsflyalaska.com
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator Code |
Cold, windy and rainy...Tim, I thought that was the type of weather that
made you WANT to go flying. I do understand the Disney and In-laws thing,
of course. I would offer to take you out to dinner myself, but I don't
think you are coming quite this far south. Normally it's X35, but right now
it's SESM (any takers out there?).
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
Well, that was the plan originally but it looks like the weather
up there will be cold, windy, and rainy...the same junk we
just lived through in WI a couple days ago. So we started
out with heading to GA and were then deciding between coming
up the coast and seeing NC/SC/W.VA, and then home, or going down
into FL. The kids I think won out so we're now on the run to sqeeze
in a day of Mickey Mouse and in-laws before we zip back home.
The RV-ten sorry, my keyboard is losing it's number keys... is
a great x/c machine that can get you a long way in a days flight,
but the problem is, if you leave home without a firm plan on where
to go, you can really get stuck in the "mulling it over" phase.
Sometimes it's tough to have choices. ;
I appreciate all the invites we get, and we'll probably take some
of them up sometime, but traveling with the kids usually means
their votes count more than my vote, so more often than not I'm
trying to zip on to the destination.
I think we'll have to give Maine another shot in the spring or fall.
If anyone has great suggestions for sights to see in any far eastern
states .... ones that kids would like, send them to me offline as
I really need to come up with some eastern vacation plans that aren't
just visiting beaches, or mom-n-pop museums. I need things that
kids really would find fun. we're going to spend some time trying to
hit all forty nine mainland states over the next few years, before they
get out of H.S.
Thanks for the invite!
Tim
do not archive
> Tim: Rumor has it that you will be in Maine this coming weekend. If
> that
> is true we would love to take you and yours for a lobstah' dinnah'. We
> are
> free all weekend. Could fly into either AUG or WVL. Home phone is 207
> 395
> 2842 and cell is 207 322 6167. Jay Rowe #40301 (working on the cowling).
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:55 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
>
>
> >
> > Weird that DUATS doesn't and DUAT does. I didn't have good luck
> > filing a couple times with Golden Eagle (DUATS), but today I filed
> > with Voyager (DUAT) and it took it right away and within an hour
> > I was in air picking up a clearance to Atlanta. I filed as RV10/G.
> > Pretty nice day. I flew LOP for a while at 9K, and then took a
> > brief stint at ROP. I gained an easy 10kts over my LOP flight
> > phase, but it sure changes the range....so a couple minutes I was
> > kicked back again in the low 160's with flows around 10gph.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
> >>
> >> DUATS still does not accept RV10, I had to use HXB when filing via
> DUATS
> >> on my way to 5T6 this past weekend.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank You
> >> Ray Doerr
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:24 PM
> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
> >>
> >>
> >> Yup..... RV10 ;)
> >>
> >> In the olden days, like last year, we had to use HXB, which
> >> is homebuilt experimental, with a B speed range. Now
> >> we can use RV10.
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Roger Standley wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone remember the RV-10 Aircraft Designator Code (for flight
> >> plan
> >>> form)?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> 10/11/2007 9:11 AM
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trim input needed |
Thanks for the input. I have viewed a few threads on rudder trim before, but after
doing a search on "Aerotrim", I have found that there has been a lot more
talk on adjustable rudder trim that I missed in the past. Again, a lot of good
information, thanks.
--------
Paul Levenda
#40090
N974LV
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| Subject: | Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? |
Hi,
I want to use the Andair Gascolator (GAS375) and wonder if the Vans fuel filter
is still required.
How many times do you need to have access to the tunnel? If I want to go with a
center console the access will be rather difficult.
Best regards
Michael
www.wellenzohn.net
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RV-10 builder (fuselage)
#511
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| Subject: | Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? |
My opinion.
YES. Keep the filter (I have gascolator also....).
Make whatever you do on the tunnel easy to remove.....you'll be in there
more than you think.
grumpy
N184JM Down for Paint
DO NOT ARCHIVE
In a message dated 10/13/2007 11:06:18 A.M. Central Standard Time,
rv-10@wellenzohn.net writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Hi,
I want to use the Andair Gascolator (GAS375) and wonder if the Vans fuel
filter is still required.
How many times do you need to have access to the tunnel? If I want to go
with a center console the access will be rather difficult.
Best regards
Michael
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? |
Micheal, I have a center console as well. I think Scott Schmidt was the
1st to post his solution. (i.e a side tunnel access panel ). Most I've
seen have put them on the copilot side. I had to put mine on the pilot
side due to interference with a fuel return line.
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20The%20Home%20Stretch/slides/DSC05413.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%20The%20Home%20Stretch/slides/DSC05414.html
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I want to use the Andair Gascolator (GAS375) and wonder if the Vans fuel filter
is still required.
>
> How many times do you need to have access to the tunnel? If I want to go with
a center console the access will be rather difficult.
>
> Best regards
> Michael
>
> www.wellenzohn.net
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (fuselage)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139757#139757
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Rudder trim input needed |
We are working on a system exactly like this. Let me know if you come up
with something and I'll do the same.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: plevenda@jvlv.lv [mailto:paulevenda@mac.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 2:22 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder trim input needed
Hey fellow builders and flyers. My name is Paul Levenda and I'm a new
builder in AZ. I first of all want to thank all you who have been
contributing to this forum. I had several months to just browse the forum
before building, and my head is swimming in all the great information given
by those of you who have blazed a great trail for us young ones following
behind.
My question has to do with the much talked about rudder trim. I have seen
Vic's, and I've seen the other comments on the forum, but I have talked with
an A&P buddy about installing a rudder trim simular to a regular electric
trim tab you see mostly on twins. I am at a stage where my rudder is still
in two halves so I want to look at this possiblilty now. I'm thinking I
could cut and build a trim tab between two sets of stiffeners and then
install the Ray Allen servo as Vic did. I do not want do any thing drastic
until I have my A&P friend come look at my plan, but I wanted to see what
thoughts the Matronics group might have as well.
--------
Paul Levenda
#40090
N974LV
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139699#139699
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| Subject: | Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? |
Does the tunnel have no structural role at all?
Cutting access holes will not make it stronger. And I believe I'd have to show
this a major modification from the original plans to the authorities.
Michael
--------
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: Antenna Selection & Location |
"We are about to release a smart dimmer module that will enable the
AF-3500 EFIS to control external lighting circuits from the EFIS"
being I am one of those getting the dual 3500 please keep us informed on
any updates you make.
Thanks!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: RobHickman@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antenna Selection & Location
I just received my Garmin 430W and the GA-35 is included with it.
This is perfect timing, I was just getting ready to install all the
antenna's and you have exactly what I do.
I attached the latest panel drawing. It is being laser cut and I
should have it later this week. The only change I am going to make is
that I no longer need the three dimmer knobs. We are about to release a
smart dimmer module that will enable the AF-3500 EFIS to control
external lighting circuits from the EFIS.
Rob Hickman Advanced Flight Systems
N401RH RV-4 (500+ hours)
N402RH RV-10 Mounting Antenna's and trying to get the doors to fit.
<HR style="M>
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| Subject: | Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? |
I'm sure there is some structural property to the tunnel, however the
sides are unsupported/reinforced, with the doubler installed and the
nutplates & screws holding the dimpled cover in place, Im my not so
humble and non-engineered opinion it is as strong or stronger than the
original. I recall a previous post where someone contacted Van's about
the structural properties of the tunnel. IIRC the response was that it
wasn't much.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
>
> Does the tunnel have no structural role at all?
>
> Cutting access holes will not make it stronger. And I believe I'd have to show
this a major modification from the original plans to the authorities.
>
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (fuselage)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139770#139770
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| Subject: | Gathering suggestions/input for an Alaska Trip summer '08 |
Dean, That's got some potential:
Let's see how practical planning a trip like this is.
A. Going as a large group would be a Ton of fun!
B. The larger the group the more difficult to organize (dates, duration,
route, etc.)
For starters how about if we begin a poll with these three questions
1. Who's interested ? (scale 1-3 , 1= somewhat, 2= sounds like a good
idea if I can arrange my schedule; 3=I'll do what ever necessary to make
the trip
2. Length of trip : ( # of day's in Alaska) ?
3. Dates: (1st arrival day in Alaska) ?
This is only a place to start, depending on the interest and response we
can modify.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
ddddsp1@juno.com wrote:
>
> Deems,
>
> How is this for a plan.................Fly to Osh 08.........then to
> Alaska............return to Portland in time for Van's
> Homecoming............then a short flight HOME. Bet we could get a
> few to bite on that journey!
>
> Dean 805HL
>
> 110.4 hours
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trim input needed |
So Paul you and kit # 90? If you are new maybe 40790?
John Cram
40569
----- Original Message -----
From: plevenda@jvlv.lv<mailto:plevenda@jvlv.lv>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:46 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rudder trim input needed
"plevenda@jvlv.lv<mailto:plevenda@jvlv.lv>"
<paulevenda@mac.com<mailto:paulevenda@mac.com>>
Thanks for the input. I have viewed a few threads on rudder trim
before, but after doing a search on "Aerotrim", I have found that there
has been a lot more talk on adjustable rudder trim that I missed in the
past. Again, a lot of good information, thanks.
--------
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#40090
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| Subject: | Question re. Electronic/Digital engine gages |
While doing transition training, the plane we flew was equipped with a
digital EMS. There was a pretty significant delay between the actual
throttle and prop changes made with the controls and the recording and
display of the results on the digital/graphic MP and RPM gages. By
'significant' I mean enough so that If you were attempting to use the
gages in real time to go from full throttle /RPM to cruise settings I
would consistently 'overshoot' the desired setting because of the 'lag'
in these instruments. For small adjustments the 'lag' was not as big an
issue. After 8.1 hours, I got a little better as estimating the
settings and then waiting for the gages to 'catch-up' but I still found
it annoying and distracting.
Mike S. said that ALL EFIS, EMS systems he has flown have the same issue
and it's one of the reasons he prefers steam gages. I'm not flying yet
so I don't know what I'll get with my OP's but I hadn't anticipated the
delay/lag that it looks like I'll probably have.
So for those of you flying, with the Cheltons , GRT's, AFS.
Inquiring minds want to know.
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| Subject: | Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using Andair gascolator? |
Michael,
We also cut an access panel on the PAX side of the tunnel. The
difference is our opening is MUCH larger than most. With my center
console, custom Andar fuel valve cup, throttle quadrant and ~6 push/pull
knobs in an assembly top access will be time consuming.
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Why to use Vans fuel filter when using
Andair gascolator?
I'm sure there is some structural property to the tunnel, however the
sides are unsupported/reinforced, with the doubler installed and the
nutplates & screws holding the dimpled cover in place, Im my not so
humble and non-engineered opinion it is as strong or stronger than the
original. I recall a previous post where someone contacted Van's about
the structural properties of the tunnel. IIRC the response was that it
wasn't much.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
<rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>
> Does the tunnel have no structural role at all?
>
> Cutting access holes will not make it stronger. And I believe I'd have
to show this a major modification from the original plans to the
authorities.
>
> Michael
>
> --------
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> #511
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Gathering suggestions/input for an Alaska Trip summer '08 |
I'd like to go...put me down as a "2".? Can I make the trip in a Glasair III??
Are most Alaska strips?considered rough fields?? Sounds like fun!
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 2:28 pm
Subject: RV10-List: Gathering suggestions/input for an Alaska Trip summer '08
?
Dean, That's got some potential: ?
Let's see how practical planning a trip like this is.?
?
A. Going as a large group would be a Ton of fun!?
B. The larger the group the more difficult to organize (dates, duration, route,
etc.)?
?
For starters how about if we begin a poll with these three questions?
?
1. Who's interested ? (scale 1-3 , 1= somewhat, 2= sounds like a good idea if I
can arrange my schedule; 3=I'll do what ever necessary to make the trip?
?
2. Length of trip : ( # of day's in Alaska) ??
?
3. Dates: (1st arrival day in Alaska) ??
?
This is only a place to start, depending on the interest and response we can modify.?
?
Deems Davis # 406?
'Its all done....Its just not put together'?
http://deemsrv10.com/?
?
?
ddddsp1@juno.com wrote:?
>?
> Deems,?
>?
> How is this for a plan.................Fly to Osh 08.........then to > Alaska............return
to Portland in time for Van's > Homecoming............then
a short flight HOME. Bet we could get a > few to bite on that journey!?
>?
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| Subject: | Re: Question re. Electronic/Digital engine gages |
I would guess that the problem is in the software driving the system.
Your GPS also has the info lag .... due to all the calculations that the
software has to make. It all takes time, and for the most part the
manufacturers aren't using the highest speed processors. Sigh ..... not
many software folks write in machine language anymore. Progress??? Not
in my book! :-)
Linn
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Deems Davis wrote:
>
> While doing transition training, the plane we flew was equipped with a
> digital EMS. There was a pretty significant delay between the actual
> throttle and prop changes made with the controls and the recording and
> display of the results on the digital/graphic MP and RPM gages. By
> 'significant' I mean enough so that If you were attempting to use the
> gages in real time to go from full throttle /RPM to cruise settings I
> would consistently 'overshoot' the desired setting because of the
> 'lag' in these instruments. For small adjustments the 'lag' was not as
> big an issue. After 8.1 hours, I got a little better as estimating
> the settings and then waiting for the gages to 'catch-up' but I still
> found it annoying and distracting.
> Mike S. said that ALL EFIS, EMS systems he has flown have the same
> issue and it's one of the reasons he prefers steam gages. I'm not
> flying yet so I don't know what I'll get with my OP's but I hadn't
> anticipated the delay/lag that it looks like I'll probably have.
>
> So for those of you flying, with the Cheltons , GRT's, AFS.
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
>
>
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| Subject: | Question re. Electronic/Digital engine gages |
In the 200 hours I have on my Grand Rapids EIS I haven't detected any
noticeable lag or delay.
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:03 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Question re. Electronic/Digital engine gages
While doing transition training, the plane we flew was equipped with a
digital EMS. There was a pretty significant delay between the actual
throttle and prop changes made with the controls and the recording and
display of the results on the digital/graphic MP and RPM gages. By
'significant' I mean enough so that If you were attempting to use the
gages in real time to go from full throttle /RPM to cruise settings I
would consistently 'overshoot' the desired setting because of the 'lag'
in these instruments. For small adjustments the 'lag' was not as big an
issue. After 8.1 hours, I got a little better as estimating the
settings and then waiting for the gages to 'catch-up' but I still found
it annoying and distracting.
Mike S. said that ALL EFIS, EMS systems he has flown have the same issue
and it's one of the reasons he prefers steam gages. I'm not flying yet
so I don't know what I'll get with my OP's but I hadn't anticipated the
delay/lag that it looks like I'll probably have.
So for those of you flying, with the Cheltons , GRT's, AFS.
Inquiring minds want to know.
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| Subject: | Re: Nutplate Corrosion - To Prime or Not To Prime? |
Patrick,
I would agree that the nutplates need something for long term corrosion protection.
I noticed someone mentioned Lithium Grease. I used to use Lithium Grease
on everything on my house on Kauai until I discovered (to my horror) that the
salt air was actually condensing on it and slowly embedding salt crystals into
it. I actually had well greased metal rusting underneath the grease. The crystals
had worked their way down to the metal.
Priming nutplates probably won't do much good, since the screws and other activity
around them will probably do a good job of removing it.
I would suggest Boeshield T-9. It's similar to ACF-50 but it has a waxy consistency.
There is a similar product that I'm pleased with for the regular market
called Bullfrog Rust Inhibitor. I've never looked into it but I wouldn't be surprised
if the Bullfrog product is simply Boeshield T-9.
On the threads, I agree with the others that they need to be clean of any lubricant
that might help them back off. Locktite works great.
John
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator CodeAircraft Designator Code |
Yeah I saw a bunch of sites that organize trips and I think it would be
great for a bunch of RV10 drivers to go together, then the SO_CAL RV
list stated to talk about going in July and they want as many RV flyers
as possible. I would recommend any of us that are wanting to go to join
the yahoo group for SO_CAL and piggy back with them. I think it would be
a great time to go and everyone I have talked with loves it.
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Edgerton
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:11 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator CodeAircraft
Designator Code
Hello Dan,
I am planning on flying to Alaska next summer and had originally
planned on making the trip on my own but saw a group that organizes
guided flying trips through Alaska and decided to sign up for that. I
figured I'll get to see a little more of the country side with a lot
less work for me with an experienced guide leading the pack.
Their web site is www.letsflyalaska.com
<http://www.letsflyalaska.com/>
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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| Subject: | Gathering suggestions/input for an Alaska Trip summer |
'08
I would be a 2-3 for a 2 week trip but unfortunately the earliest I could possibly
make it would be a Sept 09. Seriously doubt I'll be ready next year yet.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Gathering suggestions/input for an Alaska Trip summer '08
Dean, That's got some potential:
Let's see how practical planning a trip like this is.
A. Going as a large group would be a Ton of fun!
B. The larger the group the more difficult to organize (dates, duration,
route, etc.)
For starters how about if we begin a poll with these three questions
1. Who's interested ? (scale 1-3 , 1= somewhat, 2= sounds like a good
idea if I can arrange my schedule; 3=I'll do what ever necessary to make
the trip
2. Length of trip : ( # of day's in Alaska) ?
3. Dates: (1st arrival day in Alaska) ?
This is only a place to start, depending on the interest and response we
can modify.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
ddddsp1@juno.com wrote:
>
> Deems,
>
> How is this for a plan.................Fly to Osh 08.........then to
> Alaska............return to Portland in time for Van's
> Homecoming............then a short flight HOME. Bet we could get a
> few to bite on that journey!
>
> Dean 805HL
>
> 110.4 hours
>
>
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| Subject: | Aircraft Designator Code |
No no no....not all 3. I just like the cloudy and rainy stuff, but
not when it's cold or windy. I'm not a fan of ice, or turbulence
you can't climb away from.
Well, we had our day at 3 of the parks today, so tomorrow if we
can avoid that glob over iowa we should be home again.
Tim
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>
> Cold, windy and rainy...Tim, I thought that was the type of weather that
> made you WANT to go flying. I do understand the Disney and In-laws thing,
> of course. I would offer to take you out to dinner myself, but I don't
> think you are coming quite this far south. Normally it's X35, but right
> now
> it's SESM (any takers out there?).
>
> Do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:45 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
>
>
> Well, that was the plan originally but it looks like the weather
> up there will be cold, windy, and rainy...the same junk we
> just lived through in WI a couple days ago. So we started
> out with heading to GA and were then deciding between coming
> up the coast and seeing NC/SC/W.VA, and then home, or going down
> into FL. The kids I think won out so we're now on the run to sqeeze
> in a day of Mickey Mouse and in-laws before we zip back home.
> The RV-ten sorry, my keyboard is losing it's number keys... is
> a great x/c machine that can get you a long way in a days flight,
> but the problem is, if you leave home without a firm plan on where
> to go, you can really get stuck in the "mulling it over" phase.
> Sometimes it's tough to have choices. ;
>
> I appreciate all the invites we get, and we'll probably take some
> of them up sometime, but traveling with the kids usually means
> their votes count more than my vote, so more often than not I'm
> trying to zip on to the destination.
>
> I think we'll have to give Maine another shot in the spring or fall.
>
> If anyone has great suggestions for sights to see in any far eastern
> states .... ones that kids would like, send them to me offline as
> I really need to come up with some eastern vacation plans that aren't
> just visiting beaches, or mom-n-pop museums. I need things that
> kids really would find fun. we're going to spend some time trying to
> hit all forty nine mainland states over the next few years, before they
> get out of H.S.
>
> Thanks for the invite!
> Tim
> do not archive
>
>
>> Tim: Rumor has it that you will be in Maine this coming weekend. If
>> that
>> is true we would love to take you and yours for a lobstah' dinnah'. We
>> are
>> free all weekend. Could fly into either AUG or WVL. Home phone is 207
>> 395
>> 2842 and cell is 207 322 6167. Jay Rowe #40301 (working on the
>> cowling).
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:55 PM
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Weird that DUATS doesn't and DUAT does. I didn't have good luck
>> > filing a couple times with Golden Eagle (DUATS), but today I filed
>> > with Voyager (DUAT) and it took it right away and within an hour
>> > I was in air picking up a clearance to Atlanta. I filed as RV10/G.
>> > Pretty nice day. I flew LOP for a while at 9K, and then took a
>> > brief stint at ROP. I gained an easy 10kts over my LOP flight
>> > phase, but it sure changes the range....so a couple minutes I was
>> > kicked back again in the low 160's with flows around 10gph.
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> >> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
>> >>
>> >> DUATS still does not accept RV10, I had to use HXB when filing via
>> DUATS
>> >> on my way to 5T6 this past weekend.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thank You
>> >> Ray Doerr
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
>> Olson
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:24 PM
>> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Designator Code
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yup..... RV10 ;)
>> >>
>> >> In the olden days, like last year, we had to use HXB, which
>> >> is homebuilt experimental, with a B speed range. Now
>> >> we can use RV10.
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Roger Standley wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone remember the RV-10 Aircraft Designator Code (for
>> flight
>> >> plan
>> >>> form)?
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> 10/11/2007 9:11 AM
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trim input needed |
Paul
Below is a link to Tim Olson's site which has pictures of the rudder trim
system used by Vic Syracuse on his -10.
http://myrv10.com/tips/mods/RudderTrim/index.html
I have shamelessly stolen his design and used it on my -10 (which is still
in bits in my garage). The major difference between Vic's and mine is that I
have placed the servo lower on the rudder and made the trim tab a bit
smaller.
I will l know in about 18 months how well it works.
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of plevenda@jvlv.lv
Sent: October-13-07 9:46 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rudder trim input needed
Thanks for the input. I have viewed a few threads on rudder trim before, but
after doing a search on "Aerotrim", I have found that there has been a lot
more talk on adjustable rudder trim that I missed in the past. Again, a lot
of good information, thanks.
--------
Paul Levenda
#40090
N974LV
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| Subject: | Re: Nutplate Corrosion - To Prime or Not To Prime? |
Try soaking the screws after spraying them with LPS3 in a paper cup
before insertion into the nutplates.
John Cox
40600
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 6:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Nutplate Corrosion - To Prime or Not To Prime?
<johngoodman@earthlink.net>
Patrick,
I would agree that the nutplates need something for long term corrosion
protection. I noticed someone mentioned Lithium Grease. I used to use
Lithium Grease on everything on my house on Kauai until I discovered (to
my horror) that the salt air was actually condensing on it and slowly
embedding salt crystals into it. I actually had well greased metal
rusting underneath the grease. The crystals had worked their way down to
the metal.
Priming nutplates probably won't do much good, since the screws and
other activity around them will probably do a good job of removing it.
I would suggest Boeshield T-9. It's similar to ACF-50 but it has a waxy
consistency. There is a similar product that I'm pleased with for the
regular market called Bullfrog Rust Inhibitor. I've never looked into it
but I wouldn't be surprised if the Bullfrog product is simply Boeshield
T-9.
On the threads, I agree with the others that they need to be clean of
any lubricant that might help them back off. Locktite works great.
John
--------
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N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trim input needed |
Paul
I am also interested, but haven't done anything yet. I did take the attached pictures
of the Ray Allen display while at Oshkosh this summer. Hope they help.
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40514
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trim input needed |
Deems and I are working on a rudder trim system that will deploy a flush tab (similar
to airline speed brake) into the slip stream on each side of the rudder.
I have a rough sketch not worthy of posting yet but I'm sure we will keep the
list informed as it develops. One thing for sure, it will be a bunch easier
to so during assembly than after the fact but we are working on the after the
fact version. I already have the aircraft and panel wired for it, it's on the
back burner until I can get the canopy top final riveted. Look for for a good
drawing and some pics in about two weeks. It will use the Ray Allen servo. It
works on paper, just need to carefully start the layout and see where and how
to fit it. The plan is for the control to be tray mounted to allow access to the
servo and linkage and the actual control surfaces will be mounted using hinges,
nutplates and screws. The weight should be equivilent to Vic's setup. Of
course there will be a need to balance the rudder afterwards to make sure there
isn't a flutter issue with the extra weight built into the control surface.
Rick S.
40185
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From: "Bill Reining" <wreining@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:34:28 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rudder trim input needed
Paul
I am also interested, but haven't done anything yet. I did take the attached pictures
of the Ray Allen display while at Oshkosh this summer. Hope they help.
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