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1. 12:11 AM - Re: Baffling Question (Michael Wellenzohn)
2. 12:33 AM - Re: Re: Baffling Question (Werner Schneider)
3. 12:43 AM - Re: Baffling Question (Michael Wellenzohn)
4. 12:52 AM - Re: Re: Baffling Question (Chris and Susie McGough)
5. 05:31 AM - Re: Finish kit (johngoodman)
6. 05:58 AM - Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando) (johngoodman)
7. 06:37 AM - Re: Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando) (Tim Olson)
8. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando) (Jesse Saint)
9. 09:09 AM - Re: Re: Op Tech panel at Oshkosh (Mr Luther Strickland)
10. 09:19 AM - Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando) (dherring10)
11. 10:57 AM - Re: Re: Rudder trim input needed (MauleDriver)
12. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: Rudder trim input needed (Ralph E. Capen)
13. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando) (Tim Olson)
14. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: Op Tech panel at Oshkosh (Deems Davis)
15. 02:42 PM - Re: Re: Finish kit (Fred Williams, M.D.)
16. 10:42 PM - Re: Finish kit (AirMike)
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
Thanks Tim & Jesse,
I'll make it fit fat against the gasket.
Michael
BTW: does anyone have a picture of the Vetterman exhaust hanging?
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
Michael,
just make sure you hagd a silencer behind the Vetterman otherwise I'm
afraid you will not pass the ICAO chapter 10 noise test requiered for
Europe.
br Werner
Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
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> Thanks Tim & Jesse,
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> I'll make it fit fat against the gasket.
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> Michael
>
> BTW: does anyone have a picture of the Vetterman exhaust hanging?
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
Werner,
thats one of my big unknowns since there are no noise measurments arount. I talked
to Liese and they offer a system. But I don't have any data about noise emission.
Thanks for the advice!
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Baffling Question |
Michael I will take a pic of exhaust and send in the morning if that is not
to late?
My bafling is against the metal not the gasket also.
regards Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:42 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Baffling Question
> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
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> Werner,
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> thats one of my big unknowns since there are no noise measurments arount.
> I talked to Liese and they offer a system. But I don't have any data about
> noise emission.
>
> Thanks for the advice!
>
> Michael
>
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The canopy top comes with the QB Fuselage, as well.
John
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N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando) |
Tim,
Good data. By chance have you ever done any cruise numbers without wheel pants?
Since I know I want to take mine to some unimproved strips for some fly fishing,
I would probably be removing the pants.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando) |
As best I can remember it seems that the speeds went up about 12-15kts
when I added wheel and leg fairings. I don't think you can easily use
the leg fairings without some mods if you don't use wheel fairings, so
you may lose that much if you have to take them all off. From what I
understand though, you lose more on the legs than the wheels.
Thanks for the reminder on the cabin top coming with the fuse today.
I always forget that....since I got my fuse and finishing kit at the
same time.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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johngoodman wrote:
> <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
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> Tim, Good data. By chance have you ever done any cruise numbers
> without wheel pants? Since I know I want to take mine to some
> unimproved strips for some fly fishing, I would probably be removing
> the pants. John
>
> -------- #40572 QB Wings, QB Fuse arrived N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando) |
In our testing, you lose about 12-18kts by removing the wheel pants and gear
leg fairings. The higher number still had the brackets for the wheel pants
on, since they cause a lot of drag out there in the wind. This was not very
scientific testing, but those are the numbers that stick in my mind. Oh,
and I don't think we had the axle nut extenders in (if that's what you call
that thing that holds the main wheel pants on the outboard side).
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: johngoodman [mailto:johngoodman@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando)
Tim,
Good data. By chance have you ever done any cruise numbers without wheel
pants? Since I know I want to take mine to some unimproved strips for some
fly fishing, I would probably be removing the pants.
John
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N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Op Tech panel at Oshkosh |
All...
Per Deems request!!
...L. Jearl Strickland #214
--- Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
> <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>
> Don't be bashful Luther, post it here so we can all
> drool!
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
> Mr Luther Strickland wrote:
> Strickland <lljjss22@yahoo.com>
> >
> > I've also opted for OP technologies. I've been
> > working with Accuracy Avionics for about 8 months
> now.
> > The panel should be ready for me to pick up in
> the
> > next few weeks. If anyone is interested in a copy
> of
> > the drawings for the panel shoot me a note off
> line to
> > LJS2@pge.com.
> >
> > Jearl Strickland #214
> >
> > --- Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> <deemsdavis@cox.net>
> >>
> >> Patrick O'Neil has also ordered his OP Tech
> systems.
> >>
> >>
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando) |
Tim,
Another great, motivating, trip write-up. You need to keep them coming mainly to
help Lana realize why I am spending all that money!
Thanks,
Dwayne Herring
40506
Cabin top & doors (Yuck!)
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trim input needed |
Yes, a spring bias system. I've been thinking along the same lines for
several reasons - but haven't even attempted to sketch anything out yet.
I like the idea of not have an extra control surface whether a vane,
brake, or tab. A mechanical setup suggest simplicity but that is not
necessarily the case.
My Maule uses a spring with a T handle on the panel to adjust it. At
some point I'm going to get under the covers and look at that. It has
worked well for me.
The Vans rudder control design seems to present challenges for a bias
spring because of the lack of tension on the system. I'll be installing
that soon and will have a better sense of how that works.
Good dialog - Thanks.
Bill "went fly fishing off Montauk but anxious to get back to it" Watson
Durham #40605
William Curtis wrote:
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> And now for something completely different.
>
> My rudder trim will require absolutely NO modifications to the rudder. The Van's
aileron trim system uses a spring bias mechanism and I'm surprised no one
has considered using a similar system for the rudder trim. My Cardinal 177RG
uses a mechanical spring bias system and I intend to develop a similar fully
mechanical spring bias spring system for the RV-10.
>
> In the Cardinal, the mechanical trim wheel is turned moving an actuator that
applies (or removes) pressure to the rudder pedal assembly to effect rudder trim.
The same spring bias mechanism that is used for the aileron trim may be usable
for the rudder trim.
>
> William
> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trim input needed |
The RV6 manual aileron trim is a spring bias - I modified that design with the
same servo as the elevator trim and put it in the hole where the aileron bellcrank
hides.
I'm thinking of a similar system with a couple of cables going forward, pulleyed
up to a joining point for the springs with a pushrod from the servo to set the
spring bias.
My .02
Ralph Capen
-----Original Message-----
>From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
>Sent: Oct 18, 2007 1:53 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Rudder trim input needed
>
>
>Yes, a spring bias system. I've been thinking along the same lines for
>several reasons - but haven't even attempted to sketch anything out yet.
>
>I like the idea of not have an extra control surface whether a vane,
>brake, or tab. A mechanical setup suggest simplicity but that is not
>necessarily the case.
>
>My Maule uses a spring with a T handle on the panel to adjust it. At
>some point I'm going to get under the covers and look at that. It has
>worked well for me.
>
>The Vans rudder control design seems to present challenges for a bias
>spring because of the lack of tension on the system. I'll be installing
>that soon and will have a better sense of how that works.
>
>Good dialog - Thanks.
>Bill "went fly fishing off Montauk but anxious to get back to it" Watson
>Durham #40605
>
>William Curtis wrote:
>>
>> And now for something completely different.
>>
>> My rudder trim will require absolutely NO modifications to the rudder. The
Van's aileron trim system uses a spring bias mechanism and I'm surprised no one
has considered using a similar system for the rudder trim. My Cardinal 177RG
uses a mechanical spring bias system and I intend to develop a similar fully
mechanical spring bias spring system for the RV-10.
>>
>> In the Cardinal, the mechanical trim wheel is turned moving an actuator that
applies (or removes) pressure to the rudder pedal assembly to effect rudder trim.
The same spring bias mechanism that is used for the aileron trim may be
usable for the rudder trim.
>>
>> William
>> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Trip Write-up Complete (Atlanta/Orlando) |
Thanks everyone for all the on and offline comments. It was fun
to take the trip and it's fun to tell the story. I completely
know what Dwayne means, as keeping the wife and kids understanding
that it's some day going to not just be a pain-in-the-butt-garage-
space-waster can be tough. There are great rewards to be had for
those who finish their -10!
Next scheduled trips are Nellis, probably Florida again with
different activities, and then perhaps something else this winter.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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dherring10 wrote:
> <dherring10@suddenlink.net>
>
> Tim, Another great, motivating, trip write-up. You need to keep them
> coming mainly to help Lana realize why I am spending all that money!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dwayne Herring 40506 Cabin top & doors (Yuck!)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140634#140634
>
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| Subject: | Re: Op Tech panel at Oshkosh |
Swwweeeeeeeet!
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
do not arhive
Mr Luther Strickland wrote:
> All...
>
> Per Deems request!!
>
> ...L. Jearl Strickland #214
>
> --- Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>> <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>>
>> Don't be bashful Luther, post it here so we can all
>> drool!
>>
>> Deems Davis # 406
>> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>> Mr Luther Strickland wrote:
>>
>>>
>> Strickland <lljjss22@yahoo.com>
>>
>>> I've also opted for OP technologies. I've been
>>> working with Accuracy Avionics for about 8 months
>>>
>> now.
>>
>>> The panel should be ready for me to pick up in
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> next few weeks. If anyone is interested in a copy
>>>
>> of
>>
>>> the drawings for the panel shoot me a note off
>>>
>> line to
>>
>>> LJS2@pge.com.
>>>
>>> Jearl Strickland #214
>>>
>>> --- Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>>>>
>>>> Patrick O'Neil has also ordered his OP Tech
>>>>
>> systems.
>>
>>>>
>
> __________________________________________________
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Everybody, thanks for the replies. Web site listed the finish kit at 48
inches wide. The actual box was 49" Just fit inside wheel wells.
Saved hauling the trailer to Dallas and back (200 mi round trip).
Now I need to get all this stuff attached and free up some room in the
shop!.
Fred Williams
40515.
Is osh 08 a dream??
tAirMike wrote:
>
> I picked up mine in my Toyota Sequoia. It was very tight and the dog had to share
the front seats with my wife and I, but we did it without anything on the
roof rack. We could have strapped the motor mount up there if necessary. We packed
very carefully and mercifully it was not raining in Aurora. The big gorillas
are the seats, the motor mounts and the cowling. Everything else is manageable.
The new fashionable pink cowling is a bit flimsy for the roof rack and
was my big concern. But it all went inside. On a truck get good tarps to protect
from wind and rain
>
> We also got the FWF kit at the same time
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I set a goal when I started 10 months ago to fly to OSH 08. It looks like it is
getting harder to achieve. Engine coming in 60 days. Avionics seems to be the
real bitch of this whole project. Cabin top- doors and windows now
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