RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 10/19/07


Total Messages Posted: 24



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:28 AM - Ground Tabs (McGANN, Ron)
     2. 05:24 AM - Dynon Version 4.0 is now available to the public. (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
     3. 05:30 AM - Re: Ground Tabs (Albert Gardner)
     4. 05:52 AM - Re: Ground Tabs (Tim Olson)
     5. 06:03 AM - Re: Ground Tabs (Jesse Saint)
     6. 06:03 AM - Re: Re: Finish kit (gary)
     7. 06:26 AM - Re: Ground Tabs (Tim Olson)
     8. 07:11 AM - Starter Solonoid (gary)
     9. 07:38 AM - Re: Starter Solonoid (Tim Olson)
    10. 07:52 AM - Re: Starter Solonoid (Phillips, Jack)
    11. 08:03 AM - Re: Ground Tabs (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    12. 08:06 AM - Re: Starter Solonoid (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    13. 08:15 AM - Re: Ground Tabs (lessdragprod@aol.com)
    14. 09:11 AM - Muffler /Silencer (Michael Wellenzohn)
    15. 10:53 AM - Re: Starter Solonoid (linn Walters)
    16. 11:31 AM - Another new EFIS entry by the big guys... (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    17. 11:48 AM - Re: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys... (Tim Olson)
    18. 12:30 PM - Re: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys... (Rick Sked)
    19. 01:41 PM - Re: Starter Solonoid (gary)
    20. 03:07 PM - Re: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys... (Robin Marks)
    21. 04:32 PM - Re: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys... (Patrick ONeill)
    22. 05:50 PM - Re: Ground Tabs (Bill Schlatterer)
    23. 07:44 PM - Throttle cable lengths with throttle quad option (orchidman)
    24. 09:15 PM - For What It's Worth... (Jeff Carpenter)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:28:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Ground Tabs
    From: "McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
    G'day all, For those that have completed the engine install, how many ground tabs are typically required on the engine side of the firewall? I have a 24 tab blo ck on the cabin side and plan a smaller 10 tab block on the engine side - i s 10 enough? thanks in advance Ron 187 finishing "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer."


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    Time: 05:24:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Dynon Version 4.0 is now available to the public.
    From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
    Dynon Version 4.0 is now available to the public. Dynon and the Beta Testers just finished up with all the Beta and Release testing of this latest load. This version now includes full DSAB which mean you no longer need the Serial cable between two Dynon products to share information. So now any OAT connected to any unit can be used for %HP calculations and well and True Airspeed. Software should now be up on Dynon's Site. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 N519RV


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    Time: 05:30:02 AM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Ground Tabs
    I used only 1 tab on the engine side of the firewall. That one was for the oil pressure switch that connected the Hobbs meter to ground. Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ N991RV -----Original Message----- G'day all, For those that have completed the engine install, how many ground tabs are typically required on the engine side of the firewall? I have a 24 tab block on the cabin side and plan a smaller 10 tab block on the engine side - is 10 enough? thanks in advance Ron 187 finishing


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    Time: 05:52:33 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Ground Tabs
    Ron, For a Lyc install, 10 is even way more than you need for the smaller ground wires. You'll have almost nothing. You will, however, want to make sure you have a good engine and engine mount ground strap. Tim McGANN, Ron wrote: > G'day all, > > For those that have completed the engine install, how many ground tabs > are typically required on the engine side of the firewall? I have a 24 > tab block on the cabin side and plan a smaller 10 tab block on the > engine side - is 10 enough? > > > thanks in advance > Ron > 187 finishing > > "Warning: > The information contained in this email and any attached files is > confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended > recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any > attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email > in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been > taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, > however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the > sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus > checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to > your computer." > >


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    Time: 06:03:38 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Ground Tabs
    On the engine side I just have the one big ground from the engine to the airframe. I don't ground anything else on the front side. The 24 tab block should probably cover it on the cabin side. Do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: McGANN, Ron [mailto:ron.mcgann@baesystems.com] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:27 AM Subject: RV10-List: Ground Tabs G'day all, For those that have completed the engine install, how many ground tabs are typically required on the engine side of the firewall? I have a 24 tab block on the cabin side and plan a smaller 10 tab block on the engine side - is 10 enough? thanks in advance Ron 187 finishing "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer."


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    Time: 06:03:59 AM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Finish kit
    Forget the '08 or Bust, just enjoy building and it will get done when it gets done. Otherwise you will drive yourself and everyone around you nuts. It is a good plane and worth the wait. Gary 40274 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:42 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Finish kit I set a goal when I started 10 months ago to fly to OSH 08. It looks like it is getting harder to achieve. Engine coming in 60 days. Avionics seems to be the real bitch of this whole project. Cabin top- doors and windows now -------- OSH '08 or Bust Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140722#140722


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    Time: 06:26:25 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Ground Tabs
    On the inside of the cabin, it will depend greatly on how much you try to pull grounds back for all circuits to use the single-point ground to prevent ground issues. I filled up about 48 or more tabs on mine. I think the strip from B&C was about 5" long or so. It won't hurt to buy oversized on the ground tab block if you have room for it. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying Jesse Saint wrote: > On the engine side I just have the one big ground from the engine to the > airframe. I dont ground anything else on the front side. The 24 tab > block should probably cover it on the cabin side. > > > > > > Jesse Saint > > Saint Aviation, Inc. > > jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com> > > www.saintaviation.com <http://www.saintaviation.com> > > Cell: 352-427-0285 > > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* McGANN, Ron [mailto:ron.mcgann@baesystems.com] > *Sent:* Friday, October 19, 2007 6:27 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Ground Tabs > > > > G'day all, > > For those that have completed the engine install, how many ground tabs > are typically required on the engine side of the firewall? I have a 24 > tab block on the cabin side and plan a smaller 10 tab block on the > engine side - is 10 enough? > > > thanks in advance > Ron > 187 finishing >


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    Time: 07:11:15 AM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Starter Solonoid
    OK all you electrical gurus. I have two starter solonoids from Spruce that have the two big terminals on each side and two small terminals in the middle. Neither will activate when I apply 12V across the two small terminals. In checking resistance I get an open (infinity) between all of the terminals. I would expect a measured resistance between the two small terminals and an open between the large terminals until activated. Any suggestions, I thought I was a faulty unit but I bought these about two years apart and both act the same. Spruce has no info and gave me the manufacturer that made it, but they too don't have any info they import it and it has no wiring info with it. Gary 40274


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    Time: 07:38:08 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Starter Solonoid
    I think you may find that you'll have your resistance from a terminal to the case of the solenoid. You may want to peruse the Aeroelectric site a bit and perhaps the Van's wiring plans. It's been a while but I think one of those small terminal is basically just a switch closure that will be used for an indicator to show the contacts are closed. I don't think you'll want to put power to that one when it's closed or you may short something. Attached is a diagram that should help perhaps, depending on your solenoid. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying gary wrote: > > OK all you electrical gurus. I have two starter solonoids from Spruce that > have the two big terminals on each side and two small terminals in the > middle. Neither will activate when I apply 12V across the two small > terminals. In checking resistance I get an open (infinity) between all of > the terminals. I would expect a measured resistance between the two small > terminals and an open between the large terminals until activated. > > Any suggestions, I thought I was a faulty unit but I bought these about two > years apart and both act the same. Spruce has no info and gave me the > manufacturer that made it, but they too don't have any info they import it > and it has no wiring info with it. > > Gary > 40274 >


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    Time: 07:52:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Starter Solonoid
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com>
    Check out the Tony Bingelis book "Firewall Forward". It should have what you need. Or you can look at some of Tony's articles under Homebuilders Headquarters on the EAA website. Here is a link to an article with a schematic that looks like it will serve: http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/building/electrical/Developing% 20Your%20Electrical%20System%20Part%202.html#TopOfPage It shows the starter contactor with the 12 v line from the battery going to one of the big lugs, a heavy cable going from the other big lug to the starter, and the starter switch going to one of the little terminals. The other litle terminal should connect to your starter to operate the "Bendix". My understanding (which is highly open to question), is that the way the solenoid works, the starter switch connects the 12 v current to ground through the coil of the solenoid, energizing the electromagnet and activating the contactor. So to get the coil to activate, you need +12V connected to one of the big lugs, and GND connected to the little lug . At that time, you should see essentially zero resistance between the two big lugs. Since you've got two of them, give it a try. If you burn one up, you've still got a spare. Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC #40610 Tailcone complete - waiting on funding to proceed with QB kit -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: Starter Solonoid OK all you electrical gurus. I have two starter solonoids from Spruce that have the two big terminals on each side and two small terminals in the middle. Neither will activate when I apply 12V across the two small terminals. In checking resistance I get an open (infinity) between all of the terminals. I would expect a measured resistance between the two small terminals and an open between the large terminals until activated. Any suggestions, I thought I was a faulty unit but I bought these about two years apart and both act the same. Spruce has no info and gave me the manufacturer that made it, but they too don't have any info they import it and it has no wiring info with it. Gary 40274 _________________________________________________ or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese


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    Time: 08:03:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Ground Tabs
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    Ron, One more data point for you - I just looked and am using 5 tabs on the engine side of the FW and can't imagine using more. Here's the list: Oil Temp sensor, Fuel Pressure sensor, 2 hall effect current sensors (dual electrical bus and I'm monitoring total current draw from each alternator, and finally 1 for an old fashioned Oil Pressure switch like you'd use for a hobbs (drives an oil pressure light - I have my EIS remotely mounted and have all alerting via the EFIS so this is a backup). I'm using a GRT EIS if it makes a difference. Grounding sensors on the cabin side wouldn't be a big deal if you wanted to totally avoid the connections on the engine side - just more wire to run. Bob #40105 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGann, Ron (AUS BAeA) Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:27 AM Subject: RV10-List: Ground Tabs G'day all, For those that have completed the engine install, how many ground tabs are typically required on the engine side of the firewall? I have a 24 tab block on the cabin side and plan a smaller 10 tab block on the engine side - is 10 enough? thanks in advance Ron 187 finishing "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer."


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    Time: 08:06:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Starter Solonoid
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    Gary, The starter solenoid doesn't work like the master. The coil is connected between the "S" terminal and ground - just apply 12v to the "S" terminal to engage. The "I" terminal can be used a couple of different ways - one common way is to indicate that the starter solenoid is engaged and drive a light with it (+12v when engaged). Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 8:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: Starter Solonoid OK all you electrical gurus. I have two starter solonoids from Spruce that have the two big terminals on each side and two small terminals in the middle. Neither will activate when I apply 12V across the two small terminals. In checking resistance I get an open (infinity) between all of the terminals. I would expect a measured resistance between the two small terminals and an open between the large terminals until activated. Any suggestions, I thought I was a faulty unit but I bought these about two years apart and both act the same. Spruce has no info and gave me the manufacturer that made it, but they too don't have any info they import it and it has no wiring info with it. Gary 40274


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    Time: 08:15:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ground Tabs
    From: lessdragprod@aol.com
    Just a point of clarification.=C2- (However, this does go back a few years to what I think I=C2-remember.) A single ground point refers to the same electrical ground potential, rather than physically the same point. Having a 24 tab block on the firewall=C2-back to back with a 10 tab block on the engine side of the firewall=C2-should be both. Not having=C2-ground wires=C2-go through the firewall sounds like a good thing.=C2- However, the tab=C2-connections=C2-are more subject to the elements (corrosion) on the front side of the firewall and should be protec ted accordingly. Regards, Jim Ayers -----Original Message----- From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sent: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 6:25 am Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ground Tabs =C2- On the inside of the cabin, it will depend greatly on how much=C2- you try to pull grounds back for all circuits to use the=C2- single-point ground to prevent ground issues. I filled up=C2- about 48 or more tabs on mine. I think the strip from B&C=C2- was about 5" long or so. It won't hurt to buy oversized on the=C2- ground tab block if you have room for it.=C2- =C2- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying=C2- =C2- =C2- Jesse Saint wrote:=C2- > On the engine side I just have the one big ground from the engine to the > airframe. I don=99t ground anything else on the front side. The 24 ta b > block should probably cover it on the cabin side.=C2- > > =C2- > > > > Jesse Saint=C2- > > Saint Aviation, Inc.=C2- > > jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>=C2- > > www.saintaviation.com <http://www.saintaviation.com>=C2- > > Cell: 352-427-0285=C2- > > Fax: 815-377-3694=C2- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ =C2- > > *From:* McGANN, Ron [mailto:ron.mcgann@baesystems.com]=C2- > *Sent:* Friday, October 19, 2007 6:27 AM=C2- > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com=C2- > *Subject:* RV10-List: Ground Tabs=C2- > > > > G'day all,=C2- > > For those that have completed the engine install, how many ground tabs > are typically required on the engine side of the firewall? I have a 24 > ta b block on the cabin side and plan a smaller 10 tab block on the > engine si de - is 10 enough?=C2- > > > thanks in advance=C2- > Ron=C2- > 187 finishing=C2- > =C2- ============C2- ============C2- ============C2- =C2- ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http ://mail.aol.com


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    Time: 09:11:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Muffler /Silencer
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Is there anyone flying using a muffler /silencer on the -10 which complies with ICAO chapter 10 noise test? Michael www.wellenzohn.net -------- RV-10 builder (fuselage) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140771#140771


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    Time: 10:53:54 AM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Starter Solonoid
    I hate it when that happens!!! I've seen some 4 terminal solenoids that used only one of the small terminals and used the case for ground. The second small terminal isn't tied to anything! Probably has to do with using one case style for both one and two terminal (or 3/4 if you will) to cut down on inventory. Good luck! Linn gary wrote: > >OK all you electrical gurus. I have two starter solonoids from Spruce that >have the two big terminals on each side and two small terminals in the >middle. Neither will activate when I apply 12V across the two small >terminals. In checking resistance I get an open (infinity) between all of >the terminals. I would expect a measured resistance between the two small >terminals and an open between the large terminals until activated. > >Any suggestions, I thought I was a faulty unit but I bought these about two >years apart and both act the same. Spruce has no info and gave me the >manufacturer that made it, but they too don't have any info they import it >and it has no wiring info with it. > >Gary >40274 > > > >


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    Time: 11:31:54 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys...
    Anyone see this yet? Stein, got any info? Price, availability, selling to the experimental market? Looks pretty sweet. http://www.l-3avionics.com/products/smartdeck.aspx Michael


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    Time: 11:48:13 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys...
    The link has a price list on it too. Looks sweet, but makes the G900 look cheap. ;) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > Anyone see this yet? Stein, got any info? Price, availability, selling > to the experimental market? Looks pretty sweet. > > > > http://www.l-3avionics.com/products/smartdeck.aspx > > > > Michael > > *


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    Time: 12:30:30 PM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys...
    Stein might have a problem getting his finger on a price right now=C2- :) Rick S. 40185 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:30:01 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys... Anyone see this yet?=C2- Stein, got any info?=C2- Price, availability, selling to the experimental market?=C2- Looks pretty sweet. http://www.l-3avionics.com/products/smartdeck.aspx ============= ==== =======================


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    Time: 01:41:45 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Starter Solonoid
    Thanks for all the responses. Since my unit is plastic with a metal bracket for mounting, I totally overlooked the mounting bracket as one of the legs of the contactor coil. Got it now, Thanks all. Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA) Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:06 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Starter Solonoid <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Gary, The starter solenoid doesn't work like the master. The coil is connected between the "S" terminal and ground - just apply 12v to the "S" terminal to engage. The "I" terminal can be used a couple of different ways - one common way is to indicate that the starter solenoid is engaged and drive a light with it (+12v when engaged). Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 8:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: Starter Solonoid OK all you electrical gurus. I have two starter solonoids from Spruce that have the two big terminals on each side and two small terminals in the middle. Neither will activate when I apply 12V across the two small terminals. In checking resistance I get an open (infinity) between all of the terminals. I would expect a measured resistance between the two small terminals and an open between the large terminals until activated. Any suggestions, I thought I was a faulty unit but I bought these about two years apart and both act the same. Spruce has no info and gave me the manufacturer that made it, but they too don't have any info they import it and it has no wiring info with it. Gary 40274


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    Time: 03:07:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys...
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    I just read the brief write up of SmartDeck in Flying (11/07). The system looks beautiful and I especially like the center console (CCU). There is no mention of the experimental market but rather that the "launch airplane for the Smart Deck will be revealed later this year" and that once announced will become standard for that plane. The test bed for the unit featured in Flying is an SR22. Hummmm hint, hint? Maybe Cirrus is tired of Avidyne or they could get a much better deal from L3 to give SmartDeck instant creditability. When speaking to Columbia at SNF this year they mentioned that once they started offering the G1000 and the Avidyne they didn't sell another Avidyne equipped plane for 3+ months. Also a friend of mine traded in a new C-210 for a deal on an Avidyne equipped Turbo Saratoga. He got about $100K off list right around the time Piper started offering the G1000. Tim's last post is more proof of his brain power. I cannot make heads or tails out of SmartDeck's pricing. Bring your checkbook! Robin Do Not Archive


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    Time: 04:32:06 PM PST US
    From: "Patrick ONeill" <poneill@irealms.com>
    Subject: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys...
    I was looking at that this morning after the AOPA email newsletter mentioned it. Looks like some neat stuff. It has some gorgeous graphics. I was happy to see another 2" attitude indicator option until I saw the $8k price tag for it. All the "stand by" gear in their price list is in the $40k plus range so I didn't invest too much time getting excited about it. But regardless I'm very happy to see new entries in the market. Best Regards, Patrick #40715 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: RV10-List: Another new EFIS entry by the big guys... Anyone see this yet? Stein, got any info? Price, availability, selling to the experimental market? Looks pretty sweet. http://www.l-3avionics.com/products/smartdeck.aspx Michael


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    Time: 05:50:09 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Ground Tabs
    Could also have grounds for P-Mags and E-Mags that might go to the FW instead of engine? Why not just put the small B&C block on the other side (FW side) of the internal (Cabin side) big block and have plenty? BUT 10 should be plenty! Bill 7a Ark _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA) Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ground Tabs Ron, One more data point for you - I just looked and am using 5 tabs on the engine side of the FW and can't imagine using more. Here's the list: Oil Temp sensor, Fuel Pressure sensor, 2 hall effect current sensors (dual electrical bus and I'm monitoring total current draw from each alternator, and finally 1 for an old fashioned Oil Pressure switch like you'd use for a hobbs (drives an oil pressure light - I have my EIS remotely mounted and have all alerting via the EFIS so this is a backup). I'm using a GRT EIS if it makes a difference. Grounding sensors on the cabin side wouldn't be a big deal if you wanted to totally avoid the connections on the engine side - just more wire to run. Bob #40105 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGann, Ron (AUS BAeA) Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:27 AM Subject: RV10-List: Ground Tabs G'day all, For those that have completed the engine install, how many ground tabs are typically required on the engine side of the firewall? I have a 24 tab block on the cabin side and plan a smaller 10 tab block on the engine side - is 10 enough? thanks in advance Ron 187 finishing "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer."


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    Time: 07:44:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Throttle cable lengths with throttle quad option
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    I am planning on the throttle quadrant and the Accuracy Avionics center console. Is anyone else going this combination and already hooked up their engine cables? I am approaching time to order the FF kit and would like to custom order the cables if I need to add a couple inches to each one to make them fit correctly. There has been some discussion about lengths due to alternate routing but I don't remember anything including the AA center console. Gary Blankenbiller 40674 KF29 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140838#140838


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    Time: 09:15:10 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
    Subject: For What It's Worth...
    In May last year... with great trepidation... I went down to Fullerton Airport for the "Combat Fighter Pilot Experience" that my wife had given me as a birthday present. That's me in the front seat off for the wildest ride of my life. While watching the local news today I saw this: http://www.knbc.com/slideshow/14379499/detail.html?taf=la Jeff Carpenter 40304 Do Not Archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>




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