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1. 06:16 AM - Re: Radio Static Help (Michael Kraus)
2. 06:34 AM - Trim troubles (gary)
3. 07:03 AM - Re: Trim troubles (Bobby J. Hughes)
4. 07:03 AM - Re: Trim troubles (Tim Olson)
5. 07:06 AM - Re: Re: baggage area tie downs (Ben Westfall)
6. 07:10 AM - Re: WD-1002 / F1001B / F1040 Fuse channel rivet holes (Vernon Smith)
7. 08:42 AM - Re: First Flight (Deems Davis)
8. 09:19 AM - Construction Sequence (LES KEARNEY)
9. 09:35 AM - Re: Construction Sequence (Rene Felker)
10. 09:58 AM - Re: Re: Construction Sequence (LES KEARNEY)
11. 10:02 AM - Re: Construction Sequence (Tim Olson)
12. 11:03 AM - Re: Construction Sequence (Les Kearney)
13. 11:53 AM - Re: Construction Sequence (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
14. 12:07 PM - Re: Construction Sequence (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
15. 12:33 PM - Re: Re: Construction Sequence (Rene Felker)
16. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: Re: Construction Sequence (LES KEARNEY)
17. 01:12 PM - Re: Construction Sequence (linn Walters)
18. 01:47 PM - Re: Trim troubles (gary)
19. 02:11 PM - Re: Trim troubles (=?utf-8?B?Qm9iIE5ld21hbg==?=)
20. 02:12 PM - Vans Wingtip Light Kit - missing stuff (Jay Brinkmeyer)
21. 02:54 PM - Re: Vans Wingtip Light Kit - missing stuff (David Maib)
22. 05:58 PM - Re: Construction Sequence (Joseph Rhodes)
23. 06:34 PM - Re: Construction Sequence (Bob-tcw)
24. 08:41 PM - Re: TruTrak Pitch servo installation (Tim Olson)
25. 09:37 PM - Fuel Valve problem (Sam Marlow)
26. 10:41 PM - Re: Fuel Valve problem (Dave Saylor)
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| Subject: | Radio Static Help |
We had a similar issue and fixed it with adjusting the squelch. We were activating
the mic with the louder engine noise on take off and at high manifold pressure.
May not be the sam problem for you, but easy to check out.
-Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
Sent: 10/29/07 3:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Radio Static Help
4 years ago today I placed my order for RV-10 tail kit #40134 as a birthday
present to
myself. Now, 2500 building and 100 flying hours later, I can say it was a
pretty nice gift
and well worth it... unfortunately I haven't got all the bugs worked out yet:
I've spent the last few weeks trying to track down a problem with radio
static on my
Garmin SL-30 Nav/Comm. The SL-30 is attached to a Garmin GMA-340 Audio panel.
The static itself sounds random (i.e. not obviously uniform like I would
expect from an ignition
system), however, it is somehow associated with engine throttle setting. The
static starts around 2000 RPM and gets progressively worse as throttle
increases.
On takeoff, it is so bad you can not comprehend any received transmissions.
During cruise it appears
to be somehow associated with manifold pressure (i.e. throttle setting, not
RPM). It makes
listening to ATC difficult to impossible. I also think it may be affecting
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I have hooked up my MAC trim system for the first time. I have a hat switch
trim control on the stick and switches on the subpanel that duplicate the
hat switch. I am using the new relays from MAC.
The problem is that while the switches on the panel work, the hat switch
does not work. It activates the appropriate relay when it should but no
power goes to the servo. I am stumped as to where to look for the problem
as obviously I have the relay to servo correct, and the panel switch to
relay correct. Since the hat switch activates the relay, where is the
problem?
Any suggestions.
Gary
40274
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Gary,
Make sue the two diodes are in the proper location and orientation. Both
the rocker switch and hat switch should provide a ground to the relay
deck. I am assuming you are using Ray Allen's products and the RS2
Rocker \ RAC grip.
Bobby
40116
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:23 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Trim troubles
I have hooked up my MAC trim system for the first time. I have a hat
switch trim control on the stick and switches on the subpanel that
duplicate the hat switch. I am using the new relays from MAC.
The problem is that while the switches on the panel work, the hat switch
does not work. It activates the appropriate relay when it should but no
power goes to the servo. I am stumped as to where to look for the
problem as obviously I have the relay to servo correct, and the panel
switch to relay correct. Since the hat switch activates the relay,
where is the problem?
Any suggestions.
Gary
40274
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| Subject: | Re: Trim troubles |
How are the stick switches wired? One wire from the pair usually
goes to ground, and the other goes to the relay, so you're
grounding the input to activate it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
gary wrote:
>
> I have hooked up my MAC trim system for the first time. I have a hat switch
> trim control on the stick and switches on the subpanel that duplicate the
> hat switch. I am using the new relays from MAC.
>
> The problem is that while the switches on the panel work, the hat switch
> does not work. It activates the appropriate relay when it should but no
> power goes to the servo. I am stumped as to where to look for the problem
> as obviously I have the relay to servo correct, and the panel switch to
> relay correct. Since the hat switch activates the relay, where is the
> problem?
>
> Any suggestions.
>
> Gary
> 40274
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| Subject: | Re: baggage area tie downs |
Van's sells a set of baggage area tie downs under the "Airframe and Cockpit
Accessories" section on their website.
-Ben
#40579
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| Subject: | WD-1002 / F1001B / F1040 Fuse channel rivet holes |
If it's anywhere close to North Albany, I'd be happy to open up the shop an
d give a tour of my project.
Vern Smith (#324 doors and cabin top)
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Subject: RE: RV10-List: WD-1002 / F1001B / F1040 Fuse channel rivet holesDa
te: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:33:27 -0700From: johnwcox@pacificnw.comTo: rv10-lis
t@matronics.com
We are overdue for the October Dinner of the NW RV-10 group. I will like a
fire under John Jessen to get all of us together for a fall dinner and dis
cussion.
Thanks,
John
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Al,
Boy, you've been hard at it! She looks beautiful! Congratulations on
having the only FLYING RV-10 in Arizona!
Deems
green w./envy
Albert Gardner wrote:
> *N991RV first flew on 10/23. 4 hours now but oil temps are too high 245 so
Im trying to fix that. Otherwise, it flies great, just as I hoped. What a plane!*
> *Albert Gardner*
> *Yuma, AZ*
> * *
> * *
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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| Subject: | Construction Sequence |
Hi All
I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build fuse. Last
will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount of space available
in my garage and my desire to keep the project as close as possible.
As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see that the
tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small space problem.
When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope must include
the provision that she be able to park her car in the garage during the winter.
Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent that she be able to open
her car door whilst in the garage was a scope change and subject to negotiation.
Considerng the untenable position I was in, I immediatel capitualted.
I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the tail and
fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail control surfaces
or wings to be attached.
My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in this aproach
that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the wings / engine
/ tail control surfaces to the very last.
Cheers
Les
#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
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| Subject: | Construction Sequence |
I mounted the tail control surfaces for fitting but then removed them and
followed the path you are on except I did build my wings .90% point..before
I started on the fuselage. I mated the tail and fuselage and put the cabin
top on etc. Once I got to that point, I had to move to the hanger..I did
have to rearrange my garage layout once my wife figured out that she could
not get in and out of her car while it was in the garage..
Also, I stored my 90% wings in the hanger while I worked on the fuselage.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
40322
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
Hi All
I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build fuse.
Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount of space
available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as close as
possible.
As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see
that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small space
problem.
When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope must
include the provision that she be able to park her car in the garage during
the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent that she be
able to open her car door whilst in the garage was a scope change and
subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable position I was in, I
immediatel capitualted.
I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the
tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail
control surfaces or wings to be attached.
My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in this
aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the wings /
engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
Cheers
Les
#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
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| Subject: | Re: Construction Sequence |
Rene
It is reassuring to know that I am not the only plan deviant on the list ... Where
there ny "gotchas" to be careful about?
Cheers
Les
#40643 - Still singing the section 9 blues
----- Original Message -----
From: Rene Felker <rene@felker.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
> I mounted the tail control surfaces for fitting but then removed
> them and
> followed the path you are on except I did build my wings .90%
> point..beforeI started on the fuselage. I mated the tail
> and fuselage and put the cabin
> top on etc. Once I got to that point, I had to move to the
> hanger..I did
> have to rearrange my garage layout once my wife figured out that
> she could
> not get in and out of her car while it was in the garage..
>
>
>
> Also, I stored my 90% wings in the hanger while I worked on the
> fuselage.
>
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 40322
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:18 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
>
>
>
> Hi All
>
> I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo
> build fuse.
> Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the
> amount of space
> available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as
> close as
> possible.
>
> As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section
> 29, I see
> that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a
> small space
> problem.
>
> When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project
> scope must
> include the provision that she be able to park her car in the
> garage during
> the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent
> that she be
> able to open her car door whilst in the garage was a scope
> change and
> subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable position I was
> in, I
> immediatel capitualted.
>
> I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to
> the point the
> tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for
> the tail
> control surfaces or wings to be attached.
>
> My question for those who have gone before: are there any
> landmines in this
> aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave
> the wings /
> engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> #40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Construction Sequence |
I've got 2 great options for you (her):
1) Do you have any exposed turf on your property? You could
build yourself another garage for her, or better yet, a
nice 36 x 36 heated/insulated/Cable Equipped work area.
2) I think if you check around you may still be able to find
Yugos, or Geo Metros, or if you want to treat her really special
perhaps a mini cooper. That might just give you enough
leeway.
Sorry, just couldn't resist.
As for your question, I don't think you really need to mount any
tail surfaces at all until you are just prepping for paint or
perhaps even after. No big deal doing those during final assembly,
but you'll want to trim the intersection fairing before painting
or be super careful anyway.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
LES KEARNEY wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build
> fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount
> of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as
> close as possible.
>
> As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see
> that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small
> space problem.
>
> When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope
> _must_ include the provision that she be able to park her car in the
> garage during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the
> requirent that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage was
> a scope change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable
> position I was in, I immediatel capitualted.
>
> I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the
> tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail
> control surfaces or wings to be attached.
>
> My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in
> this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the
> wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> #40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Construction Sequence |
Tim
I do not mess with "She who must be obeyed". Especially when she has largely
turned a blind eye to what I am doing most free hours in the garage. Your
space saving "suggestions" shall be given the consideration they deserve....
I'll check out the intersection fairing as you suggest. It should not be a
problem as my painter wants me to fly off a few hours before painting.
Cheers
Les
#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: October-30-07 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
I've got 2 great options for you (her):
1) Do you have any exposed turf on your property? You could
build yourself another garage for her, or better yet, a
nice 36 x 36 heated/insulated/Cable Equipped work area.
2) I think if you check around you may still be able to find
Yugos, or Geo Metros, or if you want to treat her really special
perhaps a mini cooper. That might just give you enough
leeway.
Sorry, just couldn't resist.
As for your question, I don't think you really need to mount any
tail surfaces at all until you are just prepping for paint or
perhaps even after. No big deal doing those during final assembly,
but you'll want to trim the intersection fairing before painting
or be super careful anyway.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
LES KEARNEY wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build
> fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount
> of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as
> close as possible.
>
> As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see
> that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small
> space problem.
>
> When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope
> _must_ include the provision that she be able to park her car in the
> garage during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the
> requirent that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage was
> a scope change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable
> position I was in, I immediatel capitualted.
>
> I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the
> tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail
> control surfaces or wings to be attached.
>
> My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in
> this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the
> wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> #40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Construction Sequence |
Les
what I did was to mount the empennage and drill and rig everything while
it was just the tail cone, then I took it all apart and stored the emp
until final assembly. Then that left me free to attach the tail cone and
move forward.
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 12:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
Hi All
I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build
fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount
of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as
close as possible.
As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see
that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small
space problem.
When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope must
include the provision that she be able to park her car in the garage
during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent
that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage was a scope
change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable position I
was in, I immediatel capitualted.
I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the
tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail
control surfaces or wings to be attached.
My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in
this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the
wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
Cheers
Les
#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
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| Subject: | Construction Sequence |
The fairing he is referring to is the wing root intersection fairing and
one of the biggest pains to get right. It is just a series of trial and
fits. We had the wings painted and no paint on the fuse and still ended
up scratching the side of the fuse pretty good.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
Tim
I do not mess with "She who must be obeyed". Especially when she has
largely
turned a blind eye to what I am doing most free hours in the garage.
Your
space saving "suggestions" shall be given the consideration they
deserve....
I'll check out the intersection fairing as you suggest. It should not be
a
problem as my painter wants me to fly off a few hours before painting.
Cheers
Les
#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: October-30-07 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
I've got 2 great options for you (her):
1) Do you have any exposed turf on your property? You could
build yourself another garage for her, or better yet, a
nice 36 x 36 heated/insulated/Cable Equipped work area.
2) I think if you check around you may still be able to find
Yugos, or Geo Metros, or if you want to treat her really special
perhaps a mini cooper. That might just give you enough
leeway.
Sorry, just couldn't resist.
As for your question, I don't think you really need to mount any
tail surfaces at all until you are just prepping for paint or
perhaps even after. No big deal doing those during final assembly,
but you'll want to trim the intersection fairing before painting
or be super careful anyway.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
LES KEARNEY wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build
> fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the
amount
> of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as
> close as possible.
>
> As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I
see
> that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small
> space problem.
>
> When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope
> _must_ include the provision that she be able to park her car in the
> garage during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the
> requirent that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage
was
> a scope change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable
> position I was in, I immediatel capitualted.
>
> I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point
the
> tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the
tail
> control surfaces or wings to be attached.
>
> My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in
> this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave
the
> wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> #40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Construction Sequence |
I can not think of any problems. After doing my final assembly, I was glade
that I had fitted the tail feathers early since I was able to do it at a
lower working height. I had the tail set just high enough off the ground to
be able to put the rudder on. Once the airplane is on its gear, us short
people need a stool to be able to do anything with the tail.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
40322
801-721-6080
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
Rene
It is reassuring to know that I am not the only plan deviant on the list ...
Where there ny "gotchas" to be careful about?
Cheers
Les
#40643 - Still singing the section 9 blues
----- Original Message -----
From: Rene Felker <rene@felker.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
> I mounted the tail control surfaces for fitting but then removed
> them and
> followed the path you are on except I did build my wings .90%
> point..beforeI started on the fuselage. I mated the tail
> and fuselage and put the cabin
> top on etc. Once I got to that point, I had to move to the
> hanger..I did
> have to rearrange my garage layout once my wife figured out that
> she could
> not get in and out of her car while it was in the garage..
>
>
>
> Also, I stored my 90% wings in the hanger while I worked on the
> fuselage.
>
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 40322
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:18 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
>
>
>
> Hi All
>
> I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo
> build fuse.
> Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the
> amount of space
> available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as
> close as
> possible.
>
> As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section
> 29, I see
> that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a
> small space
> problem.
>
> When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project
> scope must
> include the provision that she be able to park her car in the
> garage during
> the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent
> that she be
> able to open her car door whilst in the garage was a scope
> change and
> subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable position I was
> in, I
> immediatel capitualted.
>
> I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to
> the point the
> tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for
> the tail
> control surfaces or wings to be attached.
>
> My question for those who have gone before: are there any
> landmines in this
> aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave
> the wings /
> engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> #40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Rene
Dan made a similar suggestion. I will put the tail together first and then disassemble
prior to mating the fuse and tail.
Thanks for the advice.
..Les
----- Original Message -----
From: Rene Felker <rene@felker.com>
Subject: RE: RE: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
> I can not think of any problems. After doing my final
> assembly, I was glade
> that I had fitted the tail feathers early since I was able to do
> it at a
> lower working height. I had the tail set just high enough
> off the ground to
> be able to put the rudder on. Once the airplane is on its
> gear, us short
> people need a stool to be able to do anything with the tail.
>
>
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 40322
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:56 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
>
>
>
> Rene
>
>
>
> It is reassuring to know that I am not the only plan deviant on
> the list ...
> Where there ny "gotchas" to be careful about?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Les
>
> #40643 - Still singing the section 9 blues
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rene Felker <rene@felker.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:49 am
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
> > I mounted the tail control surfaces for fitting but then
> removed
> > them and
> > followed the path you are on except I did build my wings .90%
> > point..beforeI started on the fuselage. I mated the tail
> > and fuselage and put the cabin
> > top on etc. Once I got to that point, I had to move to the
> > hanger..I did
> > have to rearrange my garage layout once my wife figured out
> that
> > she could
> > not get in and out of her car while it was in the garage..
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, I stored my 90% wings in the hanger while I worked on
> the
> > fuselage.
> >
> >
> > Rene' Felker
> >
> > N423CF
> >
> > 40322
> >
> > 801-721-6080
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES
> KEARNEY> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:18 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then
> slo
> > build fuse.
> > Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the
> > amount of space
> > available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as
> > close as
> > possible.
> >
> > As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section
> > 29, I see
> > that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a
> > small space
> > problem.
> >
> > When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project
> > scope must
> > include the provision that she be able to park her car in the
> > garage during
> > the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent
> > that she be
> > able to open her car door whilst in the garage was a scope
> > change and
> > subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable position I
> was
> > in, I
> > immediatel capitualted.
> >
> > I still have enough space in the garage to continue up
> to
> > the point the
> > tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow
> for
> > the tail
> > control surfaces or wings to be attached.
> >
> > My question for those who have gone before: are there any
> > landmines in this
> > aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave
> > the wings /
> > engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Les
> >
> > #40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Or you could erect one of these to store the parts in temporarily ......
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=42211
or
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90419
And they're on sale right now ..... which means you're saving money by
buying it! ;-)
C'mon now .... she uses the same rationale, doesn't she???
Linn
do not archive
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I've got 2 great options for you (her):
>
> 1) Do you have any exposed turf on your property? You could
> build yourself another garage for her, or better yet, a
> nice 36 x 36 heated/insulated/Cable Equipped work area.
>
> 2) I think if you check around you may still be able to find
> Yugos, or Geo Metros, or if you want to treat her really special
> perhaps a mini cooper. That might just give you enough
> leeway.
>
> Sorry, just couldn't resist.
>
> As for your question, I don't think you really need to mount any
> tail surfaces at all until you are just prepping for paint or
> perhaps even after. No big deal doing those during final assembly,
> but you'll want to trim the intersection fairing before painting
> or be super careful anyway.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> LES KEARNEY wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo
>> build fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by
>> the amount of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the
>> project as close as possible.
>>
>> As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I
>> see that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a
>> small space problem.
>>
>> When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope
>> _must_ include the provision that she be able to park her car in the
>> garage during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the
>> requirent that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage
>> was a scope change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the
>> untenable position I was in, I immediatel capitualted.
>>
>> I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point
>> the tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for
>> the tail control surfaces or wings to be attached.
>>
>> My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines
>> in this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to
>> leave the wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Les
>>
>> #40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
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I think I have it wired that way, the relay clicks when I activate the stick
but the servo won't move unless I press the panel switch. Both switches
activate the relay though.
Gary
40274
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trim troubles
How are the stick switches wired? One wire from the pair usually
goes to ground, and the other goes to the relay, so you're
grounding the input to activate it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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gary wrote:
>
> I have hooked up my MAC trim system for the first time. I have a hat
switch
> trim control on the stick and switches on the subpanel that duplicate the
> hat switch. I am using the new relays from MAC.
>
> The problem is that while the switches on the panel work, the hat switch
> does not work. It activates the appropriate relay when it should but no
> power goes to the servo. I am stumped as to where to look for the problem
> as obviously I have the relay to servo correct, and the panel switch to
> relay correct. Since the hat switch activates the relay, where is the
> problem?
>
> Any suggestions.
>
> Gary
> 40274
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| Subject: | Re: Trim troubles |
One possibility with a system envolving relays is that when you are pressing a
stick button, actuallly two relays are activating and this would apply effectively
no voltage to the servo. You may want to listen to all the relays with a
straw to hear which ones are actually be activated.
-Bob Newman
Tcw Technologies
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message-----
From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
To:<rv10-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trim troubles
I think I have it wired that way, the relay clicks when I activate the stick
but the servo won't move unless I press the panel switch. Both switches
activate the relay though.
Gary
40274
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trim troubles
How are the stick switches wired? One wire from the pair usually
goes to ground, and the other goes to the relay, so you're
grounding the input to activate it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
gary wrote:
>
> I have hooked up my MAC trim system for the first time. I have a hat
switch
> trim control on the stick and switches on the subpanel that duplicate the
> hat switch. I am using the new relays from MAC.
>
> The problem is that while the switches on the panel work, the hat switch
> does not work. It activates the appropriate relay when it should but no
> power goes to the servo. I am stumped as to where to look for the problem
> as obviously I have the relay to servo correct, and the panel switch to
> relay correct. Since the hat switch activates the relay, where is the
> problem?
>
> Any suggestions.
>
> Gary
> 40274
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| Subject: | Vans Wingtip Light Kit - missing stuff |
Has anyone else had issues with missing VA-194B and VA-194C MR16 Retainer cups/plates?
Kudos to Vans for sending replacement parts (no charge). However, their
system showed quantity 4 each and my OP-36 directions show quantity 2 each.
Two lights per side?
Maybe I've been sniffing too much fiberglass dust lately...
Cheers,
Jay
fiberglass is good for you, dooda, dooda... (to the tune of Old Suzzana)
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Wingtip Light Kit - missing stuff |
All of my parts were there (2 retainer cups/plates) but the bulbs don't seem to
fit very well into the cups, so the retainer plate is difficult/impossible to
get installed correctly. I have not called Van's, but wonder if the size of
the bulbs has changed slightly since they manufactured the cups. I will be interested
to hear what others have found.
David Maib
40559
On Tuesday, October 30, 2007, at 04:19PM, "Jay Brinkmeyer" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>Has anyone else had issues with missing VA-194B and VA-194C MR16 Retainer cups/plates?
Kudos to Vans for sending replacement parts (no charge). However, their
system showed quantity 4 each and my OP-36 directions show quantity 2 each.
Two lights per side?
>
>Maybe I've been sniffing too much fiberglass dust lately...
>
>Cheers,
>Jay
>fiberglass is good for you, dooda, dooda... (to the tune of Old Suzzana)
>
>
>__________________________________________________
>
>
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| Subject: | Construction Sequence |
Your build sequence is the same as I have planed
So it sounds good to me
Joe Rhodes 40744
Just starting
Rvbuildernet.com
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 12:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
Hi All
I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build fuse.
Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount of space
available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as close as
possible.
As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see
that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small space
problem.
When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope must
include the provision that she be able to park her car in the garage during
the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent that she be
able to open her car door whilst in the garage was a scope change and
subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable position I was in, I
immediatel capitualted.
I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the
tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail
control surfaces or wings to be attached.
My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in this
aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the wings /
engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
Cheers
Les
#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
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| Subject: | Re: Construction Sequence |
Joe,
I'm well into section 33 and recently completed the endurance test, sec
29. I've built in order. my wings and tail are all done. Its been a
slow build kit all the way.. So far I can't see any issue. I've had
my wings in long term storage and have not had to visit them once during
the fuse assembly. Occansionally, I'd stop by and say howdy, but have
not needed them to build from.. Note. When you do get the fuse
attached to the tail cone the airplane gets very long! Also, the side
steps get permanently attached somewhere around sect 32 and the thing
then is kinda wide too!
Changing subjects, One of our glastars was built under a similar
garage negotiation arrangement and it was so tight for space that I had
to disconnect the garage door opener so she didn't accidentally try to
raise the door and crash it into the tail feathers. but it all
worked out fine.
Bob Newman
TCW Technologies
www.tcwtech.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Rhodes
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
Your build sequence is the same as I have planed
So it sounds good to me
Joe Rhodes 40744
Just starting
Rvbuildernet.com
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-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 12:18 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Construction Sequence
Hi All
I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build
fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount
of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as
close as possible.
As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I
see that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small
space problem.
When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope
must include the provision that she be able to park her car in the
garage during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the
requirent that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage was
a scope change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable
position I was in, I immediatel capitualted.
I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point
the tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the
tail control surfaces or wings to be attached.
My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in
this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the
wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.
Cheers
Les
#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues
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| Subject: | Re: TruTrak Pitch servo installation |
Do you have photos? I'm wondering, are you talking about the system
that uses a roller wheel that runs over a cable inside an aluminum
channel? It's a torque enhancing pitch mechanism? I'm having better
luck with that one than the original pushrod-only one.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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AirMike wrote:
>
> I am having a problem with the install of the (what should be easy)
> TruTrak Pitch servo. The problem is that the Aluminum spacer that
> they include is too long. I only have about .28" of space between the
> bellcrank bracket and the MM-3-300 rod end bearing. The TruTrak Pitch
> servo plans call for a (supplied) .438" spacer in that space. If I
> put in that thick of a spacer the whole thing would be very
> cattywhompus and would stress the drive on the servo and the bearing
> on the bellcrank. (Yes, I did double check to see that I reinstalled
> the drive wheel properly)
>
> If anyone has had the same issue please let me know.
>
> Also, as this has been an all day ordeal - calling Zach at Trutrak
> three times today, I intend to post installation instructions for the
> servo tomorrow.
>
> -------- OSH '08 or Bust Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/uggg
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142663#142663
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Valve problem |
Just wanted to let everyone know, I changed the fuel selector, and that
fixed the fuel shutoff problem as well as the venting overboard after
refueling. Everything was plumbed properly, it was a defective valve,
part #V407P-4, that is standard issue in the RV-10 kit supplied by Van's.
I would suggest everyone test there valve periodically for proper
operation! Be safe, stay informed, this forum is a valuable resource!
Sam Marlow
#40157
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| Subject: | Fuel Valve problem |
Sam,
Did you take apart the faulty valve?
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Valve problem
Just wanted to let everyone know, I changed the fuel selector, and that
fixed the fuel shutoff problem as well as the venting overboard after
refueling. Everything was plumbed properly, it was a defective valve, part
#V407P-4, that is standard issue in the RV-10 kit supplied by Van's.
I would suggest everyone test there valve periodically for proper
operation! Be safe, stay informed, this forum is a valuable resource!
Sam Marlow
#40157
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