RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 10/31/07


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:15 AM - Re: Door Edge Insulation (Tim Olson)
     2. 05:56 AM - Re: Vans Wingtip Light Kit - missing stuff (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     3. 06:07 AM - Re: Fuel Valve problem (Sam Marlow)
     4. 11:35 AM - -10 Builders in DC area (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     5. 01:06 PM - pilots operating handbook (David McNeill)
     6. 06:22 PM - Re: Trim troubles (Dan Masys)
     7. 07:27 PM - Re: Vans Wingtip Light Kit - missing stuff (David Maib)
     8. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: Trim troubles (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:15:05 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Door Edge Insulation
    I had my local NAPA store order it for me. I think most stores that sell auto body supplies should be able to get it. That said, once I got it I really couldn't see any difference between it and GE Silicon II, but perhaps it just looks/smells/feels identical and the GE stuff doesn't adhere as well...I'm not sure. Anyway, it should be easy to order and get in a day or two. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Albert Gardner wrote: > > > I'm finally getting around to putting the 'P' strip around the door edges > and running into a problem. I was unable to find any 3M Super Silicone > Sealant as was recommended, if fact other than DAP brand, the only thing I > found was GE Silicon II but it doesn't stick very well to the 'P' strip. Has > the 3M stuff worked well for everybody? If so, any ideas on where to get it? > ACS has a couple of items in their catalog: > Pg 74 Dow Corning "Silastic" > Pg 127 Valco Cincinnati Multi-purpose Sealant > Pg 131 3M Weatherstrip adhesives - several listed. > The cabin is pretty noisy without the door edge insulation. > Albert Gardner > Yuma, AZ >


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    Time: 05:56:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Vans Wingtip Light Kit - missing stuff
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    On mine the cups went up about halfway, and the springs really had to be compressed to fit at all. I made the angle spacers, and tried to screw everything together repeatedly before I finally figured out how to get it all to work. The easy way to do it, is to put all three through the face plate and set it on the bench, put springs on the screws, backing plate on, and compress the springs until they just seat in the nut plates. Then this is the hard part, slide the whole assembly to the side of the bench and as one screw is exposed get a screwdriver on it and hold the pressure. Do this for each of the three and it works. The hard part is then getting the angle spacers to line up, but work with it. Dan N289DT RV10E Flying -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Maib Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans Wingtip Light Kit - missing stuff All of my parts were there (2 retainer cups/plates) but the bulbs don't seem to fit very well into the cups, so the retainer plate is difficult/impossible to get installed correctly. I have not called Van's, but wonder if the size of the bulbs has changed slightly since they manufactured the cups. I will be interested to hear what others have found. David Maib 40559 On Tuesday, October 30, 2007, at 04:19PM, "Jay Brinkmeyer" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> wrote: <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> > >Has anyone else had issues with missing VA-194B and VA-194C MR16 Retainer cups/plates? Kudos to Vans for sending replacement parts (no charge). However, their system showed quantity 4 each and my OP-36 directions show quantity 2 each. Two lights per side? > >Maybe I've been sniffing too much fiberglass dust lately... > >Cheers, >Jay >fiberglass is good for you, dooda, dooda... (to the tune of Old Suzzana) > > >__________________________________________________ > >


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    Time: 06:07:04 AM PST US
    From: Sam Marlow <sam@fr8dog.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Valve problem
    Idid, and it looked perfectly normal. No cracks in the plastic, smooth operation, nothing one could see. Dave Saylor wrote: > Sam, > > Did you take apart the faulty valve? > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters LLC > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA > 831-722-9141 > 831-750-0284 CL > www.AirCraftersLLC.com <http://www.AirCraftersLLC.com> > > > Do Not Archive > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Marlow > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:19 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Fuel Valve problem > > Just wanted to let everyone know, I changed the fuel selector, and > that fixed the fuel shutoff problem as well as the venting overboard > after refueling. Everything was plumbed properly, it was a defective > valve, part #V407P-4, that is standard issue in the RV-10 kit supplied > by Van's. > I would suggest everyone test there valve periodically for proper > operation! Be safe, stay informed, this forum is a valuable resource! > Sam Marlow > #40157 > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > * > * > > > *


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    Time: 11:35:37 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: -10 Builders in DC area
    I find myself out in Sterling VA and Germantown MD for the next 2 days on business and was wondering if there are an -10 builders that would like any help or just to have a beer. Not sure of my availability yet but thought I would throw that out there. Email me off list. Michael


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    Time: 01:06:12 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: pilots operating handbook
    I .think someone publish something on this awhile back. Anyone have a pdf of a starting point for the POH.


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    Time: 06:22:26 PM PST US
    From: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Trim troubles
    > Time: 01:47:17 PM PST US > From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trim troubles > > > I think I have it wired that way, the relay clicks when I activate the stick > but the servo won't move unless I press the panel switch. Both switches > activate the relay though. > > Gary > 40274 If those panel mounted switches are the rocker switches supplied by Ray Allen, the problem is that if you look closely at the schematic for those switches, they ground both sides of the SPDT circuit when the rocker is in the neutral position. This is supposed to reduce the amount of trim motor run-on, but it perfectly skunks the possibility of having a separate switch in parallel (ie., the one on the coolie hat) to work the flaps or trim circuit. This little "feature" of the rocker switches caused me to have to re-cut the right side panel to get rid of the rectangular hole for the Ray Allen switch, and put in a standard SPDT spring loaded switch for the panel mount location. -Dan Masys RV-10 N104LD flying - 75 hrs.


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    Time: 07:27:28 PM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Vans Wingtip Light Kit - missing stuff
    Thanks Dan. On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:55 AM, Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: <LloydDR@wernerco.com> On mine the cups went up about halfway, and the springs really had to be compressed to fit at all. I made the angle spacers, and tried to screw everything together repeatedly before I finally figured out how to get it all to work. The easy way to do it, is to put all three through the face plate and set it on the bench, put springs on the screws, backing plate on, and compress the springs until they just seat in the nut plates. Then this is the hard part, slide the whole assembly to the side of the bench and as one screw is exposed get a screwdriver on it and hold the pressure. Do this for each of the three and it works. The hard part is then getting the angle spacers to line up, but work with it. Dan N289DT RV10E Flying -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Maib Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans Wingtip Light Kit - missing stuff All of my parts were there (2 retainer cups/plates) but the bulbs don't seem to fit very well into the cups, so the retainer plate is difficult/impossible to get installed correctly. I have not called Van's, but wonder if the size of the bulbs has changed slightly since they manufactured the cups. I will be interested to hear what others have found. David Maib 40559 On Tuesday, October 30, 2007, at 04:19PM, "Jay Brinkmeyer" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> wrote: <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> > > Has anyone else had issues with missing VA-194B and VA-194C MR16 Retainer cups/plates? Kudos to Vans for sending replacement parts (no charge). However, their system showed quantity 4 each and my OP-36 directions show quantity 2 each. Two lights per side? > > Maybe I've been sniffing too much fiberglass dust lately... > > Cheers, > Jay > fiberglass is good for you, dooda, dooda... (to the tune of Old Suzzana) > > > __________________________________________________ > >


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    Time: 07:50:42 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Trim troubles
    I don't think it negates all possibilities....with both the relay system, and the Safety-Trim system, I had a panel mounted Elevator switch (Ray Allen Type), and 2 stick switches, and all 3 switches worked fine. You just have to piece together the proper diagrams from Ray Allen and then it all works together. I know someone mentioned diodes already, and I think I had a pair in my install too, but I haven't taken the time to re-think how I put that all together....but I do know it works. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying Dan Masys wrote: > > >> Time: 01:47:17 PM PST US >> From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net> >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trim troubles >> >> >> I think I have it wired that way, the relay clicks when I activate the stick >> but the servo won't move unless I press the panel switch. Both switches >> activate the relay though. >> >> Gary >> 40274 > > If those panel mounted switches are the rocker switches supplied by Ray Allen, the problem is that if you look closely at the schematic for those switches, they ground both sides of the SPDT circuit when the rocker is in the neutral position. This is supposed to reduce the amount of trim motor run-on, but it perfectly skunks the possibility of having a separate switch in parallel (ie., the one on the coolie hat) to work the flaps or trim circuit. > > This little "feature" of the rocker switches caused me to have to re-cut the right side panel to get rid of the rectangular hole for the Ray Allen switch, and put in a standard SPDT spring loaded switch for the panel mount location. > > -Dan Masys > RV-10 N104LD flying - 75 hrs. >




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