Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 03:38 AM - Re: Alternate static switch (Rob Kermanj)
2. 05:15 AM - Re: Re: Trim troubles (gary)
3. 05:55 AM - Re: Alternate static switch (Jesse Saint)
4. 06:38 AM - Re: Alternate static switch (Rob Kermanj)
5. 07:17 AM - Re: Trim troubles and mods (linn Walters)
6. 07:51 AM - Dan Lloyd - Greenville, PA ()
7. 08:05 AM - Re: Dan Lloyd - Greenville, PA (Rob Kermanj)
8. 08:05 AM - Pray for Dan's family (Tim Olson)
9. 08:32 AM - Re: Pray for Dan's family ()
10. 08:32 AM - [Fw: [OhioValleyRVators] Re: Greenville PA] ()
11. 08:38 AM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (Les Kearney)
12. 08:39 AM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (John W. Cox)
13. 09:02 AM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (Pascal)
14. 09:13 AM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (Deems Davis)
15. 09:23 AM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
16. 09:31 AM - Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (MauleDriver)
17. 09:32 AM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (MauleDriver)
18. 09:39 AM - Re: Alternate static switch (nick@nleonard.com)
19. 09:52 AM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (Rick Sked)
20. 11:07 AM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (dherring10)
21. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (John Jessen)
22. 12:34 PM - Pray for Dan's Family (John Dunne)
23. 12:55 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's Family (Chris and Susie McGough)
24. 01:08 PM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (James Hein)
25. 01:50 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's Family (John Testement)
26. 01:52 PM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (Chris Johnston)
27. 02:36 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (Vernon Smith)
28. 03:02 PM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (Bill DeRouchey)
29. 03:02 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (Jesse Saint)
30. 03:03 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (Larry Rosen)
31. 03:04 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (McGANN, Ron)
32. 03:07 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (Joseph Rhodes)
33. 04:02 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's family ()
34. 04:03 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's family ()
35. 04:47 PM - Representation at Dan's Funeral (effectus@rogers.com)
36. 04:47 PM - Re: Dan Lloyd - Greenville, PA (Patrick ONeill)
37. 05:03 PM - Re: Representation at Dan's Funeral (Richard Sipp)
38. 05:03 PM - Re: Representation at Dan's Funeral (Rene Felker)
39. 05:39 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (John W. Cox)
40. 05:53 PM - Re: Representation at Dan's Funeral (John W. Cox)
41. 06:04 PM - Thinking of Dan's Family (Mark Ritter)
42. 07:49 PM - Re: Representation at Dan's Funeral (Pascal)
43. 09:53 PM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (Bob Leffler)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Alternate static switch |
Thanks for the tip. I went to the site and looked for TV-25P and
could not find it. Are you sure that it is not TV-2SP?
Thanks.
Rob.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 1:55 AM, Chris Johnston wrote:
> Hey all -
>
> a bit of discussion awhile back about ways to do alternate static
> air, and i promised i'd report back on my findings. The long and
> short is that the toggle valve from clippard seems to be super
> cool. seemingly, it works well with the Safeair1 static quick
> connect kit. i've blathered on about it on my site here:
>
> http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/Alternate
> %20Static%20switch.html
>
> anyway, the part# for the clippard toggle valve is the TV-2SP. I
> Haven't actually installed it and done a static system leak test or
> anything, but hopefully when i do it won't leak :)
>
> cj<winmail.dat>
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Trim troubles |
It seems to me that the two problems with the stock RV10 trim that Tim
outlines should be able to be solved with less expense than a whole new
system (no offence Tim). The resister that William Curtis suggested solves
one of them (speed), can anyone of you electronics guys design a time out
circuit that we could build and add to our Ray Allen system?
William, what value of resister are you starting with to test the system?
Gary
40274
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Curtis
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Trim troubles
Right now it is variable. Until I'm flying I won't have a specific value
for the resistor.
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
-------- Original Message --------
> X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
> Do you remember the value of the resistor? I would like to slow my trim
> in cruise as well, this looks like an inexpensive solution.
> Sam
>
> William Curtis wrote:
> > I just happen to be going over my pitch trim wiring and came to the same
conclusion. That is; if you will be installing a relay deck, replacing the
provided DPDT rocker switch with a momentary SPDT switch, simplifies the
wiring greatly. I built my own relay deck and incorporated a simple
two-speed (Normal/Cruise) switch. The switch places or removes a resister
in the power path to the servo motor.
> >
> > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/90Electrical/RV10PitchTrim.pdf
> >
> > William
> > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> >
> >
> >>> If those panel mounted switches are the rocker switches supplied by
Ray
> >>>
> >> Allen, the problem is that if you look closely at the schematic for
those
> >> switches, they ground both sides of the SPDT circuit when the rocker is
in
> >> the neutral position. This is supposed to reduce the amount of trim
motor
> >> run-on, but it perfectly skunks the possibility of having a separate
switch
> >> in parallel (ie., the one on the coolie hat) to work the flaps or trim
> >> circuit.
> >>
> >>> This little "feature" of the rocker switches caused me to have to
re-cut
> >>>
> >> the right side panel to get rid of the rectangular hole for the Ray
Allen
> >> switch, and put in a standard SPDT spring loaded switch for the panel
mount
> >> location.
> >>
> >>> -Dan Masys
> >>> RV-10 N104LD flying -==============
> >>>
> >
> >
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Alternate static switch |
The original e-mail said TV-2SP on my computer.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Kermanj [mailto:flysrv10@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Alternate static switch
Thanks for the tip. I went to the site and looked for TV-25P and
could not find it. Are you sure that it is not TV-2SP?
Thanks.
Rob.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 1:55 AM, Chris Johnston wrote:
> Hey all -
>
> a bit of discussion awhile back about ways to do alternate static
> air, and i promised i'd report back on my findings. The long and
> short is that the toggle valve from clippard seems to be super
> cool. seemingly, it works well with the Safeair1 static quick
> connect kit. i've blathered on about it on my site here:
>
> http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/Alternate
> %20Static%20switch.html
>
> anyway, the part# for the clippard toggle valve is the TV-2SP. I
> Haven't actually installed it and done a static system leak test or
> anything, but hopefully when i do it won't leak :)
>
> cj<winmail.dat>
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Alternate static switch |
Thanks. That must be it.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 8:54 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
> <jesse@saintaviation.com>
>
> The original e-mail said TV-2SP on my computer.
>
> Do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Kermanj [mailto:flysrv10@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 5:37 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Alternate static switch
>
>
> Thanks for the tip. I went to the site and looked for TV-25P and
> could not find it. Are you sure that it is not TV-2SP?
>
> Thanks.
> Rob.
>
> On Nov 2, 2007, at 1:55 AM, Chris Johnston wrote:
>
>> Hey all -
>>
>> a bit of discussion awhile back about ways to do alternate static
>> air, and i promised i'd report back on my findings. The long and
>> short is that the toggle valve from clippard seems to be super
>> cool. seemingly, it works well with the Safeair1 static quick
>> connect kit. i've blathered on about it on my site here:
>>
>> http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/Alternate
>> %20Static%20switch.html
>>
>> anyway, the part# for the clippard toggle valve is the TV-2SP. I
>> Haven't actually installed it and done a static system leak test or
>> anything, but hopefully when i do it won't leak :)
>>
>> cj<winmail.dat>
>
>
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: : RV10-List:Trim troubles and mods |
gary wrote:
>
>It seems to me that the two problems with the stock RV10 trim that Tim
>outlines should be able to be solved with less expense than a whole new
>system (no offence Tim). The resister that William Curtis suggested solves
>one of them (speed), can anyone of you electronics guys design a time out
>circuit that we could build and add to our Ray Allen system?
>
Designing the delay function is the easy part (probably 555 timer
available at Radio Shack). What function do you want to 'time out'
(incremental trim???), how long is the time (,25 second??), and what
presently controls that function (switch???)???
I have no clue (I'm not there yet) what the actual functionality of the
servo is. Does it run too fast (the resistor mod) or coast past the
wanted position???? What's the basic complaint???
Linn
>
>William, what value of resister are you starting with to test the system?
>
>Gary
>40274
>
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Dan Lloyd - Greenville, PA |
Please pray for Dan and his family.
Not many details known other than what's in the newspaper report.
http://www.sharonherald.com/homepage/local_story_306095719.html
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Dan Lloyd - Greenville, PA |
Sad to see. My sympathy to his family.
rob
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:50 AM, <rv@thelefflers.com>
<rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
>
> Please pray for Dan and his family.
>
> Not many details known other than what's in the newspaper report.
>
> http://www.sharonherald.com/homepage/local_story_306095719.html
>
>
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
It's time to pray for a family of one of our own.
Dan Lloyd crashed and was killed in his RV-10 this morning.
HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE NOT IN THE PLANE, so breathe your sigh
of relief on that point right now. They were to go for a flight
in the next hour. The plane is destroyed and Dan was killed,
however.
This is the only link I have at this time:
http://www.sharon-herald.com/
Focus your prayers on the family, as they poured themselves into
this project, and they will need all the support they can get.
This is the first known fatal in an RV-10, and it's a very sad
day for us all, especially as it involved an long-time building
friend.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
Dan's loss affects me greatly, as we were both building -10's with the same
engine. We talked many times, as recently as last week, and were planning a
trip to Minnesota later this month in his plane. Dan was always ready to
help, and anxoius to discuss the RV-10. My condolences to his family...a
sad day.
Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
RV-10 40486
Naperville, Illinois
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
It's time to pray for a family of one of our own.
Dan Lloyd crashed and was killed in his RV-10 this morning.
HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE NOT IN THE PLANE, so breathe your sigh of relief on
that point right now. They were to go for a flight in the next hour. The
plane is destroyed and Dan was killed, however.
This is the only link I have at this time:
http://www.sharon-herald.com/
Focus your prayers on the family, as they poured themselves into this
project, and they will need all the support they can get.
This is the first known fatal in an RV-10, and it's a very sad day for us
all, especially as it involved an long-time building friend.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: [Fwd: [OhioValleyRVators] Re: Greenville PA] |
Cross posting to the RV-10 list.
>
> From: "Rick" <rickgray@roadrunner.com>
> Date: 2007/11/02 Fri AM 10:27:43 EST
> To: OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] Re: Greenville PA
>
> There is more news here:
>
> http://kdka.com/topstories/plane.crash.Jamestown.2.481044.html
>
> I called the news station and they are out in the field.
>
> I also called Trish. She knows we are there for Dan, Her, and the
> kids. Right now the best way to contribute is to Pray for Dan and his
> family.
>
> Rick at the Buffalo Farm
>
>
> > Please stop what you are doing and Pray for Dan's Family.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > > http://www.sharonherald.com/homepage/local_story_306095719.html?
> > > keyword=leadpicturestory
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
I am thankful his family is okay. I spoke with Dan on more than a few
occasions and met with him in Florida in August. He was a very nice guy and
was very helpful to me and many others.
He will be missed.
..Les
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: November-02-07 9:05 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
It's time to pray for a family of one of our own.
Dan Lloyd crashed and was killed in his RV-10 this morning.
HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE NOT IN THE PLANE, so breathe your sigh
of relief on that point right now. They were to go for a flight
in the next hour. The plane is destroyed and Dan was killed,
however.
This is the only link I have at this time:
http://www.sharon-herald.com/
Focus your prayers on the family, as they poured themselves into
this project, and they will need all the support they can get.
This is the first known fatal in an RV-10, and it's a very sad
day for us all, especially as it involved an long-time building
friend.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
It is with a heavy heart that too received multiple phone calls and took
word of our loss of Dan Lloyd and his wonderful RV-10 as I departed from
work this morning. I too am so thankful his family was not aboard.
I can only pray for the family in this unfortunate time and look back
fondly at his smile and pride during Mike Sausen's picnic this summer
back in Oshkosh, as we all toasted his accomplishments and plans for the
future.
Build safe, Fly wise, seek more training, live long and remember the
best of Dan Lloyd and his gregarious and wonderful personality. Our
family is much to small not to appreciate his contributions.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:05 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
It's time to pray for a family of one of our own.
Dan Lloyd crashed and was killed in his RV-10 this morning.
HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE NOT IN THE PLANE, so breathe your sigh
of relief on that point right now. They were to go for a flight
in the next hour. The plane is destroyed and Dan was killed,
however.
This is the only link I have at this time:
http://www.sharon-herald.com/
Focus your prayers on the family, as they poured themselves into
this project, and they will need all the support they can get.
This is the first known fatal in an RV-10, and it's a very sad
day for us all, especially as it involved an long-time building
friend.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
It's amazing how a bond can be created with someone, simply from receiving
responses to questions from that person. I am rather saddened and shocked by
this news in a way that I knew this person, even though I never met him.
Godspeed Dan!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:04 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
>
> It's time to pray for a family of one of our own.
> Dan Lloyd crashed and was killed in his RV-10 this morning.
> HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE NOT IN THE PLANE, so breathe your sigh
> of relief on that point right now. They were to go for a flight
> in the next hour. The plane is destroyed and Dan was killed,
> however.
>
> This is the only link I have at this time:
> http://www.sharon-herald.com/
>
> Focus your prayers on the family, as they poured themselves into
> this project, and they will need all the support they can get.
>
> This is the first known fatal in an RV-10, and it's a very sad
> day for us all, especially as it involved an long-time building
> friend.
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
>
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
This hit me like a ton of bricks. Dan - was my friend, (I suspect
everyone who met him felt that way). He was full of enthusiasm and
encouragement. I owed him a Sundae for not being ready for Copperstate.
My last e-mail from him, forgave the debt and committed us to buy each
other sundaes to honor the completions on his planned trip out West.
I miss you Dan. Fly high.
Deems
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
Very sad day indeed. I have also talked with Dan many times and encouraged him
through his building. My sincerest condolences to Trish and his family. Let's
all try to wait until some real information comes out before there is any
speculation on what could have caused such a horrible accident.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of millstees@ameritech.net
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
Dan's loss affects me greatly, as we were both building -10's with the same
engine. We talked many times, as recently as last week, and were planning a
trip to Minnesota later this month in his plane. Dan was always ready to
help, and anxoius to discuss the RV-10. My condolences to his family...a
sad day.
Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
RV-10 40486
Naperville, Illinois
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
It's time to pray for a family of one of our own.
Dan Lloyd crashed and was killed in his RV-10 this morning.
HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE NOT IN THE PLANE, so breathe your sigh of relief on
that point right now. They were to go for a flight in the next hour. The
plane is destroyed and Dan was killed, however.
This is the only link I have at this time:
http://www.sharon-herald.com/
Focus your prayers on the family, as they poured themselves into this
project, and they will need all the support they can get.
This is the first known fatal in an RV-10, and it's a very sad day for us
all, especially as it involved an long-time building friend.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
Thanks to all on list and off list that have helped me with the Andair
Fuel Valve acquisition. I have a valve which I will use. I would like
to use a 6" extension if I can get one easily.
If anyone has a Andair Fuel Selector Extension kit you'd like to sell,
please contact me.
Current status and findings:
After much back and forth and some cancelled orders to Andair, I bought
a unit from Vans:
Part Number: FUEL VALVE FS 20X7T
Quantity: 1
Unit Price: 205.00
Part Number: F SWIVEL TEE
Quantity: 1
Unit Price: 19.50
The 20X7T seems to me to be the best configuration whether you use or
extension or not. Vans said they still had a couple of dozen. The
price is right given current exchange rates with a savings of +$100 over
ordering direct from Andair. That difference is going to filter thru to
Van's inventory at some point so I'd go buy one if in the market. The
swivel T seems to be the optimal accessory for a fuel injected 540
installation.
The feeds from the tank are on elbows but the total cross section is
considerably less than using regular AN elbows threaded into the valve
body. I feel I can use this valve pretty easily with or without an
extension. I'll post a photo once installed. Thanks to all the others
who posted photos - invaluable!
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
Just met him at Osh. Damn.
He had a great spirit and a very supportive wife & family. He's missed.
Bill
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Alternate static switch |
The switches are readily available at McMaster-Carr (McMaster.com), which is a
great store to work with and they have an incredible inventory. I just got the
6791T13 which has the plastic toggle switch. The 6791T11 and 6791T12 have the
metal switches.
I was hoping that the plastic switch would look more like the 'standard' electrical
"bat" switch. It is similar but the handle is slightly narrower and longer.
It will still look good in the panel but will need to be placed out of the
way so it isn't accidentally switched on (open).
These are a very cool solution for an alternate static switch and reasonably priced.
--------
Nick Leonard
RV-10 (40015) Finish
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143404#143404
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
A ton of bricks is right. The hardest part is thinking about how his family signed
the inside of the aircraft during construction and how proud he was of Trish
for jumping in all the way on the build. I'm lost for words, God speed Dan.
Rick Sked
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 9:12:22 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
This hit me like a ton of bricks. Dan - was my friend, (I suspect
everyone who met him felt that way). He was full of enthusiasm and
encouragement. I owed him a Sundae for not being ready for Copperstate.
My last e-mail from him, forgave the debt and committed us to buy each
other sundaes to honor the completions on his planned trip out West.
I miss you Dan. Fly high.
Deems
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
I met Dan at Osh this year and it was like meeting an old friend. I talked to him
on the phone many times since and he was always eager to share information
and give me encouragement. I liked kidding him about his paint job. I will miss
him. I will certainly be praying for his family.
Dwayne Herring
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143420#143420
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
Never met Dan, never talked to him, but he was a part of an extended family
that we've become. This just hits in the pit of your stomach. We have all
been holding our collective breaths, I believe, that this email message
would eventually be delivered, hoping it would be delayed for a long, long
time, and perhaps never come. I am so sorry it was Dan; that it would be
any one of us.
Two things that come to mind. Tomorrow, I'm going to go fly. I'm going to
get up into that wonderful sky and I'm going to say my prayer for Dan and
his family there, where the words belong. Second, I ask someone here who
knew Dan and his family, and who might gently enquire as to where I can send
a donation, to let me know. You can do it offline or let the list know.
We are having the NW RV-10 Fall dinner soon, and we will take a moment at
that time to wish Dan God Speed, as well.
John Jessen
Message 22
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's Family |
Truly tragic news.
Prayers for Dan and his family
Condolences to all
John 40315
Message 23
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's Family |
I wake to very sad news , my thoughts go out to the family.
Blue sky's Dan.
Chris 388
http://www.wpxi.com/news/14495090/detail.html?rss=burg&psp=news
Message 24
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
Dan was going to stop by sometime so that I could look at his plane.
I have this terrible thought that "If I didn't ask him, maybe it
wouldn't have happened..." Kinda silly, but can't shake the feeling.
This is the second friend of mine who has died in a crash. The first one
was on a first flight around 1995. It spooked me a bit...
I don't think I can get back to building for a while.
God Speed.
-Jim 40384
Message 25
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's Family |
This is a truly sad day for our family. Part of me knew it was inevitable
and part of me cannot believe that we have lost one of our fellow builders.
I can't imagine what it could be like for Dan's family. The pursuit that
brought him so much joy and then this. I can only hope that he had totally
experienced the thrill of accomplishment and creating his dream before
moving on. Our prayers go out to his family and all of those who feel the
loss.
John Testement
HYPERLINK "mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com"jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Painting (slowly)
do not archive
6:47 PM
Message 26
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
a sad day indeed. Dan will be missed. condolences to the family.
cj & Bethany
Message 27
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
As a group we share more than conversation and information, we share a comm
on dream and love. It is this commonality that draws us together. It also i
ncreases the pain of loss. The missing man formation has always touched som
ething inside and now it has a deeper meaning. Dan will be sorely missed bu
t not forgotten as long as we hold on to his memory.
My heart goes out to his family.
Vern
> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:01:45 -0700> From: rv10builder@verizon.net> Subj
ect: Re: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> > -
amazing how a bond can be created with someone, simply from receiving > res
ponses to questions from that person. I am rather saddened and shocked by >
this news in a way that I knew this person, even though I never met him.>
Godspeed Dan!> > Pascal> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Olson"
<Tim@MyRV10.com>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>> Sent: Friday, November 02
, 2007 8:04 AM> Subject: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family> > > > --> RV10-L
ist message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>> >> > It's time to pray f
or a family of one of our own.> > Dan Lloyd crashed and was killed in his R
V-10 this morning.> > HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE NOT IN THE PLANE, so breathe y
our sigh> > of relief on that point right now. They were to go for a flight
> > in the next hour. The plane is destroyed and Dan was killed,> > however
.> >> > This is the only link I have at this time:> > http://www.sharon-her
ald.com/> >> > Focus your prayers on the family, as they poured themselves
into> > this project, and they will need all the support they can get.> >>
> This is the first known fatal in an RV-10, and it's a very sad> > day for
us all, especially as it involved an long-time building> > friend.> >> > -
=====> > >
_________________________________________________________________
Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf=E9. Stop
by today.
http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Oc
tWLtagline
Message 28
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
Our plane was in Vans booth during OSH and I watched as Dan taxied up and parked
just behind the booth. After things settled a bit I went over and listened as
he talked to several people. I also talked to him briefly at Vans dinner. He
seemed like a gentle soul.
Condolences to the family and those that knew him well.
Bill & Sara DeRouchey
N939SB, flying (in denial?)
Chris Johnston <CJohnston@popsound.com> wrote:
a sad day indeed. Dan will be missed. condolences to the family.
cj & Bethany
Message 29
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
My heart goes out to Dan's family. My prayers are with them. He truly was
a pioneer in the RV-10 world and a friend. I believe N256H was the first
RV-10 he sat in down in Dunnellon in November of '05.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
Message 30
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
I too am saddened by the loss of Dan. I don't think I ever met him, but
like many others I felt I knew him. He was part of our extended
family. So, to remember Dan, I went through my archives and read many
of his posts. He sure did contribute and help many of us.
So as a tribute, below are a collection of his emails.
*To start off, here is is last post to the list, from yesterday:*
On mine the cups went up about halfway, and the springs really had to be
compressed to fit at all. I made the angle spacers, and tried to screw
everything together repeatedly before I finally figured out how to get
it all to work. The easy way to do it, is to put all three through the
face plate and set it on the bench, put springs on the screws, backing
plate on, and compress the springs until they just seat in the nut
plates. Then this is the hard part, slide the whole assembly to the side
of the bench and as one screw is exposed get a screwdriver on it and
hold the pressure. Do this for each of the three and it works. The hard
part is then getting the angle spacers to line up, but work with it.
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
*Did anyone at OSH this year take Dan up on use of his wife's Expedition:*
We will have our Expedition, and will be happy to coordinate picking
your stuff up and moving it back and forth for you.
Dan
The RV10 is large, but it does not have a trailer hitch, and the pop-up
is too big to fit into the baggage area, so because we will be there the
whole week my wife offered to drive up and meet us there.
I SHOULD be there with the RV10E and the Expedition.
Dan
Keep in mind I am a glutinous American, so why only take one, I will be
taking both the RV10E and the Expedition, it is my right to burn as much
fuel as possible on a trip!
Dan
Maintenance crew, now you are funny, it is to carry the cotton baby
diapers to wipe off all the drool and fingerprints everyone will be
putting on it!
Dan
*Dan sure did love his RV-10
Here's one from transition training, which was his first flight in the 10*
Hey guys,
I have spent the past day out in Oregon with Mike Seager and flying the
factory 10. I now have 3 hours in type and 15 landings. I have two more
days to fly with him and try and get my mind wrapped around this fast
bird. I know many of you have 4/6/7/8 time, and the 10 is not the same,
but all I can say is WOOHOO! Put the throttle in and it instantly leaps
in the air, blink and we are passing through 2k ft. We flew North and
trued out over 200MPH,
did I say this plane is incredible?? 2.5 years and I am in the home
stretch, and I can not wait to fly my own, and finally report my first
flight.
I know it sounds funny, but we chose to build the 10 without ever having
been in one, and all of expectations have been met and exceeded. For
those of you in the same boat as myself, 150 hrs in SPAM cans, I can not
stress the value of transition training and spending the time necessary
to get used to these planes. Things are happening so fast that it is
difficult at first, but after several hours with Mike I am starting to
feel that with a couple hundred more I might make an RV pilot. One thing
that I find very funny is that I have heard about P-factor and the need
for right rudder, and thought I knew about it, but the first time you
put the throttle to 260 HP you quickly realize what you had no clue
about!!! Get the transition training so you are ready.
While I have been out here I have met a couple of the guys and toured
Vans factory, too cool to say the least. But other than flying the 10,
the most memorable part of the trip is the hospitality of Ed Hayden, he
helped me around town, and took an afternoon to show me his project.
What a plane, all the bell's and whistles and then some! I can not wait
to reciprocate when he comes to town. It is the builder community that
makes this so much fun and Ed is a pillar of the community making us
feel welcome!
THX
Dan Lloyd
N289DT RV10E Finally I can say finishing up!!!
...BUT with everything being said about costs, planning and such, lets keep
in the perspective that there is not a better feeling than the first
time you take off in a plane you built in your garage, it makes
everything else a mute point. No matter what you have to do, collect
aluminum cans if you have to! Build one and fly it, it is definitely
worth the heartache and frustration along the way!
Dan
N289DT RV10E flying
*Dan encoring us on:*
Congrats Tom, and we look forward to hearing about your progress. If you
want to have your wife talk to Trish feel free to call and they can
brainstorm on how each team member can participate. Each of our kids got
to sign the inside of every structure they worked on, with name, date
and age. Even the younger kids can participate by handing tools, sorting
pieces etc.
Give us a call, and I would be happy to fly up and give you guys some
motivational rides and get everyone excited about the adventure ahead!
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
*Here's one for you Deems:*
Hang in there Deems, you are getting close! After 10.6 hours and 68
landings logged, I can say this plane is worth it. It will be everything
you wanted and more. Now I just need to get home and git'r'done too. I
heard you were coming up to the dinner in a couple of weeks, make sure
to get Randy and others to give you a ride for motivation. This is when
you need it most to get you over the hump!
Dan "starting the up hill push to finish"
N289DT RV10E
*and the last one, Dan asking us to be safe:*
You need to be careful on this, allot of people follow this list and
read your recommendations on both safety of flight issues, as well as
equipage for IFR, but they do not know you do not have a pilots license
and do not have any IMC time, to make this type of comment could lead
allot of low time pilots to believe that they can get by without
training. When I got the transition training from Mike and let him
review your comment he stated that even he, as the pilot with the "most
RV time around" would not get into a new plane and fly when/if there is
transition training available, even he would take several hours and
learn the intricacies of the new plane.
I can not stress the value of transition training enough, regardless of
how much time you have, this is why most insurance agencies will not
insure without dual time. We do not want to end up like the Lancair guys
and have our insurance so high it is unaffordable. We are building plans
valued north of $100k and in the scheme of things transition training is
a very low cost item to help ensure a successful first flight.
Dan Lloyd
N289DT
RV10E
*Godspeed Dan!*
Larry Rosen
RV-10 #356
N205EN (reserved)
Message 31
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
I'm simply lost for words.
It is a sad day indeed, and my thoughts and best wishes are with his family.
Ron
"Warning:
The information contained in this email and any attached files is
confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended
recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any
attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email
in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been
taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free,
however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the
sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus
checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to
your computer."
Message 32
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
I am a new builder and did not know Dan.
This is truly a sad day for all of us
Our Prayers are with his family
Joe and Marcia Rhodes
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
It's time to pray for a family of one of our own.
Dan Lloyd crashed and was killed in his RV-10 this morning.
HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE NOT IN THE PLANE, so breathe your sigh
of relief on that point right now. They were to go for a flight
in the next hour. The plane is destroyed and Dan was killed,
however.
This is the only link I have at this time:
http://www.sharon-herald.com/
Focus your prayers on the family, as they poured themselves into
this project, and they will need all the support they can get.
This is the first known fatal in an RV-10, and it's a very sad
day for us all, especially as it involved an long-time building
friend.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Message 33
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
I, too, never met Dan in person, but his encouragement towards the build, his enthusiasm
for aviation, made an impact on me. I wish I could have met up with
him as he was traveling to Dana's gig one day some time ago, but my scheduling
would not allow it. My loss. I understand he was big into the electronics and
toys of aviation that we all wish we knew more about. Condolences to his family
and his friends.
We are a smaller world today...
Jim
---- Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> It's amazing how a bond can be created with someone, simply from receiving
> responses to questions from that person. I am rather saddened and shocked by
> this news in a way that I knew this person, even though I never met him.
> Godspeed Dan!
>
> Pascal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:04 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
>
>
> >
> > It's time to pray for a family of one of our own.
> > Dan Lloyd crashed and was killed in his RV-10 this morning.
> > HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE NOT IN THE PLANE, so breathe your sigh
> > of relief on that point right now. They were to go for a flight
> > in the next hour. The plane is destroyed and Dan was killed,
> > however.
> >
> > This is the only link I have at this time:
> > http://www.sharon-herald.com/
> >
> > Focus your prayers on the family, as they poured themselves into
> > this project, and they will need all the support they can get.
> >
> > This is the first known fatal in an RV-10, and it's a very sad
> > day for us all, especially as it involved an long-time building
> > friend.
> >
> > --
> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
Message 34
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
I, too, never met Dan in person, but his encouragement towards the build, his enthusiasm
for aviation, made an impact on me. I wish I could have met up with
him as he was traveling to Dana's gig one day some time ago, but my scheduling
would not allow it. My loss. I understand he was big into the electronics and
toys of aviation that we all wish we knew more about. Condolences to his family
and his friends.
We are a smaller world today...
Jim
---- Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> It's amazing how a bond can be created with someone, simply from receiving
> responses to questions from that person. I am rather saddened and shocked by
> this news in a way that I knew this person, even though I never met him.
> Godspeed Dan!
>
> Pascal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:04 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
>
>
> >
> > It's time to pray for a family of one of our own.
> > Dan Lloyd crashed and was killed in his RV-10 this morning.
> > HIS WIFE AND KIDS WERE NOT IN THE PLANE, so breathe your sigh
> > of relief on that point right now. They were to go for a flight
> > in the next hour. The plane is destroyed and Dan was killed,
> > however.
> >
> > This is the only link I have at this time:
> > http://www.sharon-herald.com/
> >
> > Focus your prayers on the family, as they poured themselves into
> > this project, and they will need all the support they can get.
> >
> > This is the first known fatal in an RV-10, and it's a very sad
> > day for us all, especially as it involved an long-time building
> > friend.
> >
> > --
> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
Message 35
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Representation at Dan's Funeral |
First of all I would like to say that I was fortunate to meet Dan in person
last year at Oshkosh and we are all lesser for this loss. Dan was a larger
than life ambassador for all of the builders out there who were looking a
t alternative engines to power our RV-10s. He was quick with the help and d
idn't ask anything in return. Both Lucy and I will miss him.=0A=0AWhat we a
s a group need to be looking into shortly is how to support Trisha and the
kids through the next few days and the funeral. Who of you out there lives
close to Dan's home town and is able to attend the funeral? We need to be
able to represent the multitude of us who cannot attend. It will be very im
portant to Trisha that she knows that she has an extended family who are gr
ieving along side her.=0A=0ACan anyone provide me with Dan's home address s
o that I can get a sympathy card in the mail? I would also appreciate the f
uneral details so that flowers can be arranged. What do you think about an
arrangement from the matronics group?=0A=0ADave and Lucy Hertner=0A=0A=0A
Message 36
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Dan Lloyd - Greenville, PA |
This is truly the most sad news I have heard since I started my project. It
is a tragedy in every way.
Dan contributed hugely to this list which has been instrumental to countless
RV-10's. It is at least nice to know that a little bit of Dan will live on
in many RV-10s where the builders have applied something from his
experiences. Mine is certainly in that list.
I am sure that when mine is flying, he will be in my thoughts often.
I wish his family all the support they need to get through this extremely
difficult time as best they may. They will all be in my prayers.
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
rv@thelefflers.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:51 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Dan Lloyd - Greenville, PA
Please pray for Dan and his family.
Not many details known other than what's in the newspaper report.
http://www.sharonherald.com/homepage/local_story_306095719.html
Message 37
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Representation at Dan's Funeral |
I am shocked, saddened and join all of you in prayers for Dan and his
family.
We exchanged a few emails as late as last evening. Dan was an active
member of the large Ohio Valley RVators group. They have been in
contact with Trish and I am sure Rick Gray will keep us informed.
Dan will be missed.
Dick Sipp
----- Original Message -----
From: effectus@rogers.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Representation at Dan's Funeral
First of all I would like to say that I was fortunate to meet Dan in
person last year at Oshkosh and we are all lesser for this loss. Dan was
a larger than life ambassador for all of the builders out there who
were looking at alternative engines to power our RV-10s. He was quick
with the help and didn't ask anything in return. Both Lucy and I will
miss him.
Message 38
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Representation at Dan's Funeral |
I think an arrangement from the group would be great. Count me in for
whatever you need$$$$.
I did not get a chance to meet Dan, but feel I know him through his postings
to the list. I wish the best for his family.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
40322
801-721-6080
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
effectus@rogers.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Representation at Dan's Funeral
First of all I would like to say that I was fortunate to meet Dan in person
last year at Oshkosh and we are all lesser for this loss. Dan was a larger
than life ambassador for all of the builders out there who were looking at
alternative engines to power our RV-10s. He was quick with the help and
didn't ask anything in return. Both Lucy and I will miss him.
What we as a group need to be looking into shortly is how to support Trisha
and the kids through the next few days and the funeral. Who of you out
there lives close to Dan's home town and is able to attend the funeral? We
need to be able to represent the multitude of us who cannot attend. It will
be very important to Trisha that she knows that she has an extended family
who are grieving along side her.
Can anyone provide me with Dan's home address so that I can get a sympathy
card in the mail? I would also appreciate the funeral details so that
flowers can be arranged. What do you think about an arrangement from the
matronics group?
Dave and Lucy Hertner
Message 39
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
Larry - what a wonderful tribute to Dan's perpetual spirit. I can still
remember his big smile, the pride of completion and the times we shared
discussing mods to make this kit even better for many. Here are two
pictures which capture just a glimpse (for those who missed out). I
even found postings that we shared below the radar screen on the use of
Solidworks. He was always willing to discuss, to share and to dream
together. He could often be found in a "Flying High Sky" blue or
"Arrest Me for Dreaming" red t-shirt.
<<Dan and his plane.pdf>> "Hiding with pride behind the VANS tent"
"Lloyd, Daniel R." <lloyddr@wernerco.com> wrote:
I have this scanned at work full size, I also have the
engineers
upstairs putting together a Solid Works model of it, so
we can wrap
custom skins on it, then you will be able to see what
your paint job
will look like.
I traded flight hours for their lunch time to create it,
I will post it
when it is done for all to use. Also we have an artist
that will render
it for you in a custom setting.
If anyone wants the full-size drawing in PDF, I would be
happy to send
it, you can then take it down to Kinko's and make
posters to your hearts
desire.
Bio: 34, IT Manager for Werner Ladder, PP-SEL,
Instrument Student, 150
Hours TT, Cherokee Driver, till 10 is done. Based in
Hermitage, PA. It
is on the Ohio Border, 1 hour North of PITT. Have 2
Kids, 11 and 6, not
adding any more, (they do not make a larger kit plane!)
Finishing Emp/Cone, have wings ready to start.
I agree with Tim, seems like a lot of geeks are into
plane building,
maybe we like the many hours of alone time in the
garage?
What do you need on solid works? We use it here at
Werner and have 20 seats. Let me know Dan
I also agree with what is here. I am looking at an
alternative engine, and am very interested in exploring this avenue.
Things that would motivate me are test cell running to prove TBO, and
number of Aircraft installed on, I realize to break into the market
place you would need Beta testers, I am willing to do that beta testing,
but would be have to be at manufactures expense. If I am willing to use
my airframe, the least they could do is provide the engine for testing/
proof of concept. Dan 40269
<<Dan and the gang.pdf>> "Sharing in the group builder discussions at
Camp Condrey - OSH '07"
I will continue to cling to the memory of his infectious smile as we
talked confidentially of renegade builders, unusual techniques and bold
ideas for many product improvements. He was my idea of a REAL
Experimental/Amateur Aircraft Builder with passion in his every breath
and the desire to make another step to "Living the Dream".
John Cox - KUAO (#40600) I am forever making November 1st - Dan Lloyd
Day
I too am saddened by the loss of Dan. I don't think I ever met him, but
like many others I felt I knew him. He was part of our extended
family. So, to remember Dan, I went through my archives and read many
of his posts. He sure did contribute and help many of us.
So as a tribute, below are a collection of his emails.
*To start off, here is is last post to the list, from yesterday:*
On mine the cups went up about halfway, and the springs really had to be
compressed to fit at all. I made the angle spacers, and tried to screw
everything together repeatedly before I finally figured out how to get
it all to work. The easy way to do it, is to put all three through the
face plate and set it on the bench, put springs on the screws, backing
plate on, and compress the springs until they just seat in the nut
plates. Then this is the hard part, slide the whole assembly to the side
of the bench and as one screw is exposed get a screwdriver on it and
hold the pressure. Do this for each of the three and it works. The hard
part is then getting the angle spacers to line up, but work with it.
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
*Did anyone at OSH this year take Dan up on use of his wife's
Expedition:*
We will have our Expedition, and will be happy to coordinate picking
your stuff up and moving it back and forth for you.
Dan
The RV10 is large, but it does not have a trailer hitch, and the pop-up
is too big to fit into the baggage area, so because we will be there the
whole week my wife offered to drive up and meet us there.
I SHOULD be there with the RV10E and the Expedition.
Dan
Keep in mind I am a glutinous American, so why only take one, I will be
taking both the RV10E and the Expedition, it is my right to burn as much
fuel as possible on a trip!
Dan
Maintenance crew, now you are funny, it is to carry the cotton baby
diapers to wipe off all the drool and fingerprints everyone will be
putting on it!
Dan
*Dan sure did love his RV-10
Here's one from transition training, which was his first flight in the
10*
Hey guys,
I have spent the past day out in Oregon with Mike Seager and flying the
factory 10. I now have 3 hours in type and 15 landings. I have two more
days to fly with him and try and get my mind wrapped around this fast
bird. I know many of you have 4/6/7/8 time, and the 10 is not the same,
but all I can say is WOOHOO! Put the throttle in and it instantly leaps
in the air, blink and we are passing through 2k ft. We flew North and
trued out over 200MPH,
did I say this plane is incredible?? 2.5 years and I am in the home
stretch, and I can not wait to fly my own, and finally report my first
flight.
I know it sounds funny, but we chose to build the 10 without ever having
been in one, and all of expectations have been met and exceeded. For
those of you in the same boat as myself, 150 hrs in SPAM cans, I can not
stress the value of transition training and spending the time necessary
to get used to these planes. Things are happening so fast that it is
difficult at first, but after several hours with Mike I am starting to
feel that with a couple hundred more I might make an RV pilot. One thing
that I find very funny is that I have heard about P-factor and the need
for right rudder, and thought I knew about it, but the first time you
put the throttle to 260 HP you quickly realize what you had no clue
about!!! Get the transition training so you are ready.
While I have been out here I have met a couple of the guys and toured
Vans factory, too cool to say the least. But other than flying the 10,
the most memorable part of the trip is the hospitality of Ed Hayden, he
helped me around town, and took an afternoon to show me his project.
What a plane, all the bell's and whistles and then some! I can not wait
to reciprocate when he comes to town. It is the builder community that
makes this so much fun and Ed is a pillar of the community making us
feel welcome!
THX
Dan Lloyd
N289DT RV10E Finally I can say finishing up!!!
...BUT with everything being said about costs, planning and such, lets
keep
in the perspective that there is not a better feeling than the first
time you take off in a plane you built in your garage, it makes
everything else a mute point. No matter what you have to do, collect
aluminum cans if you have to! Build one and fly it, it is definitely
worth the heartache and frustration along the way!
Dan
N289DT RV10E flying
*Dan encoring us on:*
Congrats Tom, and we look forward to hearing about your progress. If you
want to have your wife talk to Trish feel free to call and they can
brainstorm on how each team member can participate. Each of our kids got
to sign the inside of every structure they worked on, with name, date
and age. Even the younger kids can participate by handing tools, sorting
pieces etc.
Give us a call, and I would be happy to fly up and give you guys some
motivational rides and get everyone excited about the adventure ahead!
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
*Here's one for you Deems:*
Hang in there Deems, you are getting close! After 10.6 hours and 68
landings logged, I can say this plane is worth it. It will be everything
you wanted and more. Now I just need to get home and git'r'done too. I
heard you were coming up to the dinner in a couple of weeks, make sure
to get Randy and others to give you a ride for motivation. This is when
you need it most to get you over the hump!
Dan "starting the up hill push to finish"
N289DT RV10E
*and the last one, Dan asking us to be safe:*
You need to be careful on this, allot of people follow this list and
read your recommendations on both safety of flight issues, as well as
equipage for IFR, but they do not know you do not have a pilots license
and do not have any IMC time, to make this type of comment could lead
allot of low time pilots to believe that they can get by without
training. When I got the transition training from Mike and let him
review your comment he stated that even he, as the pilot with the "most
RV time around" would not get into a new plane and fly when/if there is
transition training available, even he would take several hours and
learn the intricacies of the new plane.
I can not stress the value of transition training enough, regardless of
how much time you have, this is why most insurance agencies will not
insure without dual time. We do not want to end up like the Lancair guys
and have our insurance so high it is unaffordable. We are building plans
valued north of $100k and in the scheme of things transition training is
a very low cost item to help ensure a successful first flight.
Dan Lloyd
N289DT
RV10E
*Godspeed Dan!*
Larry Rosen
RV-10 #356
N205EN (reserved)
Message 40
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Representation at Dan's Funeral |
Airmen Database Search Result
________________________________
Name : LLOYD, DANIEL RAYMOND
Airman's Address : 3249 TIMBER LN
HERMITAGE, PA, 16148-6033
FAA Region : Eastern
Date of Medical : Mar, 2006
Class of Medical : 3
Expiration of Class 3 : Mar, 2009
Airman Certificates : Private Pilot
Airplane Single Engine Land
Repairman, experimental aircraft builder
In care of: Trish Lloyd and Family.
Whoever lives close speak up. I will contribute $$ as well. We are one
BIG family.
John & Tana Cox
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Representation at Dan's Funeral
I think an arrangement from the group would be great. Count me in for
whatever you need$$$$.
I did not get a chance to meet Dan, but feel I know him through his
postings to the list. I wish the best for his family.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
40322
801-721-6080
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
effectus@rogers.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Representation at Dan's Funeral
First of all I would like to say that I was fortunate to meet Dan in
person last year at Oshkosh and we are all lesser for this loss. Dan was
a larger than life ambassador for all of the builders out there who
were looking at alternative engines to power our RV-10s. He was quick
with the help and didn't ask anything in return. Both Lucy and I will
miss him.
What we as a group need to be looking into shortly is how to support
Trisha and the kids through the next few days and the funeral. Who of
you out there lives close to Dan's home town and is able to attend the
funeral? We need to be able to represent the multitude of us who cannot
attend. It will be very important to Trisha that she knows that she has
an extended family who are grieving along side her.
Can anyone provide me with Dan's home address so that I can get a
sympathy card in the mail? I would also appreciate the funeral details
so that flowers can be arranged. What do you think about an arrangement
from the matronics group?
Dave and Lucy Hertner
Message 41
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Thinking of Dan's Family |
Does anyone know if there is a Community Foundation in Dan's home town that
would accept contributions in memory of Dan or even better yet be willing
to set up a scholarship fund for his children?
MARK
RV-10/N410MR
<html><div></div>
_________________________________________________________________
!
ilnews
Message 42
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Representation at Dan's Funeral |
I would suggest we all make the effort to send at least a card to the
family, nothing speaks louder than to receive hundreds of cards of
sympathy with something nice to say about a lost one.. Shouldn't be hard
to do for Dan.
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: John W. Cox
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Representation at Dan's Funeral
Airmen Database Search Result
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
Name : LLOYD, DANIEL RAYMONDAirman's Address :
3249 TIMBER LN HERMITAGE, PA, 16148-6033FAA
Region : EasternDate of Medical : Mar, 2006Class of
Medical : 3Expiration of Class 3 : Mar, 2009Airman Certificates :
Private Pilot Airplane Single Engine Land
Repairman, experimental aircraft builder In care of:
Trish Lloyd and Family.
Whoever lives close speak up. I will contribute $$ as well. We are
one BIG family.
John & Tana Cox
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 5:04 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Representation at Dan's Funeral
I think an arrangement from the group would be great. Count me in for
whatever you need$$$$.
I did not get a chance to meet Dan, but feel I know him through his
postings to the list. I wish the best for his family.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
40322
801-721-6080
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
effectus@rogers.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 5:46 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Representation at Dan's Funeral
First of all I would like to say that I was fortunate to meet Dan in
person last year at Oshkosh and we are all lesser for this loss. Dan was
a larger than life ambassador for all of the builders out there who
were looking at alternative engines to power our RV-10s. He was quick
with the help and didn't ask anything in return. Both Lucy and I will
miss him.
What we as a group need to be looking into shortly is how to support
Trisha and the kids through the next few days and the funeral. Who of
you out there lives close to Dan's home town and is able to attend the
funeral? We need to be able to represent the multitude of us who cannot
attend. It will be very important to Trisha that she knows that she has
an extended family who are grieving along side her.
Can anyone provide me with Dan's home address so that I can get a
sympathy card in the mail? I would also appreciate the funeral details
so that flowers can be arranged. What do you think about an arrangement
from the matronics group?
Dave and Lucy Hertner
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com
Message 43
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pray for Dan's family |
Both my son and I took Dan up on his offer. He was gracious enough to offer
us a ride to Michael Sausen's house at OSH. While I met Dan and his family
the week before in Greenville as he was finishing his RV-10, we got to know
the family better on the hour drive to Michael's.
His last email to me on Wednesday was:
"I would definitely knock out the fiberglass as you go, I waited to the end
and was so fed up with it that I got bummed out and am still avoiding the
tail. One thing to make sure of, that I saw during Rick's build and mine is
that the Elevator horn fairings do not line up well and require work on the
trailing edge, so fix these by cutting them flush on the trailing edge and
feathering in and taping the line all the way around. I saw how Rick did it
and will do the same on mine. I do not like that transition between the
fairing and the elevator, so I am going to hide it "
Our prayers are with Dan and his family.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Pray for Dan's family
*Did anyone at OSH this year take Dan up on use of his wife's Expedition:*
We will have our Expedition, and will be happy to coordinate picking
your stuff up and moving it back and forth for you.
Dan
The RV10 is large, but it does not have a trailer hitch, and the pop-up
is too big to fit into the baggage area, so because we will be there the
whole week my wife offered to drive up and meet us there.
I SHOULD be there with the RV10E and the Expedition.
Dan
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|