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0. 12:25 AM - List Fund Raiser (Matt Dralle)
1. 03:19 AM - Re: Pray for Dan's family (Dsyvert@aol.com)
2. 04:37 AM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (Tim Olson)
3. 05:42 AM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (Jesse Saint)
4. 05:48 AM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (cloudvalley@comcast.net)
5. 05:52 AM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (James Hein)
6. 05:56 AM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (Tim Olson)
7. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (Tim Olson)
8. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (Jesse Saint)
9. 07:27 AM - Anyone have a photo of Dan and his plane they could share? (James Hein)
10. 10:14 AM - Re: Anyone have a photo of Dan and his plane they could share? (Steve Mills)
11. 12:17 PM - Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (Eric_Kallio)
12. 02:34 PM - Re: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (MauleDriver)
13. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (Tim Olson)
14. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (Jay Rowe)
15. 03:07 PM - cowl fitting tips. (David McNeill)
16. 04:46 PM - Re: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (Kyrilian Dyer)
17. 05:31 PM - engine hoist (shop crane) (orchidman)
18. 05:42 PM - Re: engine hoist (shop crane) (Tim Olson)
19. 05:56 PM - Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit (William Curtis)
20. 06:00 PM - Re: engine hoist (shop crane) (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
21. 06:07 PM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Vernon Smith)
22. 06:12 PM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Jesse Saint)
23. 06:13 PM - Re: engine hoist (shop crane) (Jesse Saint)
24. 06:30 PM - Re: Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit (David McNeill)
25. 06:37 PM - Re: engine hoist (shop crane) (David McNeill)
26. 06:38 PM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Jesse Saint)
27. 06:40 PM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Marcus Cooper)
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| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. I've
got a bunch of really nice incentive gifts this year. There's really something
for everyone!
Please make a Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
I only knew Dan through this list and meeting him at OSH this summer. Both
on the list and in person, I could tell he was a very unique person. A famo
us
poem by Robert Frost comes to mind that is called "The Road Less Traveled".
The last part of the poem is:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I =94
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
Everyone who builds these planes goes takes "a road less traveled". Dan too
k
it to another level. This is a great loss in many respects. I will pray for
his family.
Dave Syvertson
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| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
Reposted from the VAF site:
Tim
do not archive
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Brian, and all, I am sharing this from Rick Gray on the Ohio Valley
RVators list:
Hi Folks,
I don't have all the details yet and probably won't till late
tomorrow or Monday at the earliest.
I spoke to one of the Funeral Homes in Dan's hometown this evening.
She said that she has a record of 68 Funeral Homes in the area and
Dan wasn't listed as of late this evening. I was told that under the
circumstances the Funeral could be as late as Wednesday or Thursday.
Anyway, she told me to call back tomorrow so I will and will report
back as soon as I know more.
That said, general concensus from the group today was to send a
tree/flowers for Dan. I will call tomorrow but doubt the Florists
will be open so most likely Monday morning. The tree/flower
arrangement will be from The Ohio Valley RVators. If you want to
send something that is 'just from you'.....I'll be posting the
address for the Funeral Home as soon as I have it.
We're also going to take up a collection. I'll be the contact and
will deduct for the tree/flowers then forward the rest per Trish's
wishes.
We also agreed that we'd like to hold a little grass roots fly-in in
Dan's memory. I'll contact the Greenville Airport where Dan flew out
of in the near future and see if they'll help out.
For those wishing to give....I'll be collecting the donations then
will forward it as mentioned above. My mailing address is:
Rick Gray
200 Baker Trail
Vincent, Ohio 45784
For those of you wishing to send a card or letter to Trish, here is
the mailing address:
Daniel (Dan) R. Lloyd
3249 Timer Lane
Hermitage, Pa 16148
As far as a Missing Man ceremony for Dan. I won't know till I talk to
Trish.
Dan had a LOT of friends in the RV community. Please feel free to
share what we're doing with any of the various groups such as Doug
Reeves site and the Matronics RV10 list.
I realize that this doesn't cover all the bases but I think it's a
good starting point.
Any questions, comments, or suggestions are appreciated.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
__________________
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7, "Black Magic"
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com
O-360 A1A C/S
VAF #993
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| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
Did Dan ever finish getting his plane painted? If so, does anybody have a
good picture of it?
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
Hi Tim,
Thank you. I am not sure but you could have meant a differnet Brian. I have not
said much here lately.We have not sold our house yet, but we will move to Ohio
when it does..we hope. Sorry to hear about Dan..
Brian Preston
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Reposted from the VAF site:
>
> Tim
> do not archive
>
>
> -------------
>
> Brian, and all, I am sharing this from Rick Gray on the Ohio Valley
> RVators list:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I don't have all the details yet and probably won't till late
> tomorrow or Monday at the earliest.
>
> I spoke to one of the Funeral Homes in Dan's hometown this evening.
> She said that she has a record of 68 Funeral Homes in the area and
> Dan wasn't listed as of late this evening. I was told that under the
> circumstances the Funeral could be as late as Wednesday or Thursday.
> Anyway, she told me to call back tomorrow so I will and will report
> back as soon as I know more.
>
> That said, general concensus from the group today was to send a
> tree/flowers for Dan. I will call tomorrow but doubt the Florists
> will be open so most likely Monday morning. The tree/flower
> arrangement will be from The Ohio Valley RVators. If you want to
> send something that is 'just from you'.....I'll be posting the
> address for the Funeral Home as soon as I have it.
>
> We're also going to take up a collection. I'll be the contact and
> will deduct for the tree/flowers then forward the rest per Trish's
> wishes.
>
> We also agreed that we'd like to hold a little grass roots fly-in in
> Dan's memory. I'll contact the Greenville Airport where Dan flew out
> of in the near future and see if they'll help out.
>
> For those wishing to give....I'll be collecting the donations then
> will forward it as mentioned above. My mailing address is:
>
> Rick Gray
> 200 Baker Trail
> Vincent, Ohio 45784
>
> For those of you wishing to send a card or letter to Trish, here is
> the mailing address:
>
> Daniel (Dan) R. Lloyd
> 3249 Timer Lane
> Hermitage, Pa 16148
>
> As far as a Missing Man ceremony for Dan. I won't know till I talk to
> Trish.
>
> Dan had a LOT of friends in the RV community. Please feel free to
> share what we're doing with any of the various groups such as Doug
> Reeves site and the Matronics RV10 list.
>
> I realize that this doesn't cover all the bases but I think it's a
> good starting point.
>
> Any questions, comments, or suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Rick at the Buffalo Farm
> __________________
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY i39
> RV-7, "Black Magic"
> http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
> O-360 A1A C/S
> VAF #993
>
>
>
>
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<DIV>Hi Tim,</DIV>
<DIV> Thank you. I am not sure but you could have meant a differnet Brian.
I have not said much here lately.We have not sold our house yet, but we will
move to Ohio when it does..we hope. Sorry to hear about Dan..</DIV>
<DIV>Brian Preston</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
<BR><BR>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
<TIM@MYRV10.COM><BR>> <BR>> Reposted from the VAF site: <BR>> <BR>>
Tim <BR>> do not archive <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------- <BR>>
<BR>> Brian, and all, I am sharing this from Rick Gray on the Ohio Valley
<BR>> RVators list: <BR>> <BR>> Hi Folks, <BR>> <BR>> I don't
have all the details yet and probably won't till late <BR>> tomorrow or Monday
at the earliest. <BR>> <BR>> I spoke to one of the Funeral Homes in
Dan's hometown this evening. <BR>> She said that she has a record of 68 Funeral
Homes in the area and <BR>> Dan wasn't listed as of late this evening.
I was told that under the <BR>> circumstances the Funeral could be as late
as Wednesday or Thursday. <BR>> Anyway, she tol
d me t
o call back tomorrow so I will and will report <BR>> back as soon as I know
more. <BR>> <BR>> That said, general concensus from the group today was
to send a <BR>> tree/flowers for Dan. I will call tomorrow but doubt the Florists
<BR>> will be open so most likely Monday morning. The tree/flower <BR>>
arrangement will be from The Ohio Valley RVators. If you want to <BR>>
send something that is 'just from you'.....I'll be posting the <BR>> address
for the Funeral Home as soon as I have it. <BR>> <BR>> We're also going
to take up a collection. I'll be the contact and <BR>> will deduct for
the tree/flowers then forward the rest per Trish's <BR>> wishes. <BR>>
<BR>> We also agreed that we'd like to hold a little grass roots fly-in in
<BR>> Dan's memory. I'll contact the Greenville Airport where Dan flew out
<BR>> of in the near future and see if they'll help out. <BR>> <BR>>
For those wishing to give....I'll be collecting the d
onatio
ns then <BR>> will forward it as mentioned above. My mailing address is: <BR>>
<BR>> Rick Gray <BR>> 200 Baker Trail <BR>> Vincent, Ohio 45784
<BR>> <BR>> For those of you wishing to send a card or letter to Trish,
here is <BR>> the mailing address: <BR>> <BR>> Daniel (Dan) R. Lloyd
<BR>> 3249 Timer Lane <BR>> Hermitage, Pa 16148 <BR>> <BR>> As far
as a Missing Man ceremony for Dan. I won't know till I talk to <BR>> Trish.
<BR>> <BR>> Dan had a LOT of friends in the RV community. Please feel
free to <BR>> share what we're doing with any of the various groups such as
Doug <BR>> Reeves site and the Matronics RV10 list. <BR>> <BR>> I realize
that this doesn't cover all the bases but I think it's a <BR>> good
starting point. <BR>> <BR>> Any questions, comments, or suggestions are
appreciated. <BR>> <BR>> Rick at the Buffalo Farm <BR>> __________________
<BR>> Dana Overall <BR>> Richmond, KY i39
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| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
The wings were painted, but the fuselage was not.
He was at Oshkosh, so there must be thousands of photos... Also there's
the video on www.eggenfellneraircraft.com of his plane.
Maybe we should construct our own "photo album" of the pictures we took
with comments and then send to Trish and the kids?
-Jim 40384
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
>Did Dan ever finish getting his plane painted? If so, does anybody have a
>good picture of it?
>
>Do not archive
>
>Jesse Saint
>Saint Aviation, Inc.
>jesse@saintaviation.com
>www.saintaviation.com
>Cell: 352-427-0285
>Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
No, it never got more than what was at OSH.
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> Did Dan ever finish getting his plane painted? If so, does anybody have a
> good picture of it?
>
> Do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
Here is another repost to correct the address:
***************
Please change the address for Dan Lloyd in the above post to read:
3249 Timber Lane
instead of 3249 Timer Lane - the 'b' was left off
***************
--
Tim
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
Does anybody know if he had shared his desired paint scheme? Does anybody
think it would be inappropriate to get a model of it made for Trish? Maybe
something to go with the photo album from the RV10-List to Trish.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Pray for Dan's family
No, it never got more than what was at OSH.
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> Did Dan ever finish getting his plane painted? If so, does anybody have a
> good picture of it?
>
> Do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>
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| Subject: | Anyone have a photo of Dan and his plane they could share? |
Does anyone have a photo of Dan, Family, and his plane?
My construction log is more like a journal of everything related to the
RV-10 and my build. This event has affected me more than I would have
imagined, and will probably have an ongoing effect on my build so he's
getting an entry in my build journal.
(High res photos please; Feel free to send directly to my email address
off-list)
Thanks in advance
-Jim 40384
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone have a photo of Dan and his plane they could share? |
go to the news section of Eggenfellneraircraft.com
Does anyone have a photo of Dan, Family, and his plane?
My construction log is more like a journal of everything related to the
RV-10 and my build. This event has affected me more than I would have
imagined, and will probably have an ongoing effect on my build so he's
getting an entry in my build journal.
(High res photos please; Feel free to send directly to my email address
off-list)
Thanks in advance
-Jim 40384
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
I am in the same position as you are with the fuel valve. I am not as educated
as some on the valves though, but can an extension be added to the ANDAIR valve
Vans sells or does the valve have to be manufactured with it from the beginning.
I assume it can be modified after manufacture but want to make sure before
I buy the Vans valve and start looking for an extension.
Eric Kallio
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143813#143813
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
According to information on the Andair website, extensions can be added
to the newer "Type B" valves. I bought a valve from Vans and confirmed
that it is a Type B (there is a detailed diagram and explanation on the
Andair site). It is exactly the same valve I would have configured if I
ordered directly from Andair
I've tried to locate an extension but cannot find one. So tomorrow I'm
going to order 1 direct from Andair.
I'll end up saving $100 minus shipping the extension over buying the
valve and extension from Andair.
Eric_Kallio wrote:
>
> I am in the same position as you are with the fuel valve. I am not as educated
as some on the valves though, but can an extension be added to the ANDAIR valve
Vans sells or does the valve have to be manufactured with it from the beginning.
I assume it can be modified after manufacture but want to make sure before
I buy the Vans valve and start looking for an extension.
>
> Eric Kallio
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143813#143813
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
Eric,
The valve extension is something that can be added later to the valve.
It comes with a different handle/bezel assembly that connects to the
extension. Shouldn't be any problem at all. Finding the extensions
in the U.S. might be the hard part. You'll probably end up
ordering them from Andair unless someone like Neal has them.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Eric_Kallio wrote:
>
> I am in the same position as you are with the fuel valve. I am not as
> educated as some on the valves though, but can an extension be added
> to the ANDAIR valve Vans sells or does the valve have to be
> manufactured with it from the beginning. I assume it can be modified
> after manufacture but want to make sure before I buy the Vans valve
> and start looking for an extension.
>
> Eric Kallio
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143813#143813
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
I got an extension from Andy for $10.00. Ordered it at OSH when he was
there and he mailed it to me in a week or two. The ten spot included the
shipping. Jay Rowe #40301 (baffling)
----- Original Message -----
From: "MauleDriver" <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux
>
> According to information on the Andair website, extensions can be added
> to the newer "Type B" valves. I bought a valve from Vans and confirmed
> that it is a Type B (there is a detailed diagram and explanation on the
> Andair site). It is exactly the same valve I would have configured if I
> ordered directly from Andair
>
> I've tried to locate an extension but cannot find one. So tomorrow I'm
> going to order 1 direct from Andair.
>
> I'll end up saving $100 minus shipping the extension over buying the
> valve and extension from Andair.
>
> Eric_Kallio wrote:
>>
>> I am in the same position as you are with the fuel valve. I am not as
educated as some on the valves though, but can an extension be added to the
ANDAIR valve Vans sells or does the valve have to be manufactured with it
from the beginning. I assume it can be modified after manufacture but want
to make sure before I buy the Vans valve and start looking for an extension.
>>
>> Eric Kallio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143813#143813
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
11/4/2007 11:05 AM
>
>
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
For those who have not fitted the cowl, some advice. The cowl fit is shown
in a chapter prior to the firewall forward and baffling. It is not possible
to properly fit the cowl without the engine, prop, and spinner in place. The
prop and spinner can be there temporarily. The baffling should be in place
or there will be difficulty in cutting the baffling (less the silicone) down
to size Note that the forward lower ramps have to be cut back substantially
so that the lower cowl will fit. We found that the ramps must be cut back to
just aft of the starter ring gear.Why Van's did not provide a more accurate
set of metal for the standard IO540 is a wonder. Also do not rivet the
corner support triangles before fitting the cowl. Riveting the corner
triangles fixes the angle of the lower air ramp which must be in a
particular orientation for the cowl/silicone/baffling to work. .Also the
cowl should be mounted so that the spinner is approximately 1/4 inch above
the cowl ring so that after 100 hours , when the motor mount rubber sags the
two will be in alignment
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
Hello All,
Aerocraftparts sells a L-R-Off valve that's used on the IO-540 powered Lancair
Legacy. It has a 6-inch extension that may be appropriate to the RV-10. It lists
for $365.
http://www.aerocraftparts.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=EFS25-2-2B-M
Cheers,
- Kyrilian
Lancair Legacy
Eric,
The valve extension is something that can be added later to the valve.
It comes with a different handle/bezel assembly that connects to the
extension. Shouldn't be any problem at all. Finding the extensions
in the U.S. might be the hard part. You'll probably end up
ordering them from Andair unless someone like Neal has them.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Eric_Kallio wrote:
>
> I am in the same position as you are with the fuel valve. I am not as
> educated as some on the valves though, but can an extension be added
> to the ANDAIR valve Vans sells or does the valve have to be
> manufactured with it from the beginning. I assume it can be modified
> after manufacture but want to make sure before I buy the Vans valve
> and start looking for an extension.
>
> Eric Kallio
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143813#143813
>
>
>
>
__________________________________________________
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| Subject: | engine hoist (shop crane) |
I am approaching the time where I will need to lift some heavy items. One being
a milldrill and in a couple months my engine.
Harbor Freight and Aircraft Supply have several to select from. What are/have
others used?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143878#143878
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| Subject: | Re: engine hoist (shop crane) |
I'd just get any of them locally. I got my latest one from Sam's
for something like $169 or so. You want one with legs that fold up so
it's more compact for storage, and hopefully it'll have 4 wheels on the
ground even after folding up the legs, so that you can roll it around \
easily. Additionally, mine came with a leveling bar attachment so
you could hang the engine from the hook at each end and crank a handle
to change the tilt of the engine. This allowed the engine to be
angled better at different times to make it easier to get the
mounts/bolts though. Anyway, there's not that much to them,
so I'd just shop around locally at the farm & barn, Sam's,
Harbor Freight, or wherever you can find one that has the most
options like the leveler.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
orchidman wrote:
>
> I am approaching the time where I will need to lift some heavy items. One being
a milldrill and in a couple months my engine.
> Harbor Freight and Aircraft Supply have several to select from. What are/have
others used?
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Fuselage SB
> (N410GB reserved)
>
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| Subject: | Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit |
Is builder David Ward on this list? I see Vans has added a parking brake kit to
the accessories catalog. According to the description, the kit was developed
by him. Can someone tell me what is in this kit that they are charging $179?
The text says "Everything is included except for the valve (BRAKE PARKING PV-1),
and a CT A-740 type cable to operate the valve."
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=airframe&product=parking_brake-kit
This is my setup.
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/08fuselage/fuselage38o.html
Total cost WITHOUT the PV-1 ($107.95) and T handle cable from Spruce for $17.90,
about $8.
1 - F-1048; included
2 - K1000-3 = 1.36
2 - AN3-11A = $0.36
4 - AN816-4D = $5.44
The total for my setup is $134, including the PV-1 and T handle cable.
William
http://nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | engine hoist (shop crane) |
Harbor Freight has a 1 ton, folding shop crane on sale right now for $99 (normally
$170). Looks to be as sold as any other. Just picked one up today myself.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: engine hoist (shop crane)
I am approaching the time where I will need to lift some heavy items. One being
a milldrill and in a couple months my engine.
Harbor Freight and Aircraft Supply have several to select from. What are/have
others used?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
Glad you brought this up. I've been working on the cabin top/doors and was
wondering if there is any way to fit the cowl without a prop? Mounting the
engine and baffling is not a problem but I would like to hold off on orderi
ng the prop. Any ideas?
Vern Smith (#324 cabin top & doors)
From: dlm46007@cox.netTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RV10-List: cowl f
itting tips.Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:06:34 -0800
For those who have not fitted the cowl, some advice. The cowl fit is shown
in a chapter prior to the firewall forward and baffling. It is not possible
to properly fit the cowl without the engine, prop, and spinner in place. T
he prop and spinner can be there temporarily. The baffling should be in pla
ce or there will be difficulty in cutting the baffling (less the silicone)
down to size Note that the forward lower ramps have to be cut back substan
tially so that the lower cowl will fit. We found that the ramps must be cut
back to just aft of the starter ring gear.Why Van's did not provide a more
accurate set of metal for the standard IO540 is a wonder. Also do not rive
t the corner support triangles before fitting the cowl. Riveting the corner
triangles fixes the angle of the lower air ramp which must be in a particu
lar orientation for the cowl/silicone/baffling to work. .Also the cowl shou
ld be mounted so that the spinner is approximately 1/4 inch above the cowl
ring so that after 100 hours , when the motor mount rubber sags the two wil
l be in alignment
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
Although I agree that the engine, prop and spinner back plate need to be
in
place to fit the cowl, I don=92t think the baffles matter much. You can
easily trim those to fit after the cowl is finished by putting the top
cowl
on, reaching in through the oil door and marking the parts that touch
until
the top cowl fits fully, then you can trim a little more so there is a
small
gap so metal won=92t touch fiberglass, then put on the baffle seal.
That
could just add another level of complexity to fitting the cowl if the
baffles are already on. We have seen less than 1/8=94 sag (probably not
even
measurable) in the engine mount rubbers after 340 hours in N256H, so I
wouldn=92t go for a whole =BC=94. I would say 1/16th to 1/8th max, if
any.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
_____
From: David McNeill [mailto:dlm46007@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
For those who have not fitted the cowl, some advice. The cowl fit is
shown
in a chapter prior to the firewall forward and baffling. It is not
possible
to properly fit the cowl without the engine, prop, and spinner in place.
The
prop and spinner can be there temporarily. The baffling should be in
place
or there will be difficulty in cutting the baffling (less the silicone)
down
to size Note that the forward lower ramps have to be cut back
substantially
so that the lower cowl will fit. We found that the ramps must be cut
back to
just aft of the starter ring gear.Why Van's did not provide a more
accurate
set of metal for the standard IO540 is a wonder. Also do not rivet the
corner support triangles before fitting the cowl. Riveting the corner
triangles fixes the angle of the lower air ramp which must be in a
particular orientation for the cowl/silicone/baffling to work. .Also the
cowl should be mounted so that the spinner is approximately 1/4 inch
above
the cowl ring so that after 100 hours , when the motor mount rubber sags
the
two will be in alignment
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| Subject: | engine hoist (shop crane) |
Sam's Club sells a nice one for around $200, I think. Best bet might be to
borrow one, if you can, unless you expect to use it a lot. I would
recommend on that has legs that fold up because they can take up a lot of
space otherwise.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: orchidman [mailto:gary@wingscc.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: engine hoist (shop crane)
I am approaching the time where I will need to lift some heavy items. One
being a milldrill and in a couple months my engine.
Harbor Freight and Aircraft Supply have several to select from. What
are/have others used?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143878#143878
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| Subject: | Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit |
do not know what is included but the only things required are the matco
parking brake valve (PV1) and the cable and a couple of adel clamps. Of
course you have to fabricate a bracket from some scrap aluminum. $180
without the cable and valve is BAB (beyond all belief)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Curtis
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:05 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Vans RV-10 Parking Brake kit
Is builder David Ward on this list? I see Vans has added a parking brake
kit to the accessories catalog. According to the description, the kit was
developed by him. Can someone tell me what is in this kit that they are
charging $179? The text says "Everything is included except for the valve
(BRAKE PARKING PV-1), and a CT A-740 type cable to operate the valve."
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?&browse=airframe&product=par
king_brake-kit
This is my setup.
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/08fuselage/fuselage38o.html
Total cost WITHOUT the PV-1 ($107.95) and T handle cable from Spruce for
$17.90, about $8.
1 - F-1048; included
2 - K1000-3 = 1.36
2 - AN3-11A = $0.36
4 - AN816-4D = $5.44
The total for my setup is $134, including the PV-1 and T handle cable.
William
http://nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | engine hoist (shop crane) |
I have used the HF for about 7 years. I paid about $200. Hung the engines on
both the Glastar and the 10. It weighs about 175 pounds and I have loaded it
by my self (although help welcomed) into the back of my pickup for transport
between the hangar and the house
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=7620
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: engine hoist (shop crane)
I am approaching the time where I will need to lift some heavy items. One
being a milldrill and in a couple months my engine.
Harbor Freight and Aircraft Supply have several to select from. What
are/have others used?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143878#143878
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
Contact a prop shop and see if you can get a junk prop hub that you can
use
or have. You can fit the back plate to that and go from there. Just
give
them the C2YR number and they will know what hub you need. Don=92t
forget the
long lead time on the prop, 2-3 months.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
_____
From: Vernon Smith [mailto:planesmith@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
Glad you brought this up. I've been working on the cabin top/doors and
was
wondering if there is any way to fit the cowl without a prop? Mounting
the
engine and baffling is not a problem but I would like to hold off on
ordering the prop. Any ideas?
Vern Smith (#324 cabin top & doors)
_____
From: dlm46007@cox.net
Subject: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
For those who have not fitted the cowl, some advice. The cowl fit is
shown
in a chapter prior to the firewall forward and baffling. It is not
possible
to properly fit the cowl without the engine, prop, and spinner in place.
The
prop and spinner can be there temporarily. The baffling should be in
place
or there will be difficulty in cutting the baffling (less the silicone)
down
to size Note that the forward lower ramps have to be cut back
substantially
so that the lower cowl will fit. We found that the ramps must be cut
back to
just aft of the starter ring gear.Why Van's did not provide a more
accurate
set of metal for the standard IO540 is a wonder. Also do not rivet the
corner support triangles before fitting the cowl. Riveting the corner
triangles fixes the angle of the lower air ramp which must be in a
particular orientation for the cowl/silicone/baffling to work. .Also the
cowl should be mounted so that the spinner is approximately 1/4 inch
above
the cowl ring so that after 100 hours , when the motor mount rubber sags
the
two will be in alignment
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
2 thoughts ' I installed the baffling after the cowl since you can=92t
really
get a good fit without knowing where the cowl will be.
As for the prop ' my spinner lined up nicely with the backplate
without any
trimming so you might be able to get away with just attaching the
backplate
and fit the cowling from that. If possible though, I=92d recommend
getting
the prop and spinner on to make sure.
Marcus
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
Glad you brought this up. I've been working on the cabin top/doors and
was
wondering if there is any way to fit the cowl without a prop? Mounting
the
engine and baffling is not a problem but I would like to hold off on
ordering the prop. Any ideas?
Vern Smith (#324 cabin top & doors)
_____
From: dlm46007@cox.net
Subject: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
For those who have not fitted the cowl, some advice. The cowl fit is
shown
in a chapter prior to the firewall forward and baffling. It is not
possible
to properly fit the cowl without the engine, prop, and spinner in place.
The
prop and spinner can be there temporarily. The baffling should be in
place
or there will be difficulty in cutting the baffling (less the silicone)
down
to size Note that the forward lower ramps have to be cut back
substantially
so that the lower cowl will fit. We found that the ramps must be cut
back to
just aft of the starter ring gear.Why Van's did not provide a more
accurate
set of metal for the standard IO540 is a wonder. Also do not rivet the
corner support triangles before fitting the cowl. Riveting the corner
triangles fixes the angle of the lower air ramp which must be in a
particular orientation for the cowl/silicone/baffling to work. .Also the
cowl should be mounted so that the spinner is approximately 1/4 inch
above
the cowl ring so that after 100 hours , when the motor mount rubber sags
the
two will be in alignment
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