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1. 02:54 AM - Re: engine hoist (shop crane) (Kelly McMullen)
2. 03:31 AM - FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan (Bob Leffler)
3. 03:31 AM - Re: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (MauleDriver)
4. 05:04 AM - Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (Eric_Kallio)
5. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (MauleDriver)
6. 06:16 AM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Vernon Smith)
7. 06:23 AM - Re: engine hoist (shop crane) (orchidman)
8. 06:30 AM - Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (orchidman)
9. 06:48 AM - Re: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (Tim Olson)
10. 06:54 AM - Re: engine hoist (shop crane) (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
11. 08:33 AM - Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (orchidman)
12. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (John Cram)
13. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (Tim Olson)
14. 09:54 AM - Re: Re: Pray for Dan's family (Tim Olson)
15. 10:08 AM - [Fw: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan Lloyd Arrangements] ()
16. 12:23 PM - Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux (Eric_Kallio)
17. 01:48 PM - Dan Lloyd's Obituary ()
18. 06:38 PM - drilling F1001N-R and L (David McNeill)
19. 06:48 PM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Bill Schlatterer)
20. 07:23 PM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Vernon Smith)
21. 07:55 PM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Bill Schlatterer)
22. 08:14 PM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Steven DiNieri)
23. 08:43 PM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Bill Schlatterer)
24. 11:54 PM - Re: drilling F1001N-R and L (Chris and Susie McGough)
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| Subject: | Re: engine hoist (shop crane) |
Pep Boys and Checker Auto seem to regularly have them on sale. I think
I paid $120 for mine, and it does fold up or break down for transport.
It didn't come with a load leveling bar, which would be nice.
On Nov 4, 2007 9:36 PM, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
>
> I have used the HF for about 7 years. I paid about $200. Hung the engines on
> both the Glastar and the 10. It weighs about 175 pounds and I have loaded it
> by my self (although help welcomed) into the back of my pickup for transport
> between the hangar and the house
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=7620
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
>
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:31 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: engine hoist (shop crane)
>
>
> I am approaching the time where I will need to lift some heavy items. One
> being a milldrill and in a couple months my engine.
> Harbor Freight and Aircraft Supply have several to select from. What
> are/have others used?
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Fuselage SB
> (N410GB reserved)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143878#143878
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| Subject: | FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan |
Forwarding to the RV-10 list
From: OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:05 PM
Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan
Hi Gang,
I just got off the phone with Trish. I have all the info regarding
the arrangements....except for one address that she won't have
available till tomorrow. That said....I'll post all the details
tomorrow afternoon sometime so it'll all be in one post.
I also spoke to the Greenville Airport Manager tonight. They will
look forward to working with us in regard to a Fly-In in Dan's
Memory next year.
I'd like to mention is that Trish was VERY appreciative of our
suggestions and offers.
Also, during our conversation I told Trish about the many Prayers on
her behalf.....all I can say is that your Prayers mean a LOT to
her....and she extends her heartfelt Thanks.
I told Trish that there were a few pics of Dan on the various sites
and she asked me to send them to her as soon as possible. I plan on
sending the one Rob just posted along with a few others I've seen.
If you have a pic of Dan please send it to my home email at:
rickgray@roadrunner.com <mailto:rickgray%40roadrunner.com>
Dan was very proud to be a member of this group and wore his white
hat OFTEN. THANK YOU ALL......VERY MUCH.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
That would be nice! It looks like it's going to cost me $100 list after
applying the current exchange rate. BTW, Neal said he didn't have
anything any longer. Aircraft Spruce special orders them (with the
valve only).
Jay Rowe wrote:
> I got an extension from Andy for $10.00. Ordered it at OSH when he
> was there and he mailed it to me in a week or two. The ten spot
> included the shipping. Jay Rowe #40301 (baffling)
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MauleDriver"
> <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux
>
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> >
> > According to information on the Andair website, extensions can be
> added
> > to the newer "Type B" valves. I bought a valve from Vans and
> confirmed
> > that it is a Type B (there is a detailed diagram and explanation on
> the
> > Andair site). It is exactly the same valve I would have configured
> if I
> > ordered directly from Andair
> >
> > I've tried to locate an extension but cannot find one. So tomorrow
> I'm
> > going to order 1 direct from Andair.
> >
> > I'll end up saving $100 minus shipping the extension over buying the
> > valve and extension from Andair.
> >
> > Eric_Kallio wrote:
> >>
> >> I am in the same position as you are with the fuel valve. I am not
> as educated as some on the valves though, but can an extension be
> added to the ANDAIR valve Vans sells or does the valve have to be
> manufactured with it from the beginning. I assume it can be modified
> after manufacture but want to make sure before I buy the Vans valve
> and start looking for an extension.
> >>
> >> Eric Kallio
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143813#143813
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> > -- 11/4/2007 11:05 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
I ordered the valve from Vans and went ahead and just ordered the extension from
Andair last night. That cost a pretty penny, but I wasn't able to find anyone
that sold just the extension here in the states. Now all I need is a floscan
and I can plumb my fuel system which is about all that is left before canopy.
Eric Kallio
40518 floors then fuel
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
Re the Floscan - I've been told that they are setup for specific EISs.
That is, you get a Flo-scan setup for GRT or for ? or ?. Stein
confirmed this and sold one to me for the GRT. If all that is true, you
have to make a EIS choice before committing to the Flo-scan.
Seems like we're at the same place.
Eric_Kallio wrote:
>
> I ordered the valve from Vans and went ahead and just ordered the extension from
Andair last night. That cost a pretty penny, but I wasn't able to find anyone
that sold just the extension here in the states. Now all I need is a floscan
and I can plumb my fuel system which is about all that is left before canopy.
>
> Eric Kallio
> 40518 floors then fuel
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143939#143939
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
Why didn't I think of that? I'll keep the prop lead time in mind. Thank you
all for the suggestions.
Vern Smith
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From: jesse@saintaviation.comTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: RV10-L
ist: cowl fitting tips.Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:37:12 -0500
Contact a prop shop and see if you can get a junk prop hub that you can use
or have. You can fit the back plate to that and go from there. Just give
them the C2YR number and they will know what hub you need. Don=92t forget
the long lead time on the prop, 2-3 months.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
From: Vernon Smith [mailto:planesmith@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 0
4, 2007 9:07 PMTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitt
ing tips.
Glad you brought this up. I've been working on the cabin top/doors and was
wondering if there is any way to fit the cowl without a prop? Mounting the
engine and baffling is not a problem but I would like to hold off on orderi
ng the prop. Any ideas? Vern Smith (#324 cabin top & doors)
From: dlm46007@cox.netTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RV10-List: cowl f
itting tips.Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:06:34 -0800
For those who have not fitted the cowl, some advice. The cowl fit is shown
in a chapter prior to the firewall forward and baffling. It is not possible
to properly fit the cowl without the engine, prop, and spinner in place. T
he prop and spinner can be there temporarily. The baffling should be in pla
ce or there will be difficulty in cutting the baffling (less the silicone)
down to size Note that the forward lower ramps have to be cut back substan
tially so that the lower cowl will fit. We found that the ramps must be cut
back to just aft of the starter ring gear.Why Van's did not provide a more
accurate set of metal for the standard IO540 is a wonder. Also do not rive
t the corner support triangles before fitting the cowl. Riveting the corner
triangles fixes the angle of the lower air ramp which must be in a particu
lar orientation for the cowl/silicone/baffling to work. .Also the cowl shou
ld be mounted so that the spinner is approximately 1/4 inch above the cowl
ring so that after 100 hours , when the motor mount rubber sags the two wil
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| Subject: | Re: engine hoist (shop crane) |
Thanks all. Looks like I need to check Pep Boys, Sams, and Harbor Freight.
It sounds like a load leveling option may be something to look for as I shop more.
One item it will need to do is to put my milldrill that I plan on purchasing
in the next 2 weeks onto its stand. It has a 650 lb shipping weight so a
one ton capacity should cover everything I intend to use it for. Arm length and
height at max elevation will be something else I will look into when comparine.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143954#143954
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com wrote:
> Re the Floscan - I've been told that they are setup for specific EISs.
> That is, you get a Flo-scan setup for GRT or for ? or ?. Stein
> confirmed this and sold one to me for the GRT. If all that is true, you
> have to make a EIS choice before committing to the Flo-scan.
>
> Seems like we're at the same place.
>
I am going AFS and it is included in their probes and sensors kit. So I would
agree that you need to figure out which EIS you are going with because it may
already be included.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
When I bought the Chelton system one of the things that I did
was buy the EIS6000 Chelton version, which adds a small
bit of software function to the standard, plus, it came with
all probes and sensors as well. So yup, good idea to have
your engine monitor picked out.
Now that said, a builder shouldn't be concerned about leaving
the fuel flow sensor for later, either. Doesn't matter
if you install it in the tunnel or on the engine, it won't
be nearly as tough as some items to install. So just cap the
lines, and wait until you pick your avionics, and install
it when you get the rest. You don't want to make hasty
avionics choices just because you want a flow sensor.
I ended up buying a spare, so I installed one and had one
that came with my system. Many of the EIS's use the same
FloScan anyway.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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orchidman wrote:
>
>
> MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com wrote:
>> Re the Floscan - I've been told that they are setup for specific EISs.
>> That is, you get a Flo-scan setup for GRT or for ? or ?. Stein
>> confirmed this and sold one to me for the GRT. If all that is true, you
>> have to make a EIS choice before committing to the Flo-scan.
>>
>> Seems like we're at the same place.
>>
>
> I am going AFS and it is included in their probes and sensors kit. So I would
agree that you need to figure out which EIS you are going with because it may
already be included.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Fuselage SB
> (N410GB reserved)
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| Subject: | engine hoist (shop crane) |
I believe this is the one I picked up yesterday for $99. Not 100% positive as
it's at my shop but looks right and matches the specs.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93840
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: engine hoist (shop crane)
I have used the HF for about 7 years. I paid about $200. Hung the engines on
both the Glastar and the 10. It weighs about 175 pounds and I have loaded it
by my self (although help welcomed) into the back of my pickup for transport
between the hangar and the house
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=7620
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: engine hoist (shop crane)
I am approaching the time where I will need to lift some heavy items. One
being a milldrill and in a couple months my engine.
Harbor Freight and Aircraft Supply have several to select from. What
are/have others used?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143878#143878
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
Another comment, there are 2 different bolt/nut plate patterns on the mounting
bracket. I was lucky in that the AFS flowscan takes the alternate mounting pattern
and I had just received it when I was at that point in Section 28.
So if you don't know which you will be using, you might want to leave the bracket
off and then rivet it on when you know what you are going to do for sure.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=143979#143979
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
Back to the Andair valve. I ordered the pricey extension kit from them 2
months ago and have never received it. we are in the email back and
forth stage now. I asked them to track it for me with no luck so far.
just sent off a new request this am. will keep list informed of the
drama as it unfolds.
John Cram
40569- Nick is going to final mount the top this week. (I am out of town
working)
----- Original Message -----
From: orchidman<mailto:gary@wingscc.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:32 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux
<gary@wingscc.com<mailto:gary@wingscc.com>>
Another comment, there are 2 different bolt/nut plate patterns on the
mounting bracket. I was lucky in that the AFS flowscan takes the
alternate mounting pattern and I had just received it when I was at that
point in Section 28.
So if you don't know which you will be using, you might want to leave
the bracket off and then rivet it on when you know what you are going to
do for sure.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
They aren't the quickest responding company, that's for sure.
I actually phoned them a few times as well, using an AT&T
calling card. I figured it was worth poking them a bit.
They did come through in the end. I get the feeling that
they're highly reliant on a few specific individuals.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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John Cram wrote:
> Back to the Andair valve. I ordered the pricey extension kit from them 2
> months ago and have never received it. we are in the email back and
> forth stage now. I asked them to track it for me with no luck so far.
> just sent off a new request this am. will keep list informed of the
> drama as it unfolds.
>
> John Cram
> 40569- Nick is going to final mount the top this week. (I am out of town
> working)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* orchidman <mailto:gary@wingscc.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 8:32 AM
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux
>
> <mailto:gary@wingscc.com>>
>
> Another comment, there are 2 different bolt/nut plate patterns on
> the mounting bracket. I was lucky in that the AFS flowscan takes
> the alternate mounting pattern and I had just received it when I was
> at that point in Section 28.
> So if you don't know which you will be using, you might want to
> leave the bracket off and then rivet it on when you know what you
> are going to do for sure.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Fuselage SB
> (N410GB reserved)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pray for Dan's family |
cc'd from our Ohio Valley RVators site:
I spoke with Trish again last night, her words...."I'm taking it one
hour at a time." She asked me to extend her warmest thanks and
appreciation for all the Prayers.
Here are the details as I know them:
1 - Obituary will come out in today's Sharon Herald but will NOT be
available on line until tomorrow (Tuesday 6 Nov). I'll post it as soon
as I have it.
2 - There will be a Visitation on Wednesday (7 Nov) from 5pm-7pm
followed by a 7pm Service held at:
McGonigle J. Bradley Funeral Home
1090 E. State Street
Sharon, Pa. 16146
There will be no Funeral.
3 - After speaking with the florist(s) we decided against a tree (for
now). The thought being that a)there wouldn't be any leaves on the tree
and b)an evergreen of some sort would be very heavy and would more then
likely create a lot of work for Trish. So, we went with a VERY NICE
'Permanent Seasonal Arrangement' that Trish can take home. Again, I
understand that this arrangement will be extremely nice and very well
received.
4 - Trish has set up a 'Daniel Lloyd Memorial Scholarship Fund' for
their children Cameron and Becca. I've received many calls and emails
from folks that want to donate. If you wish to donate feel free to send
a check. Nothing is too small or too large. I'll put the money together
and will hand deliver it to Trish in a few weeks. Perhaps some of you
could accompany me when I do this?
Send to:
Rick Gray
200 Baker Trail
Vincent, Ohio 45784
I've already received some donations....On behalf of Trish and the
kids....'Thank You'.
5 - Dan wore his Ohio Valley RVators hat just about everywhere he went.
I got a new hat for him (Thanks Glen 'Dogg' Miller) and will bring it
the Gag Awards/Birthday Party UFO this coming weekend at PHD. I'd like
to get as many folks as I can to sign the hat for Dan. I'll give it to
Trish along with the donations to the Scholarship Fund. I'll try to do
the same with one of the pictures.
6 - Thank You for all the pictures. I've received a bunch of really nice
ones! I've done a little editing and have sent them to Trish. She'll
select the ones she wants and will display them at the 'Visitation' on
Wednesday.
7 - Cards and Letters can be sent to Trish at:
Daniel (Dan) R. Lloyd
3249 Timber Lane
Hermitage, Pa 16148
8 - I talked with Rod Paul from the Greenville airport again today. We
have their full support and will make arrangements with them and Trish
for the Fly-In in Dan's Memory in 2008 . We WILL do a Missing Man
Formation in Dan's Honor at that time. My thoughts are that we could
also present Trish with the tree at that time as well. Perhaps we could
even plant it for her the same weekend.
9 - Also, I'm putting all the (appropriate) posts from our Ohio Valley
RVators yahoo site and Doug Reeves VAF site together in a document and
will print it out for Trish. There are way too many nice comments and
posts to let it slip by. I'm sure her and the kids will appreciate
having this for years to come.
I plan on driving up to see Trish at the Visitation on Wednesday. I'll
be leaving around 1pm and traveling up Rt77. If anyone wants to join me
I can pick you up on the way by.
Thanks for all your support.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
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| Subject: | [Fwd: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan Lloyd Arrangements] |
forwarding to rv-10 list
>
> From: "Rick" <rickgray@roadrunner.com>
> Date: 2007/11/05 Mon PM 12:40:37 EST
> To: OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan Lloyd Arrangements
>
> I spoke with Trish again last night, her words...."I'm taking it one
> hour at a time." She asked me to extend her warmest thanks and
> appreciation for all the Prayers.
>
> Here are the details as I know them:
>
> 1 - Obituary will come out in today's Sharon Herald but will NOT be
> available on line until tomorrow (Tuesday 6 Nov). I'll post it as
> soon as I have it.
>
> 2 - There will be a Visitation on Wednesday (7 Nov) from 5pm-7pm
> followed by a 7pm Service held at:
>
> McGonigle J. Bradley Funeral Home
> 1090 E. State Street
> Sharon, Pa. 16146
>
> There will be no Funeral.
>
> 3 - After speaking with the florist(s) we decided against a tree
> (for now). The thought being that a)there wouldn't be any leaves on
> the tree and b)an evergreen of some sort would be very heavy and
> would more then likely create a lot of work for Trish. So, we went
> with a VERY NICE 'Permanent Seasonal Arrangement' that Trish can
> take home. Again, I understand that this arrangement will be
> extremely nice and very well received.
>
> 4 - Trish has set up a 'Daniel Lloyd Memorial Scholarship Fund' for
> their children Cameron and Becca. I've received many calls and
> emails from folks that want to donate. If you wish to donate feel
> free to send a check. Nothing is too small or too large. I'll put
> the money together and will hand deliver it to Trish in a few weeks.
> Perhaps some of you could accompany me when I do this?
>
> Send to:
>
> Rick Gray
> 200 Baker Trail
> Vincent, Ohio 45784
>
> I've already received some donations....On behalf of Trish and the
> kids....'Thank You'.
>
> 5 - Dan wore his Ohio Valley RVators hat just about everywhere he
> went. I got a new hat for him (Thanks Glen 'Dogg' Miller) and will
> bring it the Gag Awards/Birthday Party UFO this coming weekend at
> PHD. I'd like to get as many folks as I can to sign the hat for Dan.
> I'll give it to Trish along with the donations to the Scholarship
> Fund. I'll try to do the same with one of the pictures.
>
> 6 - Thank You for all the pictures. I've received a bunch of really
> nice ones! I've done a little editing and have sent them to Trish.
> She'll select the ones she wants and will display them at
> the 'Visitation' on Wednesday.
>
> 7 - Cards and Letters can be sent to Trish at:
>
> Daniel (Dan) R. Lloyd
> 3249 Timber Lane
> Hermitage, Pa 16148
>
> 8 - I talked with Rod Paul from the Greenville airport again today.
> We have their full support and will make arrangements with them and
> Trish for the Fly-In in Dan's Memory in 2008 . We WILL do a Missing
> Man Formation in Dan's Honor at that time. My thoughts are that we
> could also present Trish with the tree at that time as well. Perhaps
> we could even plant it for her the same weekend.
>
> 9 - Also, I'm putting all the (appropriate) posts from our Ohio
> Valley RVators yahoo site and Doug Reeves VAF site together in a
> document and will print it out for Trish. There are way too many
> nice comments and posts to let it slip by. I'm sure her and the kids
> will appreciate having this for years to come.
>
> I plan on driving up to see Trish at the Visitation on Wednesday.
> I'll be leaving around 1pm and traveling up Rt77. If anyone wants to
> join me I can pick you up on the way by.
>
> Thanks for all your support.
>
> Rick at the Buffalo Farm
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Andair Fuel Valve - Redux |
I am going withe the new GRT HX and have been on their website looking at their
floscan (fuel flow package). Just haven't placed the order yet though. I figured
that I had time since Andair typically takes a good while to ship.
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| Subject: | Dan Lloyd's Obituary |
http://www.sharon-herald.com/fullobits/local_story_309141206.html
Published November 05, 2007 02:12 pm - A memorial service will be Wednesday (11-7-07)
for Daniel R. Lloyd II, 3249 Timber Lane, Hermitage. He passed away at
8:30 a.m. Friday (11-02-07) in Greene Township, Mercer County, of injuries sustained
in an airplane crash. He was 37.
Daniel R. Lloyd II
Pilot was Werner director of information technology
A memorial service will be Wednesday (11-7-07) for Daniel R. Lloyd II, 3249 Timber
Lane, Hermitage. He passed away at 8:30 a.m. Friday (11-02-07) in Greene Township,
Mercer County, of injuries sustained in an airplane crash. He was 37.
Dan was born Monday, Aug. 28, 1970, in Rota, Spain, the son of Daniel R. Lloyd
and Rita Lynn Bishop.
He graduated from Rampart High School in Colorado Springs, Colo., and later earned
his bachelors and masters degrees in computer science from the University
of Phoenix.
He was the director of the IT (information technology) department at Werner Co.,
Sugar Grove Township. He constantly searched for more information and enjoyed
reading, usually more than one book at any given time.
A pilot, he had spent over three years building his own RV-10 aircraft, an all-aluminum,
low-wing monoplane of Monocoque construction. He was a member of the
Ohio Valley RVators Club composed of other RV aircraft enthusiasts. He was a
veteran of the Navy, having served for eight years and receiving an honorable
discharge.
Daniel was a loving husband and father and friend who cherished his family and
time spent with them. He will be sadly missed by all those he touched.
His wife, the former Tricia S. Mangold, whom he married Feb. 21, 1989, survives
at the residence.
He also leaves his daughter, Rebecca E. Lloyd, 13; and his son, Cameron R. Lloyd,
8, both at home; his father, Daniel R. Lloyd, Sarasota, Fla.; his father- and
mother-in-law, Dennis C. and Carol A. Mangold, Orlando, Fla.; and his two close
friends, Bobby and Julia Garrett, Dighton, Mass.
His mother preceded him in death.
The family suggests that in lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made
to the Daniel Lloyd Memorial Scholarship Fund, c/o Shenango Valley Foundation,
33 Chestnut St., Sharon 16146, designated for his childrens education.
LLOYD Daniel R. II, 37, of 3249 Timber Lane, Hermitage.
Calling hours: 5 p.m. to time of service Wednesday (11-7-07) in J. BRADLEY McGONIGLE
FUNERAL HOME and CREMATORY Inc., 1090 E. State St., Sharon. Friends may
e-mail condolences to McGonigle FuneralHome@verizon.net
Service: Memorial service at 7 p.m. Wednesday in the funeral home chapel with the
Rev. Lawrence Haynes, pastor of Grace Chapel Community Church, Sharon, officiating.
Cremation: Cremation services by J. Bradley McGonigle Funeral Home and Crematory
Inc.
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| Subject: | drilling F1001N-R and L |
Since the pin in these hinges is undersized to allow for the bending of the
hinge, there is fore and aft play in the hinge. When drilling the aft end of
the top cowl, is the hinge drilled when played forward or aft?
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
I know this isn't a 10 but I'm not sure why the prop or hub is is really
necessary. I had a bulletin from Vans and they gave me the dimensions
for a
spacer which was 2.25 inches as I remember it. I took three round
pieces of
3/4 plywood plus several nickels for spacers in spacers ;-) to make it
exactly 2.25 and put the spinner plate on. I have already fit the cowl
and
sure hope I haven't messed up. See pix.
The cowl fits better than the pictures show due to the angles and the
prop
spinner to cowl gap will have to filled a little to make it perfect but
who
knows if the engine will sag a little etc, so my plan is to get it
close,
fly it awhile and then fiberglass to final fit.
This is on a 7 but I suspect the same method would work on a 10. I will
be
glad to scan and send the bulletin if anyone wants to see it. They
actually
said to fit the cowl without the prop because it makes it so much easier
to
get on and off what seems like a 1000 times.
Hope this helps
Bill S 7a Ark
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
Why didn't I think of that? I'll keep the prop lead time in mind. Thank
you
all for the suggestions.
Vern Smith
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From: jesse@saintaviation.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
Contact a prop shop and see if you can get a junk prop hub that you can
use
or have. You can fit the back plate to that and go from there. Just
give
them the C2YR number and they will know what hub you need. Don=92t
forget the
long lead time on the prop, 2-3 months.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com <http://www.saintaviation.com/>
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: Vernon Smith [mailto:planesmith@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
Glad you brought this up. I've been working on the cabin top/doors and
was
wondering if there is any way to fit the cowl without a prop? Mounting
the
engine and baffling is not a problem but I would like to hold off on
ordering the prop. Any ideas?
Vern Smith (#324 cabin top & doors)
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From: dlm46007@cox.net
Subject: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
For those who have not fitted the cowl, some advice. The cowl fit is
shown
in a chapter prior to the firewall forward and baffling. It is not
possible
to properly fit the cowl without the engine, prop, and spinner in place.
The
prop and spinner can be there temporarily. The baffling should be in
place
or there will be difficulty in cutting the baffling (less the silicone)
down
to size Note that the forward lower ramps have to be cut back
substantially
so that the lower cowl will fit. We found that the ramps must be cut
back to
just aft of the starter ring gear.Why Van's did not provide a more
accurate
set of metal for the standard IO540 is a wonder. Also do not rivet the
corner support triangles before fitting the cowl. Riveting the corner
triangles fixes the angle of the lower air ramp which must be in a
particular orientation for the cowl/silicone/baffling to work. .Also the
cowl should be mounted so that the spinner is approximately 1/4 inch
above
the cowl ring so that after 100 hours , when the motor mount rubber sags
the
two will be in alignment
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
The photos of your 7 are very nice. I wish the 10s spinner mounted the same
way. The back plate isn't held in place by the prop bolts but rather by th
e bolts that hold the constant speed hub together. At least that's how I re
ad the plans. Your posting did give me an idea, I'm headed up to Van's tomo
rrow and I'll bug them for any ideas. If they have anything new I'll drop a
n email to the group.
Vern Smith (#324 doors and cabin top)
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From: billschlatterer@sbcglobal.netTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RE:
RV10-List: cowl fitting tips. Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:48:15 -0600
I know this isn't a 10 but I'm not sure why the prop or hub is is really ne
cessary. I had a bulletin from Vans and they gave me the dimensions for a
spacer which was 2.25 inches as I remember it. I took three round pieces o
f 3/4 plywood plus several nickels for spacers in spacers ;-) to make it e
xactly 2.25 and put the spinner plate on. I have already fit the cowl and
sure hope I haven't messed up. See pix.
The cowl fits better than the pictures show due to the angles and the prop
spinner to cowl gap will have to filled a little to make it perfect but who
knows if the engine will sag a little etc, so my plan is to get it close,
fly it awhile and then fiberglass to final fit.
This is on a 7 but I suspect the same method would work on a 10. I will be
glad to scan and send the bulletin if anyone wants to see it. They actual
ly said to fit the cowl without the prop because it makes it so much easier
to get on and off what seems like a 1000 times.
Hope this helps
Bill S 7a Ark
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
Probably right, not sure about the 10 but actually the plate you see does
bolt to the prop hub. In finished form, the center of the spinner backing
plate (shown) has to be cut out for the hub to pass through and the spinner
plate (shown) actually bolts to the CS hub with the smaller plate on the
front of the hub. Then the CS hub itself bolts to the crank. It just works
out that the spacer puts the spinner plate in the right place 2.25 inches
from the flywheel face. I supposed that is why they ship the spinner plate
drilled but not cut out so that you could do this or use it on a fixed pitch
prop as well. If I am not mistaken, the fixed pitch prop is exactly 2.25
inches thick as well which is why it works for either one. Anyway I have
already said all I know. ;-)
Obviously this is in principle and the 2.25 dimension probably only applies
to the O-360 series engines.
For what it's worth, I found the document and attached a JPG copy.
Good luck!
Bill S
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
The photos of your 7 are very nice. I wish the 10s spinner mounted the same
way. The back plate isn't held in place by the prop bolts but rather by the
bolts that hold the constant speed hub together. At least that's how I read
the plans. Your posting did give me an idea, I'm headed up to Van's tomorrow
and I'll bug them for any ideas. If they have anything new I'll drop an
email to the group.
Vern Smith (#324 doors and cabin top)
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From: billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
I know this isn't a 10 but I'm not sure why the prop or hub is is really
necessary. I had a bulletin from Vans and they gave me the dimensions for a
spacer which was 2.25 inches as I remember it. I took three round pieces of
3/4 plywood plus several nickels for spacers in spacers ;-) to make it
exactly 2.25 and put the spinner plate on. I have already fit the cowl and
sure hope I haven't messed up. See pix.
The cowl fits better than the pictures show due to the angles and the prop
spinner to cowl gap will have to filled a little to make it perfect but who
knows if the engine will sag a little etc, so my plan is to get it close,
fly it awhile and then fiberglass to final fit.
This is on a 7 but I suspect the same method would work on a 10. I will be
glad to scan and send the bulletin if anyone wants to see it. They actually
said to fit the cowl without the prop because it makes it so much easier to
get on and off what seems like a 1000 times.
Hope this helps
Bill S 7a Ark
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
here's a quick pic of the prop hub i acquired from a prop shop for 40 bucks
shipped. its unairworthy of coarse and he needed to be convinced i wasn't
going to try and fly behind it. DUH.. i figured when i was done I'd release
it into RV land and let rv10 builders pass it on...
steve dinieri
iflyrv10.com
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
The photos of your 7 are very nice. I wish the 10s spinner mounted the same
way. The back plate isn't held in place by the prop bolts but rather by the
bolts that hold the constant speed hub together. At least that's how I read
the plans. Your posting did give me an idea, I'm headed up to Van's tomorrow
and I'll bug them for any ideas. If they have anything new I'll drop an
email to the group.
Vern Smith (#324 doors and cabin top)
Do not archive
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From: billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
I know this isn't a 10 but I'm not sure why the prop or hub is is really
necessary. I had a bulletin from Vans and they gave me the dimensions for a
spacer which was 2.25 inches as I remember it. I took three round pieces of
3/4 plywood plus several nickels for spacers in spacers ;-) to make it
exactly 2.25 and put the spinner plate on. I have already fit the cowl and
sure hope I haven't messed up. See pix.
The cowl fits better than the pictures show due to the angles and the prop
spinner to cowl gap will have to filled a little to make it perfect but who
knows if the engine will sag a little etc, so my plan is to get it close,
fly it awhile and then fiberglass to final fit.
This is on a 7 but I suspect the same method would work on a 10. I will be
glad to scan and send the bulletin if anyone wants to see it. They actually
said to fit the cowl without the prop because it makes it so much easier to
get on and off what seems like a 1000 times.
Hope this helps
Bill S 7a Ark
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
OOps, meant to say the fixed pitch prop spacer for the FP is 2.25 inches on
the 7, not the prop itself. Again, may not apply to an IO540 but an old
hub or the correct spacer size from Vans for an IO540 would take all the
guesswork out of it.
Bill S
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Schlatterer
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
Probably right, not sure about the 10 but actually the plate you see does
bolt to the prop hub. In finished form, the center of the spinner backing
plate (shown) has to be cut out for the hub to pass through and the spinner
plate (shown) actually bolts to the CS hub with the smaller plate on the
front of the hub. Then the CS hub itself bolts to the crank. It just works
out that the spacer puts the spinner plate in the right place 2.25 inches
from the flywheel face. I supposed that is why they ship the spinner plate
drilled but not cut out so that you could do this or use it on a fixed pitch
prop as well. If I am not mistaken, the fixed pitch prop is exactly 2.25
inches thick as well which is why it works for either one. Anyway I have
already said all I know. ;-)
Obviously this is in principle and the 2.25 dimension probably only applies
to the O-360 series engines.
For what it's worth, I found the document and attached a JPG copy.
Good luck!
Bill S
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
The photos of your 7 are very nice. I wish the 10s spinner mounted the same
way. The back plate isn't held in place by the prop bolts but rather by the
bolts that hold the constant speed hub together. At least that's how I read
the plans. Your posting did give me an idea, I'm headed up to Van's tomorrow
and I'll bug them for any ideas. If they have anything new I'll drop an
email to the group.
Vern Smith (#324 doors and cabin top)
Do not archive
_____
From: billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
I know this isn't a 10 but I'm not sure why the prop or hub is is really
necessary. I had a bulletin from Vans and they gave me the dimensions for a
spacer which was 2.25 inches as I remember it. I took three round pieces of
3/4 plywood plus several nickels for spacers in spacers ;-) to make it
exactly 2.25 and put the spinner plate on. I have already fit the cowl and
sure hope I haven't messed up. See pix.
The cowl fits better than the pictures show due to the angles and the prop
spinner to cowl gap will have to filled a little to make it perfect but who
knows if the engine will sag a little etc, so my plan is to get it close,
fly it awhile and then fiberglass to final fit.
This is on a 7 but I suspect the same method would work on a 10. I will be
glad to scan and send the bulletin if anyone wants to see it. They actually
said to fit the cowl without the prop because it makes it so much easier to
get on and off what seems like a 1000 times.
Hope this helps
Bill S 7a Ark
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| Subject: | Re: drilling F1001N-R and L |
You drill it with the full size pin in otherwise you will not get the
other pin in or dificult to get it in.
regards Chris 388
----- Original Message -----
From: David McNeill
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: drilling F1001N-R and L
Since the pin in these hinges is undersized to allow for the bending
of the hinge, there is fore and aft play in the hinge. When drilling the
aft end of the top cowl, is the hinge drilled when played forward or
aft?
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