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0. 12:23 AM - What Listers Are Saying... (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:25 AM - Re: cowl fitting tips. (Jesse Saint)
2. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: High Oil Temp (Albert Gardner)
3. 07:35 AM - Re: Re: High Oil Temp (Rick Sked)
4. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: High Oil Temp (Deems Davis)
5. 08:20 AM - Re: High Oil Temp (orchidman)
6. 08:49 AM - -10 project for sale (John Hasbrouck)
7. 10:06 AM - Re: -10 project for sale ()
8. 10:37 AM - Re: -10 project for sale (John Hasbrouck)
9. 11:24 AM - Re: -10 project for sale (Jeff Carpenter)
10. 11:40 AM - Re: Re: -10 project for sale ()
11. 12:08 PM - Re: -10 project for sale (John Gonzalez)
12. 02:43 PM - Re: Re: High Oil Temp ()
13. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: High Oil Temp (Fred Williams, M.D.)
14. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: High Oil Temp (Mark Ritter)
15. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: High Oil Temp (John W. Cox)
16. 11:27 PM - Re: Fiberglass/plexiglass cabin top window purgatory (AirMike)
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| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying... |
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| Subject: | cowl fitting tips. |
I am suggesting exactly that if prefitting the cowl with a dummy prop hub.
If you have your final prop, then you can drill it, of course.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
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From: Steven DiNieri [mailto:capsteve@adelphia.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:54 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
hey Jessie,
are you suggesting not to drill the front plate to the spinner cone?
steve dinieri
iflyrv10.com
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
Remember not to drill the spinner front plate that you already have
installed in the hub. The orientation of the cylinder on the front of the
hub may not be the same on all props.
Nice-looking plenum, but how does the air get in there? :-)
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: Steven DiNieri [mailto:capsteve@adelphia.net]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:14 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
here's a quick pic of the prop hub i acquired from a prop shop for 40 bucks
shipped. its unairworthy of coarse and he needed to be convinced i wasn't
going to try and fly behind it. DUH.. i figured when i was done I'd release
it into RV land and let rv10 builders pass it on...
steve dinieri
iflyrv10.com
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
The photos of your 7 are very nice. I wish the 10s spinner mounted the same
way. The back plate isn't held in place by the prop bolts but rather by the
bolts that hold the constant speed hub together. At least that's how I read
the plans. Your posting did give me an idea, I'm headed up to Van's tomorrow
and I'll bug them for any ideas. If they have anything new I'll drop an
email to the group.
Vern Smith (#324 doors and cabin top)
Do not archive
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From: billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: RV10-List: cowl fitting tips.
I know this isn't a 10 but I'm not sure why the prop or hub is is really
necessary. I had a bulletin from Vans and they gave me the dimensions for a
spacer which was 2.25 inches as I remember it. I took three round pieces of
3/4 plywood plus several nickels for spacers in spacers ;-) to make it
exactly 2.25 and put the spinner plate on. I have already fit the cowl and
sure hope I haven't messed up. See pix.
The cowl fits better than the pictures show due to the angles and the prop
spinner to cowl gap will have to filled a little to make it perfect but who
knows if the engine will sag a little etc, so my plan is to get it close,
fly it awhile and then fiberglass to final fit.
This is on a 7 but I suspect the same method would work on a 10. I will be
glad to scan and send the bulletin if anyone wants to see it. They actually
said to fit the cowl without the prop because it makes it so much easier to
get on and off what seems like a 1000 times.
Hope this helps
Bill S 7a Ark
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Temp |
I'm not familiar with this oil cooler-do you know who carries it?
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
-----Original Message-----
It might be a pricey remedy, but how about Alex's higher capacity oil
cooler? Especially in the Central and southern tier of the country it
might not be bad to add 20% to the cooling capacity of the oil cooler
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Temp |
Al,
Heres the link.
http://www.aviationtechproducts.com/
Rick S.
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 10:14:13 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: High Oil Temp
I'm not familiar with this oil cooler-do you know who carries it?
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
-----Original Message-----
It might be a pricey remedy, but how about Alex's higher capacity oil
cooler? Especially in the Central and southern tier of the country it
might not be bad to add 20% to the cooling capacity of the oil cooler
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Temp |
Al, It's the one made by Airflow Performance. You can buy it direct form
them http://www.airflow-systems.com/ or you can buy it from Alex D.
Gary Foster put one on his RV-10 in OK. and reported a drop in oil temps
vs Van's stock cooler. I ordered and received one, but haven't installed
it yet. It's a bolt on replacement, the difference is that it has
significantly more cooling vanes (those zig-zag do-higgies).
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Albert Gardner wrote:
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> I'm not familiar with this oil cooler-do you know who carries it?
> Albert Gardner
> Yuma, AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> It might be a pricey remedy, but how about Alex's higher capacity oil
> cooler? Especially in the Central and southern tier of the country it
> might not be bad to add 20% to the cooling capacity of the oil cooler
>
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Temp |
Is the 2006X big enough for a stock 260 HP or are most people going with the 2008X
for the extra cooling capacity? (I'm in Oklahoma)
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | -10 project for sale |
all,
This time I'm sticking to it! My -10 project is for sale.
Empennage, wings and fuselage kits done and ready for finish kit.
O-540-A1D5 Lycoming with 1634 SFRM included. Changed my mind about this
before but have decided that I'd rather be flying than building and
don't have time to complete the -10 in a reasonable time. Located at
KMGY (Dayton Wright Bros.) jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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| Subject: | Re: -10 project for sale |
What are you looking for in regards to $$$?
>
> From: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
> Date: 2007/11/07 Wed AM 11:45:51 EST
> To: "RV LIST" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: -10 project for sale
>
> all,
> This time I'm sticking to it! My -10 project is for sale. Empennage, wings
and fuselage kits done and ready for finish kit. O-540-A1D5 Lycoming with
1634 SFRM included. Changed my mind about this before but have decided that
I'd rather be flying than building and don't have time to complete the -10 in
a reasonable time. Located at KMGY (Dayton Wright Bros.) jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com
>
> John Hasbrouck
> #40264
>
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| Subject: | Re: -10 project for sale |
$35,000.00 takes it all including the engine and extras! Thanks for asking.
John Hasbrouck
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| Subject: | Re: -10 project for sale |
I'll take two!
You've got to be kidding.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
Do Not Archive
On Nov 7, 2007, at 10:35 AM, John Hasbrouck wrote:
> <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
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> $35,000.00 takes it all including the engine and extras! Thanks
> for asking. John Hasbrouck
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| Subject: | Re: -10 project for sale |
What are the extras?
>
> From: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
> Date: 2007/11/07 Wed PM 01:35:26 EST
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 project for sale
>
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> $35,000.00 takes it all including the engine and extras! Thanks for asking.
> John Hasbrouck
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| Subject: | Re: -10 project for sale |
Was this the one with the shop heads of the rivets on the outside of the
skin?
What's going on here?
JG. #409
>From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 project for sale
>Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:12:33 -0800
>
>
>I'll take two!
>
>You've got to be kidding.
>
>Jeff Carpenter
>40304
>Do Not Archive
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>
>On Nov 7, 2007, at 10:35 AM, John Hasbrouck wrote:
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>>$35,000.00 takes it all including the engine and extras! Thanks for
>>asking. John Hasbrouck
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Temp |
Unless you've come up with an ingenuous way to mount it I don't think the 2008x
will fit.
Deems
---- orchidman <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
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> Is the 2006X big enough for a stock 260 HP or are most people going with the
2008X for the extra cooling capacity? (I'm in Oklahoma)
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> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Fuselage SB
> (N410GB reserved)
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144419#144419
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Temp |
Gary;
I'm just south in Paris, Texas and went for the better cooling oil
cooler. Anything to keep the life blood of the engine as cool as
possible.
Dr Fred
orchidman wrote:
>
> Is the 2006X big enough for a stock 260 HP or are most people going with the
2008X for the extra cooling capacity? (I'm in Oklahoma)
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Fuselage SB
> (N410GB reserved)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144419#144419
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Temp |
I ordered the 2008X about two months ago. It's considerably bigger than th
e bolt on replacement 2006X and will not mount on the firewall due to engin
e mount interference. I sent the 2008X back and installed the 2006X. The o
il temps went down about 8 degrees. Also can climb at higher VS with the n
ew cooler. They did tell me if and when they figure out how to mount the 2
008X in the RV-10 there would be a good trade-in arrangement.
Mark
RV-10/N410MR
Austin, Texas<html><div></div>
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: High Oil Temp> From: gary@wingscc.com> Date: Wed,
7 Nov 2007 08:17:39 -0800> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> > --> RV10-List me
ssage posted by: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>> > Is the 2006X big enough
for a stock 260 HP or are most people going with the 2008X for the extra co
oling capacity? (I'm in Oklahoma)> > --------> Gary Blankenbiller> RV10 - #
40674> Fuselage SB> (N410GB reserved)> > > > > Read this topic online here
:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144419#144419> > > > > >
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Temp |
This would be a great time for someone to reach out to James McClow and
get him to post an opinion on Static pressure changes in the airflow,
both into and out of the stock VANS or 2006X coolers. Restrictions
reduce airflow which is not a good thing. A composite duct (replacing
SCAT tubing) and some simple mods should produce noticeable improvements
to oil heat exchanger efficiencies. It is obvious as to why it is
generally mounted where it is, however, the serpentine routing does not
lead to efficiencies of operation.
Does anyone have his email address?
John
RV10 - #40600
Aurora, OR
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: High Oil Temp
I ordered the 2008X about two months ago. It's considerably bigger than
the bolt on replacement 2006X and will not mount on the firewall due to
engine mount interference. I sent the 2008X back and installed the
2006X. The oil temps went down about 8 degrees. Also can climb at
higher VS with the new cooler. They did tell me if and when they figure
out how to mount the 2008X in the RV-10 there would be a good trade-in
arrangement.
Mark
RV-10/N410MR
Austin, Texas
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> Subject: RV10-List: Re: High Oil Temp
> From: gary@wingscc.com
> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:17:39 -0800
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Is the 2006X big enough for a stock 260 HP or are most people going
with the 2008X for the extra cooling capacity? (I'm in Oklahoma)
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Fuselage SB
> (N410GB reserved)
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144419#144419
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/plexiglass cabin top window purgatory |
I did window #2 (rear) today with better results. I did two things. I used my fingers
and many nitrile gloves to form the filet.
Also I used some prior advice and only used about 70% of the weld-on catalyst.
Gives much better working time
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Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/uggg
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