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1. 07:47 AM - FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's Visitation (Bob Leffler)
2. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: Stuffed hole help (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: High Oil Temp (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
4. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: Stuffed hole help (BPA)
5. 08:54 AM - Re: -10 project for sale (Rick Barnes)
6. 09:23 AM - Re: High Oil Temp (orchidman)
7. 12:16 PM - Aftermarket brake lines (Chris Johnston)
8. 01:22 PM - Simple strobe choices (Jae Chang)
9. 02:19 PM - Re: Aftermarket brake lines (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
10. 03:24 PM - Re: Simple strobe choices (Ben Westfall)
11. 04:14 PM - Re: Aftermarket brake lines (Bruce Patton)
12. 04:24 PM - Re: Simple strobe choices (Pascal)
13. 08:59 PM - Second U-1002 Needed (Jesse Saint)
14. 09:19 PM - RV 10 for sale or trade (steve carlson)
15. 10:15 PM - Vegas/Nellis progress (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's Visitation |
From: OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's Visitation
Forwarding to the RV-10 list
Hi Gang,
Just wanted to report back to you on the 'Visitation and Service'
for Dan last night.
Whenever we travel we always 'check in' on the radio once airborne
giving position reports and eta. This time we were all checking in
via cell phone and mile marker as we in our cars....hmmmm. All 'cept
Mike Stewart that is since he flew up from Georgia. Of course he did
put his cell into action once picked up at Youngstown airport by
Glen and Mike. Most of us met at a litte Italian restaurant
called 'Cickerinos' (somethink like that)in Hermitage, Pa. Dick Sipp
(RV10) got in town 1st (drove down from Michigan) so he picked it
out on a drive by.....it worked out real well. Was a little
different seeing all the guys with their ties and sport coats on
instead of company colors, a tee shirt, or a hoodie. After a quick
meal we headed over to the Funeral Home. Nice turnout. Got to
(finally) meet Dan's best (Navy) friend Bobby. Bobby had just flown
with Dan in the RV10 from the Daytona, Fl. area (Jan Eggenfellner's)
to his home in Boston about a week ago. He said everywhere they
stopped that Dan kept saying how cool it was that they were flying
up the coast in the RV10 that he had built in his garage!! Imagine
that!!
The Funeral Home had a nice slideshow with music that was playing
quietly in the background . Lots of pictures of Dan in various
stages of his life, including many shots of him and his RV10 that we
had forwarded the other day (thanks to all for the pics).
We filled up 2 rows on the far side of the parlor. Those in
attendance were:
- Rick Gray
- Mike Stewart
- John Furey
- Bill Flaherty
- Gary Jasper
- Glen Miller
- Mike Allardyce
- Ty Pegues
- Dick Sipp
- Rob Logan
The permenant arrangement we sent looked real nice. I'll also
mention that as I walked around looking at all the flowers I noticed
an arrangement that had a card that read 'from Doug and Susie Reeves
@ Vansairforce.net'. Thanks Doug....very well received.
Seeing the look on Dan's (9 year old) son Cameron's face last night
was a sobering reminder of the gift of giving. Thanks again to all
of you that have donated (or will in the future) to the Dan Lloyd
Scholarship Fund for his children Becca and Cameron.
I'll wait a couple weeks then will give the money to Trish for the
fund. Again, if you wish to donate you can mail a check to:
Rick Gray
200 Baker Trail
Vincent, Ohio 45784
Of course, I'll provide Trish a list of names for the contributions.
We have 10 signatures on the Ohio Valley RVators hat so far. I'll
have it with me at the Birthday Party UFO this Saturday. I'll give
the hat to Trish along with the donations. Sure hope some of you
will join me.
I spoke with Trish a few times last night. Under the circumstances
she seemed to be holding up well. She (again) wanted me to thank the
entire group for all the prayers. Dan loved his RV10 and all
his 'RV' friends. His enthusiasm, knowledge, and friendship will
surely be missed.
See ya' soon Danno'!
Rick at the Buffalo Farm - BTW - Mike 'Kahuna' Stewart checked in
from his RV 'Super 8' night flight back to Lawrenceville, Ga around
11:30pm. He almost beat me home!! Dick 'Froggy' Sipp moteled it and
is driving 5+hrs back to Michigan this morning.
__._,_.___
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| Subject: | Re: Stuffed hole help |
Yep agreed on the heli-coil. When you cross threaded and re-tapped it you lost
some of the surface area for holding and I definitely would not rely on it as
is. Almost certain for it to vibrate loose. Depending on the actual location,
you might be able to drill and tap it with the next closest size in metric
also. But I would check with an engine builder to make sure you have enough material
before you do that.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:11 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Stuffed hole help
Ouch - I think the heli-coil insert would be #1 as Tim suggested
Might look for some high temp epoxy as a reinforcement. But that would make it
a one way repair. removal then would be impossible except with a bridge plate.
Locktite does not seem to have the lower viscosity taht you need
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OSH '08 or Bust
Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/uggg
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Temp |
Pacific Oil Coolers also has options for replacing the stock Niagara.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: High Oil Temp
It might be a pricey remedy, but how about Alex's higher capacity oil cooler?
Especially in the Central and souther tier of the country it might not be bad
to add 20% to the cooling capacity of the oil cooler
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OSH '08 or Bust
Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/uggg
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| Subject: | Re: Stuffed hole help |
For some reason, I'm not getting any RV10 original posts, just responses
(Matt?). Anyway, not knowing where the bad hole is, if it's an exterior
hole a regular heli-coil is fine. However, if it's an interior use the
locking heli-coil. These are noticeably different as the locking
heli-coil is red in color. If you look at it closely, you'll notice that
the interior threads have a flat segment on a couple of threads. Hopes
this helps.
Allen Barrett
Barrett Precision Engines, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Stuffed hole help
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Yep agreed on the heli-coil. When you cross threaded and re-tapped it
you lost some of the surface area for holding and I definitely would not
rely on it as is. Almost certain for it to vibrate loose. Depending on
the actual location, you might be able to drill and tap it with the next
closest size in metric also. But I would check with an engine builder
to make sure you have enough material before you do that.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:11 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Stuffed hole help
Ouch - I think the heli-coil insert would be #1 as Tim suggested
Might look for some high temp epoxy as a reinforcement. But that would
make it a one way repair. removal then would be impossible except with a
bridge plate.
Locktite does not seem to have the lower viscosity taht you need
--------
OSH '08 or Bust
Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/uggg
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144297#144297
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| Subject: | Re: -10 project for sale |
John,
We've love to talk to you about purchasing your RV10. Let us know what is
included.
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: High Oil Temp |
mritter509(at)msn.com wrote:
> I ordered the 2008X about two months ago. It's considerably bigger than the
bolt on replacement 2006X and will not mount on the firewall due to engine mount
interference. I sent the 2008X back and installed the 2006X. The oil temps
went down about 8 degrees. Also can climb at higher VS with the new cooler.
They did tell me if and when they figure out how to mount the 2008X in the RV-10
there would be a good trade-in arrangement.
>
> Mark
Thanks Deems, Fred and Mark. It's good to know exactly the models that will and
will not fit. Want to get it right the first time around.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
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| Subject: | Aftermarket brake lines |
Hey all -
Had minor surgery a few days ago, and I'm stuck resting at home. can't
really build, but I'm home from work. it's kind of like my own personal
hell. I'm slowly going crazy, and it's only been a couple days. I
figured i'd do brake lines, as that seems to be less strenuous than
sanding fiberglass. I went different from the factory setup, and
thought i'd share my findings. i've also completely re-done my website
for no good reason other than that I've been bored. if you had any
bookmarks, they probably don't work anymore. sorry. anyway, the
brakeline writeup is here:
http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/Aftermarket_Br
ake_Lines.html
cj
building an airplane - not sure what section anymore...
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | Simple strobe choices |
I have a simple question about strobe power packs. Is it worth getting
the cheaper packs, or not? For instance, in the two products below, they
seem to be identical in stats (not sure about weight or what materials
they are made from), however, one is 46% the price of the other.
$130
http://strobeguy.safeshopper.com/11/1806.htm?248
$282
http://www.creativair.com/strobe-power-supply-p-37.html
I realize the former is more intended for vehicle applications, however,
i know some plane builders are using them fine. Just curious what else i
am missing, as to why one is over 2x the other. Just wondering why else
i would pay the extra money, other than for the peace of mind effect?!
thanks!
Jae
#40533 -
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| Subject: | Aftermarket brake lines |
Very nice!
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Johnston
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Aftermarket brake lines
Hey all -
Had minor surgery a few days ago, and I'm stuck resting at home. can't
really build, but I'm home from work. it's kind of like my own personal
hell. I'm slowly going crazy, and it's only been a couple days. I
figured i'd do brake lines, as that seems to be less strenuous than
sanding fiberglass. I went different from the factory setup, and
thought i'd share my findings. i've also completely re-done my website
for no good reason other than that I've been bored. if you had any
bookmarks, they probably don't work anymore. sorry. anyway, the
brakeline writeup is here:
http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/Aftermarket_B
rake_Lines.html
cj
building an airplane - not sure what section anymore...
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | Simple strobe choices |
FWIW...
I bought the $130 power supply and decided to give it a shot. I haven't
tested it yet though so I cannot comment to its effectiveness. The mounting
holes on the Nova power packs fit the Van's kit made for the Whelen/ELT
mount though. No modifications necessary.
They are both very light weight and nearly identical in weight to the
Whelen's as well. My hunch (which is just that) is that the creativeair
unit is OEM's from Nova. My money is on (and already spent) the XPAK 604X.
If it blows up in short order I will spend more money on a different brand.
-Ben
#40579 (picking up the finish kit today!!!)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Simple strobe choices
I have a simple question about strobe power packs. Is it worth getting
the cheaper packs, or not? For instance, in the two products below, they
seem to be identical in stats (not sure about weight or what materials
they are made from), however, one is 46% the price of the other.
$130
http://strobeguy.safeshopper.com/11/1806.htm?248
$282
http://www.creativair.com/strobe-power-supply-p-37.html
I realize the former is more intended for vehicle applications, however,
i know some plane builders are using them fine. Just curious what else i
am missing, as to why one is over 2x the other. Just wondering why else
i would pay the extra money, other than for the peace of mind effect?!
thanks!
Jae
#40533 -
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| Subject: | Re: Aftermarket brake lines |
The pictures look just like mine on my RV-6A. They are wonderful, however ....
When doing taxi tests, every time I applied the brakes, there was a resonance
vibration that, within seconds, sheared the wheel fairing plate aluminum at the
mounting bolts. I changed pads, fairing plates, drained and refilled the system
4 (5? 10?) times, mounted a video cam on the step to film the destruction
and vibration, and basically went crazy for about five days. Talked to Vans,
sent them the video, ordered new plates (twice or three times), removed the
co-pilot brake system, rerouted tube, could drain and refill the entire system
in minutes. Then I changed to the aluminum tube like the plans show, and have
flown hundreds of wonderful, silent, hours. Van even wrote it up in the newsletter,
it was so weird.
So, if it works, great. If it does not, you can change it without a lot of
hours wasted. I looked at a couple of certified Cessna, and they have the same
as Van recommends, and some of those have been around since they invented airplanes.
Bruce Patton
Chris Johnston <CJohnston@popsound.com> wrote:
Hey all -
. anyway, the brakeline writeup is here:
http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/Aftermarket_Brake_Lines.html
cj
building an airplane - not sure what section anymore...
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | Re: Simple strobe choices |
http://strobeguy.safeshopper.com/90/2277.htm?265
this is the whole kit. even better value.
If you go with Creativeair. or the RV-7 one Deems has, get this setup and
buy the LED nav lights separately (get the brackets for the Creativeair ones
however)
Yes the strobe n more is the same thing and is half the price. Both are
reliable. I called the strobe guy and he told me there are dozens of these
out their and with no problem. XPAK and NOVA are good quality strobe packs.
Pascal
#720
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Simple strobe choices
>
> I have a simple question about strobe power packs. Is it worth getting the
> cheaper packs, or not? For instance, in the two products below, they seem
> to be identical in stats (not sure about weight or what materials they are
> made from), however, one is 46% the price of the other.
>
> $130
> http://strobeguy.safeshopper.com/11/1806.htm?248
>
> $282
> http://www.creativair.com/strobe-power-supply-p-37.html
>
> I realize the former is more intended for vehicle applications, however, i
> know some plane builders are using them fine. Just curious what else i am
> missing, as to why one is over 2x the other. Just wondering why else i
> would pay the extra money, other than for the peace of mind effect?!
>
> thanks!
>
> Jae
> #40533 -
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Second U-1002 Needed |
Just to let people know that N256H just got another U-1002 washer on the
front landing gear shock arm (sorry for the untechnical name for it). After
350 hours or so, the second washer went in without trouble. I don't know
the affect of not having it, but for those who have flown for this long
(probably more important the elapsed time since first installation, which is
just about 2.5 years now).
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | RV 10 for sale or trade |
I've owned 4 RV's and presently have a 10 I love flying. The problem is
that I have a new job and the airplane sits. I'd like to sell it or,
preferably, trade for a 7A or 9A plus cash. It's a beautiful 2006 IFR
certified 10, dual Cheltons, etc. The panel can be seen at steinair.com
- customer panels - Jim Sinkbeil and Jim Otey (Lewiston, ID). Pictures
and specs on request. Thanks for your time and happy building.
Steve Carlson
Spokane, Wa.
(509)534-5967
scbt@comcast.net
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| Subject: | Vegas/Nellis progress |
Just thought I'd drop a note so some of you who've written
me in the past couple days would know why you're not getting
the quick reply.
Just got down to Vegas today with Scott in 104XP joining up after
our stop to see them in SLC. Had an awesome scenic trip down
to Vegas today and got to meet up with Wayne and Bob. It's
looking to be good time for Aviation Nation.
Had some awful headwinds on the way over, so I'm hoping
they stay good and strong for our return now going
the other direction Sunday. Should be passing the
300 hour mark early into the next leg.
Attached is a quick pic of 104XP today. Will have many more
in the up and coming trip write-up.
Tim
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