---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/10/07: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:41 AM - Re: Vegas/Nellis progress (Robert Woods) 2. 09:10 PM - Budget Buys - Trainers (Robin Marks) 3. 09:55 PM - Re: Vegas/Nellis progress (Robert Woods) 4. 10:17 PM - Re: Budget Buys - Trainers (AirMike) 5. 10:44 PM - Re: Vegas/Nellis progress (Tim Olson) 6. 10:44 PM - Re: RV 10 for sale or trade (CHRISTOPHER HARRIS) 7. 11:11 PM - grounding question (Ben Westfall) 8. 11:15 PM - Re: Vegas/Nellis progress (Tim Olson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:55 AM PST US From: "Robert Woods" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vegas/Nellis progress Tim, A buddy and I are going to Aviation Nation on Sunday..........Call me if you want to meet....I would love to see Scott's plane. Robb..702-429-7291 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:12 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vegas/Nellis progress Does it allow Stronger the more you want to get there? we had over so knots on the way out. Would be nice to get That on the way home. Need to do the home leg in One day. The -10's seats make that easy. Tim > > Tim, did you not know that by definition, a Head Wind is the wind > that blows from your destination? I would not hold my breath for > good winds on your way back! > > Rob. > > Nice pic! > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:05 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Budget Buys - Trainers From: "Robin Marks" If you are interested in feeling even better about your decision to build & fly an RV-10 just browse the November issue of AOPA Pilot article titled "Bottom Line Four-Seaters." It details the bare minimum products offered by Cirrus, Piper, Diamond & Cessna. In most cases they are VFR only & fixed pitch. The biggest power plant is 200 Hp. A brief recap: Cirrus SR20 SRV-G2 VFR Only $200,000 Sales 6-10 / year! Want an Autopilot, GNS 430, Front wheel pant just add $60,000 to $257,000 200 Hp = Highest true airspeed, 150 Kts. Piper Archer Built for fleet sales so if you want on you have to group your purchase with another buyer. $230,000 for round gauges Want a glass cockpit just add $50K Final price $280,000 160 Hp = true airspeed, 128 Kts. Diamond DA40-FP G1000 panel $246,000 Fabric interior, no wheel pants, downgraded exhaust Again to get this price you have to "gang" your purchase with a bulk buy 180 Hp = true airspeed, 134 Kts Cessna 172R G1000 panel $220,000 160 Hp = true airspeed, 122 Kts 440 lbs max payload with full fuel for a 4 seat plane. Grab your three 100 pound friends and go flying. You only weigh 140 lbs right? I guess the only "advantage" over an RV-10 is they come fully assembled. Robin RV-10 BPE Engine Shipped ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:22 PM PST US From: "Robert Woods" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vegas/Nellis progress Hey Tim, A buddy and I are going to aviation nation on Sunday.........call if you want to meet Robb....702-429-7291 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: RV10-List: Vegas/Nellis progress Just thought I'd drop a note so some of you who've written me in the past couple days would know why you're not getting the quick reply. Just got down to Vegas today with Scott in 104XP joining up after our stop to see them in SLC. Had an awesome scenic trip down to Vegas today and got to meet up with Wayne and Bob. It's looking to be good time for Aviation Nation. Had some awful headwinds on the way over, so I'm hoping they stay good and strong for our return now going the other direction Sunday. Should be passing the 300 hour mark early into the next leg. Attached is a quick pic of 104XP today. Will have many more in the up and coming trip write-up. Tim do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:05 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Budget Buys - Trainers From: "AirMike" Personal notes: Before I signed onto the RV10, I looked into the Cirrus SR20. The Cirrus staff showed me the SR22-G3 that they were pushing with it's mega price tag, they all but refused to sell me an SR20. If you demand one they will start telling you how you have to wait a year, and that it is too much of a beginner's product. It is only for VFR and the autopilot sucks, etc, etc, etc. I think that they keep it in the line as a transition trainer for the sales staff and a few flight schools, but it is a phantom product. Not really available to you or me. I doubt that even one was sold to an individual this year. They are looking to sell the big profit planes - like the turbo. The Archer is a good honest plane (I owned one) but 120-125 knots is its real capability. The 172 is a slow beast but very safe. -------- OSH '08 or Bust Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/uggg Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144955#144955 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:01 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Vegas/Nellis progress From: "Tim Olson" cj, In parked at VGT but Wayne Edgerton and Scott Schmidt have their even more beautiful -10's at Nellis on display. I'm head in' out tomorrow a.m. so I couldn't participate. I will, however, be calling you in a bit re: your personal email! It's been an awesome trip so far and I can't wait to get it out on my site. Tomorrow may be a challenge too, so that always adds to the fun. Leave it to me to bring wind and rain to the desert. :) Tim do not archive > hey guys - a buddy of mine who works for red bull called me yesterday from > Vegas all excited and spouting praises for "these 2 beautiful RV-10s that > showed up there!" he described them, and i figured who the usual suspects > could be. nice to turn a few heads! > > cj > do not archive > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson > Sent: Thu 11/8/2007 9:47 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Vegas/Nellis progress > > Just thought I'd drop a note so some of you who've written > me in the past couple days would know why you're not getting > the quick reply. > > Just got down to Vegas today with Scott in 104XP joining up after > our stop to see them in SLC. Had an awesome scenic trip down > to Vegas today and got to meet up with Wayne and Bob. It's > looking to be good time for Aviation Nation. > > Had some awful headwinds on the way over, so I'm hoping > they stay good and strong for our return now going > the other direction Sunday. Should be passing the > 300 hour mark early into the next leg. > > Attached is a quick pic of 104XP today. Will have many more > in the up and coming trip write-up. > > Tim > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:10 PM PST US From: CHRISTOPHER HARRIS Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV 10 for sale or trade Steve, Please forward a couple int. and ext. photos to this address. Also an asking price without trade. Thanks, Chris Harris steve carlson wrote: I've owned 4 RV's and presently have a 10 I love flying. The problem is that I have a new job and the airplane sits. I'd like to sell it or, preferably, trade for a 7A or 9A plus cash. It's a beautiful 2006 IFR certified 10, dual Cheltons, etc. The panel can be seen at steinair.com - customer panels - Jim Sinkbeil and Jim Otey (Lewiston, ID). Pictures and specs on request. Thanks for your time and happy building. Steve Carlson Spokane, Wa. (509)534-5967 scbt@comcast.net ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:11:35 PM PST US From: "Ben Westfall" Subject: RV10-List: grounding question What are people doing for ground wires for the nav, landing, and pitot heat? Are you running separate wires for ground or grounding locally to the airframe? This might be somewhat of a "primer war" question as I've heard some say always run ground wires and others say ground locally. Aeroelectric says local ground for "non-noisy" items is fine. Just wondering what others have done. If airframe what kind of hardware do you use to get a solid ground connection? Do you use regular AN nuts bolts and washers or do you use something like a lock washer that has more bite maybe? Do you cover the nut/bolt with anything to slow any corrosion being that you need to clean the primer off the metal at the point of contact? Yes John I'll wipe the dust off the 43.13 :-) -Ben Westfall #40579 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vegas/Nellis progress From: "Tim Olson" Hi Robb, I'm headin home first thing tomorrow, but Scott will still be there. Today the people moving was miserable..hope you have an easier day than me. Tim > > Hey Tim, > > A buddy and I are going to aviation nation on Sunday.........call if you > want to meet > > Robb....702-429-7291 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Olson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:47 PM > Subject: RV10-List: Vegas/Nellis progress > > > Just thought I'd drop a note so some of you who've written > me in the past couple days would know why you're not getting > the quick reply. > > Just got down to Vegas today with Scott in 104XP joining up after > our stop to see them in SLC. Had an awesome scenic trip down > to Vegas today and got to meet up with Wayne and Bob. It's > looking to be good time for Aviation Nation. > > Had some awful headwinds on the way over, so I'm hoping > they stay good and strong for our return now going > the other direction Sunday. Should be passing the > 300 hour mark early into the next leg. > > Attached is a quick pic of 104XP today. Will have many more > in the up and coming trip write-up. > > Tim > do not archive > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.