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0. 12:33 AM - Comments (Matt Dralle)
1. 05:00 AM - Re: paint prices (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 06:28 AM - Re: Turner Checking In (Tim Olson)
3. 09:54 AM - Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak (Chuck Weyant)
4. 10:08 AM - Re: paint prices (Bruce Bluhm)
5. 12:37 PM - Re: Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak (David Hertner)
6. 12:53 PM - Re: Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak (Jesse Saint)
7. 01:23 PM - Landing Light Question (Bob Leffler)
8. 01:34 PM - Re: Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak (Tim Olson)
9. 04:24 PM - Re: RV-10 Total Flight Time - Submit yours (Marcus Cooper)
10. 05:51 PM - Re: Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak (AirMike)
11. 06:35 PM - Re: Landing Light Question (pilotdds@aol.com)
12. 06:39 PM - Re: Landing Light Question (Albert Gardner)
13. 07:01 PM - Re: Landing Light Question (Tim Olson)
14. 07:01 PM - Re: RV-10 Total Flight Time - Submit yours (Jesse Saint)
15. 07:22 PM - Re: Landing Light Question (Bill Gipson)
16. 08:11 PM - Re: RV-10 Total Flight Time - Submit yours (DejaVu)
17. 10:38 PM - Re: Landing Light Question (Steven DiNieri)
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| Subject: | Re: paint prices |
The last I heard Glo Custom Paint, Grady, on 52F in TX is charging
$10,000.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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| Subject: | Re: Turner Checking In |
Andy,
First, Welcome! It'll be great to have you (and your wife) involved
in the group. You definitely will enjoy your RV-10 more than the
Skyhawk once you're done....I'd have to bet you on that.
Regarding the rivets, I'd have to echo your other 2 replies.
I've found Van's callouts to usually be on the short side,
not the long. At times it made me wonder how they chose the
size they did....did they do it to save weight? (That's
humor, in case you missed it.) ;) During the construction
I largely used the rivet callouts per plans, as usually they
were do-able and you could go either way...theirs or
one-half size larger, and be OK with it. There are some
particular instances along the way though that you will probably
put the rivet in and decide you just want a longer rivet,
and as long as you're driving them right, that's fine.
Like the others said, use a rivet gauge for a while and after
a while you'll get an eye for them and only use the gauge
on one ever so often.
The most important part to use care on some of these rivet sizes
is where you have tabs on things like ribs. There are various
methods you can use during the rivet driving, but the trick is
to get the tab to lay flat so that the rivet doesn't expand
between the layers of metal. Usually if you do a good job
on those, the rivet callouts work fine too...those are just
some of the trickier ones to get.
Good luck and that's great that you're willing to dive right in
and ask questions. That's what this place is for.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Andy Turner wrote:
>
> Builder #40784 checking in here. Andy Turner, Clarion, Pennsylvania.
> I'm far enough into this process to see that I'll be asking more than
> few questions along the way, so it seems appropriate to say hi before
> I start asking for too much help. I'm a 2000 hr. private pilot,
> current owner of a C-172 and a C-140, both of which I enjoy a great
> deal. My wife Sharon is an enthusiastic aviator as well. We use the
> Skyhawk for cross-country travel, with several long trips each year,
> and see the RV-10 as an upgrade over the Skyhawk. On the personal
> side, I pay the bills by working as a college professor at Clarion
> University. My research focus is on the ecology of lakes and streams.
> Thus, I spend a lot of time both working and recreating outdoors.
> This time of year I spend my spare time hunting in the woods of
> western PA, so the RV-10 project will receive more attention once
> deer season is over in 2 weeks.
>
> One question has come up already: I just finished riveting the rear
> spar of the vertical stabilizer, and found that most of the rivet
> callouts seemed a bit long. I had a few bent-over rivets, and ended
> up going with a size shorter for most of the rear spar. I also found
> that my rivet gun handles the longer rivets better than a hand
> squeezer does. Am I the only one to find that the rivets called out
> in the plans often seem too long? Is a pneumatic squeezer less likely
> to bend-over rivets than a hand squeezer?
>
> -------- Andy Turner
>
> \
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| Subject: | Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak |
Pulled out the TruTrak Pitch Servo yesterday for install in my Ten. I found
the
"Installation & Users Manual" with no install instructions for the Servo.
Am I missing something? Went to the TruTrak website, "Documents &
Drawings" and found two photos. That's it. No instructions, no drawings,
and no measurements of any kind. Anyone else have this problem. If so,
what did you do? Install seems easy enough, but I'd feel better with
instructions
and they're closed over the Thanksgiving Holidays until Monday. Maybe
someone
has a copy they can email me?
Chuck
RV9A (flying)
RV10 (70% done, 70% left)
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The 10 is a different animal than the two seaters. The large fiberglass co
ckpit with its doors and windows makes it diffucult to get a quote without
seeing the airplane and discussing what extra fit and prep is desired or re
quired for a nice finished plane. The painter who did 805HL (Top Gun Refin
ishers) was on our base airport (Aurora, Nebraska) and we worked a deal whe
re we would do the finish work and they would stripe and paint the aircraft
. They also gave us advice on what still needed to be done for a good resu
lt. We thought it was ready to paint when we took it the first time and th
ey pointed out some areas where we could improve like pinholes, more unifor
m curves, juncture of fiberglass on the fuselage and elevators, etc. After
a month and a half of corrections and improvements we painted the plane.
So depending on how prepared the plane is for painting and how much of the
finishing you want the shop to do and to what finished state you expect the
result to be, the price can vary quite a bit. I would definately suggest
you talk to a paint shop who has expirence with RV's and go over all of the
above after they have looked at the plane before price is discussed. I be
lieve this area is much overlooked on our RV's. To the non-builder their i
mpression of the airplane is governed mostly by the paint job and the inter
ior. It takes another builder to really see the quality or lack of it beyo
nd these two items.
Bruce
805HL
110hrs
From: dlm46007@cox.netTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RV10-List: paint
pricesDate: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:31:57 -0700
what kind of quotes and recommendations have 10 builders for aircraft paint
? My plans are a base color of Jetglo matterhorn white and a trim color of
Acryglo deep marroon. Design will be basic. I am located AZ so places east
of the Mississippi don't compute. Any recommendations for western US.
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| Subject: | Re: Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak |
Chuck,
We have all had to muddle through this without clear instructions. The
best way I found was to go to Tim Olson's site and get a feeling about how
it installs. It is no more complicated than you think it is. You don't use
the bracket supplied by Van's.
Dave Hertner
40164 Putting Insulation on the Firewall
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak
>
> Pulled out the TruTrak Pitch Servo yesterday for install in my Ten. I
> found the
> "Installation & Users Manual" with no install instructions for the Servo.
> Am I missing something? Went to the TruTrak website, "Documents &
> Drawings" and found two photos. That's it. No instructions, no drawings,
> and no measurements of any kind. Anyone else have this problem. If so,
> what did you do? Install seems easy enough, but I'd feel better with
> instructions
> and they're closed over the Thanksgiving Holidays until Monday. Maybe
> someone
> has a copy they can email me?
> Chuck
> RV9A (flying)
> RV10 (70% done, 70% left)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak |
If I remember correctly, TruTrak will give you a more-or-less
measurement on drilling the hole. Gauging by the drawings you can get
a good idea of how to install it and where to drill. The instructions
certainly are lacking, though.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Nov 24, 2007, at 3:35 PM, David Hertner wrote:
>
> Chuck,
>
> We have all had to muddle through this without clear instructions.
> The best way I found was to go to Tim Olson's site and get a feeling
> about how it installs. It is no more complicated than you think it
> is. You don't use the bracket supplied by Van's.
>
> Dave Hertner
> 40164 Putting Insulation on the Firewall
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com
> >
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:54 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak
>
>
>> >
>>
>> Pulled out the TruTrak Pitch Servo yesterday for install in my
>> Ten. I found the
>> "Installation & Users Manual" with no install instructions for the
>> Servo.
>> Am I missing something? Went to the TruTrak website, "Documents &
>> Drawings" and found two photos. That's it. No instructions, no
>> drawings,
>> and no measurements of any kind. Anyone else have this problem.
>> If so,
>> what did you do? Install seems easy enough, but I'd feel better
>> with instructions
>> and they're closed over the Thanksgiving Holidays until Monday.
>> Maybe someone
>> has a copy they can email me?
>> Chuck
>> RV9A (flying)
>> RV10 (70% done, 70% left)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Landing Light Question |
I'm just getting ready to order my wings.
For those of you that are flying, would you make a different decision on
what lighting you installed or would you do the same thing in your next
aircraft?
I'm debating between the Duckworks HID in the leading edge or a HID in the
wingtip.
Thanks,
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak |
Chuck,
I wish I had something I could send you, but after having gone
through 3 total revisions of pitch trim mechanism, I really
don't have much to provide. The only real concern is where
you drill the hole in the bellcrank. All the rest is pretty
easy to set up and check out as you go along. The current
system I'm using is the one that has a wheel and a channel
with a cable. It's the one that has performed the best
so far. That one doesn't leave much that needs to be worried
about, as the arm is already delivered to length, so you just
adjust the rod ends. If you can get someone to mail you the
hole location, you should be good to go by using some
photos. Sorry 'bout that. If they ever produce some
documentation in .pdf form that is consistent, I'd love
to have it for my own archives.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Chuck Weyant wrote:
>
> Pulled out the TruTrak Pitch Servo yesterday for install in my Ten. I
> found the
> "Installation & Users Manual" with no install instructions for the Servo.
> Am I missing something? Went to the TruTrak website, "Documents &
> Drawings" and found two photos. That's it. No instructions, no drawings,
> and no measurements of any kind. Anyone else have this problem. If so,
> what did you do? Install seems easy enough, but I'd feel better with
> instructions
> and they're closed over the Thanksgiving Holidays until Monday. Maybe
> someone
> has a copy they can email me?
> Chuck
> RV9A (flying)
> RV10 (70% done, 70% left)
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 Total Flight Time - Submit yours |
Just re-cleaning the thread....
I'd like to kind of get a quick informal survey for a couple
days and see if we can find out what kind of hours we're
gathering as a fleet. If you have a flying RV-10, reply to this
post with your N-number and total hours and lets see what kind of
running total we can come up with in the next couple days. From there,
we can expand on it and make some wild assumptions about the fleet
based on about 110-115 flying. No major purpose for this, but it
seemed like a cool thing to do. If you know of other RV-10's that
may not post to the list, and want to post their numbers, go ahead.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
************************************
**** RV-10 total flying hours ****
**** (as of approx. 11/22-23/07 ****
************************************
TOTAL SO FAR: 2851 (16 of 110+)
** Wow, it looks like the fleet hours for the -10 are probably
well over 10,000 if we continue anywhere near this rate**
Hours N-Number
----- --------
310 N104CD
580 N64VC
155 K203JJ
85 N372RV
175 N728DD
20 ZK-RVT
86 N331DJ
290 N104XP
20 C-FMHP
340 N519RV
160 N410MR
85 N602WT
225 N610RV
70 C-FXCS
65 N184JM
185 N710RV
228 N585MR
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| Subject: | Re: Lack of Install Instructions TruTrak |
I had a bit of a go round a couple of weeks ago with TT on installation of the
pitch servo. To help out I printed an instruction manual. The top tech guy said
that he would edit my instructions and get back to me, but he is obviously busy
and never got back. The biggest problem that I had is with the spacer that
is tooooo long. My next post will be my UNEDITED instructions
--------
OSH '08 or Bust
Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/fiberglass stuff
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=148325#148325
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Light Question |
I have the wingtip lights supplied by vans,I have found them somewhat lackin
g on dark nights for both landing and taxiing.There appears to be a poorly l
it area directly in front of the pilot.I have adjusted them to max benefit,T
hey are usable but not great in my application.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
Sent: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 1:22 pm
Subject: RV10-List: Landing Light Question
I=99m just getting ready to order my wings.
=C2-
For those of you that are flying, would you make a different decision on wha
t lighting you installed or would you=C2- do the same thing in your next a
ircraft?
=C2-
I=99m debating between the Duckworks HID in the leading edge or a HID
in the wingtip.
=C2-
Thanks,
Bob
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| Subject: | Landing Light Question |
I'm not happy with the wingtip lights myself. If I try to get them to
converge toward the center so that the center stripe shows up, the
wingtip
blocks a lot of the light. I think I will add an additional light either
in
the cowl or in the leading edge of one wing. The light themselves are
bright
enough I think but leave a very dark area right in front of the plane.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
-----Original Message-----
I'm just getting ready to order my wings.
For those of you that are flying, would you make a different decision on
what lighting you installed or would you do the same thing in your next
aircraft?
I'm debating between the Duckworks HID in the leading edge or a HID in
the
wingtip.
Thanks,
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Light Question |
The leading edge lights by Duckworks align really well for me
with dual landing lights (one per side). It's no problem to
land on even a totally unlit runway if you can find your way
down to it. If you go that route though and you haven't painted
yet, I would just suggest cutting the holes and mounting the
brackets for both sides, even if you only put in one lamp.
You can always toss in a non-HID if you need to for cost
reasons, and change them later if you wish.
I know I've heard that there are going to be HID's for the
wingtips (of course, some can also go with the LoPresti
option, but talk to people before you try to do this with
tip tanks) but just due to things like the other answers
given by Albert, I'm not sure if from a light alignment
point of view you could do a great job covering the
angles you need. Also, mounted there, the actual beam
dimensions may become very critical if you want to get
light in front of the plane at all. Not saying it won't work,
but you might have more challenges ahead of you than the
leading edge lights.
I can see why leading edge lights would be intimidating to
convince yourself to cut the holes, but other than that,
I haven't found any reason that they aren't an ideal
location. The actual cutting process isn't a big deal either,
once you start it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Albert Gardner wrote:
> Im not happy with the wingtip lights myself. If I try to get them to
> converge toward the center so that the center stripe shows up, the
> wingtip blocks a lot of the light. I think I will add an additional
> light either in the cowl or in the leading edge of one wing. The light
> themselves are bright enough I think but leave a very dark area right in
> front of the plane.
>
> Albert Gardner
>
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Im just getting ready to order my wings.
>
> For those of you that are flying, would you make a different decision on
> what lighting you installed or would you do the same thing in your next
> aircraft?
>
> Im debating between the Duckworks HID in the leading edge or a HID in
> the wingtip.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 Total Flight Time - Submit yours |
N256H - 435hrs
N416EC - 340hrs
N110GS - 90hrs
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
Sent: 11/24/2007 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Total Flight Time - Submit yours
Just re-cleaning the thread....
I'd like to kind of get a quick informal survey for a couple
days and see if we can find out what kind of hours we're
gathering as a fleet. If you have a flying RV-10, reply to this
post with your N-number and total hours and lets see what kind of
running total we can come up with in the next couple days. From there,
we can expand on it and make some wild assumptions about the fleet
based on about 110-115 flying. No major purpose for this, but it
seemed like a cool thing to do. If you know of other RV-10's that
may not post to the list, and want to post their numbers, go ahead.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
************************************
**** RV-10 total flying hours ****
**** (as of approx. 11/22-23/07 ****
************************************
TOTAL SO FAR: 2851 (16 of 110+)
** Wow, it looks like the fleet hours for the -10 are probably
well over 10,000 if we continue anywhere near this rate**
Hours N-Number
----- --------
310 N104CD
580 N64VC
155 K203JJ
85 N372RV
175 N728DD
20 ZK-RVT
86 N331DJ
290 N104XP
20 C-FMHP
340 N519RV
160 N410MR
85 N602WT
225 N610RV
70 C-FXCS
65 N184JM
185 N710RV
228 N585MR
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| Subject: | Landing Light Question |
Check out the Aerosun LED landing lights. I've installed in my 10, yet to
fly. www.aeroleds.com
From: rv@thelefflers.comTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RV10-List: Land
ing Light QuestionDate: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:22:49 -0500
I=92m just getting ready to order my wings.
For those of you that are flying, would you make a different decision on wh
at lighting you installed or would you do the same thing in your next airc
raft?
I=92m debating between the Duckworks HID in the leading edge or a HID in th
e wingtip.
Thanks,
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Total Flight Time - Submit yours |
N591VU 110hours
Anh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Total Flight Time - Submit yours
>
>
>
>
> Just re-cleaning the thread....
>
> I'd like to kind of get a quick informal survey for a couple
> days and see if we can find out what kind of hours we're
> gathering as a fleet. If you have a flying RV-10, reply to this
> post with your N-number and total hours and lets see what kind of
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> based on about 110-115 flying. No major purpose for this, but it
> seemed like a cool thing to do. If you know of other RV-10's that
> may not post to the list, and want to post their numbers, go ahead.
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> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
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> **** RV-10 total flying hours ****
> **** (as of approx. 11/22-23/07 ****
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> TOTAL SO FAR: 2851 (16 of 110+)
> ** Wow, it looks like the fleet hours for the -10 are probably
> well over 10,000 if we continue anywhere near this rate**
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> 155 K203JJ
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> 20 C-FMHP
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| Subject: | Landing Light Question |
I am very interested in the shadowing of headlights from the wingtip
position. i have taken a lot of time and energy to develop and make a direct
replacement hid kit for the wingtip light position. as a matter of fact i
just received my stocking order last week (after 6 mo's of delay) and I've
been testing the product on the bench. the results have been very good. What
we ended up with was a 50watt 5000k hid lamp and ballast to drop in place
with no modifications required.
I'd like to recruit two flying rv10 owners who'd like to get a special deal
on some hid lights in exchange for some real world feedback on the kit. the
light output is awesome but if there is any coverage issues i may make a
fiberglass cowl light as a third. at 3.5 amp each running two or three
shouldn't pose ant problems from a current standpoint....
what has the general feeling been about the standard lights mounted in the
wingtips. this is the first i heard about light coverage (shadowing)
issues....
Steven dinieri
IFLYRV10.COM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Landing Light Question
The leading edge lights by Duckworks align really well for me with dual
landing lights (one per side). It's no problem to land on even a totally
unlit runway if you can find your way down to it. If you go that route
though and you haven't painted yet, I would just suggest cutting the holes
and mounting the brackets for both sides, even if you only put in one lamp.
You can always toss in a non-HID if you need to for cost reasons, and change
them later if you wish.
I know I've heard that there are going to be HID's for the wingtips (of
course, some can also go with the LoPresti option, but talk to people before
you try to do this with tip tanks) but just due to things like the other
answers given by Albert, I'm not sure if from a light alignment point of
view you could do a great job covering the angles you need. Also, mounted
there, the actual beam dimensions may become very critical if you want to
get light in front of the plane at all. Not saying it won't work, but you
might have more challenges ahead of you than the leading edge lights.
I can see why leading edge lights would be intimidating to convince yourself
to cut the holes, but other than that, I haven't found any reason that they
aren't an ideal location. The actual cutting process isn't a big deal
either, once you start it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Albert Gardner wrote:
> I'm not happy with the wingtip lights myself. If I try to get them to
> converge toward the center so that the center stripe shows up, the
> wingtip blocks a lot of the light. I think I will add an additional
> light either in the cowl or in the leading edge of one wing. The light
> themselves are bright enough I think but leave a very dark area right
> in front of the plane.
>
> Albert Gardner
>
> Yuma, AZ
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> I'm just getting ready to order my wings.
>
> For those of you that are flying, would you make a different decision
> on what lighting you installed or would you do the same thing in your
> next aircraft?
>
> I'm debating between the Duckworks HID in the leading edge or a HID in
> the wingtip.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
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