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1. 05:38 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Dimensions (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
2. 07:21 AM - Merry Christmas (Deems Davis)
3. 07:34 AM - Re: RV10 Winter Flying (Robin Marks)
4. 07:37 AM - Re: Merry Christmas (Phillips, Jack)
5. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Console above tunnel (John Gonzalez)
6. 08:19 AM - Re: Merry Christmas (Tim Olson)
7. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: Console above tunnel (David McNeill)
8. 08:34 AM - Re: Merry Christmas (Ed Mueller)
9. 08:46 AM - Re: Merry Christmas (John Gonzalez)
10. 09:10 AM - Strobe and Antenna Wire in Same Conduit (Chuck Weyant)
11. 09:19 AM - Re: Strobe and Antenna Wire in Same Conduit (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
12. 09:20 AM - Re: Console above tunnel (Dave Saylor)
13. 09:33 AM - Re: Merry Christmas (gjcostigan@alphabs.com)
14. 09:49 AM - Re: Merry Christmas (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
15. 09:53 AM - Merry Christmas (Fred Williams, M.D.)
16. 10:44 AM - Re: Favorite greasy belly cleaner ? (Gerry Filby)
17. 10:47 AM - Re: Merry Christmas (Ben Westfall)
18. 11:50 AM - Re: Merry Christmas (Paul Grimstad)
19. 02:00 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (William Curtis)
20. 02:02 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (John Testement)
21. 02:04 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (William Curtis)
22. 02:50 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (BPA)
23. 03:03 PM - Headset jacks (Chris and Susie McGough)
24. 03:24 PM - Re: Headset jacks (William Curtis)
25. 03:27 PM - Re: Headset jacks (Bob-tcw)
26. 04:00 PM - Re: Headset jacks (Amber Wilson)
27. 04:17 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (Marcus Cooper)
28. 04:17 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
29. 04:19 PM - Re: Strobe and Antenna Wire in Same Conduit (Marcus Cooper)
30. 05:37 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (John W. Cox)
31. 05:38 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (Dave Leikam)
32. 05:41 PM - Re: collision avoidance (RV10 4JF)
33. 06:37 PM - Re: Merry Christmas forgetting our first wives (Pascal)
34. 06:37 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (ddddsp1@juno.com)
35. 06:42 PM - Wiring (Don McDonald)
36. 07:01 PM - Re: Re: collision avoidance (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
37. 07:05 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (John Dunne)
38. 07:34 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (AirMike)
39. 07:39 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
40. 10:52 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (Steven DiNieri)
41. 10:59 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (Patrick ONeill)
42. 11:12 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (Bill Reining)
43. 11:30 PM - R: Re: Merry Christmas (PRINCO)
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| Subject: | Instrument Panel Dimensions |
Les,
I also decided that I wanted the EFIS centered in front of the pilot
seat. Like was suggested earlier, I have a second screen just to the
right of that and a third centered on the right side front seat. This
makes the radio stack a natural fit immediately right of the center
panel rib. This sort of layout will likely require that you trim &
reinforce the outboard panel rib(s) for clearance of the screen(s).
I also started out with Panel Planner and it was helpful. I was however
disappointed to find out that the dimensional info isn't quite right for
the RV-10 panel. I iterated a couple of times with the folks to try to
get it right but in the end used that only as a visual guide and
manually measured/cut my panel. They may have updated the panel
definition by now - that was last spring.
Bob #40105
(getting close...)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Instrument Panel Dimensions
Bill
I have been playing with layouts, online, for a couple of weeks. What
you select as an EFIS setup seems to drive the placement everything
else. With the smaller GRT screens, you could have two independent efis
screens side by side with the primary display directly in front and the
second to the right displaying a moving map. That drives everything else
to the right. The beauty of this is that it would allow the second efis
to be used as a backup if the primary screen had a brain fart.
With the larger AFS Efis screens, it seems that the only reasonable
layout is to have one centered in front of the pilot and one in front of
the co-pilot. That would be fine if both seats had pilots. Otherwise, in
the event of a failure on the pilot's side, it would seem that using the
co-pilots' screen as a backup would be problematic.
Decisions, decisions.....
I just pickup up a copy of the Panel Planner software to help my panel
design process. Embedded in the software is an article from Kitplane
Magazine from 1999. I found the same article online (unfortunately
without the pictures) but it still has a few pearls. I especially took
note of the issues around positioning of switches. The following link
will get you to the article.
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-9339593_ITM
Cheers
Les
#40643
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver
Sent: December-19-07 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Instrument Panel Dimensions
Off center being an annoyance is an interesting idea... but I've been
flying behind an asymmetrical, off center steam gauge panel for awhile.
Don't even think about it. Not sure an EFIS changes that. Inquiring
minds want to know.
Symmetry is a beautiful thing - but it occurs to me that it's not as
simple as a perfectly centered screen or array of gauges. There's a
functional symmetry and a perceived symmetry and not sure what else.
The best looking panels seem to have the panels stacked in front of the
pilot or split between pilot and copilot. But having to dip my head to
see the bottom panel will annoy me to no end when in the clouds.
I just spent the day pasting instrument pics to my panel. Very
interesting.
Bill Watson
40605
Les Kearney wrote:
Hi
Over the past couple of weeks I have been playing with panel layouts.
What I don't know is what the exact center of vision is offset from the
center of the RV10 stock panel. I have a pretty good idea of where it is
but was wondering if anyone has an exact measurement.
I would hate to have my EFIS off center as it would annoy me to no end
every time I flew.
Inquiring minds need to know...
Cheers & Merry Christmas to all
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Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
Deems Davis #406
warning what follows is off topic.
PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
thought I'd post here to save some time.
Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the
events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a
small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was
terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10
community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long
and having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home
was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the associated
medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/studies
published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. And
despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance
with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during
a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If
they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other
than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
community.
Deems #406
'Now where was I.......?'
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| Subject: | RV10 Winter Flying |
Dean,
Thanks for the post. Can you please explain the EGT
readout on your DYNON? Especially the last readout (1,1,2,3,4,8)
I was not aware the D-100 displayed EMS data. Is that
part of the D-100 or is it just presenting data collected from your
D-120? Regardless, VERY cool! We are so lucky to have these avionics
choices vs. just a few short years ago. And I am glad I am not flying in
a 35 year old Cessna with it's equally old cracked plastic covered panel
and 126 kt cruise.
Thanks,
Robin
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Winter Flying
Just posted on VAF data from recent flight to SteinAir for those
requesting. Pics show Dynon Lean Mode and all cylinders LOP on O-540.
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Merry Christmas, Deems. Sorry to hear about your "episode". Too bad
this had to happen when you are so close to flying your RV-10.
Hopefully all will work out for the best.
If you learn how to start such an episode, let me know. There are a few
days of my memory I wouldn't mind deleting from my files (the day I
married my second wife, for example...).
Jack Phillips, PE
Sr. Manager, Disposable Products Research & Development
Cardinal Health Clinical Technologies & Services
Creedmoor, NC
(919) 528-5212
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
Deems Davis #406
warning what follows is off topic.
PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
thought I'd post here to save some time.
Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the
events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a
small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was
terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10
community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long
and having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home
was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the associated
medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/studies
published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. And
despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance
with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during
a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If
they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other
than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
community.
Deems #406
'Now where was I.......?'
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| Subject: | RE: Console above tunnel |
Lynn,
I have to agree with Dave, there should never be a time when the sticks sho
uld interfere with any other structure. Yes, most likely we will never use
full deflection at any reasonable time in our flying, but it would be hard
to remember this tid bit of information when say trying to avoid a surprise
...as in midair collision. So one forgets, and then in your haste, you real
ized you survived the crash but the stick is stuck underneath something and
you can't get it to go the other way.
Yes stastically it won't happen, but because it can, gives reason to consid
er it strongly.
JOhn G.
0-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: RV10-List: RE: Console above tunnel
Dave Saylor wrote:
I used the wood grips from Vans and cut my sticks as short as possible. Ev
en so, I was not able to get full forward right stick.And what outside aero
batic maneuver would you be trying to accomplish??? :-\
At that point I had only the left stick in place. I was using the stock
engine control bracket under the instrument panel crossbar. So, I moved th
e bracket to the right a bit (maybe 1/2"-1") to get full travel. When I pu
t the right stick in, again using Van's wood grips and the shortest possibl
e stick length, I was able to hook the right stick into the space between t
he mixture and the throttle. Not good.I would agree, but why would you eve
n get close to full forward stick, much less right or left aileron? Planni
ng on taking your -10 on the aerobatic circuit, are ya??? :-D
So, I bought the quadrant and will see how it affect stick travel. $$ an
d work at this point but better than locked controls!But much easier (and c
heaper) to limit the stick travel. There are many reasons why you'd want f
ull aft stick, but I can't think of anytime I'd want to use full forward st
ick.Linndo not archive.
Eric, that's a beautiful console but I think you may have some interferance
.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Deems,
I really hope you convince yourself to stay on with the RV-10
project. You're a tremendous asset to the community, and
a great guy to boot.
Please, don't take offense. You know me, I try to look
for humor in everything...the funniest times in my life
have been some of the ones where I was bleeding from something. ;)
Now: I think you should look at this as an "opportunity". You
know, you, of everyone, are the king of the "mod" or "improvement".
So, if ANYONE can stretch an RV-10 build out by another year,
I'm sure you can. Heck, what you think was only a couple weeks
left could have easily been 6 months anyway, while you perfected
things. So my take on it is, you're just going to be forced to
have the nicest RV-10 out there!
Jack,
I haven't figured out how I did it yet, but I was able to
remove 95% of my memories of school...pre-college. Not much
of that time period in school was too fun, so I'm not
disappointed with that. It leaves me more time to focus on
the present, which I have to say is MUCH more interesting.
I did retain the memory of all the fun things in those
years though.
I also successfully removed almost all memories of my first
marriage, which is a real bonus!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Phillips, Jack wrote:
>
> Merry Christmas, Deems. Sorry to hear about your "episode". Too bad
> this had to happen when you are so close to flying your RV-10.
> Hopefully all will work out for the best.
>
> If you learn how to start such an episode, let me know. There are a few
> days of my memory I wouldn't mind deleting from my files (the day I
> married my second wife, for example...).
>
> Jack Phillips, PE
> Sr. Manager, Disposable Products Research & Development
> Cardinal Health Clinical Technologies & Services
> Creedmoor, NC
> (919) 528-5212
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:18 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
>
>
> Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
> family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
> help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
> CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
>
> Deems Davis #406
>
>
> warning what follows is off topic.
>
> PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
> occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
> thought I'd post here to save some time.
>
> Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
> medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
> permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
> emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the
> events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
>
> I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a
> small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was
> terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
>
> new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
> life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10
> community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
>
> during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
> aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
> experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long
> and having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
>
> weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
>
> The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
> community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
> residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
> recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
> population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home
> was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the associated
> medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/studies
> published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. And
> despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
> more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
>
> After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
>
> begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
> related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
>
> my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
>
> may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance
> with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
> precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
> neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during
> a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
> aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
> within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
> time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
> note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
> months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
> about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
>
> So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If
> they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
>
> I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
> want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
> John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
> mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other
> than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
>
>
> If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
> organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
> of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
> community.
>
>
> Deems #406
>
> 'Now where was I.......?'
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Console above tunnel |
Check travel after the ailerons and elevators are rigged. They move a lot
more than when stopped by the control surfaces.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: Console above tunnel
Lynn,
I have to agree with Dave, there should never be a time when the sticks
should interfere with any other structure. Yes, most likely we will never
use full deflection at any reasonable time in our flying, but it would be
hard to remember this tid bit of information when say trying to avoid a
surprise...as in midair collision. So one forgets, and then in your haste,
you realized you survived the crash but the stick is stuck underneath
something and you can't get it to go the other way.
Yes stastically it won't happen, but because it can, gives reason to
consider it strongly.
JOhn G.
_____
From: pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: Console above tunnel
Dave Saylor wrote:
I used the wood grips from Vans and cut my sticks as short as possible.
Even so, I was not able to get full forward right stick.
And what outside aerobatic maneuver would you be trying to accomplish??? :-\
At that point I had only the left stick in place. I was using the stock
engine control bracket under the instrument panel crossbar. So, I moved the
bracket to the right a bit (maybe 1/2"-1") to get full travel. When I put
the right stick in, again using Van's wood grips and the shortest possible
stick length, I was able to hook the right stick into the space between the
mixture and the throttle. Not good.
I would agree, but why would you even get close to full forward stick, much
less right or left aileron? Planning on taking your -10 on the aerobatic
circuit, are ya??? :-D
So, I bought the quadrant and will see how it affect stick travel. $$ and
work at this point but better than locked controls!
But much easier (and cheaper) to limit the stick travel. There are many
reasons why you'd want full aft stick, but I can't think of anytime I'd want
to use full forward stick.
Linn
do not archive.
Eric, that's a beautiful console but I think you may have some interferance.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Merry Christmas, Deems.
It's hard to know what to say. At least the FAA seems far more
tolerant of medical problems today than 20 years ago when I started
flying. We are all rooting for you.
Ed Mueller
#40525
On Dec 20, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Deems Davis wrote:
>
> Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
> family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for
> the help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
> CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
>
> Deems Davis #406
>
>
> warning what follows is off topic.
>
> PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
> occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
> thought I'd post here to save some time.
>
> Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'.
> The medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
> permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
> emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of
> the events that transpired during the episode are comical in
> retrospect, but I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the
> time. I have a small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what
> I recall was terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the
> ability to form new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned
> this was not a life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation,
> the RV-10 community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in
> the hospital during which I resigned myself to selling the project and
> retiring from aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look
> favorably on the experience. Needless to say, having had this
> dream/ambition for so long and having postponed it during the
> family/career years, and to be within weeks of realizing it, I've been
> a little bummed these past few days.
>
> The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
> community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
> residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
> recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
> population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at
> home was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the
> associated medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical
> papers/studies published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a
> layman can. And despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm
> becoming more and more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
>
> After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I
> have begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
> related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but,
> during my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've
> learned that it may be possible with a special issuance medical to
> continue my romance with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants
> to wait 1 year as a precaution to ensure that the episode is not
> masking any other neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this
> the other day during a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is
> exclusively dedicated to aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the
> data from the hospital within a week or two so as to have it ready,
> when / if special issuance time comes around. So for now, I'm
> grounded. As of the writing of this note, I'm inclined to continue and
> somehow find a way to stretch 1-2 months of remaining work into 12 and
> not go crazy each time I read/hear about one of the expected 100
> completion's I expect we'll see next year. So for the time being, the
> updates may be slower to non-existent. If they resume, Their frequency
> will likely be reduced.
>
> I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
> want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject
> of John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically
> and mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities
> (other than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
>
>
> If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
> organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
> of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
> community.
>
>
> Deems #406
>
> 'Now where was I.......?'
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
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Very easy solution. Keep building while your wonderful wife who has loved y
ou tremendously and who will continue to love you, shows you her love again
by getting her pilot's license. Every pilot needs a good co pilot, I'll le
ave the decision of who gets to play which role up to you.
Keep pluggin away, great to hear it is not life threatening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John G.> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:17:49 -0700> From: deemsdavis@cox.net> T
o: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas> > --> RV10
-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>> > Over the past
2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation > family, and so it's
only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the > help and support I'v
e received from you and to wish you a MERRY > CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR>
> Deems Davis #406> > > warning what follows is off topic.> > PS. Some hav
e noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been > occurring. I'm
receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I > thought I'd post
here to save some time.> > Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a di
squalifying event'. The > medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). I
n lay terms I > permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took m
e to the > emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description
of the > events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospe
ct, but > I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have
a > small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was >
terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form >
new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a > li
fe-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10 > community a
nd my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital > during whic
h I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from > aviation as
I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the > experience. Need
less to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long > and having postpo
ned it during the family/career years, and to be within > weeks of realizin
g it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.> > The good news is th
at TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical > community, as to cause, ap
pears to be completely benign, with no > residual health effects or implica
tions, and the likelihood of > recurrence for me is only marginally greater
than the general > population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I
did once at home > was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the
associated > medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/st
udies > published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. A
nd > despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
> more convinced of the favorable prognosis.> > After taking a couple of da
ys to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have > begun to wrestle with the p
ersonal decision regarding my aviation > related future. I won't bother you
with the decision process but, during > my research of FAA Flight Surgeon
advisory letters, I've learned that it > may be possible with a special iss
uance medical to continue my romance > with aviation, the downside is that
the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a > precaution to ensure that the episode i
s not masking any other > neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of thi
s the other day during > a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exc
lusively dedicated to > aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data
from the hospital > within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if
special issuance > time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the w
riting of this > note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to s
tretch 1-2 > months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I
read/hear > about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see n
ext year. > So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existen
t. If > they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.> > I debated o
n whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't > want to 'disapp
ear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of > John Cox whimsic
al posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and > mentally OK, ther
e are no restrictions on any of my activities (other > than piloting) and t
here is no treatment required or necessary.> > > If I decide to continue pe
rhaps I'd use some of next year to help > organize and work on an RV-10 Pil
oting and Safety program. The content > of such a program would obviously r
equire considerable input from the > community.> > > Deems #406> > 'Now whe
==============> > >
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| Subject: | Strobe and Antenna Wire in Same Conduit |
Has anyone run their Strobe wire and Antenna wire in the same wing
conduit? Any interference or other problems? My Electronics guru says
there should be none since all wires are shielded. Anyone?
Chuck
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| Subject: | Re: Strobe and Antenna Wire in Same Conduit |
The strobe wire and nav antenna coax are in the same bundle on the way out
to the wingtip on my RV-10. If I remember right, I believe I can hear the
faintest tick-tick-tick from the strobes when listening to NAV audio. It's hardly
noticeable.
-Jim
N312JE
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
_http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew
In a message dated 12/20/2007 12:12:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
chuck@chuckdirect.com writes:
Has anyone run their Strobe wire and Antenna wire in the same wing conduit?
Any interference or other problems? My Electronics guru says there should
be none since all wires are shielded. Anyone?
Chuck
_ (http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew)
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| Subject: | RE: Console above tunnel |
>> And what outside aerobatic maneuver would you be trying to accomplish???
:-\ <<
Landing in a gusty crosswind, recovering from wake turbulence, avoiding a
mid-air, dealing with a bird strike...<8-O
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Deems,
Having met you at Osh Kosh and been a frequent visitor to your web site, I for
one would greatly miss the help and support that you have provided. There are
always alternatives and more than one solution to problems. Take some time and
consider things. I'm sure that you will come up with something to either get
you in the air or to keep you motivated and working improving your 10. In reality,
a year is not a long time.
Merry Christmas,
George Costigan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:17:49 -0700
>
>
>
> Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
> family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for
> the help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
> CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
>
> Deems Davis #406
>
>
> warning what follows is off topic.
>
> PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't
> been occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about
> why, so I thought I'd post here to save some time.
>
> Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'.
> The medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
> permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
> emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of
> the events that transpired during the episode are comical in
> retrospect, but I assure you there was nothing funny about it at
> the time. I have a small recognition of the onset of the episode,
> and what I recall was terrifying. Once the episode passed, and
> memory, and the ability to form new memory returned, my biggest
> concern once I learned this was not a life-threatening event was my
> future wrt to aviation, the RV-10 community and my project. I spent
> a very sleepless night in the hospital during which I resigned
> myself to selling the project and retiring from aviation as I
> suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the experience.
> Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long and
> having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be
> within weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past
> few days.
>
> The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
> community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
> residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
> recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
> population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at
> home was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the
> associated medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical
> papers/studies published on the syndrome, learned about as much as
> a layman can. And despite the initial anxiety that this produced,
> I'm becoming more and more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
>
> After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I
> have begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my
> aviation related future. I won't bother you with the decision
> process but, during my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory
> letters, I've learned that it may be possible with a special
> issuance medical to continue my romance with aviation, the downside
> is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a precaution to ensure that
> the episode is not masking any other neurological anomalies. I've
> confirmed all of this the other day during a consultation with my
> AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to aviation
> medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital within
> a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
> time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of
> this note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to
> stretch 1-2 months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each
> time I read/hear about one of the expected 100 completion's I
> expect we'll see next year. So for the time being, the updates may
> be slower to non-existent. If they resume, Their frequency will
> likely be reduced.
>
> I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I
> didn't want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the
> subject of John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am
> physically and mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my
> activities (other than piloting) and there is no treatment required
> or necessary.
>
>
> If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
> organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The
> content of such a program would obviously require considerable
> input from the community.
>
>
> Deems #406
>
> 'Now where was I.......?'
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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Deems,
All I can say is that I hope all works out and they don't delay your
medical beyond a reasonable special issuance timeline. I can't even
imagine your emotions as you thought the dream had been shattered.
Now, as to the next year or so... I have some remaining fiberglass
finishing work that you would be extremely well suited for...
Take care and best wishes.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
Deems Davis #406
warning what follows is off topic.
PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
thought I'd post here to save some time.
Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the
events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a
small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was
terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10
community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long
and having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home
was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the associated
medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/studies
published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. And
despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance
with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during
a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If
they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other
than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
community.
Deems #406
'Now where was I.......?'
do not archive
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Deems;
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I just cant wait to hear about all
the neat gizmos and stuff you will be adding to your plane this year.
(what was that gross wt limitation again?)
To everybody else on the list. Merry xmas and happy new year.
Dr Fred.
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| Subject: | Favorite greasy belly cleaner ? |
Thanks all for the suggestions ...
I happen to have a big can of WD-40 lying around - it seems to work a treat
!!
g
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DejaVu
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Favorite greasy belly cleaner ?
Joe Zac suggested WD-40 sometime back. Works great.
Anh
N591VU-115hrs
In the middile of Condition Inspection
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Favorite greasy belly cleaner ?
>
>
>
> Windex contains ammonia, which is bad for aircraft and plexi. IIRC 409
> also is corrosive.
>
> On Dec 18, 2007 8:53 PM, Dave Leikam <DAVELEIKAM@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> What about good old Windex or 409? I do not know if either of these
>> would
>> hurt AL however. They are both good, mild grease cutters.
>>
>> Dave Leikam
>> 40496
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gerry Filby" <gerf@gerf.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:35 PM
>> Subject: RV10-List: Favorite greasy belly cleaner ?
>>
>>
>> >
>> > (Its a little off topic since it relates to my RV-9)
>> >
>> > Do you guys have a favorite cleaner for the "greasy belly" ? I've
>> > heard
>> > of
>> > the Stoddard cleaner which is supposed to be pretty evil stuff. Simple
>> > Green apparently has issues if used on bare aluminum. There's such a
>> > range
>> > of products on Spruce that I don't know where to start ...
>> >
>> > Gerry
>> > http://www.n747wg.com
>> > (Haven't opened the box yet.)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Glad to hear you are OK. I'll whack John Cox if he gets out of line. I am
sure there are a ton of volunteers to help with the flyoff time while you
are grounded!
-Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
Deems Davis #406
warning what follows is off topic.
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Deems
I am thankful that you are okay and look forward to a long and continuing
association with our wonderful RV10 family.
I think back to the time when Tim Olsen was about to finish his plane and
start flying. I was concerned for a short time that we were going to lose a
wonderful go-to guy from the ranks of builder to that of a pilot and watch
his contact and involvement slowly fade away. Thankfully, Tim is as active
as ever and I trust Deems that you will be doing the same.
Get that beautiful piece of aeronautical workmanship into the air so that
when your all signed off you'll be ready to jump in and go.
Merry Christmas,
Paul Grimstad
RV10 40450
Portland, Or.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:17 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
>
> Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
> family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
> help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY CHRISTMAS
> and HAPPY NEW YEAR
>
> Deems Davis #406
>
>
> warning what follows is off topic.
>
> PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
> occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
> thought I'd post here to save some time.
>
> Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
> medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I permanently
> 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the emergency room
> where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the events that
> transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but I assure you
> there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a small recognition
> of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was terrifying. Once the
> episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form new memory returned,
> my biggest concern once I learned this was not a life-threatening event
> was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10 community and my project. I spent
> a very sleepless night in the hospital during which I resigned myself to
> selling the project and retiring from aviation as I suspected that the FAA
> would not look favorably on the experience. Needless to say, having had
> this dream/ambition for so long and having postponed it during the
> family/career years, and to be within weeks of realizing it, I've been a
> little bummed these past few days.
>
> The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
> community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no residual
> health effects or implications, and the likelihood of recurrence for me is
> only marginally greater than the general population. When I was released
> Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home was to begin my own research
> courtesy of Google, and the associated medical & FAA databases. I've read
> numerous medical papers/studies published on the syndrome, learned about
> as much as a layman can. And despite the initial anxiety that this
> produced, I'm becoming more and more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
>
> After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
> begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation related
> future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during my
> research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it may
> be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance with
> aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
> precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
> neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during a
> consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
> aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
> within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
> time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
> note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
> months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
> about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
> So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If they
> resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
>
> I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't want
> to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of John
> Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
> mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other than
> piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
>
>
> If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help organize
> and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content of such a
> program would obviously require considerable input from the community.
>
>
> Deems #406
>
> 'Now where was I.......?'
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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Deems,
I wish you the best and while anytime would be unfortunate for this type of event,
this time of year is especially unfortunate to hear news like this. I hope
for a pleasant outcome and that you will once again be able to achieve the fruition
of your dream. After you have done all your research on the subject are
are comfortable, I highly encourage you to complete the aircraft, even if you
have to have someone else fly off the test period so that once the FAA is satisfied,
you can then continue your dream. Through some particularly trying
times in my life, working on my -10 was just the distraction I needed to keep
my mind occupied, productive and possibly kept me from falling down the slippery
slope of despair. Best wishes, good luck, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy
New Year.
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those
who matter don't mind."
-- Dr. Suess
-------- Original Message --------
>
> Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
> family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
> help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
> CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
>
> Deems Davis #406
>
>
> warning what follows is off topic.
>
> PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
> occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
> thought I'd post here to save some time.
>
> Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
> medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
> permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
> emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the
> events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
> I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a
> small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was
> terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
> new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
> life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10
> community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
> during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
> aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
> experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long
> and having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
> weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
>
> The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
> community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
> residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
> recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
> population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home
> was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the associated
> medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/studies
> published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. And
> despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
> more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
>
> After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
> begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
> related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
> my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
> may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance
> with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
> precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
> neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during
> a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
> aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
> within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
> time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
> note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
> months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
> about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
> So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If
> they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
>
> I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
> want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
> John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
> mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other
> than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
>
>
> If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
> organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
> of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
> community.
>
>
> Deems #406
>
> 'Now where was I.......?'
>
>
> do not archive
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Deems,
I am so sorry to hear about your situation. I'm pleased that it is not
medically serious for you, but I cant imagine the frustration around your RV
dream. Just for the record our RV is taking a year longer than planned,
mostly due to a slow, part time painter. This has allowed me to do a lot
more detail on the interior while he paints individual sections.
Happy holidays!!
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Paint prep, interior, and LOTS of little stuff
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillips, Jack
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
--> <Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com>
Merry Christmas, Deems. Sorry to hear about your "episode". Too bad this
had to happen when you are so close to flying your RV-10.
Hopefully all will work out for the best.
If you learn how to start such an episode, let me know. There are a few
days of my memory I wouldn't mind deleting from my files (the day I married
my second wife, for example...).
Jack Phillips, PE
Sr. Manager, Disposable Products Research & Development Cardinal Health
Clinical Technologies & Services Creedmoor, NC
(919) 528-5212
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation family,
and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the help and
support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY
NEW YEAR
Deems Davis #406
warning what follows is off topic.
PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
thought I'd post here to save some time.
Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I permanently
'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the emergency room where
they did their diagnostics. Her description of the events that transpired
during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a small
recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was terrifying.
Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10 community
and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long and
having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical community,
as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no residual health
effects or implications, and the likelihood of recurrence for me is only
marginally greater than the general population. When I was released Thurs.
the 1st thing I did once at home was to begin my own research courtesy of
Google, and the associated medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous
medical papers/studies published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a
layman can. And despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming
more and more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation related
future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance with
aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a precaution
to ensure that the episode is not masking any other neurological anomalies.
I've confirmed all of this the other day during a consultation with my AME,
Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to aviation medicine). I'll begin
collecting the data from the hospital within a week or two so as to have it
ready, when / if special issuance time comes around. So for now, I'm
grounded. As of the writing of this note, I'm inclined to continue and
somehow find a way to stretch 1-2 months of remaining work into 12 and not
go crazy each time I read/hear about one of the expected 100 completion's I
expect we'll see next year.
So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If they
resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't want to
'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of John Cox
whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and mentally OK,
there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other than piloting) and
there is no treatment required or necessary.
If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help organize
and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content of such a
program would obviously require considerable input from the community.
Deems #406
'Now where was I.......?'
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Whew, I'd like to forget the first wife! Hopefully I will have learned before
I get to the second wife:-)
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those
who matter don't mind."
-- Dr. Suess
-------- Original Message --------
> If you learn how to start such an episode, let me know. There are a few days
of my memory I wouldn't mind deleting from my files (the day I married my second
wife, for example...).
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I HAVE forgotten my first wife. Some day I'll bump into her and her
husband. When I do, I'll shake his hand and tell him "you're a better
man than me" :)
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Curtis
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
Whew, I'd like to forget the first wife! Hopefully I will have learned
before I get to the second wife:-)
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't
matter and those who matter don't mind."
-- Dr. Suess
-------- Original Message --------
<Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com>
> If you learn how to start such an episode, let me know. There are a
few days of my memory I wouldn't mind deleting from my files (the day I
married my second wife, for example...).
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OK dumb question with headset jacks.....Headphone and mic jacks have the
same number of terminals but one has a larger hole than the other. So which
one is Mic and headphone
regards Chris
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The smaller one is the mic. The outer is ground, the "tip" is the PTT and the
"ring" is mic audio.
The larger one is the earphone. The outer is ground, the "tip" is earphone audio
left, the "ring" is earphone audio right.
Most don't wire the "tip" on the microphone jack, but the benefit of wiring it
is that that in a pinch, you can connect a regular hand mic with a PTT into the
jack and it will work.
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those
who matter don't mind."
-- Dr. Suess
-------- Original Message --------
> X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
>
>
>
> OK dumb question with headset jacks.....Headphone and mic jacks have the
> same number of terminals but one has a larger hole than the other. So which
> one is Mic and headphone
>
> regards Chris
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Headset jacks |
The bigger one is for the headphones. 1/4" diameter.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:02 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Headset jacks
> <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>
>
> OK dumb question with headset jacks.....Headphone and mic jacks have the
> same number of terminals but one has a larger hole than the other. So
> which one is Mic and headphone
>
> regards Chris
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Headset jacks |
The larger is for the Headphones quarter inch if I recall correctly.
JP Instruments
Amber Wilson
FAA STC Administrator
JPIAmber@yahoo.com
800-945-4574 X204
----- Original Message ----
From: Chris and Susie McGough <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:02:33 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Headset jacks
OK dumb question with headset jacks.....Headphone and mic jacks have the
same number of terminals but one has a larger hole than the other. So which
one is Mic and headphone
regards Chris
Looking for last minute shopping deals?
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Deems,
First, I hope you are motivated by the support from all of the responses
on the list. You have made some huge contributions and I appreciate your
words. I am impressed by your phenomenal attitude and even a little humor
at the end of your post. I pray you will be able to continue your dream and
add to the other comments of being thankful you are okay.
Merry Christmas to all,
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
Deems Davis #406
warning what follows is off topic.
PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
thought I'd post here to save some time.
Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the
events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a
small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was
terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10
community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long
and having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home
was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the associated
medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/studies
published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. And
despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance
with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during
a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If
they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other
than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
community.
Deems #406
'Now where was I.......?'
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Deems,
I agree with Tim.
Use the next year to really perfect your bird and work on those safety
ideas.......we don't need to lose you from the community!
Grumpy
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In a message dated 12/20/2007 10:22:17 A.M. Central Standard Time,
Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Deems,
I really hope you convince yourself to stay on with the RV-10
project. You're a tremendous asset to the community, and
a great guy to boot.
Please, don't take offense. You know me, I try to look
for humor in everything...the funniest times in my life
have been some of the ones where I was bleeding from something. ;)
Now: I think you should look at this as an "opportunity". You
know, you, of everyone, are the king of the "mod" or "improvement".
So, if ANYONE can stretch an RV-10 build out by another year,
I'm sure you can. Heck, what you think was only a couple weeks
left could have easily been 6 months anyway, while you perfected
things. So my take on it is, you're just going to be forced to
have the nicest RV-10 out there!
Jack,
I haven't figured out how I did it yet, but I was able to
remove 95% of my memories of school...pre-college. Not much
of that time period in school was too fun, so I'm not
disappointed with that. It leaves me more time to focus on
the present, which I have to say is MUCH more interesting.
I did retain the memory of all the fun things in those
years though.
I also successfully removed almost all memories of my first
marriage, which is a real bonus!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Phillips, Jack wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack"
<Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com>
>
> Merry Christmas, Deems. Sorry to hear about your "episode". Too bad
> this had to happen when you are so close to flying your RV-10.
> Hopefully all will work out for the best.
>
> If you learn how to start such an episode, let me know. There are a few
> days of my memory I wouldn't mind deleting from my files (the day I
> married my second wife, for example...).
>
> Jack Phillips, PE
> Sr. Manager, Disposable Products Research & Development
> Cardinal Health Clinical Technologies & Services
> Creedmoor, NC
> (919) 528-5212
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:18 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
>
>
> Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
> family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
> help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
> CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
>
> Deems Davis #406
>
>
> warning what follows is off topic.
>
> PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
> occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
> thought I'd post here to save some time.
>
> Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
> medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
> permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
> emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the
> events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
>
> I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a
> small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was
> terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
>
> new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
> life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10
> community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
>
> during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
> aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
> experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long
> and having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
>
> weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
>
> The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
> community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
> residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
> recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
> population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home
> was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the associated
> medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/studies
> published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. And
> despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
> more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
>
> After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
>
> begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
> related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
>
> my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
>
> may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance
> with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
> precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
> neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during
> a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
> aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
> within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
> time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
> note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
> months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
> about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
>
> So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If
> they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
>
> I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
> want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
> John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
> mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other
> than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
>
>
> If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
> organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
> of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
> community.
>
>
> Deems #406
>
> 'Now where was I.......?'
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| Subject: | Strobe and Antenna Wire in Same Conduit |
No interference with my setup, in fact (oddly enough) the slight background
hum decreases when I turn the strobes on!
Marcus
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Weyant
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:10 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Strobe and Antenna Wire in Same Conduit
Has anyone run their Strobe wire and Antenna wire in the same wing conduit?
Any interference or other problems? My Electronics guru says there should
be none since all wires are shielded. Anyone?
Chuck
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Deems, you can rest assured there will be nothing "Whimsical" from my
posts this week. You have been my inspiration and balance with your
passion, hard work, tenaciously creative efforts and measurable
progress. Sometimes temporary setbacks spark even greater
accomplishments down the road of life. I hold hope for many more safe
and healthy pilots flying RV-10s in the coming months and years just
like You and Judy. I immediately shared with my wife (and build partner
your news). As I reflected, I knew in my heart that this next year
should be even better for you and Judy in "Living the Dream".
We are blessed to live in such a wonderful country "One Nation Under
God" with this liberty and freedom, with the community encouragement to
be entrepreneurial and pursue those dreams, and the tolerance of others
and their dreams, too. It was only hours later, after your post, that
my wife and I received word by telephone that a tragic death which took
place here in Oregon a few days ago had reached out and directly touched
our "First Family" of RV-10 builders with a loss of a loved one. This
week, this last month and certainly this last year has caused a great
deal of reflection on what is truly important to us.
To you and your family's continued good health, to the enjoyment of
RV-10s, We wish you a speedy and full recovery. Just consider this a
practice approach stall in the pattern of life. You are in our prayers
and those damned Bill O'Reilly "Secular Progressives" on this list can
just take a nap for a year. Looking forward to seeing you.
John & Tana Cox #600
Merry Christmas
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
Deems Davis #406
warning what follows is off topic.
I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other
than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
community.
Deems #406
'Now where was I.......?'
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Merry Christmas and good luck Deems!
Dave Leikam
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:17 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
>
> Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
> family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
> help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
> CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
>
> Deems Davis #406
>
>
> warning what follows is off topic.
>
> PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
> occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
> thought I'd post here to save some time.
>
> Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
> medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
> permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
> emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the
> events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
> I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a
> small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was
> terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
> new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
> life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10
> community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
> during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
> aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
> experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long
> and having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
> weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
>
> The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
> community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
> residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
> recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
> population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home
> was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the associated
> medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/studies
> published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. And
> despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
> more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
>
> After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
> begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
> related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
> my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
> may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance
> with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
> precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
> neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during
> a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
> aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
> within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
> time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
> note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
> months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
> about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
> So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If
> they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
>
> I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
> want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
> John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
> mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other
> than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
>
>
> If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
> organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
> of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
> community.
>
>
> Deems #406
>
> 'Now where was I.......?'
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: collision avoidance |
I have been flying with an XRX for about 1 1/2 years now. At first it was with
the stand alone unit and for the past 6 months with the Garmin interface. I placed
my unit on the glare shield and discovered that it was difficult for me to
see the screen due to ambient light. I found that a white sheet of paper in
front of the screen reflected the light and made the screen readable. So I cut
a sheet of plastic to fit under the unit and extend 1-2" in front of the screen.
I covered the extension with white label paper and was able to see the screen
without a problem. On the stand alone unit you have to look at the screen
periodically to see if traffic is displayed. It only warns you when traffic gets
within the two warning parameters..
Now with the Garmin interface it is much better. The screen just says Garmin and
traffic is displayed on my GPS 396. Traffic is displayed on the map page according
to your setup. When traffic gets within the warning parameters you get
a pop up window with the warning. Overall, this has been a good investment. I
have seen traffic that I would have missed without it. Still, I get warnings
where I do not see the traffic. It has not been false echos as this has occurred
with ATC advisories and map display and still I never see the traffic. So,
this unit is another good resource for collision avoidance. Traffic in the pattern
is easier to pick up.
JF
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas forgetting our first wives |
Hard to forget my wife... I think of her everyday, I loved her than and I
love her now. If it wasn't for her I wouldn't be building the RV-10 today.
Ya she's a keeper ;-)
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
>
> Whew, I'd like to forget the first wife! Hopefully I will have learned
> before I get to the second wife:-)
>
> William
> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
> "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter
> and those who matter don't mind."
> -- Dr. Suess
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>> <Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com>
>> If you learn how to start such an episode, let me know. There are a few
>> days of my memory I wouldn't mind deleting from my files (the day I
>> married my second wife, for example...).
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Deems,
Wish you and your family the best during the Chrismas Holiday. I hope
you continue on and get that RV10 flying. I may be flying to Mesa early
next week..........if you feel up to it would you wanna go for a ride a
round AZ in 805HL?
God Bless,
DEAN
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Total Novice here..... I'm building an RV-10 with dual Lightspeed ignition. Electronics
are as follows; SL40 Radio, GTX327 Transponder, 496 GPS, PS3000 audio
panel, and the Advanced Flight Systems 3500 efis.
My question are; Has anyone set up the rpm wiring between the Lightspeed and
the efis?
Prior to finalizing my connections, I wanted to double check my wiring pin numbers
for the wires which interconnect between equipment.... ie. 496 to efis,
or sl40 to audio panel, etc
Any help will be much appreciated
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| Subject: | Re: collision avoidance |
I believe Zaon is working on an ADS-B module for their next product which is a
built in system. They were showing it in OSH. Don't recall the price though.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: collision avoidance
Lack of viable competition creates a stranglehold for most competitors
and hence the customer. More suppliers, constant demand - better
pricing. The GDL-90 is made in Salem, Oregon.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Curtis
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: collision avoidance
Since there is nothing proprietary about ADS-B, how does "Oregon based
Garmin" have a "stranglehold?"
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't
matter and those who matter don't mind."
-- Dr. Suess
-------- Original Message --------
<johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>
> The ADS-B transmitters were turned on in Salem, Oregon last Monday and
> are working in several eastern seaboard states from Florida through
> Washington, DC.
>
> Someone needs to break the stranglehold on Oregon based Garmin so that
> "Supply and Demand" makes this a more common of a collision avoidance
> system than $7K. The EFIS solution is being solved one RV-10 at a
time.
> Till then, some are using ZAON patched to their GPS screen.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjay
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:29 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: collision avoidance
>
>
> This is a scenario where you would be hard pressed to beat ADS-B for
> traffic awareness. You are outside of radar control or controllers
are
> too busy to notice; ADS-B would give you a clear picture of traffic
> (altitude, bearing, and direction) without ATC help.
>
> Unfortunately, most people don't understand it, and no one is using it
> yet. Not cheap enough yet either, the GDL-90 is about $7K and you
need
> an EFIS/MFD that displays it.
>
> Also, ground station coverage is only on the east coast right now.
>
> cjay
>
>
> apilot2(at)gmail.com wrote:
> > And on one of the occasions he said he was above the class D...hence
> in class E.
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2007 6:54 AM, wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/16/2007 1:30:04 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net writes:
> > > Playing Devils Advocate here ...... you were outside of their
> controlled
> > > airspace.
> > >
> > >
> > > Class D is advisory for traffic not control as in Class Alpha or
> Bravo....
> > >
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Deems, good luck to you. When we were young, a year took forever, now we are
not so young it seems to pass very quickly so a year will be gone in no time
at all. I'm looking forward to your "extra" creativity you'll no doubt
invest in your 10.
Merry Christmas to you and to all the list.
John 40315
(The RV-10 list is like good music in the background whilst you work)
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 1:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
Deems Davis #406
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
As a fellow traveler who just turned 60, all us geezers fear what has happened
to you or worse.
Though I do not know you personally, I relish seeing your posts. Please keep up
the faith and your progress.
I will say a special prayer for a healthy 2008 for you and your family. We all
need goals in life, I think that a realistic one for you is to get your a/c in
the air and fly a lot of dual in 2008 and plan to go solo on a specific date
in early 2009 (maybe 2/1/09).
--------
OSH '08 or Bust
Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/fiberglass stuff
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Wait, you live in WI and went to college here and you haven't figured it out !?!
I spent one too many weekends at UW-Stout and I have a pretty good idea how
you forgot everything before college. A wedding reception in this state has
a similar affect so I think I know the answer to the second one also. :D
Michael
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
Deems,
I really hope you convince yourself to stay on with the RV-10
project. You're a tremendous asset to the community, and
a great guy to boot.
Please, don't take offense. You know me, I try to look
for humor in everything...the funniest times in my life
have been some of the ones where I was bleeding from something. ;)
Now: I think you should look at this as an "opportunity". You
know, you, of everyone, are the king of the "mod" or "improvement".
So, if ANYONE can stretch an RV-10 build out by another year,
I'm sure you can. Heck, what you think was only a couple weeks
left could have easily been 6 months anyway, while you perfected
things. So my take on it is, you're just going to be forced to
have the nicest RV-10 out there!
Jack,
I haven't figured out how I did it yet, but I was able to
remove 95% of my memories of school...pre-college. Not much
of that time period in school was too fun, so I'm not
disappointed with that. It leaves me more time to focus on
the present, which I have to say is MUCH more interesting.
I did retain the memory of all the fun things in those
years though.
I also successfully removed almost all memories of my first
marriage, which is a real bonus!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Phillips, Jack wrote:
>
> Merry Christmas, Deems. Sorry to hear about your "episode". Too bad
> this had to happen when you are so close to flying your RV-10.
> Hopefully all will work out for the best.
>
> If you learn how to start such an episode, let me know. There are a few
> days of my memory I wouldn't mind deleting from my files (the day I
> married my second wife, for example...).
>
> Jack Phillips, PE
> Sr. Manager, Disposable Products Research & Development
> Cardinal Health Clinical Technologies & Services
> Creedmoor, NC
> (919) 528-5212
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:18 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
>
>
> Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
> family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
> help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
> CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
>
> Deems Davis #406
>
>
> warning what follows is off topic.
>
> PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
> occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
> thought I'd post here to save some time.
>
> Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
> medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
> permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
> emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the
> events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
>
> I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a
> small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was
> terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
>
> new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
> life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10
> community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
>
> during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
> aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
> experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long
> and having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
>
> weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
>
> The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
> community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
> residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
> recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
> population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home
> was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the associated
> medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/studies
> published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. And
> despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
> more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
>
> After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
>
> begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
> related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
>
> my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
>
> may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance
> with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
> precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
> neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during
> a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
> aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
> within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
> time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
> note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
> months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
> about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
>
> So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If
> they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
>
> I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
> want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
> John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
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Deems,
i gotta tell you, i personally think you shoulda told em you got a
bad mushroom out of the garden...;)
I wish you the best of luck, and hope i can continue to enjoy watching your
progress.
I have a friend who's back in the air in little over a year and a half after
having a heart attack and splints installed. if nothing else, it shows the
rewards of a good physician and lots of patients.
ALSO AS A SIDE NOTE, is it ME or does it seem that most contributing listers
have admitted to multiple marriages? I fear I may be unqualified to be an
rv10 builder being still on my first. Spending all the late nights in the
hangar i thought was good for a relationship because you couldn't disagree.
(hehe, i am on the right path aren't I??)
Merry Christmas
Steven dinieri
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Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation family,
and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the help and
support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY
NEW YEAR
Deems Davis #406
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Deems,
I'm so so sorry to hear about this turn of events. I truly hope there is a
silver lining in there for you somewhere.
You are definitely one of the core personalities on this list and it just
wouldn't be the same without you.
I hope you can find a way to continue on with your project. If for no other
reason than we really need at least one aircraft in the fleet sporting your
"5 foot tall pylon, made of spaceage transpardium mounted in the exact
center/top point of the cabin cover, equipped with a gyro stabilized gimble
that ensures stability of the antenna in all unusual attitudes."
But whatever you end up deciding to do next year, for this one please have a
wonderful Christmas!
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715 / N690CT
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Merry Christmas
Over the past 2 1/2 years this list has grown to become my aviation
family, and so it's only fitting that I pause and THANK YOU all for the
help and support I've received from you and to wish you a MERRY
CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR
Deems Davis #406
warning what follows is off topic.
PS. Some have noticed the the daily updates to my website haven't been
occurring. I'm receiving some off-line e-mail queries about why, so I
thought I'd post here to save some time.
Last Wed. I experienced what the FAA calls 'a disqualifying event'. The
medical term is Transient Global Amnesia (TGA). In lay terms I
permanently 'lost' from 9am to 3pm of that day. Judy took me to the
emergency room where they did their diagnostics. Her description of the
events that transpired during the episode are comical in retrospect, but
I assure you there was nothing funny about it at the time. I have a
small recognition of the onset of the episode, and what I recall was
terrifying. Once the episode passed, and memory, and the ability to form
new memory returned, my biggest concern once I learned this was not a
life-threatening event was my future wrt to aviation, the RV-10
community and my project. I spent a very sleepless night in the hospital
during which I resigned myself to selling the project and retiring from
aviation as I suspected that the FAA would not look favorably on the
experience. Needless to say, having had this dream/ambition for so long
and having postponed it during the family/career years, and to be within
weeks of realizing it, I've been a little bummed these past few days.
The good news is that TGA, while largely enigmatic to the medical
community, as to cause, appears to be completely benign, with no
residual health effects or implications, and the likelihood of
recurrence for me is only marginally greater than the general
population. When I was released Thurs. the 1st thing I did once at home
was to begin my own research courtesy of Google, and the associated
medical & FAA databases. I've read numerous medical papers/studies
published on the syndrome, learned about as much as a layman can. And
despite the initial anxiety that this produced, I'm becoming more and
more convinced of the favorable prognosis.
After taking a couple of days to 'chill out' and smell the roses, I have
begun to wrestle with the personal decision regarding my aviation
related future. I won't bother you with the decision process but, during
my research of FAA Flight Surgeon advisory letters, I've learned that it
may be possible with a special issuance medical to continue my romance
with aviation, the downside is that the FAA wants to wait 1 year as a
precaution to ensure that the episode is not masking any other
neurological anomalies. I've confirmed all of this the other day during
a consultation with my AME, Dr. Farrod (who is exclusively dedicated to
aviation medicine). I'll begin collecting the data from the hospital
within a week or two so as to have it ready, when / if special issuance
time comes around. So for now, I'm grounded. As of the writing of this
note, I'm inclined to continue and somehow find a way to stretch 1-2
months of remaining work into 12 and not go crazy each time I read/hear
about one of the expected 100 completion's I expect we'll see next year.
So for the time being, the updates may be slower to non-existent. If
they resume, Their frequency will likely be reduced.
I debated on whether to put this note out to the 'list' but I didn't
want to 'disappear' and become the next James McClow and the subject of
John Cox whimsical posts! Please rest assured, that I am physically and
mentally OK, there are no restrictions on any of my activities (other
than piloting) and there is no treatment required or necessary.
If I decide to continue perhaps I'd use some of next year to help
organize and work on an RV-10 Piloting and Safety program. The content
of such a program would obviously require considerable input from the
community.
Deems #406
'Now where was I.......?'
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Deems - others have said it better than we can, but nonetheless, hang in there!
We enjoyed meeting you at Oshkosh this summer, and continue to enjoy your posts.
Keep 'em coming while you polish your -10.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to All!
--------
Bill (and Jon) Reining
40514
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Maerry Christmas and Happy new Year to all of you.
I am from Italy building one of the first or the first RV10 in Italy
Claudio Masci
(I-BIRO Reserved)
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] Per conto di Bill Reining
Inviato: venerd 21 dicembre 2007 8.12
A: rv10-list@matronics.com
Oggetto: RV10-List: Re: Merry Christmas
Deems - others have said it better than we can, but nonetheless, hang in
there! We enjoyed meeting you at Oshkosh this summer, and continue to enjoy
your posts. Keep 'em coming while you polish your -10.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to All!
--------
Bill (and Jon) Reining
40514
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