RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 12/26/07


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: oil canning revisited (Marcus Cooper)
     2. 09:20 AM - Pitot tube (Chris Hukill)
     3. 10:10 AM - RV10 N324RG First Flight (RONALD GROVER)
     4. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: oil canning revisited (John Gonzalez)
     5. 11:19 AM - Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight (Marcus Cooper)
     6. 11:49 AM - Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight (Bob Leffler)
     7. 12:55 PM - Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight (gary)
     8. 02:24 PM - Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     9. 03:16 PM - position rear Headset jacks (Chris and Susie McGough)
    10. 03:27 PM - Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight (orchidman)
    11. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    12. 03:36 PM - Re: position rear Headset jacks (John Gonzalez)
    13. 03:44 PM - Re: position rear Headset jacks (Rene Felker)
    14. 04:21 PM - Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight (GenGrumpy@AOL.COM)
    15. 04:45 PM - Re: position rear Headset jacks (Chris and Susie McGough)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:10:48 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: oil canning revisited
    Here's a slight divergence from the thread but a chance to reflect on how far the kits have come. When I was building my RV-6 (no prepunch fuselage, other parts only the outer skin was prepunched) the big discussion on preventing oil canning involved heating the skin prior to fitting the skin and drilling to the ribs (which you marked to help get the holes on center). The theory was the heated, and therefore expanded skin would shrink slightly and create a tighter fit. Never tried it myself due to the huge amount of extra effort for a one man shop. No help to your current state John, but sometimes I have to remind myself how much better the QB RV-10 was compared to previous ventures. When I was working on the RV-7 I felt like I was cheating since the kit was so much better, on the -10 I felt like I should be arrested for getting away with so much less work! Unfortunately it's still a lot of work but the rewards are magnificent! I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and that Santa was good to you, Marcus _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 11:40 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: oil canning revisited Thanks, I remember your post from a few weeks ago, but I didn't remember which supplier had the better clecoes. Now I will remember. BTW mine are a mix aswell. Here is what has developed since Monday. I put in my AOA tubing on the other wing and was able to finish tonight the riveting of Step 11, all the ribs but not the Main spar. Here is what I have learned by this second wing. Wish my rivetting on the first wing was as good as on this one. No dents to this point. NONE! Also a big issue I have learned...It had been a while since I rivetted, my excuss for the first wing. On the first wing I believe I was not equallying out the rivet gun pressure enough with the bucking bar pressure, so ultimately, some of my rivet lines had a slight depression to them. I BELIEVE that this will cause a tighter arc pattern to the skin than is supposed to be and the skin in the middle of the bays wants to pillow out. Today I really got my rivetting down and turned the volume down, the pressure the same, and after the first few gentle hit of the set, i pulled or pushed out the bucking bar out so the skin would not collapse in. My rivetting looks really good...almost as good as the QB results or back rivetting. So to this point without the rivets in on the main spar the skin is much tighter, but a flex is still in the same bay, but absolutely better than the first wing. Will see what happens when the main spar is rivetted, and when the entire skin is finished. Again, I did remove the material from the edge and the without any skin manipulation(clecoes are in on the main spar) the rivets don't go into their holes in the main spar because the skin is more forward than the holes in the spar. A slight wiggle with the ice pick allows the rivets to go in fine. My rivet pattern was going outboard and inboard with each rivet that I went forward. Meaning all horizontal rows were complete before moving forward toward the LE skin. This is the way the Jchannel was rivetted. I did not complete one vertical row at a time. I will finish the spar rivetting by starting in the middle of the bay, basically the same location I started on the rear spar and move outward and inward at the same time. It is amazing that some builders had no issues at all with this. To me it seems like walking across a mine field. Haven't decided what I will do with the first wing, either nothing, or do an access panel with slightly offset holes in the re inforcement plate so the skin dimple get pulled inward toward a center point and if this does not work I will cut large holes in each bay to better access each shop head for better removal of all rivets and redo the skin(Without dents) the second time. Oh, guess I'll need to sort some clecoes of buy some more from Avery. Merry Christmas, back to teeth work tomorrow. John G > Subject: RV10-List: Re: oil canning revisited > From: johngoodman@earthlink.net > Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 06:43:45 -0800 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > > Sorry for the segue, but I couldn't help noticing you mentioned the clecos falling out. I ran into that problem on by tailcone and began to notice a pattern. The ones I got from Avery hold fast in final drilled holes, but the ones I bought at Aircraft Spruce tend to pop out every time I hit the rivet gun. It took a while to find all the culprits but I've isolated them into "loose" and "tight." The loose ones are good for pre-drilled holes while the tight ones I save for final riveting. > > I appreciate the dialogue on the oil canning since I'll be doing those skins on my QB next week. Currently all wired up and doing the flap & aileron fairings. > > John > > -------- > #40572 QB Wings, QB Fuse arrived > N711JG reserved > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154170#154170 > > > > >==== > > >


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    Time: 09:20:12 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net>
    Subject: Pitot tube
    John The Dynon heated Pitot/AOA probe that I have must be different than yours, as the new heated ones have about 1/8 inch thickness of nickel steel where the screws go into, and drilling / tapping them was not an issue. The plumbing and wires are in the center where they aren't likely to be hit with the drill going in, although I would certainly watch my depth while drilling, as it states in the instructions. Chris Hukill From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net> Chris, I'm going the same route, except I was foolish enough to put it where Van's probe went. The aileron push tube is a problem there but manageable. Fortunately, I was warned, so I'll pass it on. The Dynon tube's metal - where you screw it to the Gretz mount - is very soft and thin. Drilling is not too bad but tapping the holes for screws must be done very carefully. John [quote=" I installed the new Dynon heated pitot / AOA probe, which is fabricated from nickel and it looks like a real quality unit. I plan on at least one Dynon box, which will give me visual and aural AOA / stall warning. The probe also is temperature controlled for low current draw, and has fault annunciation on a Dynon box, or a stand alone LED if not using a Dynon box. My experience with the Dynon system I have in the RV8 couldn't be better. The system is rock solid, and loaded with features. Chris Hukill shaving bottom wing skins to fit /quote] -------- #40572 QB Wings, QB Fuse arrived N711JG reserved


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    Time: 10:10:00 AM PST US
    From: "RONALD GROVER" <rv8grover@verizon.net>
    Subject: RV10 N324RG First Flight
    Piloted by myself on December 16, 2007 RV-10 N324RG took flight from Propwash Airport located in Justin, Texas. After almost 4 years, and roughly 2600 building hours and weighing in at 1658 lbs., kit # 40063 took to the air. The powerplant is the TMX IO-540 and propeller is a Hartzell blended airfoil. The equipment list includes a Grand Rapids EFIS, EIS 6000 engine monitor, PMA8000, GNS430, GTX330, SL-30, 496, and Sorcerer autopilot. The RV10 is a sweeeeet ride. You can view the video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwVrg1Mr5k I am a repeat offender (RV8 # 80133) so thanks again to my wife for all the help and support and to Vans for another great design. Thanks also go to Alex DeDoninicis for the checkout, and to my son, Troy Grover (Grov-Air, Inc.) for flying down from Indiana to help prepare for the first flight and for flying the chase plane. Ron Grover


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    Time: 10:17:43 AM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: oil canning revisited
    No argument from me, I do not believe I would build a metal airplane withou t prepunched parts...that's nuts, IMO. No complaint about this kit or the Q B, my issue is more of a mental exercise in how this is happening and how t o best correct for it. I believe there will just be a certain amount of acc eptance required on my part and an understanding that although the kit and their parts are designed and for the most part fabricated by computer, ther e is enough chance for things to be assembled ever so slightly differently so that not everyones results will be the same even if done absolutely perf ectly. That is what I am getting on the second wing, basically, I can't do it any better than it is being done with what I was given. What I was given was be autiful, it is a give and take. JOhn Do Not Archive From: coop85@cableone.netTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: RV10-List: Re: oil canning revisitedDate: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:09:52 -0600 Here=92s a slight divergence from the thread but a chance to reflect on how far the kits have come. When I was building my RV-6 (no prepunch fuselage , other parts only the outer skin was prepunched) the big discussion on pre venting oil canning involved heating the skin prior to fitting the skin and drilling to the ribs (which you marked to help get the holes on center). The theory was the heated, and therefore expanded skin would shrink slightl y and create a tighter fit. Never tried it myself due to the huge amount o f extra effort for a one man shop. No help to your current state John, but sometimes I have to remind myself h ow much better the QB RV-10 was compared to previous ventures. When I was working on the RV-7 I felt like I was cheating since the kit was so much be tter, on the -10 I felt like I should be arrested for getting away with so much less work! Unfortunately it=92s still a lot of work but the rewards a re magnificent! I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and that Santa was good to you, Marcus From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of John GonzalezSent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 11 :40 PMTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: RV10-List: Re: oil canning re visited Thanks, I remember your post from a few weeks ago, but I didn't remember wh ich supplier had the better clecoes. Now I will remember. BTW mine are a mi x aswell. Here is what has developed since Monday. I put in my AOA tubing o n the other wing and was able to finish tonight the riveting of Step 11, al l the ribs but not the Main spar. Here is what I have learned by this secon d wing. Wish my rivetting on the first wing was as good as on this one. No dents to this point. NONE! Also a big issue I have learned...It had been a while since I rivetted, my excuss for the first wing. On the first wing I b elieve I was not equallying out the rivet gun pressure enough with the buck ing bar pressure, so ultimately, some of my rivet lines had a slight depres sion to them. I BELIEVE that this will cause a tighter arc pattern to the s kin than is supposed to be and the skin in the middle of the bays wants to pillow out. Today I really got my rivetting down and turned the volume dow n, the pressure the same, and after the first few gentle hit of the set, i pulled or pushed out the bucking bar out so the skin would not collapse in. My rivetting looks really good...almost as good as the QB results or back rivetting. So to this point without the rivets in on the main spar the ski n is much tighter, but a flex is still in the same bay, but absolutely bett er than the first wing. Will see what happens when the main spar is rivette d, and when the entire skin is finished. Again, I did remove the material f rom the edge and the without any skin manipulation(clecoes are in on the ma in spar) the rivets don't go into their holes in the main spar because the skin is more forward than the holes in the spar. A slight wiggle with the i ce pick allows the rivets to go in fine. My rivet pattern was going outboar d and inboard with each rivet that I went forward. Meaning all horizontal r ows were complete before moving forward toward the LE skin. This is the way the Jchannel was rivetted. I did not complete one vertical row at a time. I will finish the spar rivetting by starting in the middle of the bay, ba sically the same location I started on the rear spar and move outward and i nward at the same time. It is amazing that some builders had no issues at a ll with this. To me it seems like walking across a mine field. Haven't deci ded what I will do with the first wing, either nothing, or do an access pan el with slightly offset holes in the re inforcement plate so the skin dimpl e get pulled inward toward a center point and if this does not work I will cut large holes in each bay to better access each shop head for better remo val of all rivets and redo the skin(Without dents) the second time. Oh, gue ss I'll need to sort some clecoes of buy some more from Avery. Merry Christ mas, back to teeth work tomorrow. John G> Subject: RV10-List: Re: oil canni ng revisited> From: johngoodman@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 06:43 "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>> > Sorry for the segue, but I cou ldn't help noticing you mentioned the clecos falling out. I ran into that p roblem on by tailcone and began to notice a pattern. The ones I got from Av ery hold fast in final drilled holes, but the ones I bought at Aircraft Spr uce tend to pop out every time I hit the rivet gun. It took a while to find all the culprits but I've isolated them into "loose" and "tight." The loos e ones are good for pre-drilled holes while the tight ones I save for final riveting.> > I appreciate the dialogue on the oil canning since I'll be do ing those skins on my QB next week. Currently all wired up and doing the fl ap & aileron fairings.> > John> > --------> #40572 QB Wings, QB Fuse arrive d> N711JG reserved> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.m atronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154170#154170> > > > >=====> > > http://www.matronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV 10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 11:19:12 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: RV10 N324RG First Flight
    Ron, Congratulations! Great video as well, although you may need to update your username ;) Pretty slick having the family play so much a part of it. Have fun, Marcus 40286 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RONALD GROVER Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV10 N324RG First Flight Piloted by myself on December 16, 2007 RV-10 N324RG took flight from Propwash Airport located in Justin, Texas. After almost 4 years, and roughly 2600 building hours and weighing in at 1658 lbs., kit # 40063 took to the air. The powerplant is the TMX IO-540 and propeller is a Hartzell blended airfoil. The equipment list includes a Grand Rapids EFIS, EIS 6000 engine monitor, PMA8000, GNS430, GTX330, SL-30, 496, and Sorcerer autopilot. The RV10 is a sweeeeet ride. You can view the video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwVrg1Mr5k I am a repeat offender (RV8 # 80133) so thanks again to my wife for all the help and support and to Vans for another great design. Thanks also go to Alex DeDoninicis for the checkout, and to my son, Troy Grover (Grov-Air, Inc.) for flying down from Indiana to help prepare for the first flight and for flying the chase plane. Ron Grover


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    Time: 11:49:30 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: RV10 N324RG First Flight
    Congratulations Ron!!!! I was in Dallas a few months ago and had the opportunity to have dinner with Wayne Edgerton, Ron, and his wife. Afterwards, Ron invited us over to his house for a tour of his airplane factory. Ron (and Wayne for that matter) have hangars that most of us would drool over. However, Ron still built his RV-10 in the garage with the hangar ten feet away. Something about wanting a/c during the Texas summers. I was very impressed with Ron's skills as a builder. It was clearly one of the best built RV-10s that I've seen to date. Ron I would like to see some pictures of your interior and panel if possible. So when is Troy going to finish his RV-10? The pictures on his website are quite dated. Bob #40684 - Wings ordered From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RONALD GROVER Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV10 N324RG First Flight Piloted by myself on December 16, 2007 RV-10 N324RG took flight from Propwash Airport located in Justin, Texas. After almost 4 years, and roughly 2600 building hours and weighing in at 1658 lbs., kit # 40063 took to the air. The powerplant is the TMX IO-540 and propeller is a Hartzell blended airfoil. The equipment list includes a Grand Rapids EFIS, EIS 6000 engine monitor, PMA8000, GNS430, GTX330, SL-30, 496, and Sorcerer autopilot. The RV10 is a sweeeeet ride. You can view the video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwVrg1Mr5k I am a repeat offender (RV8 # 80133) so thanks again to my wife for all the help and support and to Vans for another great design. Thanks also go to Alex DeDoninicis for the checkout, and to my son, Troy Grover (Grov-Air, Inc.) for flying down from Indiana to help prepare for the first flight and for flying the chase plane. Ron Grover


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    Time: 12:55:42 PM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: RV10 N324RG First Flight
    I may be suffering from "Oldtimers disease" but can anyone tell me where in the instruction manual Part F-10108 is talked about? Gary 40274 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:25 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV10 N324RG First Flight Congratulations Ron!!!! I was in Dallas a few months ago and had the opportunity to have dinner with Wayne Edgerton, Ron, and his wife. Afterwards, Ron invited us over to his house for a tour of his airplane factory. Ron (and Wayne for that matter) have hangars that most of us would drool over. However, Ron still built his RV-10 in the garage with the hangar ten feet away. Something about wanting a/c during the Texas summers. I was very impressed with Ron's skills as a builder. It was clearly one of the best built RV-10s that I've seen to date. Ron I would like to see some pictures of your interior and panel if possible. So when is Troy going to finish his RV-10? The pictures on his website are quite dated. Bob #40684 - Wings ordered From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RONALD GROVER Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV10 N324RG First Flight Piloted by myself on December 16, 2007 RV-10 N324RG took flight from Propwash Airport located in Justin, Texas. After almost 4 years, and roughly 2600 building hours and weighing in at 1658 lbs., kit # 40063 took to the air. The powerplant is the TMX IO-540 and propeller is a Hartzell blended airfoil. The equipment list includes a Grand Rapids EFIS, EIS 6000 engine monitor, PMA8000, GNS430, GTX330, SL-30, 496, and Sorcerer autopilot. The RV10 is a sweeeeet ride. You can view the video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwVrg1Mr5k I am a repeat offender (RV8 # 80133) so thanks again to my wife for all the help and support and to Vans for another great design. Thanks also go to Alex DeDoninicis for the checkout, and to my son, Troy Grover (Grov-Air, Inc.) for flying down from Indiana to help prepare for the first flight and for flying the chase plane. Ron Grover


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    Time: 02:24:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    Page 48-1 steps 1-4 and page FF4-2 step 8. I thought you were up in MN and the plane was in GA??? Bob -------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> Sent: Wed Dec 26 12:41:44 2007 Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV10 N324RG First Flight I may be suffering from Oldtimers disease but can anyone tell me where in the instruction manual Part F-10108 is talked about? Gary 40274 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:25 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV10 N324RG First Flight Congratulations Ron!!!! I was in Dallas a few months ago and had the opportunity to have dinner with Wayne Edgerton, Ron, and his wife. Afterwards, Ron invited us over to his house for a tour of his airplane factory. Ron (and Wayne for that matter) have hangars that most of us would drool over. However, Ron still built his RV-10 in the garage with the hangar ten feet away. Something about wanting a/c during the Texas summers. I was very impressed with Rons skills as a builder. It was clearly one of the best built RV-10s that Ive seen to date. Ron I would like to see some pictures of your interior and panel if possible. So when is Troy going to finish his RV-10? The pictures on his website are quite dated. Bob #40684 Wings ordered From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RONALD GROVER Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV10 N324RG First Flight Piloted by myself on December 16, 2007 RV-10 N324RG took flight from Propwash Airport located in Justin, Texas. After almost 4 years, and roughly 2600 building hours and weighing in at 1658 lbs., kit # 40063 took to the air. The powerplant is the TMX IO-540 and propeller is a Hartzell blended airfoil. The equipment list includes a Grand Rapids EFIS, EIS 6000 engine monitor, PMA8000, GNS430, GTX330, SL-30, 496, and Sorcerer autopilot. The RV10 is a sweeeeet ride. You can view the video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwVrg1Mr5k I am a repeat offender (RV8 # 80133) so thanks again to my wife for all the help and support and to Vans for another great design. Thanks also go to Alex DeDoninicis for the checkout, and to my son, Troy Grover (Grov-Air, Inc.) for flying down from Indiana to help prepare for the first flight and for flying the chase plane. Ron Grover http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:16:55 PM PST US
    From: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: position rear Headset jacks
    Guys just wondering where people are putting there rear headset jacks Chris


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    Time: 03:27:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    bcondrey wrote: > Page 48-1 steps 1-4 and page FF4-2 step 8. > > I thought you were up in MN and the plane was in GA??? > > Bob Bob. Think you meant Page 47-11 steps 1-4 [Shocked] -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Fuselage SB (N410GB reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154418#154418


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    Time: 03:35:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    You're right - the page was dog-eared where the number is... Bob -------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> Sent: Wed Dec 26 15:24:54 2007 Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight bcondrey wrote: > Page 48-1 steps 1-4 and page FF4-2 step 8. > > I thought you were up in MN and the plane was in GA??? > > Bob Bob. Think you meant Page 47-11 steps 1-4 [Shocked] -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Fuselage SB (N410GB reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154418#154418


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    Time: 03:36:28 PM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: position rear Headset jacks
    On the arm rest just aft of the rear air vent that are on the fuse side. Th ose arm rests are a little too small to begin with and they are more like a elbow rest. John G.> From: VHMUM@bigpond.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: RV1 0-List: position rear Headset jacks> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:14:45 +1100> d.com>> > Guys just wondering where people are putting there rear headset j ========================> _ =====> > >


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    Time: 03:44:37 PM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: position rear Headset jacks
    I am putting them in a center console.....I know....not much help. Rene' Felker N423CF 40322 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie McGough Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: RV10-List: position rear Headset jacks <VHMUM@bigpond.com> Guys just wondering where people are putting there rear headset jacks Chris


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    Time: 04:21:48 PM PST US
    From: GenGrumpy@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: RV10 N324RG First Flight
    Ron, Welcome to the air! Isn't she a beautifully flying bird? Congratulations on the first part (even harder part to come is finishing off the inside and outside!) grumpy N184JM 65 hrs and stuck in the paint barn!! do not archive In a message dated 12/26/2007 12:11:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, rv8grover@verizon.net writes: Piloted by myself on December 16, 2007 RV-10 N324RG took flight from Propwash Airport located in Justin, Texas. After almost 4 years, and roughly 2600 building hours and weighing in at 1658 lbs., kit # 40063 took to the air. The powerplant is the TMX IO-540 and propeller is a Hartzell blended airfoil. The equipment list includes a Grand Rapids EFIS, EIS 6000 engine monitor, PMA8000, GNS430, GTX330, SL-30, 496, and Sorcerer autopilot. The RV10 is a sweeeeet ride. You can view the video at: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwVrg1Mr5k_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVwVrg1Mr5k) I am a repeat offender (RV8 # 80133) so thanks again to my wife for all the help and support and to Vans for another great design. Thanks also go to Alex DeDoninicis for the checkout, and to my son, Troy Grover (Grov-Air, Inc.) for flying down from Indiana to help prepare for the first flight and for flying the chase plane. Ron Grover (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List) **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)


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    Time: 04:45:09 PM PST US
    From: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: position rear Headset jacks
    Thanks I have the flightlines interior and didnt want to cut any holes.....this may be the best way though regards Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: John Gonzalez To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: position rear Headset jacks On the arm rest just aft of the rear air vent that are on the fuse side. Those arm rests are a little too small to begin with and they are more like a elbow rest. John G. > From: VHMUM@bigpond.com > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: position rear Headset jacks > Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:14:45 +1100 > <VHMUM@bigpond.com> > > Guys just wondering where people are putting there rear headset jacks> > >




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