---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/27/07: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:22 AM - Re: position rear Headset jacks (Wayne Edgerton) 2. 05:13 AM - Re: position rear Headset jacks (Lew Gallagher) 3. 08:39 AM - Re: position rear Headset jacks (dougpflyrv@aol.com) 4. 09:21 AM - Re: Pitot tube (johngoodman) 5. 11:04 AM - Re: position rear Headset jacks (Phil White) 6. 02:27 PM - Re: Re: Pitot tube (Patrick Pulis) 7. 02:31 PM - Re: position rear Headset jacks (Patrick Pulis) 8. 04:03 PM - Build Time (orchidman) 9. 06:34 PM - Re: Pitot tube (johngoodman) 10. 08:07 PM - Re: Re: Pitot tube (Patrick Pulis) 11. 08:28 PM - Re: Re: collision avoidance (EFDsteve@aol.com) 12. 10:03 PM - Re: Re: collision avoidance (Les Kearney) 13. 10:40 PM - Re: Build Time (AirMike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:38 AM PST US From: "Wayne Edgerton" Subject: Re: RV10-List: position rear Headset jacks Hi Chris, I've attached several photos showing where I've got my headset jacks installed. As you can see from the photos there is the headset jacks, a music hookup, arm to control rear seat air and O2 controller. Wayne Edgerton N602WT Time: 03:16:55 PM PST US From: "Chris and Susie McGough" Subject: position rear Headset jacks Guys just wondering where people are putting there rear headset jacks Chris ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:44 AM PST US From: "Lew Gallagher" Subject: Re: RV10-List: position rear Headset jacks Wayne, This looks like one awesome interior, can you please post more pictures and details of the rest of it? !! Thanks, - Lew ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Edgerton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:13 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: position rear Headset jacks Hi Chris, I've attached several photos showing where I've got my headset jacks installed. As you can see from the photos there is the headset jacks, a music hookup, arm to control rear seat air and O2 controller. Wayne Edgerton N602WT Time: 03:16:55 PM PST US From: "Chris and Susie McGough" Subject: position rear Headset jacks Guys just wondering where people are putting there rear headset jacks Chris ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: position rear Headset jacks From: dougpflyrv@aol.com WAYNE, YOUR INTERIOR PHOTOS LOOK GREAT. WHO DID IT? WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME MORE PICS. THANKS, DOUG PRESTON N372RV BHM -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Edgerton Sent: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 6:13 am Subject: Re: RV10-List: position rear Headset jacks Hi Chris, ? I've attached several photos showing where I've got my headset jacks installed. As you can see from the photos there is the headset jacks, a music hookup, arm to control rear seat air and O2 controller. ? Wayne Edgerton N602WT ? ? ? ? ? Time: 03:16:55 PM PST US From: "Chris and Susie McGough" Subject: position rear Headset jacks ????? ????? ????? Guys just wondering where people are putting there rear headset jacks ????? ????? Chris [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:07 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube From: "johngoodman" Chris, I guess I didn't make it clear. Mine is just like yours. Drilling was a minor issue but tapping must be done very carefully because the metal is so soft. John > The Dynon heated Pitot/AOA probe that I have must be different than yours, as the new heated ones have about 1/8 inch thickness of nickel steel where the screws go into, and drilling / tapping them was not an issue. The plumbing and wires are in the center where they aren't likely to be hit with the drill going in, although I would certainly watch my depth while drilling, as it states in the instructions. > > Chris Hukill > -------- #40572 QB Wings, QB Fuse arrived N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154523#154523 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:18 AM PST US From: Phil White Subject: RV10-List: Re: position rear Headset jacks Chris: I put mine on the top of the crossbar behind the seat backs, close to center. Dunno whether that will be the best place for cords to be convenient and out-of-the-way, but it seemed like a good spot to me. Phil #40220 (airframe done, Mazda 20B engine being prepared, wiring to come) > Time: 03:16:55 PM PST US > From: "Chris and Susie McGough" > Subject: RV10-List: position rear Headset jacks > > > Guys just wondering where people are putting there rear headset jacks > > Chris ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:58 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube From: "Patrick Pulis" Hi guys, I have the same pitot. Could you please tell me what size drill and tap you used for your pitot in order to enable mounting to the Gretz mount. Many thanks in anticipation. Patrick #40299 VH-XPP Adelaide, South Australia -----Original Message----- From: johngoodman [mailto:johngoodman@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, 28 December 2007 3:51 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube --> Chris, I guess I didn't make it clear. Mine is just like yours. Drilling was a minor issue but tapping must be done very carefully because the metal is so soft. John > The Dynon heated Pitot/AOA probe that I have must be different than yours, as the new heated ones have about 1/8 inch thickness of nickel steel where the screws go into, and drilling / tapping them was not an issue. The plumbing and wires are in the center where they aren't likely to be hit with the drill going in, although I would certainly watch my depth while drilling, as it states in the instructions. > > Chris Hukill > -------- #40572 QB Wings, QB Fuse arrived N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154523#154523 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:51 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: position rear Headset jacks From: "Patrick Pulis" ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:16 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Build Time From: "orchidman" I offer this for anyone thinking about building a 10 and wondering how long it might take. I believe in calendar time I am progressing on the fast track. Everything is slow build. I am making very few modifications from the plans. One year ago today, I picked up my Emp kit from FedEx Freight. Since then it has been petal to the metal non-stop work on it, except for sleep and a 40 to 45 hour a week job. The Emp kit took about 224 hours of actual construction (no planning, review etc time is included in any of my figures, only physical work). The wing kit has taken about 341 hours to date. The only thing left is the fiber glass work on the aft part of the wing tip and connecting the wing wiring to the components in the wing tip. All wiring in the wing is complete. The fuselage is complete through section 31 plus 36 and most of 37. Work time on the fuselage to this point is about 204 hours. That comes to about 770 work hours plus probably that much time or more X2, X3 ... in study. These building times fall in line with many other builders here which you can find through many of the links on sites such as Tims. I hope I am more then half way by the calendar but I am not sure. The wiring planning is almost over powering. Just take it one day and one thing at a time. [Shocked] If you are considering building a 10, at this stage of my construction, my best suggestion would be to plan, plan, order, plan, start building, plan and then some more planning. And enjoy it all the way. It is addicting! 8) It will also help if you are able to do most of your construction at home, unless you are lucky enough to have an attached hanger. [Laughing] -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Fuselage SB (N410GB reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154610#154610 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:09 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube From: "johngoodman" patrick.pulis(at)seagas.c wrote: > Hi guys, I have the same pitot. Could you please tell me what size > drill and tap you used for your pitot in order to enable mounting to the > Gretz mount. > > Many thanks in anticipation. > > Patrick > #40299 VH-XPP > Adelaide, South Australia > > -- Patrick, I'll have to check my notes but I think I drilled it out to a #6 screw. Got stainless steel ones from Aircraft Spruce. John -------- #40572 QB Wings, QB Fuse arrived N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154635#154635 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:14 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube From: "Patrick Pulis" Thanks John, I'd appreciate the drill and tap size when you get a chance - no hurry. Wishing you a safe and happy new year mate. Regards Pat Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: johngoodman [mailto:johngoodman@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, 28 December 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Pitot tube --> patrick.pulis(at)seagas.c wrote: > Hi guys, I have the same pitot. Could you please tell me what size > drill and tap you used for your pitot in order to enable mounting to > the Gretz mount. > > Many thanks in anticipation. > > Patrick > #40299 VH-XPP > Adelaide, South Australia > > -- Patrick, I'll have to check my notes but I think I drilled it out to a #6 screw. Got stainless steel ones from Aircraft Spruce. John -------- #40572 QB Wings, QB Fuse arrived N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154635#154635 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:07 PM PST US From: EFDsteve@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: collision avoidance Does anyone know anything about Aveo Engineering's offerings? I saw this company at Oshkosh this year, and they were displaying a very interesting line of products. I haven't heard much of anything about them. Here's their transponder/com/traffic unit for a mere $1,577: _http://www.aveousa.net/av57inavdi1.html_ (http://www.aveousa.net/av57inavdi1.html) Steve Weinstock 40230 In a message dated 12/19/2007 2:44:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, wcurtis@nerv10.com writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: "William Curtis" Ah, got it. But I think it is the fault of the competition (Bendix/King, Chelton, L3, Aviddyne, et al). I guess I'm trying to figure out what is preventing the competition from coming out with their own product and giving Garmin a run for their money. I don't see the experimental EFIS makers entering this market because as with Transponders and GPS, ADS-B devices will probably have to be TSO'd, even for experimentals. Garmin used GPS to spearhead their way to avionics dominance, and nothing I see should prevent one of the other vendors from using ADS-B to do the same. I don't see this a the fault of Garmin, I see it as the fault of the so-called competition. William http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Suess -------- Original Message -------- > > Lack of viable competition creates a stranglehold for most competitors > and hence the customer. More suppliers, constant demand - better > pricing. The GDL-90 is made in Salem, Oregon. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William > Curtis > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 7:51 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: collision avoidance > > > Since there is nothing proprietary about ADS-B, how does "Oregon based > Garmin" have a "stranglehold?" > > William (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:35 PM PST US From: Les Kearney Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: collision avoidance Hi Steve I saw their products at KOSH as well. Like yourself I was very interested especially when looking at the *promised* functionality versus cost. I have traded emails with the owners over the past few months but so far everything seems to be in the future. If you contact them and get any additional info, I would be interested. Cheers Les Kearney #40643 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EFDsteve@aol.com Sent: December-27-07 9:28 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: collision avoidance Does anyone know anything about Aveo Engineering's offerings? I saw this company at Oshkosh this year, and they were displaying a very interesting line of products. I haven't heard much of anything about them. Here's their transponder/com/traffic unit for a mere $1,577: http://www.aveousa.net/av57inavdi1.html Steve Weinstock 40230 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:45 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Build Time From: "AirMike" Running at 1116 hrs after start of 1/3/07. Q/B kit Planning and advance ordering is essential. The FG-composite work is far more challenging time-wise than I had anticipated. Working on the doors now. Next step is finishing the wings. I am out sourcing the panel as I want to get in the air having been without a plane for a year. A lot of the work has to do with how good you want your work to be. Little stuff like adding nut plates to the tail cone and installing the tail cone strobe took 3 days!!!! ouch! Winter is rough also as deliveries are always an issue and working on the plexi windows difficult (heat the bathroom to 85 degrees). Epoxy seems to be made for 60-80 degrees and curing the stuff slows to a crawl. Even 2 part paints take forever to cure off. I think that keeping the project in the garage as long as possible is also helpful Finally, I want to thank the RV builders that advised me to keep mods to a minimum. Mods are real time killers. The Vans designs are pretty good. If you can shop agressively at OSH or Sun-n-fun you will probably pay for the trip and have some fun while you are at it. My mod list is short: 1. Inspection port for step bolt - loose steps are a PITA 2. Alex "D"'s high capacity oil cooler - hot in Nevada 3. SS vent boxes for the firewall EPM.AV corp - not too hot 4. Matco parking brake 5. Might change to flex fuel lines 6. Not really a mod, but I put in my rear windows and cabin top upholstery before attaching the cabin top. I think that this is a real time saver and cannot imagine doing these two things upside down. Engine Mattituck TMX-IO540 - good deal at OSH Hartzell 2x from Vans Final advice - buy early - it will only cost more in 4-5 months -------- OSH '08 or Bust Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/fiberglass stuff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=154678#154678 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.