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1. 12:47 AM - Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family (neil)
2. 01:22 AM - Re: Kitplane's article, Ly-Con's case closed. (Simon Wilson)
3. 05:42 AM - Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family (Lew Gallagher)
4. 06:22 AM - Re: Kitplane's article, Ly-Con's case closed. (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
5. 06:33 AM - Re: Kitplane's article, Ly-Con's case closed. (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
6. 07:19 AM - Legs/wheelpants (Fred Williams, M.D.)
7. 07:57 AM - Re: Kitplane's article, Ly-Con's case closed. (johngoodman)
8. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family (Robin Marks)
9. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family (neil)
10. 11:28 AM - Re: Legs/wheelpants (Lew Gallagher)
11. 12:51 PM - Re: Re: qb kit-front floor panels removal and gear mount (MauleDriver)
12. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family (Paul Grimstad)
13. 02:59 PM - Re: Legs/wheelpants (Fred Williams, M.D.)
14. 03:25 PM - Re: Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
15. 06:21 PM - Re: Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family (neil)
16. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family (neil)
17. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: Kitplane's article, Ly-Con's case closed. (Kelly McMullen)
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| Subject: | Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family |
I really agree that there is so much international help available for
RV10 builders - thankfully. Without the help of many, inc Tim, Deems,
Gary, Will, Rhonda, Stein etc, we couldn't have done it. Great service
from the whole community, even at silly times of day.
Good job too, as there is still only 1 RV10 in NZ.
But we do have the best scenery on the planet:-)
Come on you Aussie builders - how about a short trip across the ditch?
We hope to be with you next month - any suggestions as to places to
visit?
Neil & Sarah
ZK-RVT
56 hours.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitplane's article, Ly-Con's case closed. |
I have been reading the engine debate with some interest. There are pros and
cons to all types.
Just to stir the pot a little more!!!! have a look at this South African
development.
http://www.adeptairmotive.com/site/default.asp
It hasn't even flown yet, but it is running. It has been designed from the
ground up as a GA engine.
Turbocharged, 320hp at 5500 rpm, 70% 210hp at 2300 rpm, Integrated PSRU,
Liquid cooled, Compatible with Avgas OR Mogas, FADEC, 130kg (287lb).
Targeted TBO is in excess of 2000 hours. The engine has a fairly oversquare
bore/stroke ratio (98mm x 70mm) in order to keep piston speed low, as well
as fairly short con rods. Now before anybody has a go at the revs, the
average piston speed is actually lower than conventional GA engines because
of the oversquare setup.
It is a 120 degree V6 of 3.2 litre capacity. Real smooth.
Just for those with a little experimentation in their blood. Attached is a
picture.
Simon Wilson
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| Subject: | Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family |
Neil, From a street rod builder's point of view, flames are so cool! But my buddy
who owns the RV-10 we're building says flames are definitely something he
does NOT want on his plane! Please send more pictures.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
waiting on RV-10 finishing kit
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=156515#156515
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| Subject: | Re: Kitplane's article, Ly-Con's case closed. |
In a message dated 1/7/2008 3:24:40 AM Central Standard Time,
simon@sertech.com.au writes:
Just to stir the pot a little more!!!! have a look at this South African
development.
Their strategy is to price this experimental engine...unproven ...at
Lycoming and Continental's current prices, because they say it will weight less
than
current engines. Apparently they do not intend to have it certified.
So let me understand...they want what the current certified guys want for
engines, they want the experimental builders pay extra for a weight difference
and the experimenal operators, take all the risk; plus they are based in a
country where you can't take any legal action if this engine poops out and
kills you...sounds like a deal to me...
**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
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| Subject: | Re: Kitplane's article, Ly-Con's case closed. |
In a message dated 1/6/2008 1:48:30 PM Central Standard Time,
Kearney@shaw.ca writes:
Even operating at 75% of maximum power and rpm limits, it is reasonable to
expect a TBO of at least 1000 hours in aircraft use.
Cheers
Les
Les,
What do you think this belief in 1000 hours is based on?
**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
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Lew;
Here's the link to the pics for the wheel pants. :
http://picasaweb.google.com/drfredparis/Engine
As you can see from the pics I still have some sanding to do. Also, I
did not want to sound harsh in my email about the top fairings from
farings-etc. I'm sure they make a great product. I just decided not to
use them. I'll take some more pics when I put them back on. However,
it was 75 deg here in Paris yesterday and I decided to roll the plane
out side and put the engine on last night. Lets see: do I want to sand
or hang the engine???
As for the DRDT dimpler. Looks great, just make sure you get the good
spring back dimple dies. It makes all the difference.
Couple hints that will help. Both Tim Olsen and Deems Davis have done a
great job in documenting pics and mods for most everything. Check
there sites out for pics and tips.
Regarding the engine cowling: I decided to use the skybolt along the
top and sides and use hinges for the lower cowl. There is a link to
them on vansairforce.net. They have the kit all set up for what you
decide to do.
Dr Fred
40515
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| Subject: | Re: Kitplane's article, Ly-Con's case closed. |
Aaahh, Engines! If you want to get real exotic, try these:
The StarRotor Corp. Brayton cycle engine
http://www.starrotor.com/Engine.htm
The Beare Six Cycle engine
http://www.sixstroke.com/index.html
The infamous Axial Vector Engine Corp.
http://www.axialvectorengine.com/index.html
The Air Force HTRE-3 nuclear aircraft engine
http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/ID/Airfields_ID_N.htm
My favorite is electric drag racing.
http://www.nedra.com/
These guys are actually breaking track records. They use electric fork lift motors
with lots of batteries.......I think I'm going to need a larger battery tray
than the one Van sent me....... [Wink]
--------
#40572 QB Wings, QB Fuse arrived
N711JG reserved
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=156541#156541
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| Subject: | Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family |
Neil, YES More Pictures Please...
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family |
As requested. - more pics of beautiful NZ with a rather bright RV10.
At the World Gliding Grand Prix Championships at Omarama, in South
Island .
Back on our home strip.
Just east of Mount Cook
Over Mt Ruapehu - our local active volcano
A huge whirlpool, north of Kaikoura
If you would like larger pics, send PM.
On 8 Jan 2008, at 4:44, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Neil, YES More Pictures Please...
>
> Robin
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Legs/wheelpants |
Hey Fred,
Thanks for the pics! I've been devouring Tim's site, but only heard
reference to Deems. I immediately googled him and found his site -- and
spent the last half hour surfing!
Paris, France? This is great ... I just emailed a guy in New Zealand about
his paint job. My Step-Mom is from Chauny (between Paris and St. Quentin)
and they used to go every other summer until my Dad died in 1999. I toured
through in 1969 after being discharged from the Army (drafted in '67 - spent
'68-'69 in Vietnam) so I wasn't too happy with the U.S. and Europe was a
wonderful place to decompress.
Later, - Lew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Legs/wheelpants
> <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
>
> Lew;
>
> Here's the link to the pics for the wheel pants. :
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/drfredparis/Engine
>
> As you can see from the pics I still have some sanding to do. Also, I did
> not want to sound harsh in my email about the top fairings from
> farings-etc. I'm sure they make a great product. I just decided not to
> use them. I'll take some more pics when I put them back on. However, it
> was 75 deg here in Paris yesterday and I decided to roll the plane out
> side and put the engine on last night. Lets see: do I want to sand or
> hang the engine???
> As for the DRDT dimpler. Looks great, just make sure you get the good
> spring back dimple dies. It makes all the difference.
> Couple hints that will help. Both Tim Olsen and Deems Davis have done a
> great job in documenting pics and mods for most everything. Check there
> sites out for pics and tips.
> Regarding the engine cowling: I decided to use the skybolt along the top
> and sides and use hinges for the lower cowl. There is a link to them on
> vansairforce.net. They have the kit all set up for what you decide to do.
> Dr Fred
> 40515
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: qb kit-front floor panels removal and gear mount |
Too late - I'm going shopping. I was just sharing what I've been doing
so far. This is pure learning experience (not to mention new tool
acquisition)
Lew Gallagher wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I had trouble not stripping out the Phillip's heads on the side panels that were
on the QB fuse -- they were really tight. I even tried the hammer impact
driver on some. The advantage of these cordless impact drivers (don't think impact
wrench, like lug nut wrenches) is that they end with the impact when they
tighten, start with impact when they loosen. You also have no torque on the
wrist like you do with the drill/screw drivers. And there's almost no chance
of messing up the head of the screw.
>
> Keep what you've got if you're happy with it!
>
> Later, - Lew
>
> --------
> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> waiting on RV-10 finishing kit
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=156453#156453
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family |
Neil it's Beautiful! Thanks for all the effort. Can you get it to Oshkosh
this summer?
In bound for landing will be really cool, going down in flames.
Paul Grimstad
RV10 40450
Portland, Or.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "neil" <ncol@xtra.co.nz>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family
> As requested. - more pics of beautiful NZ with a rather bright RV10.
>
> At the World Gliding Grand Prix Championships at Omarama, in South
> Island .
>
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>
> Back on our home strip.
>
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>
> Just east of Mount Cook
>
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>
> Over Mt Ruapehu - our local active volcano
>
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> A huge whirlpool, north of Kaikoura
>
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>
> If you would like larger pics, send PM.
>
> On 8 Jan 2008, at 4:44, Robin Marks wrote:
>
>>
>> Neil, YES More Pictures Please...
>>
>> Robin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Legs/wheelpants |
Hate to let you down. Paris, Texas.
We do have a small Eiffel Tower.
Dr Fred.
Lew Gallagher wrote:
>
> Hey Fred,
>
> Thanks for the pics! I've been devouring Tim's site, but only heard
> reference to Deems. I immediately googled him and found his site --
> and spent the last half hour surfing!
>
> Paris, France? This is great ... I just emailed a guy in New Zealand
> about his paint job. My Step-Mom is from Chauny (between Paris and
> St. Quentin) and they used to go every other summer until my Dad died
> in 1999. I toured through in 1969 after being discharged from the
> Army (drafted in '67 - spent '68-'69 in Vietnam) so I wasn't too happy
> with the U.S. and Europe was a wonderful place to decompress.
>
> Later, - Lew
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Williams, M.D."
> <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
> To: "RV 10" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:52 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Legs/wheelpants
>
>
>> <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
>>
>> Lew;
>>
>> Here's the link to the pics for the wheel pants. :
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/drfredparis/Engine
>>
>> As you can see from the pics I still have some sanding to do. Also, I
>> did not want to sound harsh in my email about the top fairings from
>> farings-etc. I'm sure they make a great product. I just decided not
>> to use them. I'll take some more pics when I put them back on.
>> However, it was 75 deg here in Paris yesterday and I decided to roll
>> the plane out side and put the engine on last night. Lets see: do I
>> want to sand or hang the engine???
>> As for the DRDT dimpler. Looks great, just make sure you get the
>> good spring back dimple dies. It makes all the difference.
>> Couple hints that will help. Both Tim Olsen and Deems Davis have
>> done a great job in documenting pics and mods for most everything.
>> Check there sites out for pics and tips.
>> Regarding the engine cowling: I decided to use the skybolt along the
>> top and sides and use hinges for the lower cowl. There is a link to
>> them on vansairforce.net. They have the kit all set up for what you
>> decide to do.
>> Dr Fred
>> 40515
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family |
Geeze, if my wife wouldn't have done a silly thing like getting pregnant we would
have been down there fall of 2006. :) Oh well, Guess I can wait another
couple of years to get to NZ and then on to Oz again to visit some friends.
My travel agent is a Kiwi so I look forward to see where she sends us in your
beautiful country. Definitely want to do some skiing.
Michael
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of neil
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family
As requested. - more pics of beautiful NZ with a rather bright RV10.
At the World Gliding Grand Prix Championships at Omarama, in South Island .
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| Subject: | Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family |
Well if you had spent more late nights & early mornings building
planes......
My wife didn't get pregnant once while we were building ours!
mind you, our instructor said that flying around the tops of the
overcast at 5 feet (above the tops) was the most fun you could have
with your pants on! I think he may be right.
Neil
On 8 Jan 2008, at 8:54, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote
> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> Geeze, if my wife wouldn't have done a silly thing like getting
> pregnant we would have been down there fall of 2006. :) Oh well,
> Guess I can wait another couple of years to get to NZ and then on to
> Oz again to visit some friends. My travel agent is a Kiwi so I look
> forward to see where she sends us in your beautiful country.
> Definitely want to do some skiing.
>
> Michael
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
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| Subject: | Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family |
Hi Paul
Yes we are planning for Oshkosh this summer.
Neil
On 8 Jan 2008, at 10:12, Paul Grimstad wrote:
> <bldgrv10450@comcast.net>
>
> Neil it's Beautiful! Thanks for all the effort. Can you get it to
> Oshkosh this summer?
>
> In bound for landing will be really cool, going down in flames.
>
> Paul Grimstad
> RV10 40450
> Portland, Or.
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "neil" <ncol@xtra.co.nz>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Wonderful Oz-RV Family
>
>
>> As requested. - more pics of beautiful NZ with a rather bright RV10.
>>
>> At the World Gliding Grand Prix Championships at Omarama, in South
>> Island .
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitplane's article, Ly-Con's case closed. |
Heck you are missing the DynaCam, which IS a certified engine, that is
always going into production "next" year. Or you could totally ignore
Vans and mount up an Orenda engine that also is certified at somewhere
around 5-600hp.
On Jan 7, 2008 8:52 AM, johngoodman <johngoodman@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Aaahh, Engines! If you want to get real exotic, try these:
>
> The StarRotor Corp. Brayton cycle engine
> http://www.starrotor.com/Engine.htm
>
> The Beare Six Cycle engine
> http://www.sixstroke.com/index.html
>
> The infamous Axial Vector Engine Corp.
> http://www.axialvectorengine.com/index.html
>
> The Air Force HTRE-3 nuclear aircraft engine
> http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/ID/Airfields_ID_N.htm
>
> My favorite is electric drag racing.
> http://www.nedra.com/
> These guys are actually breaking track records. They use electric fork lift motors
with lots of batteries.......I think I'm going to need a larger battery
tray than the one Van sent me....... [Wink]
>
> --------
> #40572 QB Wings, QB Fuse arrived
> N711JG reserved
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=156541#156541
>
>
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