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1. 06:06 AM - Re: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale? (speckter@comcast.net)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Insurance (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
3. 06:52 AM - Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? (Jesse Saint)
4. 07:00 AM - Re: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale? (Jesse Saint)
5. 09:15 AM - Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? (William Curtis)
6. 11:17 AM - Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (Jon Reining)
7. 11:39 AM - Re: Heated Pitot (Rob Hunter)
8. 11:44 AM - Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (Tim Olson)
9. 12:37 PM - Re: Heated Pitot (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
10. 12:57 PM - Re: Heated Pitot (Rob Hunter)
11. 01:13 PM - Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? (linn Walters)
12. 02:14 PM - Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? (Jesse Saint)
13. 02:27 PM - Re: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale? (Jon Reining)
14. 02:57 PM - Re: Insurance (Dj Merrill)
15. 03:08 PM - Trimming the cowling (Michael Wellenzohn)
16. 03:37 PM - Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (David McNeill)
17. 03:44 PM - Re: Heated Pitot (David McNeill)
18. 03:51 PM - Re: Trimming the cowling (David McNeill)
19. 04:09 PM - Re: Heated Pitot (David McNeill)
20. 05:36 PM - Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
21. 06:27 PM - Re: Insurance (Dj Merrill)
22. 07:02 PM - Re: Trimming the cowling (jim berry)
23. 07:53 PM - Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? (William Curtis)
24. 07:57 PM - Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (Tim Olson)
25. 08:14 PM - Re: Trimming the cowling (Fred Williams, M.D.)
26. 08:17 PM - Re: Heated Pitot (kilopapa@antelecom.net)
27. 08:27 PM - Re: Re: Trimming the cowling (David Maib)
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| Subject: | Re: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale? |
The Georgia Bulldogs were chasing them back home.
Gary
40274
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
Next thing you know we will have these spray painted paw prints all over the forum
:)
How did you Clemson Tigers ever find your way to the game before stencils and spray
paint!!
Rick S.
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: GenGrumpy@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:17:38 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale?
Lew,
Not sure if someone can help you find more of the kit.
The RV 10 is a wonderful airplane, however you get to first flight......
Take your time, do it your way, and have an expert look over your work.
You'll love the end product.
If you haven't flown in one, you need to.
Mine should be back in the air from the painter in a month or so.
If you happen to be a CLEMSON TIGER, you might even entice me to come over and
take you for a ride to show you what a great airplane it is........
grumpy
N184JM class of 68 and waiting on Leonardo de Loehle to finish the next masterpiece....
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In a message dated 1/22/2008 9:13:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, lewgall@charter.net
writes:
Hey Guys,
Let me know if this inappropriate for this forum, but I thought I'd put out a feeler.
I'm having such a blast helping build my friend's RV-10 that I've decided to start
my own. I've found and purchased the tail/emp kit from a builder that decided
not to finish it and I'm getting my own builder's number transferred from
him. I drove 4 hrs. one way Sun. before X-mas to get it ... my wife is convinced
I've totally lost it!
I'm on a much more limited budget than my fellow builder and have lot's of patience,
so I'm wondering if there are builders out there that started a SB wing
or fuse kit, and would want to sell it to me so that they can get the QB kit.
I'm in Greenville,SC and I can pick it up within the 4 hr. driving time radius
-- maybe a little more if the price is right!
I'll either end up with a new passion and learn to fly it -- or one heck of a yard
ornament!
Later - Lew
--------
non-pilot
crazy about building
RV-10 finishing kit has arrived!
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<DIV>The Georgia Bulldogs were chasing them back home.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Gary</DIV>
<DIV>40274</DIV>
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<P>Next thing you know we will have these spray painted paw prints all over the
forum :)</P>
<P>How did you Clemson Tigers ever find your way to the game before stencils and
spray paint!!</P>
<P>Rick S.</P>
<P>40185</P>
<P>do not archive<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: GenGrumpy@aol.com<BR>To:
rv10-list@matronics.com<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:17:38 PM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles<BR>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slow (Standard) build fuse
and wing kits for sale?<BR><BR></P>
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<DIV>Lew,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Not sure if someone can help you find more of the kit.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The RV 10 is a wonderful airplane, however you get to first flight......</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Take your time, do it your way, and have an expert look over your work.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You'll love the end product.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you haven't flown in one, you need to.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Mine should be back in the air from the painter in a month or so.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you happen to be a CLEMSON TIGER, you might even entice me to come over
and take you for a ride to show you what a great airplane it is........</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>grumpy</DIV>
<DIV>N184JM class of 68 and waiting on Leonardo de Loehle to finish the next masterpiece....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>do not archive</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 1/22/2008 9:13:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, lewgall@charter.net
writes:</DIV>
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RV10-List message posted by: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net><BR><BR>Hey
Guys,<BR><BR>Let me know if this inappropriate for this forum,
but I thought I'd put out a feeler.<BR><BR>I'm having such a blast helping build
my friend's RV-10 that I've decided to start my own. I've found and
purchased the tail/emp kit from a builder that decided not to finish it and I'm
getting my own builder's number transferred from him. I drove 4 hrs.
one way Sun. before X-mas to get it ... my wife is convinced I've totally lost
it! <BR><BR>I'm on a much more limited budget than my fellow builder and
have lot's of patience, so I'm wondering if there are builders out there that
started a SB wing or fuse kit, and would want to sell it to me so that they
can get the QB kit. I'm in Greenville,SC and I
can pi
ck it up within the 4 hr. driving time radius -- maybe a little more if the price is right!<BR><BR>I'll either end up with a new passion and learn to fly it -- or one heck of a yard ornament!<BR><BR>Later - Lew<BR><BR>--------<BR>non-pilot<BR>crazy about building<BR>RV-10 finishing kit has arrived!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Read this topic online here:<BR><BR>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=159902#159902<BR><BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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In a message dated 1/22/2008 4:26:35 PM Central Standard Time, deej@deej.net
writes:
Yes, this would appear to be true, and both may be able to log PIC
time if it is agreed beforehand that the safety pilot will act as the
legal PIC during the time that the pilot manipulating the controls is
under the hood.
Not playing FAA here but I believe your agreement to how to operate has
nothing to do with PIC time, it's pretty well spelled out in the
regulations...you must be at the controls to be PIC other than that you can log
the time but
not as PIC...I've been at a number of FAA seminars where this was presented
and discussed. The only duel PIC time is for CFI/I, generally...
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? |
Eric,
I haven't heard of any recommended change. The breather tube that
comes with the FWF kit fits the same size hose as fits on all breather
fittings on the engines I have used. The only time I have seen a
reduction needed is when an air-oil separator is being used.
In answer to your question, I don't think so.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jan 22, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Eric Parlow wrote:
>
>
> Does Van's in the FFw kit recommend changing the breather hose
> nipple fitting from the 3/4" fitting that was supplied with the
> engine to a 1/2" fitting?
>
> ERic--
> RV-10 40014
> N104EP
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale? |
Next thing you know we are going to start talking politics... :-)
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:59 AM, speckter@comcast.net wrote:
> The Georgia Bulldogs were chasing them back home.
>
> Gary
> 40274
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
> Next thing you know we will have these spray painted paw prints all
> over the forum :)
>
> How did you Clemson Tigers ever find your way to the game before
> stencils and spray paint!!
>
> Rick S.
>
> 40185
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Engine Breather Fitting Change? |
Nope, no change required. My only issue is that with the angled oil filter adapter
on my TMX-IO-540 engine, the breather tube is too close to the oil filter.
At best it will just touch the oil filter, at worst, it will make the oil filter
difficult to remove. I'm in the process of re-positioning it. Aircraft
spruce has the six foot length of 1" X 0.035" 5052 aluminum tube for $20. Now
I need a 1" tube bender. Pre bent breather tube from Vans is $49.
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those
who matter don't mind."
-- Dr. Suess
-------- Original Message --------
> Does Van's in the FFw kit recommend changing the breather hose nipple fitting
from the 3/4" fitting that was supplied with the engine to a 1/2" fitting?
ERic--
RV-10 40014
N104EP
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| Subject: | Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon |
I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB) and it looks like
there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does anybody have any experience
with either of them? Recommendations? Any other products? How useful have
you found the Spot feature of sending a message to a group of people to check-in?
Thanks
Jon Reining
40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage gets finished)
Read this topic online here:
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Just more food for thought.
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=41233
<http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=41233&key=0> &key=0
Rob Hunter
40432 fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
Yes, thanks for the great story. I didn't want to start the rant on
light IFR but said perfectly below per my experience.
It occurs to me that the pitot icing might have been fortunate in CJ's
case - good warning of airframe icing. I've only actually been aware of
pitot icing once and the airframe was icing at the same rate (whew!!!).
I'm thinking that anytime the pitot is subject to icing, the airframe is
doing the same but I don't know if that's actually the case.
Bill "piling on" Watson
John Jessen wrote:
<n212pj@gmail.com>
CJ: good story to share, and good logic that a heated pitot is a cheap
insurance (life) investment. If you plan to have an IFR panel, do it
right.
Backup instrumentation, navs, comms, batteries for critical flight
instruments, electrical generation... Don't screw around with IFR.
Don't
ever consider IFR as light vs something else. Consider it IFR, period.
End
of rant.
John Jessen
40328
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Johnston
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
--> <mailto:CJohnston@popsound.com> <CJohnston@popsound.com>
Just a point of interest that I'd add here.
***alert - dark and stormy night story below! If you're bored by dumb
newbie
flying stories, it would suffice to say that I'm pro pitot heat for an
aircraft that is meant to fly cross country, or any IFR flights.
Last year I was working on my instrument rating, and it just happened to
be
the rainiest couple months that SoCal had on record, which was just
perfect
for getting actual IMC time. During one of my more stressful flights,
we
were puttering around the Los Angeles area, doing approaches into a
bunch of
different airports. It was bumpy, it was night, and it was a handful.
One
of those flights that you just have to keep battling with your inner
ear,
because if you didn't have a good scan going, you'd believe that the
airplane was doing backflips. The freezing level dropped a bit, and we
started picking up rime ice. We started to head back to SMO, and with
all
that was going on, I forgot to turn on the pitot heat. It really should
have been on from takeoff. Anyway, I was already seeing that we weren't
getting the speed that we should have at a known power setting. It was
just
a couple knots slow, but since we were in the clouds, we knew it
wouldn't be
long before a bit slow turned into real slow. Now I'm staring at the
ASI
and comparing it to the ALT, the VSI, and the AI, keeping my scan going,
and
the ASI slows, slows, slows, and goes to zero. During the time that it
was
slowing, my brain had to work overtime comparing instruments to sort out
what was happening. I had figured it out before it got to zero and
flipped
on the pitot heat. The instructor and I just sat there, waiting for it
to
come back alive. Which it did after what seemed like an eternity. All
that
partial panel stuff really works, but at the time I was very much in
practice. Ultimately, we advised ATC of our situation, got lower (after
what seemed like forever waiting for a Lear or Citation to get down
ahead of
us) and landed home safe. I obviously learned quite a bit from this
experience, and it remains the absolute scariest experience that I've
had in
an airplane. I'd caution against the notion of light IFR, and I would
never
contemplate flying IFR without pitot heat. You definitely never mean to
pick up ice, and the above was my only (to
date) experience with it. knowing a bit more today than I did when this
happened, I realize now that my personal minimums are quite a bit higher
than my instructors were. I dunno. I guess that's a really long way of
saying that I think pitot heat is cheap and worthwhile insurance.
Just my experience, and just to be clear, I'm probably the lowest PIC
time
instrument rated pilot you'll find. I gots lots to learn.
Cj
#40410
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
<mailto:apilot2@gmail.com> <apilot2@gmail.com>
No regulatory requirement for heated pitot. Depends on typical icing
where
you typically fly. I flew years with unheated pitot where I got rime
icing.
Never blocked pitot. I would expect it would be more essential where
clear
ice is more common. If you stay out of icing (good plan) heated pitot
isn't
needed at all, just depends on whether you feel the need for that extra
insurance.
On Jan 22, 2008 12:32 AM, AirMike <mailto:Mikeabel@pacbell.net>
<Mikeabel@pacbell.net> wrote:
<mailto:Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
I am a high time VFR pilot. I am trying to get my plane set up for
lite IFR.
In other words - installing one Garmin SL30 with GS & Audio w/MB lites
I have been advised by others in EAA and prior posts on this site that
having a heated Pitot is a must.
Is Gretz GA1000 the best choice. I am already on board with the
Advanced Flight systems AF-3500 system with AOA
--------
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Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/fiberglass stuff
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| Subject: | Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon |
You of course mean unofficial when you are talking about
Spot, right? It's not the same or a direct substitute
for the 406mhz stuff that the ACR's and others can do.
It's a subscription based thing, that would be great for
letting friends and family track you, but won't be the same
as having a real PLB.
For regular real PLB's, I got this ACR unit before my last
trip. It's real nice and small, and it's officially
registered and has the emergency contacts set up on the
NOAA system. The price here is the best I could find,
after hours and of searching:
http://www.life-raft.com/dept.asp?d_id=9858&l1=9858
You won't find it for less.
PLB's are registered and there is no fee. The Spot
unit is very cool, but over 5 years you'll spend more
for the Spot than you will for a PLB. But, if you're
into having your friends and family track you, it
would be a cool thing. I'd probably do it, if I could
pay $25/yr, but for the price it is, I can live with
just having flightaware.com track my IFR flights.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Jon Reining wrote:
> <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
>
> I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB) and
> it looks like there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does
> anybody have any experience with either of them? Recommendations?
> Any other products? How useful have you found the Spot feature of
> sending a message to a group of people to check-in?
>
> Thanks Jon Reining 40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage
> gets finished)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160011#160011
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Heated Pitot |
Rob a sad accident report...but they call the weather IFR...yet say the
visibility was 5+ unlimited and ceiling 2,500' although they note sleet...seems
something on weather is missing...sadly 3 fatals...
P
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This actually happened at altitude. The weather was at the accident
site. They had ob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
Rob a sad accident report...but they call the weather IFR...yet say the
visibility was 5+ unlimited and ceiling 2,500' although they note
sleet...seems something on weather is missing...sadly 3 fatals...
P
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? |
Hit up your local electrician or a rental supply place and get a 1"
conduit hickey. Should work just fine. But, be aware ..... I haven't
done it!!!
Linn
William Curtis wrote:
>
>Nope, no change required. My only issue is that with the angled oil filter adapter
on my TMX-IO-540 engine, the breather tube is too close to the oil filter.
At best it will just touch the oil filter, at worst, it will make the oil
filter difficult to remove. I'm in the process of re-positioning it. Aircraft
spruce has the six foot length of 1" X 0.035" 5052 aluminum tube for $20. Now
I need a 1" tube bender. Pre bent breather tube from Vans is $49.
>
>William
>http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and
those who matter don't mind."
>-- Dr. Suess
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>
>
>
>>Does Van's in the FFw kit recommend changing the breather hose nipple fitting
from the 3/4" fitting that was supplied with the engine to a 1/2" fitting?
>>
>>
>
> ERic--
> RV-10 40014
> N104EP
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? |
William,
I have used the TMXIO-540 twice and have not had a problem with the
angle adapter and the breather. Are you sure you have the breather in
the right place? I don't want to insult your intelligence, so I could
be missing something obvious, but I have never had an issue with
that. Do you have a picture?
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:08 PM, linn Walters wrote:
> Hit up your local electrician or a rental supply place and get a 1"
> conduit hickey. Should work just fine. But, be aware ..... I
> haven't done it!!!
> Linn
>
>
> William Curtis wrote:
>> <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>>
>> Nope, no change required. My only issue is that with the angled
>> oil filter adapter on my TMX-IO-540 engine, the breather tube is
>> too close to the oil filter. At best it will just touch the oil
>> filter, at worst, it will make the oil filter difficult to remove.
>> I'm in the process of re-positioning it. Aircraft spruce has the
>> six foot length of 1" X 0.035" 5052 aluminum tube for $20. Now I
>> need a 1" tube bender. Pre bent breather tube from Vans is $49.
>>
>> William
>> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>> "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't
>> matter and those who matter don't mind."
>> -- Dr. Suess
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>>
>>
>>> Does Van's in the FFw kit recommend changing the breather hose
>>> nipple fitting from the 3/4" fitting that was supplied with the
>>> engine to a 1/2" fitting?
>>>
>>
>> ERic--
>> RV-10 40014
>> N104EP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale? |
Lew - You're not alone. I started to build before I learned to fly. Careful,
its very addicting. Of course, the problem now is, go out and have fun flying
or stay home and build - tough decision but I'm up to the challenge. :)
Jon Reining - PPSEL (I'm checking the mailbox daily for the permanent card to arrive
in the mail - and looking forward to starting instrument training sometime
soon)
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GRANSCOTT@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1/22/2008 4:26:35 PM Central Standard Time,
> deej@deej.net writes:
>
> Yes, this would appear to be true, and both may be able to log PIC
> time if it is agreed beforehand that the safety pilot will act as the
> legal PIC during the time that the pilot manipulating the controls is
> under the hood.
>
> Not playing FAA here but I believe your agreement to how to operate
> has nothing to do with PIC time, it's pretty well spelled out in the
> regulations...you must be at the controls to be PIC other than that
> you can log the time but not as PIC...I've been at a number of FAA
> seminars where this was presented and discussed. The only duel PIC
> time is for CFI/I, generally...
>
> P
The info was taken from an FAQ published by the FAA, which does show
that the regulations allow the safety pilot to log PIC time.
You can find a subset of it on Rod Machado's website here:
<http://www.rodmachado.com/Articles/Logging_Flight_Time2.htm>
along with a link to the original FAA information.
fyi
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118
http://deej.net/sportsman/
"Many things that are unexplainable happen during the construction of an
airplane." --Dave Prizio, 30 Aug 2005
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| Subject: | Trimming the cowling |
Guys,
I am hesitating to trim the cowling due to the fact that the straight edge method
doesn't give me the possibility to make a line along the side.
How did you do it?
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
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| Subject: | Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon |
Check Fastfind GPS plus. about $600.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Reining
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:11 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
--> <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB) and it
looks like there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does anybody have any
experience with either of them? Recommendations? Any other products? How
useful have you found the Spot feature of sending a message to a group of
people to check-in?
Thanks
Jon Reining
40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage gets finished)
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The reason is that all three pitot tubes iced; trapping low altitude air
pressure inside. due to the rapid climb the decreasing outside static
pressure made the airspeed seem to continue to rise. The crew marveled at
the airspeed and kept pitching up to slow the aircraft which just made the
airspeed indication go higher. They ignored the attitude indicator and the
aircraft finally entered a stall/spin at about 30+ degrees nose up. Took
about a minute to hit the ground. IIRC they were on their way to pick up the
Buffalo football team.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
Rob a sad accident report...but they call the weather IFR...yet say the
visibility was 5+ unlimited and ceiling 2,500' although they note
sleet...seems something on weather is missing...sadly 3 fatals...
P
_____
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| Subject: | Trimming the cowling |
You need the flexible steel scale which bends nicely. Another technique is
to mark the distances on the fuselage about every three inches and connect
the dots. Then make an initial cut about .1" short of the aft end of the
starting cowl so that additional trimming can take place with files and
sanding blocks. IIRC we started with the bottom and matched the top to it.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:03 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Trimming the cowling
--> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Guys,
I am hesitating to trim the cowling due to the fact that the straight edge
method doesn't give me the possibility to make a line along the side.
How did you do it?
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
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In case you are wondering it can also happen in the descent. Iced in cruise
and starting a descent the airspeed can indicate lower (or decreasing) than
actual due to trapped pitot pressure at altitude. unless you pay attention
to the attitude indicator you may be adding power and making a higher than
normal approach speed even thought the airspeed indication shows normal
approach speed. Never fixate on a single instrument , but consider them in
total. Also there is a difference between IFR and IMC. all airline flights
are required to be IFR but most have little if any IMC.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
The reason is that all three pitot tubes iced; trapping low altitude air
pressure inside. due to the rapid climb the decreasing outside static
pressure made the airspeed seem to continue to rise. The crew marveled at
the airspeed and kept pitching up to slow the aircraft which just made the
airspeed indication go higher. They ignored the attitude indicator and the
aircraft finally entered a stall/spin at about 30+ degrees nose up. Took
about a minute to hit the ground. IIRC they were on their way to pick up the
Buffalo football team.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
Rob a sad accident report...but they call the weather IFR...yet say the
visibility was 5+ unlimited and ceiling 2,500' although they note
sleet...seems something on weather is missing...sadly 3 fatals...
P
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<http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> in
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| Subject: | Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon |
The thing with the SPOT service is what happens if you let your subscription expire
and you trigger the "911" button. Seems to me they would be opening themselves
up for some serious liability if they didn't route it to SAR resources.
I believe Onstar will respond to an emergency even if you don't subscribe to
the service for that exact reason. Same thing with cell phones, 911 works regardless
of any subscription or lack thereof. Anyone know if this is the case
with SPOT? If it is it would be one cheap PLB.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
You of course mean unofficial when you are talking about
Spot, right? It's not the same or a direct substitute
for the 406mhz stuff that the ACR's and others can do.
It's a subscription based thing, that would be great for
letting friends and family track you, but won't be the same
as having a real PLB.
For regular real PLB's, I got this ACR unit before my last
trip. It's real nice and small, and it's officially
registered and has the emergency contacts set up on the
NOAA system. The price here is the best I could find,
after hours and of searching:
http://www.life-raft.com/dept.asp?d_id=9858&l1=9858
You won't find it for less.
PLB's are registered and there is no fee. The Spot
unit is very cool, but over 5 years you'll spend more
for the Spot than you will for a PLB. But, if you're
into having your friends and family track you, it
would be a cool thing. I'd probably do it, if I could
pay $25/yr, but for the price it is, I can live with
just having flightaware.com track my IFR flights.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Jon Reining wrote:
> <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
>
> I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB) and
> it looks like there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does
> anybody have any experience with either of them? Recommendations?
> Any other products? How useful have you found the Spot feature of
> sending a message to a group of people to check-in?
>
> Thanks Jon Reining 40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage
> gets finished)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160011#160011
>
>
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There is also more information available on the AOPA web site here:
<http://www.aopa.org/members/files/topics/pic.html?>
Here are some snippets cut from that page:
"One topic that invariably pops up whenever there is a gathering of
pilots is the logging of pilot-in-command (PIC) time. The much-coveted
PIC time has been a controversial subject and can be very confusing.
After reading this, you may be amazed to find that there are many
different ways to log PIC!"
"Before we get started, we must define /pilot in command./ The PIC is,
by Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs), responsible for the safe
operation of the flight (FAR 1.1, 91.3). At any given time, there can
only be one acting PIC on a flight, no matter how many pilots are on
board the aircraft. To legally act as PIC, a private, commercial, and
airline transport pilot must have a current medical certificate and have
all required endorsements, ratings, and recency of experience for the
type of aircraft being flown and the flight conditions under which the
flight is conducted (FAR 61.3, 61.31, 61.56, 61.57). Sport pilots can
act as PIC with a valid and current driver's license in lieu of the FAA
medical (FAR 61.23). Before a flight is initiated, an agreement should
be made to determine who is to be acting as PIC."
"A pilot may log PIC time when he/she is the sole occupant of the
aircraft; is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for
which the pilot is rated or has privileges; or is acting as PIC where
more than one pilot is required (FAR 1.1, 61.51 [e])."
"The FARs provide several situations (see scenarios listed below) where
two or more pilots may log PIC time, even though there can only be one
pilot acting as PIC."
"When practicing flying in simulated instrument conditions with a safety
pilot, both the pilot flying the aircraft by reference to instruments
and the safety pilot may log PIC time if the safety pilot is acting as
PIC. As long as the pilot flying the aircraft is rated for the aircraft
being flown, he/she may log this time as PIC because he/she is sole
manipulator of the controls (FAR 61.51). Because the pilot flying will
be wearing a view-limiting device, a safety pilot will be a required
crewmember on board (FAR 91.109). The safety pilot may log as PIC any
flight time for which he/she is acting PIC in an operation requiring
more than one pilot crewmember (FAR 61.51)."
"To act as a safety pilot, a current medical certificate is required
because a safety pilot will be acting as a required pilot crewmember,
which requires a current medical certificate (FAR 61.3)."
fyi
-Dj
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming the cowling |
I was able to trim mine to a very close fit with 2 layers of masking tape. Two
inch wide tape works well for the cowl. Position the first layer of tape so that
the forward edge matches the forward edge of your sheet metal. Position your
upper or lower cowl per Van's instructions. Now position a second layer of tape
the same width as the first so that the aft edge matches the aft edge of the
first layer of tape. The forward edge of the second layer is your cut line.
Jim Berry
40482
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? |
Yeah, well I thought about that but threre is only one way to mount it. Pi
cture attached.=0A=0AWilliam=0Ahttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/=0A
=0A-------- Original Message --------=0A> =0A> William,=0A> =0A
> I have used the TMXIO-540 twice and have not had a problem with the
=0A> angle adapter and the breather. Are you sure you have the breather in
=0A> the right place? I don't want to insult your intelligence, so I
could =0A> be missing something obvious, but I have never had an issue
with =0A> that. Do you have a picture?=0A> =0A> do not archive
=0A> =0A> Jesse Saint=0A> Saint Aviation, Inc.=0A> jesse@sainta
viation.com=0A> Cell: 352-427-0285=0A> Fax: 815-377-3694=0A>
=0A> On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:08 PM, linn Walters wrote:=0A> =0A> > Hit
up your local electrician or a rental supply place and get a 1" =0A> >
conduit hickey. Should work just fine. But, be aware ..... I =0A> > h
aven't done it!!!=0A> > Linn=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > William Curtis w
>> <wcurtis@nerv10.com>=0A> >>=0A> >> Nope, no change required. My o
nly issue is that with the angled =0A> >> oil filter adapter on my TMX-
IO-540 engine, the breather tube is =0A> >> too close to the oil filter
. At best it will just touch the oil =0A> >> filter, at worst, it will
make the oil filter difficult to remove. =0A> >> I'm in the process o
f re-positioning it. Aircraft spruce has the =0A> >> six foot length o
f 1" X 0.035" 5052 aluminum tube for $20. Now I =0A> >> need a 1" tube
bender. Pre bent breather tube from Vans is $49.=0A> >>=0A> >> Will
iam=0A> >> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/=0A> >> "Be who you are and say
what you feel because those who mind don't =0A> >> matter and those who
matter don't mind."=0A> >> -- Dr. Suess =0A> >>=0A> >> -------- O
riginal Message --------=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>> Does Van's in the F
Fw kit recommend changing the breather hose =0A> >>> nipple fitting fro
m the 3/4" fitting that was supplied with the =0A> >>> engine to a 1/2"
fitting?=0A> >>>=0A> >>=0A> >> ERic--=0A> >> RV-10 40014
=0A> >> N104EP=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>
=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > =0A
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| Subject: | Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon |
I just read an article on it in a tech rag today that got me
thinking too. They said the service is $100/yr for the one
where you push a button to send a message or alert. But,
another $50/yr for the one that gives live intermittent tracking.
That's getting to be some serious subscription that could be
better spent on WX or other services...even charts. But then
I thought too about the chain of the alert. It said they'd
route it to the nearest 911 type emergency facility. I pictured
what would happen.
Sam -"Jim, we just got an alert from the GlobalStar system. It says
that someone is calling 911, and the coordinates are 46.180N
90.933W."
Jim- "Hmmm, I wonder what that could be. We're getting more and
more of these 911 alerts with no good info on exactly what
we're being alerted on. Whaddya think, Sam, you wanna drive on
out there and see what's going on? It looks like on the map
this thing is up in the Chequamegon Forest somewhere."
My thought is that, while a PLB gives the authorities a definite,
(you're legally responsible) registered name, and definite contact
list of emergency contacts, and additional registration info,
I don't know how some of the unofficial types of alerting will be
received by the individual departments. Especially as this
becomes more commonplace.
This isn't meant to disparage the product. I think it's really
cool, actually, and I can see buying one, if that subscription
price were dirt cheap, because it would be generally cool to
have. But, I just think that for actual emergency response, to
actually save your butt, you might be better off going with
one of the actual 406mhz type systems that are supported
well for marine, aviation, and other uses. At $550 a pop for
the top of the line portable PLB, with integral GPS, and
a 5 year battery, it seems that you could have a great PLB
system that over 10+ years would have a pretty good cost
per year, and be a real PLB.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> The thing with the SPOT service is what happens if you let your
> subscription expire and you trigger the "911" button. Seems to me
> they would be opening themselves up for some serious liability if
> they didn't route it to SAR resources. I believe Onstar will respond
> to an emergency even if you don't subscribe to the service for that
> exact reason. Same thing with cell phones, 911 works regardless of
> any subscription or lack thereof. Anyone know if this is the case
> with SPOT? If it is it would be one cheap PLB.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:38 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
>
>
> You of course mean unofficial when you are talking about Spot, right?
> It's not the same or a direct substitute for the 406mhz stuff that
> the ACR's and others can do. It's a subscription based thing, that
> would be great for letting friends and family track you, but won't be
> the same as having a real PLB.
>
> For regular real PLB's, I got this ACR unit before my last trip. It's
> real nice and small, and it's officially registered and has the
> emergency contacts set up on the NOAA system. The price here is the
> best I could find, after hours and of searching:
> http://www.life-raft.com/dept.asp?d_id=9858&l1=9858 You won't find it
> for less.
>
> PLB's are registered and there is no fee. The Spot unit is very
> cool, but over 5 years you'll spend more for the Spot than you will
> for a PLB. But, if you're into having your friends and family track
> you, it would be a cool thing. I'd probably do it, if I could pay
> $25/yr, but for the price it is, I can live with just having
> flightaware.com track my IFR flights.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
> Jon Reining wrote:
>> <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
>>
>> I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB)
>> and it looks like there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does
>> anybody have any experience with either of them? Recommendations?
>> Any other products? How useful have you found the Spot feature of
>> sending a message to a group of people to check-in?
>>
>> Thanks Jon Reining 40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage
>> gets finished)
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming the cowling |
Michael;
I did the first cut on the side of the cowl tonight. I used a laser
level and picked three points, one at the inside of the inlet, one at
the outside and one at the aft edge, then drew the line on the cowl.
I'll use that as my reference line. Next, will trim the bottom 1/2 up
to that line. Will see how well that works tomorrow night.
Question to those who used skybolt fasteners for the sides. How thick
of an aluminium strip did you use for the side fasteners? 0.050 as per
the top strip?
Dr Fred.
Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> I am hesitating to trim the cowling due to the fact that the straight edge method
doesn't give me the possibility to make a line along the side.
> How did you do it?
>
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160067#160067
>
>
>
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Good story!
Kevin
40494
do not archive
----- Original Message Follows -----
From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
>Just a point of interest that I'd add here.
>
>***alert - dark and stormy night story below! If you're
>bored by dumb newbie flying stories, it would suffice to
>say that I'm pro pitot heat for an aircraft that is meant
>to fly cross country, or any IFR flights.
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming the cowling |
Jim, I am confused. It sounds like the second layer of tape is
exactly on top of the first if the aft edge of the second layer
matches the aft edge of the first layer. I must be missing something
here. (would not be the first time!) Is the first layer of tape on
the sheet metal? The second layer on the cowl? Now I am confusing
myself even more! ^_^
David Maib
40559
On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:57 PM, jim berry wrote:
I was able to trim mine to a very close fit with 2 layers of masking
tape. Two inch wide tape works well for the cowl. Position the first
layer of tape so that the forward edge matches the forward edge of
your sheet metal. Position your upper or lower cowl per Van's
instructions. Now position a second layer of tape the same width as
the first so that the aft edge matches the aft edge of the first
layer of tape. The forward edge of the second layer is your cut line.
Jim Berry
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