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1. 03:21 AM - Re: Re: Trimming the cowling (David Maib)
2. 07:38 AM - Re: Coax stripping (John Ackerman)
3. 07:53 AM - Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (Randy Lervold)
4. 11:27 AM - Re: RV10-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 01/23/08 (Wyatt Prunty)
5. 07:40 PM - Re: Re: Upholstery (Chris)
6. 11:46 PM - Re: Upholstery (Michael Wellenzohn)
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming the cowling |
Thanks Jim!
David Maib
40559
On Jan 24, 2008, at 1:01 PM, jim berry wrote:
David,
The first layer of tape goes on so that the forward edge of the tape
matches the forward edge of sheet metal. Position the cowl. The
excess material on my untrimmed cowl overlapped the fuselage by less
than 2", so the aft edge of the tape was still visible. The second
layer of tape goes on top of the first tape so that the aft edges
match. The second tape also overlaps the cowling, with the forward
edge of the tape corresponding to the forward edge of the sheet
metal. Perfect match. Try it and you will like it.
Jim Berry
40482
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160274#160274
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| Subject: | Re: Coax stripping |
Hi Rick!
Thanks for the post.
Where do you find a stripper that adjust for length (as opposed to
depth) of cut? I'd have to move the blade 1/16". That's a lot!
I've made test connectors with some spare stuff BNCs that _look_ OK
to my unpractised eye, but the dimensions might (probably would) be
different and the right angle TNCs are not cheap.
I'm gonna pursue this with the connector vendor.
Best
John
On Jan 24, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Rick Sked wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Your in the ballpark, there should be just a smidge...(a
> thousandths or two) showing between the pin bottom flange and the
> top of the nylon inner insulator. If it is too short the pin will
> not engage the inner portion of the connector, you will almost hear
> and feel it click into place as you slide it into the connector. As
> Tim says sacrafice a piece of coax and a connector and see. Most
> BNC/TNC connectors come with a detailed measurement of inner
> conductor, inner insulator and outer insulator measurments. On my
> stripper, I measured each blade and adjusted them to the given
> measurements. Mine has a hex screw for each to adjust. It has
> worked like a charm since the inital setup.
>
> Rick S.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Ackerman" <johnag5b@cableone.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 6:57:10 PM (GMT-0800) America/
> Los_Angeles
> Subject: RV10-List: Coax stripping
>
>
> Can someone help a newbie with coax stripping?
>
> I'm hoping I'm just too tentative (fussy), but I have a traffic
> system that is exceptionally sensitive to coax antenna length. There
> are 4 antennae and they all have to have RG400 length of 16 feet and
> all four need to be matched in length. Two of them are routed more or
> less irreversibly, so one error in final assembly could be a
> disaster, or at least quite expensive.
>
> My 3-blade coax stripper (H-tools, Taiwan) is adjustable for depth
> of cut but not for length of insulator exposed. It cuts RG-400 like a
> charm with very little adjustment or learning required. However...
> First issue: The cutter leaves 0.32" of braid exposed. That
> corresponds nicely with the connector manufacturer's specs.
> Pasternack Enterprises model PE4450 right angle male TNC spec is
> 0.300" and PE4044 straight male TNC requires 0.325". Good! The
> cutter leaves 0.16" of insulation exposed. The Pasternack spec is
> 0.100". Not so good? There is no way to adjust that length. Could
> it be that the exposed length of insulator is not terribly critical,
> because Googling coax strippers doesn't show any units that specify
> the lengths that they cut, or any that allow adjustment of the
> exposed insulator length, although some, including mine, seem to be
> adjustable for length of exposed braid?
> Second issue: Fit of the center conductor into the pin. There's no
> spec on this, but It seems that 6 or so individual strands need to be
> clipped to let the conductor slide into the pin. Is this common? Am I
> missing something about fitting the conductor into the pin? Also, the
> spec for the exposed center conductor length is 0.100" (PE4044) or
> 0.125 (PE4450), but it appears that the pin will accept at least
> 0.180". Hmmm...
> Any help from the experts in this group is greatly appreciated.
> John Ackerman 40458
> trying to get as much done as possible before installing cabin lid.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon |
I agree with Tim's thinking on this issue which is why in my RV-3B, in which
an ELT is NOT required because it's a single place aircraft, I keep an ACR
MicroFix 406 Mhz Personal Locator Beacon. If I ever activate that thing I
will mean it, no kidding around. Here's a link with more info on my thought
process (scroll down just a bit)...
http://www.romeolima.com/RV3hq/Panel/panel.htm#Panel2
Randy Lervold
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
>
> I just read an article on it in a tech rag today that got me
> thinking too. They said the service is $100/yr for the one
> where you push a button to send a message or alert. But,
> another $50/yr for the one that gives live intermittent tracking.
> That's getting to be some serious subscription that could be
> better spent on WX or other services...even charts. But then
> I thought too about the chain of the alert. It said they'd
> route it to the nearest 911 type emergency facility. I pictured
> what would happen.
>
> Sam -"Jim, we just got an alert from the GlobalStar system. It says
> that someone is calling 911, and the coordinates are 46.180N
> 90.933W."
>
> Jim- "Hmmm, I wonder what that could be. We're getting more and
> more of these 911 alerts with no good info on exactly what
> we're being alerted on. Whaddya think, Sam, you wanna drive on
> out there and see what's going on? It looks like on the map
> this thing is up in the Chequamegon Forest somewhere."
>
>
> My thought is that, while a PLB gives the authorities a definite,
> (you're legally responsible) registered name, and definite contact
> list of emergency contacts, and additional registration info,
> I don't know how some of the unofficial types of alerting will be
> received by the individual departments. Especially as this
> becomes more commonplace.
>
> This isn't meant to disparage the product. I think it's really
> cool, actually, and I can see buying one, if that subscription
> price were dirt cheap, because it would be generally cool to
> have. But, I just think that for actual emergency response, to
> actually save your butt, you might be better off going with
> one of the actual 406mhz type systems that are supported
> well for marine, aviation, and other uses. At $550 a pop for
> the top of the line portable PLB, with integral GPS, and
> a 5 year battery, it seems that you could have a great PLB
> system that over 10+ years would have a pretty good cost
> per year, and be a real PLB.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>>
>> The thing with the SPOT service is what happens if you let your
>> subscription expire and you trigger the "911" button. Seems to me
>> they would be opening themselves up for some serious liability if
>> they didn't route it to SAR resources. I believe Onstar will respond
>> to an emergency even if you don't subscribe to the service for that
>> exact reason. Same thing with cell phones, 911 works regardless of
>> any subscription or lack thereof. Anyone know if this is the case
>> with SPOT? If it is it would be one cheap PLB.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:38 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
>>
>>
>> You of course mean unofficial when you are talking about Spot, right?
>> It's not the same or a direct substitute for the 406mhz stuff that
>> the ACR's and others can do. It's a subscription based thing, that
>> would be great for letting friends and family track you, but won't be
>> the same as having a real PLB.
>>
>> For regular real PLB's, I got this ACR unit before my last trip. It's
>> real nice and small, and it's officially registered and has the
>> emergency contacts set up on the NOAA system. The price here is the
>> best I could find, after hours and of searching:
>> http://www.life-raft.com/dept.asp?d_id=9858&l1=9858 You won't find it
>> for less.
>>
>> PLB's are registered and there is no fee. The Spot unit is very
>> cool, but over 5 years you'll spend more for the Spot than you will
>> for a PLB. But, if you're into having your friends and family track
>> you, it would be a cool thing. I'd probably do it, if I could pay
>> $25/yr, but for the price it is, I can live with just having
>> flightaware.com track my IFR flights.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>
>>
>> Jon Reining wrote:
>>> <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
>>>
>>> I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB)
>>> and it looks like there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does
>>> anybody have any experience with either of them? Recommendations? Any
>>> other products? How useful have you found the Spot feature of sending a
>>> message to a group of people to check-in?
>>>
>>> Thanks Jon Reining 40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage gets
>>> finished)
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 01/23/08 |
To the pilot looking to pursue "Lite IFR," in all humility I have say that
sooner or later there will be "Heavy IFR." If you fly much, especially
cross country, you will encounter something that will be a real challenge,
either for your level of experience (or current practice) or for your level
of instrumentation or for the airplane's capabilities. Maybe all of these.
If IFR is in your plans, then build with redundancy, as someone else said at
this site, and plan on regular practice with an instrcutor, you under the
hood, because, as I was told years ago, I have found it is a job for a
private pilot to get real IMC regularly enough to be as proficient as some
occasions require.
PS: An RV 10 is a pretty stable platform. All round nicest plane I've
flown, and seems to collect some of the nicest people too. Enjoy a fine
plane.
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Subject: RV10-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 01/23/08
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> 1. 06:06 AM - Re: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale?
> (speckter@comcast.net)
> 2. 06:06 AM - Re: Insurance (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
> 3. 06:52 AM - Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? (Jesse Saint)
> 4. 07:00 AM - Re: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale?
> (Jesse Saint)
> 5. 09:15 AM - Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? (William Curtis)
> 6. 11:17 AM - Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (Jon Reining)
> 7. 11:39 AM - Re: Heated Pitot (Rob Hunter)
> 8. 11:44 AM - Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (Tim Olson)
> 9. 12:37 PM - Re: Heated Pitot (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
> 10. 12:57 PM - Re: Heated Pitot (Rob Hunter)
> 11. 01:13 PM - Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? (linn Walters)
> 12. 02:14 PM - Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? (Jesse Saint)
> 13. 02:27 PM - Re: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale?
> (Jon Reining)
> 14. 02:57 PM - Re: Insurance (Dj Merrill)
> 15. 03:08 PM - Trimming the cowling (Michael Wellenzohn)
> 16. 03:37 PM - Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (David
> McNeill)
> 17. 03:44 PM - Re: Heated Pitot (David McNeill)
> 18. 03:51 PM - Re: Trimming the cowling (David McNeill)
> 19. 04:09 PM - Re: Heated Pitot (David McNeill)
> 20. 05:36 PM - Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (RV Builder
> (Michael Sausen))
> 21. 06:27 PM - Re: Insurance (Dj Merrill)
> 22. 07:02 PM - Re: Trimming the cowling (jim berry)
> 23. 07:53 PM - Re: Engine Breather Fitting Change? (William Curtis)
> 24. 07:57 PM - Re: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon (Tim Olson)
> 25. 08:14 PM - Re: Trimming the cowling (Fred Williams, M.D.)
> 26. 08:17 PM - Re: Heated Pitot (kilopapa@antelecom.net)
> 27. 08:27 PM - Re: Re: Trimming the cowling (David Maib)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:06:10 AM PST US
> From: speckter@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale?
>
> The Georgia Bulldogs were chasing them back home.
>
> Gary
> 40274
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
>
> Next thing you know we will have these spray painted paw prints all over
> the forum
> :)
> How did you Clemson Tigers ever find your way to the game before stencils
> and spray
> paint!!
> Rick S.
> 40185
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: GenGrumpy@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:17:38 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale?
>
>
> Lew,
>
> Not sure if someone can help you find more of the kit.
>
> The RV 10 is a wonderful airplane, however you get to first flight......
>
> Take your time, do it your way, and have an expert look over your work.
>
> You'll love the end product.
>
> If you haven't flown in one, you need to.
>
> Mine should be back in the air from the painter in a month or so.
>
> If you happen to be a CLEMSON TIGER, you might even entice me to come over
> and
> take you for a ride to show you what a great airplane it is........
>
> grumpy
> N184JM class of 68 and waiting on Leonardo de Loehle to finish the next
> masterpiece....
>
> do not archive
>
> In a message dated 1/22/2008 9:13:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> lewgall@charter.net
> writes:
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> Let me know if this inappropriate for this forum, but I thought I'd put
> out a feeler.
>
> I'm having such a blast helping build my friend's RV-10 that I've decided
> to start
> my own. I've found and purchased the tail/emp kit from a builder that
> decided
> not to finish it and I'm getting my own builder's number transferred from
> him. I drove 4 hrs. one way Sun. before X-mas to get it ... my wife is
> convinced
> I've totally lost it!
>
> I'm on a much more limited budget than my fellow builder and have lot's of
> patience,
> so I'm wondering if there are builders out there that started a SB wing
> or fuse kit, and would want to sell it to me so that they can get the QB
> kit.
> I'm in Greenville,SC and I can pick it up within the 4 hr. driving time
> radius
> -- maybe a little more if the price is right!
>
> I'll either end up with a new passion and learn to fly it -- or one heck
> of a yard
> ornament!
>
> Later - Lew
>
> --------
> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> RV-10 finishing kit has arrived!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=159902#159902
>
>
> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
>
>
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> p://forums.matronics.com
> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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>
> <html><body>
> <DIV>The Georgia Bulldogs were chasing them back home.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Gary</DIV>
> <DIV>40274</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
> #1010ff 2px
> solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Rick Sked
> <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
> <BR>
> <STYLE type=text/css>body { font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size:
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> #000000}</STYLE>
>
> <P>Next thing you know we will have these spray painted paw prints all
> over the
> forum :)</P>
> <P>How did you Clemson Tigers ever find your way to the game before
> stencils and
> spray paint!!</P>
> <P>Rick S.</P>
> <P>40185</P>
> <P>do not archive<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From:
> GenGrumpy@aol.com<BR>To:
> rv10-list@matronics.com<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:17:38 PM
> (GMT-0800)
> America/Los_Angeles<BR>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slow (Standard) build fuse
> and wing kits for sale?<BR><BR></P>
> <DIV id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:
> Arial"><FONT
> id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=3>
> <DIV>
> <DIV>Lew,</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Not sure if someone can help you find more of the kit.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>The RV 10 is a wonderful airplane, however you get to first
> flight......</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Take your time, do it your way, and have an expert look over your
> work.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>You'll love the end product.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>If you haven't flown in one, you need to.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Mine should be back in the air from the painter in a month or
> so.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>If you happen to be a CLEMSON TIGER, you might even entice me to come
> over
> and take you for a ride to show you what a great airplane it
> is........</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>grumpy</DIV>
> <DIV>N184JM class of 68 and waiting on Leonardo de Loehle to finish the
> next masterpiece....</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>do not archive</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>In a message dated 1/22/2008 9:13:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> lewgall@charter.net
> writes:</DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue
> 2px solid"><FONT
> style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000
> size=2>-->
> <lewgall@charter.net><BR><BR>Hey
> Guys,<BR><BR>Let me know if this inappropriate for this forum,
> but I thought I'd put out a feeler.<BR><BR>I'm having such a blast helping
> build
> my friend's RV-10 that I've decided to start my own. I've found and
> purchased the tail/emp kit from a builder that decided not to finish it
> and I'm
> getting my own builder's number transferred from him. I drove 4 hrs.
> one way Sun. before X-mas to get it ... my wife is convinced I've totally
> lost
> it! <BR><BR>I'm on a much more limited budget than my fellow builder
> and
> have lot's of patience, so I'm wondering if there are builders out there
> that
> started a SB wing or fuse kit, and would want to sell it to me so that
> they
> can get the QB kit. I'm in Greenville,SC and I
> can pi
> ck it up within the 4 hr. driving time radius -- maybe a little more if
> the price is right!<BR><BR>I'll either end up with a new passion and learn
> to fly it -- or one heck of a yard ornament!<BR><BR>Later -
> Lew<BR><BR>--------<BR>non-pilot<BR>crazy about building<BR>RV-10
> finishing kit has arrived!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Read this topic online
> here:<BR><BR>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=159902#159902<BR><BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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> href="http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489"
> target=_blank>Easy ways to stay in shape</A> in the new year.
> </FONT></DIV><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" color=#000000
> size=2>
>
> get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List</A>
> p://forums.matronics.com</A>
> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution</A>
>
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>
> Time: 06:06:10 AM PST US
> From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Insurance
>
>
> In a message dated 1/22/2008 4:26:35 PM Central Standard Time,
> deej@deej.net
> writes:
>
> Yes, this would appear to be true, and both may be able to log PIC
> time if it is agreed beforehand that the safety pilot will act as the
> legal PIC during the time that the pilot manipulating the controls is
> under the hood.
>
>
> Not playing FAA here but I believe your agreement to how to operate has
> nothing to do with PIC time, it's pretty well spelled out in the
> regulations...you must be at the controls to be PIC other than that you
> can log
> the time but
> not as PIC...I've been at a number of FAA seminars where this was
> presented
> and discussed. The only duel PIC time is for CFI/I, generally...
>
> P
>
>
> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
>
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> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:52:02 AM PST US
> From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Breather Fitting Change?
>
> Eric,
>
> I haven't heard of any recommended change. The breather tube that
> comes with the FWF kit fits the same size hose as fits on all breather
> fittings on the engines I have used. The only time I have seen a
> reduction needed is when an air-oil separator is being used.
>
> In answer to your question, I don't think so.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Eric Parlow wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Does Van's in the FFw kit recommend changing the breather hose
>> nipple fitting from the 3/4" fitting that was supplied with the
>> engine to a 1/2" fitting?
>>
>> ERic--
>> RV-10 40014
>> N104EP
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:00:52 AM PST US
> From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale?
>
> Next thing you know we are going to start talking politics... :-)
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:59 AM, speckter@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> The Georgia Bulldogs were chasing them back home.
>>
>> Gary
>> 40274
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
>> Next thing you know we will have these spray painted paw prints all
>> over the forum :)
>>
>> How did you Clemson Tigers ever find your way to the game before
>> stencils and spray paint!!
>>
>> Rick S.
>>
>> 40185
>>
>> do not archive
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:15:05 AM PST US
> Subject: re: RV10-List: Engine Breather Fitting Change?
> From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
>
> Nope, no change required. My only issue is that with the angled oil
> filter adapter
> on my TMX-IO-540 engine, the breather tube is too close to the oil filter.
> At best it will just touch the oil filter, at worst, it will make the oil
> filter
> difficult to remove. I'm in the process of re-positioning it. Aircraft
> spruce has the six foot length of 1" X 0.035" 5052 aluminum tube for $20.
> Now
> I need a 1" tube bender. Pre bent breather tube from Vans is $49.
>
> William
> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
> "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter
> and those
> who matter don't mind."
> -- Dr. Suess
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>
>> Does Van's in the FFw kit recommend changing the breather hose nipple
>> fitting
> from the 3/4" fitting that was supplied with the engine to a 1/2" fitting?
>
> ERic--
> RV-10 40014
> N104EP
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:17:32 AM PST US
> Subject: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
> From: "Jon Reining" <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
>
>
> I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB) and it
> looks like
> there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does anybody have any
> experience
> with either of them? Recommendations? Any other products? How useful
> have
> you found the Spot feature of sending a message to a group of people to
> check-in?
>
> Thanks
> Jon Reining
> 40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage gets finished)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160011#160011
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:39:58 AM PST US
> From: "Rob Hunter" <rwhunter@integra.net>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
> Just more food for thought.
> http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=41233
> <http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=41233&key=0> &key=0
>
>
> Rob Hunter
> 40432 fuselage
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
>
> Yes, thanks for the great story. I didn't want to start the rant on
> light IFR but said perfectly below per my experience.
>
> It occurs to me that the pitot icing might have been fortunate in CJ's
> case - good warning of airframe icing. I've only actually been aware of
> pitot icing once and the airframe was icing at the same rate (whew!!!).
> I'm thinking that anytime the pitot is subject to icing, the airframe is
> doing the same but I don't know if that's actually the case.
>
> Bill "piling on" Watson
>
> John Jessen wrote:
>
> <n212pj@gmail.com>
>
>
> CJ: good story to share, and good logic that a heated pitot is a cheap
>
> insurance (life) investment. If you plan to have an IFR panel, do it
> right.
>
> Backup instrumentation, navs, comms, batteries for critical flight
>
> instruments, electrical generation... Don't screw around with IFR.
> Don't
>
> ever consider IFR as light vs something else. Consider it IFR, period.
> End
>
> of rant.
>
>
> John Jessen
>
> 40328
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
> Johnston
>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:47 PM
>
>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
>
> --> <mailto:CJohnston@popsound.com> <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
>
> Just a point of interest that I'd add here.
>
>
> ***alert - dark and stormy night story below! If you're bored by dumb
> newbie
>
> flying stories, it would suffice to say that I'm pro pitot heat for an
>
> aircraft that is meant to fly cross country, or any IFR flights.
>
>
> Last year I was working on my instrument rating, and it just happened to
> be
>
> the rainiest couple months that SoCal had on record, which was just
> perfect
>
> for getting actual IMC time. During one of my more stressful flights,
> we
>
> were puttering around the Los Angeles area, doing approaches into a
> bunch of
>
> different airports. It was bumpy, it was night, and it was a handful.
> One
>
> of those flights that you just have to keep battling with your inner
> ear,
>
> because if you didn't have a good scan going, you'd believe that the
>
> airplane was doing backflips. The freezing level dropped a bit, and we
>
> started picking up rime ice. We started to head back to SMO, and with
> all
>
> that was going on, I forgot to turn on the pitot heat. It really should
>
> have been on from takeoff. Anyway, I was already seeing that we weren't
>
> getting the speed that we should have at a known power setting. It was
> just
>
> a couple knots slow, but since we were in the clouds, we knew it
> wouldn't be
>
> long before a bit slow turned into real slow. Now I'm staring at the
> ASI
>
> and comparing it to the ALT, the VSI, and the AI, keeping my scan going,
> and
>
> the ASI slows, slows, slows, and goes to zero. During the time that it
> was
>
> slowing, my brain had to work overtime comparing instruments to sort out
>
> what was happening. I had figured it out before it got to zero and
> flipped
>
> on the pitot heat. The instructor and I just sat there, waiting for it
> to
>
> come back alive. Which it did after what seemed like an eternity. All
> that
>
> partial panel stuff really works, but at the time I was very much in
>
> practice. Ultimately, we advised ATC of our situation, got lower (after
>
> what seemed like forever waiting for a Lear or Citation to get down
> ahead of
>
> us) and landed home safe. I obviously learned quite a bit from this
>
> experience, and it remains the absolute scariest experience that I've
> had in
>
> an airplane. I'd caution against the notion of light IFR, and I would
> never
>
> contemplate flying IFR without pitot heat. You definitely never mean to
>
> pick up ice, and the above was my only (to
>
> date) experience with it. knowing a bit more today than I did when this
>
> happened, I realize now that my personal minimums are quite a bit higher
>
> than my instructors were. I dunno. I guess that's a really long way of
>
> saying that I think pitot heat is cheap and worthwhile insurance.
>
>
> Just my experience, and just to be clear, I'm probably the lowest PIC
> time
>
> instrument rated pilot you'll find. I gots lots to learn.
>
>
> Cj
>
> #40410
>
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
> McMullen
>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:50 AM
>
>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
>
> <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com> <apilot2@gmail.com>
>
>
> No regulatory requirement for heated pitot. Depends on typical icing
> where
>
> you typically fly. I flew years with unheated pitot where I got rime
> icing.
>
> Never blocked pitot. I would expect it would be more essential where
> clear
>
> ice is more common. If you stay out of icing (good plan) heated pitot
> isn't
>
> needed at all, just depends on whether you feel the need for that extra
>
> insurance.
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2008 12:32 AM, AirMike <mailto:Mikeabel@pacbell.net>
> <Mikeabel@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
> <mailto:Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
>
>
> I am a high time VFR pilot. I am trying to get my plane set up for
>
>
> lite IFR.
>
>
> In other words - installing one Garmin SL30 with GS & Audio w/MB lites
>
> I have been advised by others in EAA and prior posts on this site that
>
>
> having a heated Pitot is a must.
>
>
> Is Gretz GA1000 the best choice. I am already on board with the
>
>
> Advanced Flight systems AF-3500 system with AOA
>
>
> --------
>
> OSH '08 or Bust
>
> Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/fiberglass stuff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=159714#159714
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:44:13 AM PST US
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
>
>
> You of course mean unofficial when you are talking about
> Spot, right? It's not the same or a direct substitute
> for the 406mhz stuff that the ACR's and others can do.
> It's a subscription based thing, that would be great for
> letting friends and family track you, but won't be the same
> as having a real PLB.
>
> For regular real PLB's, I got this ACR unit before my last
> trip. It's real nice and small, and it's officially
> registered and has the emergency contacts set up on the
> NOAA system. The price here is the best I could find,
> after hours and of searching:
> http://www.life-raft.com/dept.asp?d_id=9858&l1=9858
> You won't find it for less.
>
> PLB's are registered and there is no fee. The Spot
> unit is very cool, but over 5 years you'll spend more
> for the Spot than you will for a PLB. But, if you're
> into having your friends and family track you, it
> would be a cool thing. I'd probably do it, if I could
> pay $25/yr, but for the price it is, I can live with
> just having flightaware.com track my IFR flights.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Jon Reining wrote:
>> <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
>>
>> I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB) and
>> it looks like there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does
>> anybody have any experience with either of them? Recommendations?
>> Any other products? How useful have you found the Spot feature of
>> sending a message to a group of people to check-in?
>>
>> Thanks Jon Reining 40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage
>> gets finished)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160011#160011
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:37:44 PM PST US
> From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
> Rob a sad accident report...but they call the weather IFR...yet say the
> visibility was 5+ unlimited and ceiling 2,500' although they note
> sleet...seems
>
> something on weather is missing...sadly 3 fatals...
>
> P
>
>
> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:57:00 PM PST US
> From: "Rob Hunter" <rwhunter@integra.net>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
> This actually happened at altitude. The weather was at the accident
> site. They had ob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> GRANSCOTT@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
>
> Rob a sad accident report...but they call the weather IFR...yet say the
> visibility was 5+ unlimited and ceiling 2,500' although they note
> sleet...seems something on weather is missing...sadly 3 fatals...
>
> P
>
>
> _____
>
> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape
> <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489>
> in the new year.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:13:25 PM PST US
> From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Breather Fitting Change?
>
> Hit up your local electrician or a rental supply place and get a 1"
> conduit hickey. Should work just fine. But, be aware ..... I haven't
> done it!!!
> Linn
>
>
> William Curtis wrote:
>
>>
>>Nope, no change required. My only issue is that with the angled oil
>>filter adapter
> on my TMX-IO-540 engine, the breather tube is too close to the oil filter.
> At best it will just touch the oil filter, at worst, it will make the oil
> filter difficult to remove. I'm in the process of re-positioning it.
> Aircraft
> spruce has the six foot length of 1" X 0.035" 5052 aluminum tube for $20.
> Now
> I need a 1" tube bender. Pre bent breather tube from Vans is $49.
>>
>>William
>>http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>>"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter
>>and
> those who matter don't mind."
>>-- Dr. Suess
>>
>>-------- Original Message --------
>>
>>
>>
>>>Does Van's in the FFw kit recommend changing the breather hose nipple
>>>fitting
> from the 3/4" fitting that was supplied with the engine to a 1/2" fitting?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ERic--
>> RV-10 40014
>> N104EP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:14:18 PM PST US
> From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Breather Fitting Change?
>
> William,
>
> I have used the TMXIO-540 twice and have not had a problem with the
> angle adapter and the breather. Are you sure you have the breather in
> the right place? I don't want to insult your intelligence, so I could
> be missing something obvious, but I have never had an issue with
> that. Do you have a picture?
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:08 PM, linn Walters wrote:
>
>> Hit up your local electrician or a rental supply place and get a 1"
>> conduit hickey. Should work just fine. But, be aware ..... I
>> haven't done it!!!
>> Linn
>>
>>
>> William Curtis wrote:
>>> <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>>>
>>> Nope, no change required. My only issue is that with the angled
>>> oil filter adapter on my TMX-IO-540 engine, the breather tube is
>>> too close to the oil filter. At best it will just touch the oil
>>> filter, at worst, it will make the oil filter difficult to remove.
>>> I'm in the process of re-positioning it. Aircraft spruce has the
>>> six foot length of 1" X 0.035" 5052 aluminum tube for $20. Now I
>>> need a 1" tube bender. Pre bent breather tube from Vans is $49.
>>>
>>> William
>>> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>>> "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't
>>> matter and those who matter don't mind."
>>> -- Dr. Suess
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>
>>>
>>>> Does Van's in the FFw kit recommend changing the breather hose
>>>> nipple fitting from the 3/4" fitting that was supplied with the
>>>> engine to a 1/2" fitting?
>>>>
>>>
>>> ERic--
>>> RV-10 40014
>>> N104EP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:27:12 PM PST US
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Slow (Standard) build fuse and wing kits for sale?
> From: "Jon Reining" <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
>
>
> Lew - You're not alone. I started to build before I learned to fly.
> Careful,
> its very addicting. Of course, the problem now is, go out and have fun
> flying
> or stay home and build - tough decision but I'm up to the challenge. :)
>
> Jon Reining - PPSEL (I'm checking the mailbox daily for the permanent card
> to arrive
> in the mail - and looking forward to starting instrument training sometime
> soon)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160054#160054
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:57:32 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Insurance
> From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
>
>
> GRANSCOTT@aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 1/22/2008 4:26:35 PM Central Standard Time,
>> deej@deej.net writes:
>>
>> Yes, this would appear to be true, and both may be able to log PIC
>> time if it is agreed beforehand that the safety pilot will act as the
>> legal PIC during the time that the pilot manipulating the controls is
>> under the hood.
>>
>> Not playing FAA here but I believe your agreement to how to operate
>> has nothing to do with PIC time, it's pretty well spelled out in the
>> regulations...you must be at the controls to be PIC other than that
>> you can log the time but not as PIC...I've been at a number of FAA
>> seminars where this was presented and discussed. The only duel PIC
>> time is for CFI/I, generally...
>>
>> P
>
> The info was taken from an FAQ published by the FAA, which does show
> that the regulations allow the safety pilot to log PIC time.
> You can find a subset of it on Rod Machado's website here:
> <http://www.rodmachado.com/Articles/Logging_Flight_Time2.htm>
>
> along with a link to the original FAA information.
>
> fyi
>
> -Dj
>
> --
> Dj Merrill
> Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118
> http://deej.net/sportsman/
>
> "Many things that are unexplainable happen during the construction of an
> airplane." --Dave Prizio, 30 Aug 2005
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 15
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:08:15 PM PST US
> Subject: RV10-List: Trimming the cowling
> From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>
>
> Guys,
>
> I am hesitating to trim the cowling due to the fact that the straight edge
> method
> doesn't give me the possibility to make a line along the side.
> How did you do it?
>
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160067#160067
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 16
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:37:48 PM PST US
> From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
>
>
> Check Fastfind GPS plus. about $600.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Reining
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:11 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
>
> --> <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
>
> I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB) and it
> looks like there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does anybody have
> any
> experience with either of them? Recommendations? Any other products?
> How
> useful have you found the Spot feature of sending a message to a group of
> people to check-in?
>
> Thanks
> Jon Reining
> 40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage gets finished)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160011#160011
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 17
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:44:12 PM PST US
> From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
> The reason is that all three pitot tubes iced; trapping low altitude air
> pressure inside. due to the rapid climb the decreasing outside static
> pressure made the airspeed seem to continue to rise. The crew marveled at
> the airspeed and kept pitching up to slow the aircraft which just made the
> airspeed indication go higher. They ignored the attitude indicator and the
> aircraft finally entered a stall/spin at about 30+ degrees nose up. Took
> about a minute to hit the ground. IIRC they were on their way to pick up
> the
> Buffalo football team.
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> GRANSCOTT@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
>
> Rob a sad accident report...but they call the weather IFR...yet say the
> visibility was 5+ unlimited and ceiling 2,500' although they note
> sleet...seems something on weather is missing...sadly 3 fatals...
>
> P
>
>
> _____
>
> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape
> <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489>
> in
> the new year.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 18
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:51:10 PM PST US
> From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trimming the cowling
>
>
> You need the flexible steel scale which bends nicely. Another technique is
> to mark the distances on the fuselage about every three inches and connect
> the dots. Then make an initial cut about .1" short of the aft end of the
> starting cowl so that additional trimming can take place with files and
> sanding blocks. IIRC we started with the bottom and matched the top to it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Wellenzohn
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:03 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Trimming the cowling
>
> --> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>
> Guys,
>
> I am hesitating to trim the cowling due to the fact that the straight edge
> method doesn't give me the possibility to make a line along the side.
> How did you do it?
>
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160067#160067
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 19
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:09:38 PM PST US
> From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
> In case you are wondering it can also happen in the descent. Iced in
> cruise
> and starting a descent the airspeed can indicate lower (or decreasing)
> than
> actual due to trapped pitot pressure at altitude. unless you pay attention
> to the attitude indicator you may be adding power and making a higher than
> normal approach speed even thought the airspeed indication shows normal
> approach speed. Never fixate on a single instrument , but consider them in
> total. Also there is a difference between IFR and IMC. all airline flights
> are required to be IFR but most have little if any IMC.
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:39 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
>
> The reason is that all three pitot tubes iced; trapping low altitude air
> pressure inside. due to the rapid climb the decreasing outside static
> pressure made the airspeed seem to continue to rise. The crew marveled at
> the airspeed and kept pitching up to slow the aircraft which just made the
> airspeed indication go higher. They ignored the attitude indicator and the
> aircraft finally entered a stall/spin at about 30+ degrees nose up. Took
> about a minute to hit the ground. IIRC they were on their way to pick up
> the
> Buffalo football team.
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> GRANSCOTT@aol.com
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> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
>
> Rob a sad accident report...but they call the weather IFR...yet say the
> visibility was 5+ unlimited and ceiling 2,500' although they note
> sleet...seems something on weather is missing...sadly 3 fatals...
>
> P
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>
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> ________________________________ Message 20
> ____________________________________
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>
> Time: 05:36:56 PM PST US
> From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
>
>
> The thing with the SPOT service is what happens if you let your
> subscription expire
> and you trigger the "911" button. Seems to me they would be opening
> themselves
> up for some serious liability if they didn't route it to SAR resources.
> I believe Onstar will respond to an emergency even if you don't subscribe
> to
> the service for that exact reason. Same thing with cell phones, 911 works
> regardless
> of any subscription or lack thereof. Anyone know if this is the case
> with SPOT? If it is it would be one cheap PLB.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:38 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
>
>
> You of course mean unofficial when you are talking about
> Spot, right? It's not the same or a direct substitute
> for the 406mhz stuff that the ACR's and others can do.
> It's a subscription based thing, that would be great for
> letting friends and family track you, but won't be the same
> as having a real PLB.
>
> For regular real PLB's, I got this ACR unit before my last
> trip. It's real nice and small, and it's officially
> registered and has the emergency contacts set up on the
> NOAA system. The price here is the best I could find,
> after hours and of searching:
> http://www.life-raft.com/dept.asp?d_id=9858&l1=9858
> You won't find it for less.
>
> PLB's are registered and there is no fee. The Spot
> unit is very cool, but over 5 years you'll spend more
> for the Spot than you will for a PLB. But, if you're
> into having your friends and family track you, it
> would be a cool thing. I'd probably do it, if I could
> pay $25/yr, but for the price it is, I can live with
> just having flightaware.com track my IFR flights.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Jon Reining wrote:
>> <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
>>
>> I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB) and
>> it looks like there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does
>> anybody have any experience with either of them? Recommendations?
>> Any other products? How useful have you found the Spot feature of
>> sending a message to a group of people to check-in?
>>
>> Thanks Jon Reining 40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage
>> gets finished)
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160011#160011
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 21
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:27:10 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Insurance
> From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
>
>
> There is also more information available on the AOPA web site here:
> <http://www.aopa.org/members/files/topics/pic.html?>
>
> Here are some snippets cut from that page:
>
> "One topic that invariably pops up whenever there is a gathering of
> pilots is the logging of pilot-in-command (PIC) time. The much-coveted
> PIC time has been a controversial subject and can be very confusing.
> After reading this, you may be amazed to find that there are many
> different ways to log PIC!"
>
> "Before we get started, we must define /pilot in command./ The PIC is,
> by Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs), responsible for the safe
> operation of the flight (FAR 1.1, 91.3). At any given time, there can
> only be one acting PIC on a flight, no matter how many pilots are on
> board the aircraft. To legally act as PIC, a private, commercial, and
> airline transport pilot must have a current medical certificate and have
> all required endorsements, ratings, and recency of experience for the
> type of aircraft being flown and the flight conditions under which the
> flight is conducted (FAR 61.3, 61.31, 61.56, 61.57). Sport pilots can
> act as PIC with a valid and current driver's license in lieu of the FAA
> medical (FAR 61.23). Before a flight is initiated, an agreement should
> be made to determine who is to be acting as PIC."
>
> "A pilot may log PIC time when he/she is the sole occupant of the
> aircraft; is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for
> which the pilot is rated or has privileges; or is acting as PIC where
> more than one pilot is required (FAR 1.1, 61.51 [e])."
>
> "The FARs provide several situations (see scenarios listed below) where
> two or more pilots may log PIC time, even though there can only be one
> pilot acting as PIC."
>
> "When practicing flying in simulated instrument conditions with a safety
> pilot, both the pilot flying the aircraft by reference to instruments
> and the safety pilot may log PIC time if the safety pilot is acting as
> PIC. As long as the pilot flying the aircraft is rated for the aircraft
> being flown, he/she may log this time as PIC because he/she is sole
> manipulator of the controls (FAR 61.51). Because the pilot flying will
> be wearing a view-limiting device, a safety pilot will be a required
> crewmember on board (FAR 91.109). The safety pilot may log as PIC any
> flight time for which he/she is acting PIC in an operation requiring
> more than one pilot crewmember (FAR 61.51)."
>
> "To act as a safety pilot, a current medical certificate is required
> because a safety pilot will be acting as a required pilot crewmember,
> which requires a current medical certificate (FAR 61.3)."
>
> fyi
>
> -Dj
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 22
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:02:19 PM PST US
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Trimming the cowling
> From: "jim berry" <jimberry@qwest.net>
>
>
> I was able to trim mine to a very close fit with 2 layers of masking tape.
> Two
> inch wide tape works well for the cowl. Position the first layer of tape
> so that
> the forward edge matches the forward edge of your sheet metal. Position
> your
> upper or lower cowl per Van's instructions. Now position a second layer of
> tape
> the same width as the first so that the aft edge matches the aft edge of
> the
> first layer of tape. The forward edge of the second layer is your cut
> line.
>
> Jim Berry
> 40482
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160132#160132
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 23
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:53:11 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Breather Fitting Change?
> From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
> Yeah, well I thought about that but threre is only one way to mount it.
> Pi
> cture attached.=0A=0AWilliam=0Ahttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/=0A
> =0A-------- Original Message --------=0A> =0A> William,=0A> =0A
>> I have used the TMXIO-540 twice and have not had a problem with the
> =0A> angle adapter and the breather. Are you sure you have the breather
> in
> =0A> the right place? I don't want to insult your intelligence, so I
> could =0A> be missing something obvious, but I have never had an issue
> with =0A> that. Do you have a picture?=0A> =0A> do not archive
> =0A> =0A> Jesse Saint=0A> Saint Aviation, Inc.=0A> jesse@sainta
> viation.com=0A> Cell: 352-427-0285=0A> Fax: 815-377-3694=0A>
> =0A> On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:08 PM, linn Walters wrote:=0A> =0A> > Hit
> up your local electrician or a rental supply place and get a 1" =0A> >
> conduit hickey. Should work just fine. But, be aware ..... I =0A> > h
> aven't done it!!!=0A> > Linn=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > William Curtis w
>>> <wcurtis@nerv10.com>=0A> >>=0A> >> Nope, no change required. My o
> nly issue is that with the angled =0A> >> oil filter adapter on my TMX-
> IO-540 engine, the breather tube is =0A> >> too close to the oil filter
> . At best it will just touch the oil =0A> >> filter, at worst, it will
> make the oil filter difficult to remove. =0A> >> I'm in the process o
> f re-positioning it. Aircraft spruce has the =0A> >> six foot length o
> f 1" X 0.035" 5052 aluminum tube for $20. Now I =0A> >> need a 1" tube
> bender. Pre bent breather tube from Vans is $49.=0A> >>=0A> >> Will
> iam=0A> >> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/=0A> >> "Be who you are and say
> what you feel because those who mind don't =0A> >> matter and those who
> matter don't mind."=0A> >> -- Dr. Suess =0A> >>=0A> >> -------- O
> riginal Message --------=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>> Does Van's in the F
> Fw kit recommend changing the breather hose =0A> >>> nipple fitting fro
> m the 3/4" fitting that was supplied with the =0A> >>> engine to a 1/2"
> fitting?=0A> >>>=0A> >>=0A> >> ERic--=0A> >> RV-10 40014
> =0A> >> N104EP=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>
> =0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > =0A
>
> ________________________________ Message 24
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:57:14 PM PST US
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
>
>
> I just read an article on it in a tech rag today that got me
> thinking too. They said the service is $100/yr for the one
> where you push a button to send a message or alert. But,
> another $50/yr for the one that gives live intermittent tracking.
> That's getting to be some serious subscription that could be
> better spent on WX or other services...even charts. But then
> I thought too about the chain of the alert. It said they'd
> route it to the nearest 911 type emergency facility. I pictured
> what would happen.
>
> Sam -"Jim, we just got an alert from the GlobalStar system. It says
> that someone is calling 911, and the coordinates are 46.180N
> 90.933W."
>
> Jim- "Hmmm, I wonder what that could be. We're getting more and
> more of these 911 alerts with no good info on exactly what
> we're being alerted on. Whaddya think, Sam, you wanna drive on
> out there and see what's going on? It looks like on the map
> this thing is up in the Chequamegon Forest somewhere."
>
>
> My thought is that, while a PLB gives the authorities a definite,
> (you're legally responsible) registered name, and definite contact
> list of emergency contacts, and additional registration info,
> I don't know how some of the unofficial types of alerting will be
> received by the individual departments. Especially as this
> becomes more commonplace.
>
> This isn't meant to disparage the product. I think it's really
> cool, actually, and I can see buying one, if that subscription
> price were dirt cheap, because it would be generally cool to
> have. But, I just think that for actual emergency response, to
> actually save your butt, you might be better off going with
> one of the actual 406mhz type systems that are supported
> well for marine, aviation, and other uses. At $550 a pop for
> the top of the line portable PLB, with integral GPS, and
> a 5 year battery, it seems that you could have a great PLB
> system that over 10+ years would have a pretty good cost
> per year, and be a real PLB.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>>
>> The thing with the SPOT service is what happens if you let your
>> subscription expire and you trigger the "911" button. Seems to me
>> they would be opening themselves up for some serious liability if
>> they didn't route it to SAR resources. I believe Onstar will respond
>> to an emergency even if you don't subscribe to the service for that
>> exact reason. Same thing with cell phones, 911 works regardless of
>> any subscription or lack thereof. Anyone know if this is the case
>> with SPOT? If it is it would be one cheap PLB.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:38 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spot vs. ACR Personal Locator Beacon
>>
>>
>> You of course mean unofficial when you are talking about Spot, right?
>> It's not the same or a direct substitute for the 406mhz stuff that
>> the ACR's and others can do. It's a subscription based thing, that
>> would be great for letting friends and family track you, but won't be
>> the same as having a real PLB.
>>
>> For regular real PLB's, I got this ACR unit before my last trip. It's
>> real nice and small, and it's officially registered and has the
>> emergency contacts set up on the NOAA system. The price here is the
>> best I could find, after hours and of searching:
>> http://www.life-raft.com/dept.asp?d_id=9858&l1=9858 You won't find it
>> for less.
>>
>> PLB's are registered and there is no fee. The Spot unit is very
>> cool, but over 5 years you'll spend more for the Spot than you will
>> for a PLB. But, if you're into having your friends and family track
>> you, it would be a cool thing. I'd probably do it, if I could pay
>> $25/yr, but for the price it is, I can live with just having
>> flightaware.com track my IFR flights.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>
>>
>> Jon Reining wrote:
>>> <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
>>>
>>> I've been thinking about getting a personal locator beacon (PLB)
>>> and it looks like there are two on the market, Spot and ACR. Does
>>> anybody have any experience with either of them? Recommendations?
>>> Any other products? How useful have you found the Spot feature of
>>> sending a message to a group of people to check-in?
>>>
>>> Thanks Jon Reining 40514 - finishing wings (as soon as the garage
>>> gets finished)
>>>
>>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 25
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:14:03 PM PST US
> From: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming the cowling
>
>
> Michael;
>
> I did the first cut on the side of the cowl tonight. I used a laser
> level and picked three points, one at the inside of the inlet, one at
> the outside and one at the aft edge, then drew the line on the cowl.
> I'll use that as my reference line. Next, will trim the bottom 1/2 up
> to that line. Will see how well that works tomorrow night.
>
> Question to those who used skybolt fasteners for the sides. How thick
> of an aluminium strip did you use for the side fasteners? 0.050 as per
> the top strip?
>
>
> Dr Fred.
>
>
> Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> I am hesitating to trim the cowling due to the fact that the straight
>> edge method
> doesn't give me the possibility to make a line along the side.
>> How did you do it?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> --------
>> RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
>> #511
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160067#160067
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 26
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:17:03 PM PST US
> From: kilopapa@antelecom.net
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Heated Pitot
>
>
> Good story!
>
> Kevin
> 40494
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
> From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>>
>>Just a point of interest that I'd add here.
>>
>>***alert - dark and stormy night story below! If you're
>>bored by dumb newbie flying stories, it would suffice to
>>say that I'm pro pitot heat for an aircraft that is meant
>>to fly cross country, or any IFR flights.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 27
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:27:36 PM PST US
> From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Trimming the cowling
>
>
> Jim, I am confused. It sounds like the second layer of tape is
> exactly on top of the first if the aft edge of the second layer
> matches the aft edge of the first layer. I must be missing something
> here. (would not be the first time!) Is the first layer of tape on
> the sheet metal? The second layer on the cowl? Now I am confusing
> myself even more! ^_^
>
> David Maib
> 40559
>
> On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:57 PM, jim berry wrote:
>
>
> I was able to trim mine to a very close fit with 2 layers of masking
> tape. Two inch wide tape works well for the cowl. Position the first
> layer of tape so that the forward edge matches the forward edge of
> your sheet metal. Position your upper or lower cowl per Van's
> instructions. Now position a second layer of tape the same width as
> the first so that the aft edge matches the aft edge of the first
> layer of tape. The forward edge of the second layer is your cut line.
>
> Jim Berry
> 40482
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160132#160132
>
>
>
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Michael,
where did you get this? I was told by an upholster at OSH that microfiber
would not pass the FAA fire spec and if treated to meet the spec it did not
feel very comfortable to the touch anymore or something like that. I have
the stuff in my Mazda and love it. I was all ready to use it until I got the
info above.
Thanks
Chris Lucas
#40072
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:43 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Upholstery
> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>
> I am using a microfiber cloth, it is fire resistant and looks and feels
> like Alcantara but is 10 times more resistant against rubbing. Spots or
> dirt won't soak in but you won't sweat either. It a special produced cloth
> for the car industry and for theaters (fire resistant).
> It's called Comfort. Attached you'll find some pictures during the
> upholstery process.
> Only issue is that you have to order at least 10 meters (with is 1.4
> meters).
>
> Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (fuselage)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=159717#159717
>
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Chris,
this material is used in cars so it must pass a flame resistant test. I don't know
if this would please FAA requirements as well. As far as I know it is a company
in Germany/Munich which produces it. It is UV resistant so it will keep
its color . I have something similar in my Honda and thats why I went for it.
The name of the microfiber is Comfort, I don't know the producer right now but
I'll try to find out the contact. I had to buy it via my upholsterer since it
is not sold to private persons directly.
Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
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