---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/03/08: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:47 AM - fuel tank flush (David McNeill) 2. 06:39 AM - Re: Any Hawaii Builders?? (marcausman) 3. 06:57 AM - Tow Bar (Lew Gallagher) 4. 07:03 AM - Re: fuel tank flush (Carl Froehlich) 5. 07:41 AM - Re: Alternator Circuit Breaker (orchidman) 6. 07:58 AM - Re: Minimum Instruments ( was TruTrak ADI) (AirMike) 7. 08:08 AM - Re: Tow Bar (Marcus Cooper) 8. 11:08 AM - Re: Tow Bar (Lew Gallagher) 9. 11:44 AM - Re: fuel tank flush (Kelly McMullen) 10. 12:50 PM - Re: Re: Trimming the cowling (Rick Sked) 11. 01:39 PM - Re: Re: Tow Bar (Rick Sked) 12. 03:14 PM - Slick Mags (McGANN, Ron) 13. 05:19 PM - Old HID, New HID (tom.on.the.road@juno.com) 14. 07:55 PM - Re: Old HID, New HID (Pascal) 15. 08:28 PM - Re: Old HID, New HID (tom.on.the.road@juno.com) 16. 08:58 PM - Re: Old HID, New HID (Pascal) 17. 09:43 PM - Re: Slick Mags (John W. Cox) 18. 11:25 PM - Re: Trimming the cowling (Michael Wellenzohn) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:25 AM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: fuel tank flush I have QB wings and am ready to flush the tanks and the remaider of the fuel system to remove any trash left behind by the builders. anyone else flush their wings before putting in the fuel sumps and running the engine? If so with what? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:18 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Any Hawaii Builders?? From: "marcausman" Pete, I was just out there and visited a guy on Oahu building a -7A and another who is flying a -6. Don't know of any -10s though. E-mail me at marc 'at' verticalpower.com if you want me to send you their info. They're always glad to talk with fellow RVers. -------- Marc Ausman http://www.verticalpower.com RV-7 IO-390 Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162170#162170 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:19 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Tow Bar From: "Lew Gallagher" Here's another gizmo I cooked up yesterday. It works great so far -- no engine, wings, tail feathers, so it's not a legitimate test to pass yet. But for $2 worth of metal at the scrap yard it seems pretty substantial. I haven't seen anything like this, but it makes sense to me to make one ear static, the other slides in, add tension to spring the yoke with your thumb while sliding in the lynch pin (Home Depot). You probably wouldn't want to try to take it with you, but it should do the job in the hangar. Today I'll add paint. By the way, any comments on why hydraulic fluid is better than brake fluid? Surfing, it seems to be a flammable issue? Working on wheel pants today. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building Landing gear installed, we're mobile! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162176#162176 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tow1_medium_207.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tow2_medium_143.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:56 AM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV10-List: fuel tank flush One way is to install a temporary clear auto type fuel filter in a line going from the firewall fuel fitting to gas cans, or via a temporary hose to the other gas tank. If you are using an in line fuel filter, like the Airflow Performance one Van's sells, this should be removed and replaced with a straight piece of tubing so that you don't trap the trash in it. You want all the trash to end up in temporary filter. Fill one tank, sump the tank until you get a clear sample, and then use the boost pump to pump the fuel into gas cans or the other tank via the auto filter. This way you have clean gas to use over and over until you are satisfied the trash is gone. If you see any particles while sumping the tanks you are not yet done. You may want to agitate the gas in the tank by rocking the wing to help dislodge particles and get them to the bottom of the tank. This is also the time to do a first check to make sure you have minimum fuel flow rate (final check is after you reinstall the permanent inline filter) and calibrate the fuel senders if you are using an electronic engine indication system. Carl Froehlich RV-8A (400 hrs) RV-10 (wings) _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:41 AM Subject: RV10-List: fuel tank flush I have QB wings and am ready to flush the tanks and the remaider of the fuel system to remove any trash left behind by the builders. anyone else flush their wings before putting in the fuel sumps and running the engine? If so with what? ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:21 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Alternator Circuit Breaker From: "orchidman" jayb wrote: > MIDI fuses available from Mouser.com > > 576-04980900Z Fuse Holder > 576-0498080.M > 80A Fuse > Another good source. I missed them since they are not in the current catalog. That is a place to get lost in for sure. [Shocked] -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Fuselage SB (N410GB reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162188#162188 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:40 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Minimum Instruments ( was TruTrak ADI) From: "AirMike" I voted to get an AFS3500 system but I am backing it up with: 1. Vertical card compass mounted on cabin to support bracket 2. B/U Steam air speed 3. B/U Steam altimeter 4. B/U Tru-Trak ADI I would have preferred the Mid-continent - but cannot justify the cost. Tru-Trak seems to have about 90% of the B/U market. It is almost rare to see a panel being built without it. -------- OSH '08 or Bust Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/fiberglass stuff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162193#162193 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:24 AM PST US From: "Marcus Cooper" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tow Bar Absolutely brilliant in it's simplicity. The bar most of us are using has tension closing the bar and it takes a bit of caution when closing in on the bolts not to accidentally hit the wheel pant and damage the paint. Your idea takes the threat out completely. As you said maybe not so good to travel with as it looks a bit heavy with the materials you chose, but thanks for sharing the great idea. Marcus 40286 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: RV10-List: Tow Bar Here's another gizmo I cooked up yesterday. It works great so far -- no engine, wings, tail feathers, so it's not a legitimate test to pass yet. But for $2 worth of metal at the scrap yard it seems pretty substantial. I haven't seen anything like this, but it makes sense to me to make one ear static, the other slides in, add tension to spring the yoke with your thumb while sliding in the lynch pin (Home Depot). You probably wouldn't want to try to take it with you, but it should do the job in the hangar. Today I'll add paint. By the way, any comments on why hydraulic fluid is better than brake fluid? Surfing, it seems to be a flammable issue? Working on wheel pants today. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building Landing gear installed, we're mobile! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162176#162176 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tow1_medium_207.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tow2_medium_143.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:08:55 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Tow Bar From: "Lew Gallagher" Thanks, Marcus! OK, just for the fun of it, I added a thumb rest. The paint is just rattle can Rustoleum I was using up. I don't know if it shows in the picture very well, but the inner shaft (1/2 ID, 1/8 wall steel tube) was just a little too loose in the sleeve for my liking, so I flatted one side to make it more like a "D"(keeping the axel end round) , and welded a bit of a matching flat on the female sleeve. That not only snugged it up, but keeps the hole oriented for easy alignment with the pin. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building Landing gear installed, we're mobile! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162213#162213 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tow4_medium_628.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tow3_medium_678.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:31 AM PST US From: "Kelly McMullen" Subject: Re: RV10-List: fuel tank flush Recommend you use a fluid less volatile than gasoline for the process...like water or stoddard solvent. On Feb 3, 2008 7:57 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > One way is to install a temporary clear auto type fuel filter in a line > going from the firewall fuel fitting to gas cans, or via a temporary hose to > the other gas tank. If you are using an in line fuel filter, like the > Airflow Performance one Van's sells, this should be removed and replaced > with a straight piece of tubing so that you don't trap the trash in it. You > want all the trash to end up in temporary filter. > > > Fill one tank, sump the tank until you get a clear sample, and then use > the boost pump to pump the fuel into gas cans or the other tank via the auto > filter. This way you have clean gas to use over and over until you are > satisfied the trash is gone. If you see any particles while sumping the > tanks you are not yet done. You may want to agitate the gas in the tank by > rocking the wing to help dislodge particles and get them to the bottom of > the tank. > > > This is also the time to do a first check to make sure you have minimum > fuel flow rate (final check is after you reinstall the permanent inline > filter) and calibrate the fuel senders if you are using an electronic engine > indication system. > > > Carl Froehlich > > RV-8A (400 hrs) > > RV-10 (wings) > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David McNeill > *Sent:* Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:41 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: fuel tank flush > > > I have QB wings and am ready to flush the tanks and the remaider of the > fuel system to remove any trash left behind by the builders. anyone else > flush their wings before putting in the fuel sumps and running the engine? > If so with what? > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:50:39 PM PST US From: Rick Sked Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Trimming the cowling I cut the top cowl in today...Guys and Gals I gotta tell you the masking tape to mark the firewall cut is the BOMB!!!! Perfect fit with only a few passes with the sanding block needed. The only thing I did different was to use the tape as a guide to apply a fine pen line that I cut just shy of then hand sanded to that line. I was worried the tape would gum up the cut off wheel. Dremel has a new line of cut off wheels added to their line of products made just for plastic, only metal was previously available. I use two wheels so far and that inclusdes the slot in the bottom cowl, my slot is much long due to the three blade prop...highly recommended these nifty cut off wheels. Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim berry" Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:42:35 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: Re: Trimming the cowling Rick, Like Michael I found it necessary to trim the inner and outer walls of the air inlet to get the upper an lower portions to come together. I also trimmed about 2" along the side of the upper cowl. Once you have the upper and lower cowl in position(let the sides of the lower cowl overlap the outside of the upper cowl) you can decide where you want the side seams to be. Lay out your chosen line on the upper cowl, cut and sand to a straight edge. Then you can use the masking tape trick to transfer that line to the lower cowl. I failed to mention in an earlier post that I also used the masking tape routine to fit my doors to the cabin top. It is much easier than trimming a little at a time until it comes together. Don't worry if you take off a little too much at some point. It is easy to build up an edge with a little flox if needed. Also I have seen several 10's where the rivets that hold the piano hinge to the cowling(and/or the paint) have started to crack out. I dealt with that by putting a 2 bid tape over the rivet lines. Jim Berry 40482 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=161697#161697 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:39:27 PM PST US From: Rick Sked Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Tow Bar Sorry Lew.....I just can't bring myself to make a rebar tow bar....besides...I already bought a Bogart model...and hey!!! I didn't need that $80 anyhow. :) Rick S. 40185 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Gallagher" Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2008 11:03:02 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: Re: Tow Bar Thanks, Marcus! OK, just for the fun of it, I added a thumb rest. The paint is just rattle can Rustoleum I was using up. I don't know if it shows in the picture very well, but the inner shaft (1/2 ID, 1/8 wall steel tube) was just a little too loose in the sleeve for my liking, so I flatted one side to make it more like a "D"(keeping the axel end round) , and welded a bit of a matching flat on the female sleeve. That not only snugged it up, but keeps the hole oriented for easy alignment with the pin. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building Landing gear installed, we're mobile! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162213#162213 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tow4_medium_628.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tow3_medium_678.jpg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:41 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Slick Mags From: "McGANN, Ron" Anybody have any technical data for the Slick mags included with 540 supplied by Vans? I am installing a Slick Start and the lack of data on the mags is a PITA. TIA Ron 187 "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer." ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:19:41 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Old HID, New HID From: tom.on.the.road@juno.com Big difference: better case, better airflow, easy to install. www.dirtlights.com . Tom 970-420-1798 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:07 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Old HID, New HID Tom; Which one? When you have a chance, please post pictures of the light(s) in the cowling. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: RV10-List: Old HID, New HID > > Big difference: better case, better airflow, easy to install. > www.dirtlights.com . > > > Tom > 970-420-1798 > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Old HID, New HID From: tom.on.the.road@juno.com Pascal, I tried to post the photos, but the list wouldn't show them, so I'll send them to your email. Tom ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:58:10 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Old HID, New HID received and appreciated! Thanks! Pascal ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Old HID, New HID > > Pascal, > > I tried to post the photos, but the list wouldn't show them, so I'll send > them to your email. > > Tom > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:38 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Slick Mags From: "John W. Cox" Which model do you want information on? John Cox 600 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 3:10 PM Subject: RV10-List: Slick Mags Anybody have any technical data for the Slick mags included with 540 supplied by Vans? I am installing a Slick Start and the lack of data on the mags is a PITA. TIA Ron 187 "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer." ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:06 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Trimming the cowling From: "Michael Wellenzohn" Rick, how long is the cut for the slot that you did. I also have a three blade prop and I know I need to cut the slot longer. It works right now because the front gear wheel sits on a box. 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