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1. 03:54 AM - FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale (Bob Leffler)
2. 06:08 AM - Re: Flymire heated pitot (johngoodman)
3. 06:22 AM - Dimmers (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
4. 06:42 AM - Re: Parking Brake Question (Deems Davis)
5. 06:47 AM - Re: V Speeds (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
6. 06:50 AM - Re: FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale (William Britton)
7. 07:14 AM - Re: FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale (John Jessen)
8. 07:25 AM - Re: FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale (Bob Leffler)
9. 09:05 AM - Re: Aircrafter's Seminar Pictures (nick@nleonard.com)
10. 09:50 AM - Re: V Speeds (bcondrey)
11. 09:55 AM - Re: V Speeds (gary)
12. 10:19 AM - Re: Torque Wrenches (Michael Wellenzohn)
13. 04:15 PM - Re: Re: V Speeds (Tim Olson)
14. 04:34 PM - Re: Re: V Speeds (Chris and Susie McGough)
15. 06:14 PM - Re: Re: V Speeds (Tim Olson)
16. 08:01 PM - alternate elevator trim settings or twisted tail (Bill DeRouchey)
17. 08:03 PM - Re: Re: V Speeds (Dave Leikam)
18. 09:05 PM - Re: Re: V Speeds (bob.kaufmann)
19. 11:19 PM - Re: Peel ply left on the cabin top NOT - fitting the cabin top (Patrick ONeill)
20. 11:36 PM - Re: Re: V Speeds (Patrick ONeill)
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Subject: | FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale |
Contact Rick Gray if you have any interest.
From: OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:37 PM
Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale
Hi Gang,
Wow....Danno' had a LOT OF STUFF!! As you know Dan bought nothing
but the best...along with all the 'bells and whistles'.
I picked up all of his airplane stuff on Thursday (13hrs)....got
it 'semi' organized on Friday (13hrs)....and it was picked up on
Saturday (another long day :^)). Jimmy B. who I took for a ride and
many of you met a couple months ago (and, who ordered the entire RV7
QB from Van) is the proud new owner of Dan's very lightly used drill
press, DRDT dimpler, brand new C' frame dimpler, big time fancy
smancy Daniels Mil Spec Crimper, pneumatic squeezer(s), band saw, 4"
belt sander....etc etc etc etc etc etc...you get the message. I'm
really glad it all went to one place....and especially to Jim (I
like to call him 'Jimmy' :^). I figure I'll get to 'use' these tools
whenever I'm over at Jim's place helping him pound rivets so I
couldn't be happier!!
Oh yea...I bought a few things for myself....I wanted something that
would remind me of Dan everytime I used it!
OK...that said...there are a few items left over....I'll be posting
them on Doug's site tomorrow or the next day but I said I'd mention
them here 1st.....so I am :^). Dan loved this group and I hope it
goes to folks from the group....if not...'it is what it is'.
-Brand New in the box never used Lightspeed Thirty Three 'G'
headsets with the Lemo Power plugs....2 sets...Dan had bought these
for the kids. Lightspeed will change them to 'standard' jacks if
needed.
-Brand New never used RV10 Cabin cover...has Dan's N number on it in
what appears to be vinyl. It looks like it will come off with a heat
gun but I'm NOT going to touch it. It's great big hefty top quality
cover that is in a heavy duty soft case. I can pull it out and see
who made it you need me to.
-Untouched RV10 spinner kit....no hardware but I can provide it if
desired....I sorted all of Dan's leftover hardware into my bins as I
felt it was the best place for it.
-'Used' Flightcom Denali ANR headset (blue) that shows normal wear.
No paperwork or bag or anything. I tried it on at the house and the
ANR worked with the batteries that were in the case.
-RV10 upper and lower cowls. Untouched...Dan went the James cowls.
-LOTS of books including many of Tony B's books....some still have
the shrink wrap on them and ALL of them are in perfect condition. If
you are interested in any of the books let me know and I can make a
list....I put in 3 13+hr days on it so far and haven't had time to
make a list. Obviously I'll have to but I'm just letting you know
that there are a LOT of quality aviation releted 'reading' and 'how
to' books.
-King IFR package in carry case. Lots of books and DVDS....just
glanced at it so that's all I know about it right now.
-Brand new (used once is my guess) Intercomp Racing scales. Dan
didn't even pull the plastic off the bases.
http://tinyurl.com/2tpyzx
-'The Claw' tie down system. I'd like to say that is was 'new in the
box' but I saw a couple of blades of grass in there and a couple
of 'marks' on the one of the yellow powdercoated anchors so they
are 'almost new'.
-new heater/blower that Dan had for the Suby engine in the RV10.
-overhead console for the RV10
-armrest console for the RV10.
-huge (maybe 20 gallon) square (remote type) fiberglass fuel tank
with cap/vent/etc.....you know Dan....he wanted to fly the RV10 non
stop to California and back :^). The tank is obviously new.
-I also have Dan's custom made (his own invention AFAIK) RV10 door
lock system for the factory outside door handles. They are
powdercoated red and have locks on them (2 ea). You'll have
to 'remove' the locks and get your own as I don't have any keys.
They are one of kind and a very neat idea for the factory locks...I
like the factory handles better than the aftermarket and Dan was
going to make me a set but we never got around to it since I sold my
RV10. I may call one of the vendors to see if they want to copy
Dan's idea after checking with Trish.
There is more but that's off the top of my head to see if there was
any interest.
I can (and will) provide any/all details on any of the
stuff....again....this post was just to get the word out to you
guys.
I'm NOT putting prices on anything...it was Dan's and the money goes
to Trish so you offer what ever it's worth to you. I figure if you
are interested then you have an idea of the value. If you want it
then make me an offer and we'll go from there. All checks can be
made out to Trish and you pay your own shipping.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm - -Oh yea...my little Red Haired Wifey
reminded me that I have an 'assortment' of David Clark and
Lightspeed ANR headsets that I've collected if anyone is interested
let me know...again...these are mine and not part of Dan's stuff.
__._,_.___
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Subject: | Re: Flymire heated pitot |
That price is a little steep. The full list of pitot tubes from Aircraft Spruce
has that one near the top and you have to scroll down a lot to find the Gretz
heated pitot tube for $40 less; and a lot more scrolling to find the Dynon heated
pitot/AOA tube - also for $40 less.
Why does it have a $40 premium?
John
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Read this topic online here:
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I like the dimmers from Perihelion:
http://www.periheliondesign.com/egpavr.htm
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025 Almost done with Wheelpants!
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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Subject: | Re: Parking Brake Question |
Les, I can't remember whether it was a DG2 or 3 or DG4, I've got a
variety of Adel clamp sizes and I used one which didn't allow any movement.
Deems
Les Kearney wrote:
>
> Hi Deems
>
> Your setup is very similar to mine (I shamelessly borrowed from the various
> methods posted). It looks like you used a 1/4" cushion clap to hold the
> cable sleeve. Is this correct?
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: February-10-08 8:20 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Parking Brake Question
>
>
> Here's one way.
> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2036%20Brake%20Lines/slides/DSC05253.html
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
> Les Kearney wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> Over the weekend I started working on a parking brake. I have looked
>> at the pix in the archives but am still wondering about the best way
>> to attach the cable sleeve to the standoff. I have tried a 1/4"
>> cushion clamp but am not happy with the results (it seems a bit loose).
>>
>>
>>
>> Can any of the build gurus suggest a better way?
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>
>
>
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In a message dated 2/10/2008 7:04:07 PM Central Standard Time,
speckter@comcast.net writes:
I don't comment often, but taking off on the first flight without setting
the various speeds into your EFIS could easily make it your last flight
I sort of hope that most builders flying skill are a little better than
that...if you need to fly by numbers then you may not want to be the test pilot
until you buildup some feel skills to test flight a new plane. Sure you may
have some surprise, but for goodness sake get some air under you and use a
longer runway than you think you'll need until you've got the feel of the plane.
Who knows that any of the instruments may be accure on your first but you
should be able to fly the plane by feel and touch. You may need to borrow a
good handheld GPS that will give you some back up numbers such as a Garmin
396/496...but don't get too bogged down in the screens and forget to fly the
plane...these wiz bang devices are great but you've only got a few things to
consider....airspeed, attitude and altitude.
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Subject: | Re: FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale |
What is Rick's e-mail???
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Leffler
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:48 AM
Subject: RV10-List: FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for
sale
Contact Rick Gray if you have any interest.
From: OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:37 PM
To: OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale
Hi Gang,
Wow....Danno' had a LOT OF STUFF!! As you know Dan bought nothing
but the best...along with all the 'bells and whistles'.
I picked up all of his airplane stuff on Thursday (13hrs)....got
it 'semi' organized on Friday (13hrs)....and it was picked up on
Saturday (another long day :^)). Jimmy B. who I took for a ride and
many of you met a couple months ago (and, who ordered the entire RV7
QB from Van) is the proud new owner of Dan's very lightly used drill
press, DRDT dimpler, brand new C' frame dimpler, big time fancy
smancy Daniels Mil Spec Crimper, pneumatic squeezer(s), band saw, 4"
belt sander....etc etc etc etc etc etc...you get the message. I'm
really glad it all went to one place....and especially to Jim (I
like to call him 'Jimmy' :^). I figure I'll get to 'use' these tools
whenever I'm over at Jim's place helping him pound rivets so I
couldn't be happier!!
Oh yea...I bought a few things for myself....I wanted something that
would remind me of Dan everytime I used it!
OK...that said...there are a few items left over....I'll be posting
them on Doug's site tomorrow or the next day but I said I'd mention
them here 1st.....so I am :^). Dan loved this group and I hope it
goes to folks from the group....if not...'it is what it is'.
-Brand New in the box never used Lightspeed Thirty Three 'G'
headsets with the Lemo Power plugs....2 sets...Dan had bought these
for the kids. Lightspeed will change them to 'standard' jacks if
needed.
-Brand New never used RV10 Cabin cover...has Dan's N number on it in
what appears to be vinyl. It looks like it will come off with a heat
gun but I'm NOT going to touch it. It's great big hefty top quality
cover that is in a heavy duty soft case. I can pull it out and see
who made it you need me to.
-Untouched RV10 spinner kit....no hardware but I can provide it if
desired....I sorted all of Dan's leftover hardware into my bins as I
felt it was the best place for it.
-'Used' Flightcom Denali ANR headset (blue) that shows normal wear.
No paperwork or bag or anything. I tried it on at the house and the
ANR worked with the batteries that were in the case.
-RV10 upper and lower cowls. Untouched...Dan went the James cowls.
-LOTS of books including many of Tony B's books....some still have
the shrink wrap on them and ALL of them are in perfect condition. If
you are interested in any of the books let me know and I can make a
list....I put in 3 13+hr days on it so far and haven't had time to
make a list. Obviously I'll have to but I'm just letting you know
that there are a LOT of quality aviation releted 'reading' and 'how
to' books.
-King IFR package in carry case. Lots of books and DVDS....just
glanced at it so that's all I know about it right now.
-Brand new (used once is my guess) Intercomp Racing scales. Dan
didn't even pull the plastic off the bases.
http://tinyurl.com/2tpyzx
-'The Claw' tie down system. I'd like to say that is was 'new in the
box' but I saw a couple of blades of grass in there and a couple
of 'marks' on the one of the yellow powdercoated anchors so they
are 'almost new'.
-new heater/blower that Dan had for the Suby engine in the RV10.
-overhead console for the RV10
-armrest console for the RV10.
-huge (maybe 20 gallon) square (remote type) fiberglass fuel tank
with cap/vent/etc.....you know Dan....he wanted to fly the RV10 non
stop to California and back :^). The tank is obviously new.
-I also have Dan's custom made (his own invention AFAIK) RV10 door
lock system for the factory outside door handles. They are
powdercoated red and have locks on them (2 ea). You'll have
to 'remove' the locks and get your own as I don't have any keys.
They are one of kind and a very neat idea for the factory locks...I
like the factory handles better than the aftermarket and Dan was
going to make me a set but we never got around to it since I sold my
RV10. I may call one of the vendors to see if they want to copy
Dan's idea after checking with Trish.
There is more but that's off the top of my head to see if there was
any interest.
I can (and will) provide any/all details on any of the
stuff....again....this post was just to get the word out to you
guys.
I'm NOT putting prices on anything...it was Dan's and the money goes
to Trish so you offer what ever it's worth to you. I figure if you
are interested then you have an idea of the value. If you want it
then make me an offer and we'll go from there. All checks can be
made out to Trish and you pay your own shipping.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm - -Oh yea...my little Red Haired Wifey
reminded me that I have an 'assortment' of David Clark and
Lightspeed ANR headsets that I've collected if anyone is interested
let me know...again...these are mine and not part of Dan's stuff.
__._,_.___
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2/10/2008 12:21 PM
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Subject: | FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale |
Yes, what's his email. I tried to email the Ohio Valley group and it
bounced.
do not archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Britton
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for
sale
What is Rick's e-mail???
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Leffler <mailto:rv@thelefflers.com>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:48 AM
Subject: RV10-List: FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale
Contact Rick Gray if you have any interest.
From: OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:37 PM
Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale
Hi Gang,
Wow....Danno' had a LOT OF STUFF!! As you know Dan bought nothing
but the best...along with all the 'bells and whistles'.
I picked up all of his airplane stuff on Thursday (13hrs)....got
it 'semi' organized on Friday (13hrs)....and it was picked up on
Saturday (another long day :^)). Jimmy B. who I took for a ride and
many of you met a couple months ago (and, who ordered the entire RV7
QB from Van) is the proud new owner of Dan's very lightly used drill
press, DRDT dimpler, brand new C' frame dimpler, big time fancy
smancy Daniels Mil Spec Crimper, pneumatic squeezer(s), band saw, 4"
belt sander....etc etc etc etc etc etc...you get the message. I'm
really glad it all went to one place....and especially to Jim (I
like to call him 'Jimmy' :^). I figure I'll get to 'use' these tools
whenever I'm over at Jim's place helping him pound rivets so I
couldn't be happier!!
Oh yea...I bought a few things for myself....I wanted something that
would remind me of Dan everytime I used it!
OK...that said...there are a few items left over....I'll be posting
them on Doug's site tomorrow or the next day but I said I'd mention
them here 1st.....so I am :^). Dan loved this group and I hope it
goes to folks from the group....if not...'it is what it is'.
-Brand New in the box never used Lightspeed Thirty Three 'G'
headsets with the Lemo Power plugs....2 sets...Dan had bought these
for the kids. Lightspeed will change them to 'standard' jacks if
needed.
-Brand New never used RV10 Cabin cover...has Dan's N number on it in
what appears to be vinyl. It looks like it will come off with a heat
gun but I'm NOT going to touch it. It's great big hefty top quality
cover that is in a heavy duty soft case. I can pull it out and see
who made it you need me to.
-Untouched RV10 spinner kit....no hardware but I can provide it if
desired....I sorted all of Dan's leftover hardware into my bins as I
felt it was the best place for it.
-'Used' Flightcom Denali ANR headset (blue) that shows normal wear.
No paperwork or bag or anything. I tried it on at the house and the
ANR worked with the batteries that were in the case.
-RV10 upper and lower cowls. Untouched...Dan went the James cowls.
-LOTS of books including many of Tony B's books....some still have
the shrink wrap on them and ALL of them are in perfect condition. If
you are interested in any of the books let me know and I can make a
list....I put in 3 13+hr days on it so far and haven't had time to
make a list. Obviously I'll have to but I'm just letting you know
that there are a LOT of quality aviation releted 'reading' and 'how
to' books.
-King IFR package in carry case. Lots of books and DVDS....just
glanced at it so that's all I know about it right now.
-Brand new (used once is my guess) Intercomp Racing scales. Dan
didn't even pull the plastic off the bases.
http://tinyurl.com/2tpyzx
-'The Claw' tie down system. I'd like to say that is was 'new in the
box' but I saw a couple of blades of grass in there and a couple
of 'marks' on the one of the yellow powdercoated anchors so they
are 'almost new'.
-new heater/blower that Dan had for the Suby engine in the RV10.
-overhead console for the RV10
-armrest console for the RV10.
-huge (maybe 20 gallon) square (remote type) fiberglass fuel tank
with cap/vent/etc.....you know Dan....he wanted to fly the RV10 non
stop to California and back :^). The tank is obviously new.
-I also have Dan's custom made (his own invention AFAIK) RV10 door
lock system for the factory outside door handles. They are
powdercoated red and have locks on them (2 ea). You'll have
to 'remove' the locks and get your own as I don't have any keys.
They are one of kind and a very neat idea for the factory locks...I
like the factory handles better than the aftermarket and Dan was
going to make me a set but we never got around to it since I sold my
RV10. I may call one of the vendors to see if they want to copy
Dan's idea after checking with Trish.
There is more but that's off the top of my head to see if there was
any interest.
I can (and will) provide any/all details on any of the
stuff....again....this post was just to get the word out to you
guys.
I'm NOT putting prices on anything...it was Dan's and the money goes
to Trish so you offer what ever it's worth to you. I figure if you
are interested then you have an idea of the value. If you want it
then make me an offer and we'll go from there. All checks can be
made out to Trish and you pay your own shipping.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm - -Oh yea...my little Red Haired Wifey
reminded me that I have an 'assortment' of David Clark and
Lightspeed ANR headsets that I've collected if anyone is interested
let me know...again...these are mine and not part of Dan's stuff.
__._,_.___
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Subject: | FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale |
rickgray@roadrunner.com
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Britton
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for
sale
What is Rick's e-mail???
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Leffler <mailto:rv@thelefflers.com>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:48 AM
Subject: RV10-List: FW: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale
Contact Rick Gray if you have any interest.
From: OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:37 PM
Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] Dan's tools and stuff for sale
Hi Gang,
Wow....Danno' had a LOT OF STUFF!! As you know Dan bought nothing
but the best...along with all the 'bells and whistles'.
I picked up all of his airplane stuff on Thursday (13hrs)....got
it 'semi' organized on Friday (13hrs)....and it was picked up on
Saturday (another long day :^)). Jimmy B. who I took for a ride and
many of you met a couple months ago (and, who ordered the entire RV7
QB from Van) is the proud new owner of Dan's very lightly used drill
press, DRDT dimpler, brand new C' frame dimpler, big time fancy
smancy Daniels Mil Spec Crimper, pneumatic squeezer(s), band saw, 4"
belt sander....etc etc etc etc etc etc...you get the message. I'm
really glad it all went to one place....and especially to Jim (I
like to call him 'Jimmy' :^). I figure I'll get to 'use' these tools
whenever I'm over at Jim's place helping him pound rivets so I
couldn't be happier!!
Oh yea...I bought a few things for myself....I wanted something that
would remind me of Dan everytime I used it!
OK...that said...there are a few items left over....I'll be posting
them on Doug's site tomorrow or the next day but I said I'd mention
them here 1st.....so I am :^). Dan loved this group and I hope it
goes to folks from the group....if not...'it is what it is'.
-Brand New in the box never used Lightspeed Thirty Three 'G'
headsets with the Lemo Power plugs....2 sets...Dan had bought these
for the kids. Lightspeed will change them to 'standard' jacks if
needed.
-Brand New never used RV10 Cabin cover...has Dan's N number on it in
what appears to be vinyl. It looks like it will come off with a heat
gun but I'm NOT going to touch it. It's great big hefty top quality
cover that is in a heavy duty soft case. I can pull it out and see
who made it you need me to.
-Untouched RV10 spinner kit....no hardware but I can provide it if
desired....I sorted all of Dan's leftover hardware into my bins as I
felt it was the best place for it.
-'Used' Flightcom Denali ANR headset (blue) that shows normal wear.
No paperwork or bag or anything. I tried it on at the house and the
ANR worked with the batteries that were in the case.
-RV10 upper and lower cowls. Untouched...Dan went the James cowls.
-LOTS of books including many of Tony B's books....some still have
the shrink wrap on them and ALL of them are in perfect condition. If
you are interested in any of the books let me know and I can make a
list....I put in 3 13+hr days on it so far and haven't had time to
make a list. Obviously I'll have to but I'm just letting you know
that there are a LOT of quality aviation releted 'reading' and 'how
to' books.
-King IFR package in carry case. Lots of books and DVDS....just
glanced at it so that's all I know about it right now.
-Brand new (used once is my guess) Intercomp Racing scales. Dan
didn't even pull the plastic off the bases.
http://tinyurl.com/2tpyzx
-'The Claw' tie down system. I'd like to say that is was 'new in the
box' but I saw a couple of blades of grass in there and a couple
of 'marks' on the one of the yellow powdercoated anchors so they
are 'almost new'.
-new heater/blower that Dan had for the Suby engine in the RV10.
-overhead console for the RV10
-armrest console for the RV10.
-huge (maybe 20 gallon) square (remote type) fiberglass fuel tank
with cap/vent/etc.....you know Dan....he wanted to fly the RV10 non
stop to California and back :^). The tank is obviously new.
-I also have Dan's custom made (his own invention AFAIK) RV10 door
lock system for the factory outside door handles. They are
powdercoated red and have locks on them (2 ea). You'll have
to 'remove' the locks and get your own as I don't have any keys.
They are one of kind and a very neat idea for the factory locks...I
like the factory handles better than the aftermarket and Dan was
going to make me a set but we never got around to it since I sold my
RV10. I may call one of the vendors to see if they want to copy
Dan's idea after checking with Trish.
There is more but that's off the top of my head to see if there was
any interest.
I can (and will) provide any/all details on any of the
stuff....again....this post was just to get the word out to you
guys.
I'm NOT putting prices on anything...it was Dan's and the money goes
to Trish so you offer what ever it's worth to you. I figure if you
are interested then you have an idea of the value. If you want it
then make me an offer and we'll go from there. All checks can be
made out to Trish and you pay your own shipping.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm - -Oh yea...my little Red Haired Wifey
reminded me that I have an 'assortment' of David Clark and
Lightspeed ANR headsets that I've collected if anyone is interested
let me know...again...these are mine and not part of Dan's stuff.
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Subject: | Re: Aircrafter's Seminar Pictures |
The pictures from the class are great, especially of the windows. Can someone
please answer a couple of questions?
1) What adhesive was used for bonding the windows to the frame?
2) There appears to be a black trim of some sort around the outside of the window.
What is it and what was the process to install it?
I have been struggling with this process since the Weld-On seems to be a good adhesive
but a little too hard to keep from cracking in the seams.
All replies are appreciated.
Nick
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RV-10 (40015) Finish
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Anybody that thinks that any of us should be going out and flying a test regime
to determine our own Va, Vfe and Vne should seriously rethink their position.
These are design limits! I have to believe that the early responses were people
assuming the request was simply for stall speeds.
All EFIS systems require entry of the "arc limits" (just like a simple mechanical
ASI) so the information can be displayed.
Bob
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I can just feel the love
Gary
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: V Speeds
In a message dated 2/10/2008 7:04:07 PM Central Standard Time,
speckter@comcast.net writes:
I don't comment often, but taking off on the first flight without setting
the various speeds into your EFIS could easily make it your last flight
I sort of hope that most builders flying skill are a little better than
that...if you need to fly by numbers then you may not want to be the test
pilot until you buildup some feel skills to test flight a new plane. Sure
you may have some surprise, but for goodness sake get some air under you and
use a longer runway than you think you'll need until you've got the feel of
the plane. Who knows that any of the instruments may be accure on your
first but you should be able to fly the plane by feel and touch. You may
need to borrow a good handheld GPS that will give you some back up numbers
such as a Garmin 396/496...but don't get too bogged down in the screens and
forget to fly the plane...these wiz bang devices are great but you've only
got a few things to consider....airspeed, attitude and altitude.
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Subject: | Re: Torque Wrenches |
Great,
thanks you all for your advice!
Michael
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#511
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Ha!! Makes me think.....
"I tested it to Vne, nope...didn't break. Well, so I tested it to
20kts greater. Nope, didn't break. So I added 50 more kts.
Nope, not yet. Added another 5 kts. Dang...was that my wing
that just made that noise? Yep, Well, there you go....I guess I'll
set the Vne to 270kts. ;)"
That is ALLLLLL nonsense, for those who can't decipher.
Yep, when I commented, I just meant the "other" speeds. The ones
you just listed??? I'd rather not be a part of testing.
I got a chuckle out of the concept of testing though.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
bcondrey wrote:
> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> Anybody that thinks that any of us should be going out and flying a
> test regime to determine our own Va, Vfe and Vne should seriously
> rethink their position. These are design limits! I have to believe
> that the early responses were people assuming the request was simply
> for stall speeds.
>
> All EFIS systems require entry of the "arc limits" (just like a
> simple mechanical ASI) so the information can be displayed.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163507#163507
>
>
>
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Tim was that IAS TAS or CAS?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: V Speeds
>
> Ha!! Makes me think.....
>
> "I tested it to Vne, nope...didn't break. Well, so I tested it to
> 20kts greater. Nope, didn't break. So I added 50 more kts.
> Nope, not yet. Added another 5 kts. Dang...was that my wing
> that just made that noise? Yep, Well, there you go....I guess I'll
> set the Vne to 270kts. ;)"
>
> That is ALLLLLL nonsense, for those who can't decipher.
>
> Yep, when I commented, I just meant the "other" speeds. The ones
> you just listed??? I'd rather not be a part of testing.
>
> I got a chuckle out of the concept of testing though.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> bcondrey wrote:
>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>
>> Anybody that thinks that any of us should be going out and flying a
>> test regime to determine our own Va, Vfe and Vne should seriously
>> rethink their position. These are design limits! I have to believe
>> that the early responses were people assuming the request was simply
>> for stall speeds.
>>
>> All EFIS systems require entry of the "arc limits" (just like a
>> simple mechanical ASI) so the information can be displayed.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163507#163507
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Aw, what the heck, it was calibrated true airspeed being indicated.
;)
The hardest part of the testing is that I prefer to set my instruments
to read in furlongs per minute, which really messes with the avionics
algorithm, and I was only showing 41 fur/min, so I figured that
this meant I was still technically WAY under the number 200.....
which was what Van's spec'd, right? ;)
What fun you can have http://www.onlineconversion.com/speed_all.htm
That's not too bad, considering I have a 197.7 poncelet power engine.
http://www.onlineconversion.com/power.htm
Heck, I'm learning units that I didn't even know existed. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Chris and Susie McGough wrote:
> <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>
> Tim was that IAS TAS or CAS?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: V Speeds
>
>
>>
>> Ha!! Makes me think.....
>>
>> "I tested it to Vne, nope...didn't break. Well, so I tested it to
>> 20kts greater. Nope, didn't break. So I added 50 more kts.
>> Nope, not yet. Added another 5 kts. Dang...was that my wing
>> that just made that noise? Yep, Well, there you go....I guess I'll
>> set the Vne to 270kts. ;)"
>>
>> That is ALLLLLL nonsense, for those who can't decipher.
>>
>> Yep, when I commented, I just meant the "other" speeds. The ones
>> you just listed??? I'd rather not be a part of testing.
>>
>> I got a chuckle out of the concept of testing though.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> bcondrey wrote:
>>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>>
>>> Anybody that thinks that any of us should be going out and flying a
>>> test regime to determine our own Va, Vfe and Vne should seriously
>>> rethink their position. These are design limits! I have to believe
>>> that the early responses were people assuming the request was simply
>>> for stall speeds.
>>>
>>> All EFIS systems require entry of the "arc limits" (just like a
>>> simple mechanical ASI) so the information can be displayed.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163507#163507
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | alternate elevator trim settings or twisted tail |
All:
I have had several requests to repost my elevator trim investigation from December
2006.
Four or five builders have called since the original post asking about my confidence
level and other questions and they all said they would follow the measurements
below. As I received no feedback my assumption is that all is well. Additionally,
the two RV-10's at WVI use the following settings with no issues.
The key idea is load the plane with light people in the rear seats, add approximately
60 lbs of baggage, run the plane up to cruise and look for the twisted
condition. Keep this problem as a possibility in your mind until you rule it
out.
Bill
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I went through this issue with Vans couple of months ago hoping for a plans revision
or service bulletin but those folks seem to be busy in other areas - but
I believe it to be important and want to share my findings.
I setup my elevator tabs per the instructions with both left and right 35 degrees
below trail position when the servo is at the full up position. It is possible
to meet this spec by making adjustments at the servo end of the cable.
During my first cross country I happened to look back at the tail and saw it
was twisted. The elevator counter weight was above the horizontal stablizer on
one side and below on the other. This bothered me more than a little as the forces
would need to be high to cause this twist. I had not noticed this during
my test flights because I now had luggage in the back and needed more down trim.
After a lot of measurements I determined that the problem was I followed the
instructions. If you begin with both elevator trim surfaces down at exactly
35 degrees the port side will never rise to trail position do to the cam action
of the two actuators. Yet, the starboard will rise .75 inch above trail causing
the twist.
At a minimum effort, all flying RV-10s should check for this condition. The fix
is easy.
Highly recommend that you set the trim as follows:
1. Run the trim servo to full nose up.
2. Set the starboard trim tab trailing edge to 3 inches below elevator trailing
edge.
3. Run the starboard trim tab to trail.
4. Set the port trim tab to trail.
Using these settings you will be able to trim out all pitch forces during final
with the CG forward.
Bill DeRouchey
billderou(at)yahoo.com
N939SB, flying straight
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I thought you could just release a cord with knots spaced out on it from the
window and see how fast they flew past the tail to get your speed????
Dave Leikam
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: V Speeds
>
> Aw, what the heck, it was calibrated true airspeed being indicated.
> ;)
>
> The hardest part of the testing is that I prefer to set my instruments
> to read in furlongs per minute, which really messes with the avionics
> algorithm, and I was only showing 41 fur/min, so I figured that
> this meant I was still technically WAY under the number 200.....
> which was what Van's spec'd, right? ;)
>
> What fun you can have http://www.onlineconversion.com/speed_all.htm
>
> That's not too bad, considering I have a 197.7 poncelet power engine.
> http://www.onlineconversion.com/power.htm
>
> Heck, I'm learning units that I didn't even know existed. ;)
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Chris and Susie McGough wrote:
>> <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>>
>> Tim was that IAS TAS or CAS?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: V Speeds
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Ha!! Makes me think.....
>>>
>>> "I tested it to Vne, nope...didn't break. Well, so I tested it to
>>> 20kts greater. Nope, didn't break. So I added 50 more kts.
>>> Nope, not yet. Added another 5 kts. Dang...was that my wing
>>> that just made that noise? Yep, Well, there you go....I guess I'll
>>> set the Vne to 270kts. ;)"
>>>
>>> That is ALLLLLL nonsense, for those who can't decipher.
>>>
>>> Yep, when I commented, I just meant the "other" speeds. The ones
>>> you just listed??? I'd rather not be a part of testing.
>>>
>>> I got a chuckle out of the concept of testing though.
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> bcondrey wrote:
>>>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>>>
>>>> Anybody that thinks that any of us should be going out and flying a
>>>> test regime to determine our own Va, Vfe and Vne should seriously
>>>> rethink their position. These are design limits! I have to believe
>>>> that the early responses were people assuming the request was simply
>>>> for stall speeds.
>>>>
>>>> All EFIS systems require entry of the "arc limits" (just like a
>>>> simple mechanical ASI) so the information can be displayed.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163507#163507
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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That's only if you have a piece of wood attached to one end of the log cord.
Bob k
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: V Speeds
I thought you could just release a cord with knots spaced out on it from the
window and see how fast they flew past the tail to get your speed????
Dave Leikam
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: V Speeds
>
> Aw, what the heck, it was calibrated true airspeed being indicated.
> ;)
>
> The hardest part of the testing is that I prefer to set my instruments
> to read in furlongs per minute, which really messes with the avionics
> algorithm, and I was only showing 41 fur/min, so I figured that
> this meant I was still technically WAY under the number 200.....
> which was what Van's spec'd, right? ;)
>
> What fun you can have http://www.onlineconversion.com/speed_all.htm
>
> That's not too bad, considering I have a 197.7 poncelet power engine.
> http://www.onlineconversion.com/power.htm
>
> Heck, I'm learning units that I didn't even know existed. ;)
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Chris and Susie McGough wrote:
>> <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>>
>> Tim was that IAS TAS or CAS?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: V Speeds
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Ha!! Makes me think.....
>>>
>>> "I tested it to Vne, nope...didn't break. Well, so I tested it to
>>> 20kts greater. Nope, didn't break. So I added 50 more kts.
>>> Nope, not yet. Added another 5 kts. Dang...was that my wing
>>> that just made that noise? Yep, Well, there you go....I guess I'll
>>> set the Vne to 270kts. ;)"
>>>
>>> That is ALLLLLL nonsense, for those who can't decipher.
>>>
>>> Yep, when I commented, I just meant the "other" speeds. The ones
>>> you just listed??? I'd rather not be a part of testing.
>>>
>>> I got a chuckle out of the concept of testing though.
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> bcondrey wrote:
>>>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>>>
>>>> Anybody that thinks that any of us should be going out and flying a
>>>> test regime to determine our own Va, Vfe and Vne should seriously
>>>> rethink their position. These are design limits! I have to believe
>>>> that the early responses were people assuming the request was simply
>>>> for stall speeds.
>>>>
>>>> All EFIS systems require entry of the "arc limits" (just like a
>>>> simple mechanical ASI) so the information can be displayed.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163507#163507
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Peel ply left on the cabin top NOT - fitting the cabin |
top
Hi Ben,
Sorry for the belated response. I've been trying to dig up the card the
blades were packaged in so I knew the 'toothings' of the blades I used. The
markings on the blade have worn off so I wasn't sure. But I finally found
it.
At Dave's class I believe they used 24T. I used the 24T with the tapered
tip for any rounded cuts like along the windshield flange. It cut well, but
dulled rather quickly. I could only use it for maybe 2 sections before I
had to swap. I used the 32T non-tapered tip blade for the straight runs
like the bottom flange underneath the rear windows. That blade seemed to
cut better than the 24T and also seemed to last longer. Not sure if that
was due to technique or the section I was cutting, but that's what I recall.
I wanted to give the 18T a little try, but ran out of cabin to cut before I
got around to it.
Best Regards,
Patrick
#40715 / N690CT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Peel ply left on the cabin top NOT - fitting the
cabin top
Patrick thanks for the write up. Which body saw blades did you find worked
best fine or coarse tooth?
-Ben Westfall
#40579 / N109LB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Peel ply left on the cabin top NOT - fitting the
cabin top
On mine, the scribe lines were very unreliable. The scribes on the cabin
bottom flange under the rear windows varied from 1 1/8" to 7/8" (plans
specify 3/4")and were extremely wavy with dual scribe lines overlapping and
crossing when they started over. I re-marked according to dimensions in the
plans.
I did not finish the fitting yet, but the initial cuts were definitely too
large to fit. The door jams weren't anywhere close to fitting to the
fuselage. I've been waiting until I had enough time to carefully work on the
fit.
As for that magic mini Makita belt sander (
http://www.makita.com/menu.php?pg=product_det&tag=9031 ), when I got home
from the Watsonville class I searched all the local places for one, but no
one carried it. I ended up using a standard electric hand held Makita 3x18
belt sander which I already had:
http://www.makita.com/menu.php?pg=product_det&tag=9910 (have lots of belts,
they go quick, I found the more expensive blue belts last much much longer
than the standard brown ones and would recommend them)
That worked great. To get clean corners I used the die grinder sanding drum
kit from Avery:
http://www.averytools.com/pc-924-80-3m-rubber-expanding-sanding-drums-and-ba
nds-kit.aspx
For the actual cutting I used this saw from Harbor Freight:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=91753
It worked great aside from running through blades quickly. I ran out but
was able to find a blade pack at a local home depot that worked and was able
to soldier on to completion:
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10
051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100098704
That combination of tools worked perfectly for me. I'm glad I didn't spend
the $250 on that mini-Makita.
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715 / N690CT
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Really Tim? I found furlongs per nanosecond to help tremendously with the
mental arithmetic. It was also a big help to convert the wet compass to
radians instead of degrees. At first it was a little extra work to
accommodate ATC, but you quickly get used to it.
We should get the Mythbusters to verify the design speeds. They love to
break stuff after building it. That should be right up their alley.
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715 / N690CT
Do NOT archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: V Speeds
Aw, what the heck, it was calibrated true airspeed being indicated.
;)
The hardest part of the testing is that I prefer to set my instruments
to read in furlongs per minute, which really messes with the avionics
algorithm, and I was only showing 41 fur/min, so I figured that
this meant I was still technically WAY under the number 200.....
which was what Van's spec'd, right? ;)
What fun you can have http://www.onlineconversion.com/speed_all.htm
That's not too bad, considering I have a 197.7 poncelet power engine.
http://www.onlineconversion.com/power.htm
Heck, I'm learning units that I didn't even know existed. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Chris and Susie McGough wrote:
> <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>
> Tim was that IAS TAS or CAS?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: V Speeds
>
>
>>
>> Ha!! Makes me think.....
>>
>> "I tested it to Vne, nope...didn't break. Well, so I tested it to
>> 20kts greater. Nope, didn't break. So I added 50 more kts.
>> Nope, not yet. Added another 5 kts. Dang...was that my wing
>> that just made that noise? Yep, Well, there you go....I guess I'll
>> set the Vne to 270kts. ;)"
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>> That is ALLLLLL nonsense, for those who can't decipher.
>>
>> Yep, when I commented, I just meant the "other" speeds. The ones
>> you just listed??? I'd rather not be a part of testing.
>>
>> I got a chuckle out of the concept of testing though.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> bcondrey wrote:
>>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>>
>>> Anybody that thinks that any of us should be going out and flying a
>>> test regime to determine our own Va, Vfe and Vne should seriously
>>> rethink their position. These are design limits! I have to believe
>>> that the early responses were people assuming the request was simply
>>> for stall speeds.
>>>
>>> All EFIS systems require entry of the "arc limits" (just like a
>>> simple mechanical ASI) so the information can be displayed.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163507#163507
>>>
>>>
>>>
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