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1. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: O-540 C4B5 (pilotdds@aol.com)
2. 07:06 AM - Silpruf Window installation (Fred Williams, M.D.)
3. 07:20 AM - Re: SilPruf Window Installation (Here goes...) (Les Kearney)
4. 07:55 AM - Re: Silpruf Window installation (Les Kearney)
5. 08:24 AM - Re: Silpruf Window installation (Rick Sked)
6. 08:58 AM - Re: Duckworks with tip tanks (don wentz)
7. 09:46 AM - Re: Silpruf Window installation (Dave Saylor)
8. 10:58 AM - Silpruf window installation (Fred Williams, M.D.)
9. 11:58 AM - Re: Silpruf Window installation (Vernon Smith)
10. 01:38 PM - Re: Silpruf Window installation (Dave Saylor)
11. 02:24 PM - Re: Duckworks with tip tanks (lbgjb10)
12. 04:12 PM - Garmin WAAS GPS Pricing (Robin Marks)
13. 04:51 PM - Re: Garmin WAAS GPS Pricing (Jesse Saint)
14. 06:59 PM - Re: Garmin WAAS GPS Pricing (Kelly McMullen)
15. 09:25 PM - Shameless For-Profit Promotion of New RV-10 Products (Dave Saylor)
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I used the B4B5 and used autofuel mix with good results.I did overhaul the engine
and raised the compression to 9:1 so no more autofuel.It is a good fit and
I found no particular problems.
728DD 180 hours
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From: ddnebert <doug@mapcontext.com>
Sent: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 7:29 pm
Subject: RV10-List: Re: O-540 C4B5
I looked at the engine spec sheet from Lycoming and it shows the weights and
dimensions, HP, RPM, TBO for the various IO-540 models. It appears that the
O-540-A and -B models are nearly exactly the same dimensions as the -D and -C
models, and about 10 pounds lighter (minus FI system?). It also appears that
this model (-B4B5 and -B1B5) is autogas STC-d.
Would this be a viable/easy alternative for the RV-10, dimension and
accessory-wise?
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RV-10 Builder #40546
Tail mostly done, wings complete, starting SB fuse
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| Subject: | Silpruf Window installation |
Dave;
Thanks for the write up on the windows. It looks like a good product
after reading the data sheet.
Three questions. , one request.
1. how many tubes does one need for doing the 4 windows?
2. best price /supplier to purchase?
3. I couldn't get the link to work for the video.
4. could you provide a close up picture of the finished edge?
Thanks.
Fred Williams
40515
Starting door fit
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| Subject: | SilPruf Window Installation (Here goes...) |
Dave
Many thanks for such a detailed post. Where I live it can go from -40F in
winter to +90F in summer. Thermal expansion of joints around windows etc is
an issue that I have been concerned about.
On the strength of your recommendation, I have ordered the video and hope to
put it to good use.
Regards
Les Kearney
#40643
C-GCWZ (Reserved)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Sent: February-12-08 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: SilPruf Window Installation (Here goes...)
Nope. But I have seen it work very well in many other applications besides
this one. The numbers say it would take a catastrophe to break the
bond--thousands of pounds loading against the window--at which point the
strength of the bond becomes a moot point. So, no, I haven't checked, but I
still I trust the application.
Also, it's a bit of an apples/oranges comparison because the SilPruf
stretches so much further before breaking. That's what makes it nice for
preventing the hairline cracks.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SilPruf Window Installation (Here goes...)
Dave,
Have you compared the holding power of SilPruf to that of WeldOn?
Thanks,
Tim
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Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 1000 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
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| Subject: | Silpruf Window installation |
Hi Fred
Here is the link in a smaller form: http://tinyurl.com/2ndhr9
Dave's link was broken by a line break in the text.
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643
C-GCWZ (Reserved)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Williams,
M.D.
Sent: February-13-08 7:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Silpruf Window installation
<drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
Dave;
Thanks for the write up on the windows. It looks like a good product
after reading the data sheet.
Three questions. , one request.
1. how many tubes does one need for doing the 4 windows?
2. best price /supplier to purchase?
3. I couldn't get the link to work for the video.
4. could you provide a close up picture of the finished edge?
Thanks.
Fred Williams
40515
Starting door fit
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| Subject: | Re: Silpruf Window installation |
I ordered 4 10 oz tubes, $68 including shipping total. If I have any left there
is my building buddy Mr. Kaufmann who will most likely claim my leftovers. From
what I read on the instructions, I'll need at least one tube after paint. Here's
the link I bought it from.
http://www.nextag.com/silicone-sealant/search-html
Rick S.
40185
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From: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:57:42 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Silpruf Window installation
Dave;
Thanks for the write up on the windows. It looks like a good product
after reading the data sheet.
Three questions. , one request.
1. how many tubes does one need for doing the 4 windows?
2. best price /supplier to purchase?
3. I couldn't get the link to work for the video.
4. could you provide a close up picture of the finished edge?
Thanks.
Fred Williams
40515
Starting door fit
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| Subject: | Duckworks with tip tanks |
Jesse,
to increase clearance, you could move the lights one bay inboard from the
tip.
Don
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:27 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Duckworks with tip tanks
Does anybody who is using HID lights in the leading edge have tip tanks? Is
there any concern about a fuel leak causing problems with electricity in
that area? There is power in the wingtip anyway, and at the heated pitot
anyway, and the wings are not sealed anyway, but just wanted to see what
opinions there were out there on this issue.
Does anybody know what Vic had for landing lights? I know he had the
SafeAir tip tanks.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Silpruf Window installation |
Fred,
We bought 5 tubes and used 3 1/2. The final step was done several months
after the first, so one of the partially used tubes was wasted.
I get SilPruf from a company called Lowry's in Hayward, CA:
http://www.halowry.com. Late last year it was about $6/tube.
Les posted a better link to the video in another message:
http://tinyurl.com/2ndhr9
Here are some pictures. The black all blends together so one picture is
edited and labled so you can see the different parts. Real lilfe looks more
like the unlabled picture.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Williams,
M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Silpruf Window installation
--> <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
Dave;
Thanks for the write up on the windows. It looks like a good product after
reading the data sheet.
Three questions. , one request.
1. how many tubes does one need for doing the 4 windows?
2. best price /supplier to purchase?
3. I couldn't get the link to work for the video.
4. could you provide a close up picture of the finished edge?
Thanks.
Fred Williams
40515
Starting door fit
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| Subject: | Silpruf window installation |
Dave, Les and Rick.
Thanks for the information and pics. Zooming in on the pics gives
enough detail to see how the bead lines up on the outside. I think
with your help I can make it look good. I ordered 4 tubes from
Technology LK for $67. Now if I could quit this day job and get back to
work. How did they ever build an airplane before the internet? Musta
been real men and real airplanes.
Thanks
Fred Williams
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| Subject: | Silpruf Window installation |
Dave,
I would also like to throw in my thank you for sharing.
This discussion has been centered around using SilPruf on the side windows.
Did you also use it on the windscreen?Vern Smith (#324 lost some where bet
ween the fuselage and finishing)
> From: Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: RE:
RV10-List: Silpruf Window installation> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:41:31 -08
00> > Fred,> > We bought 5 tubes and used 3 1/2. The final step was done se
veral months> after the first, so one of the partially used tubes was waste
d.> > I get SilPruf from a company called Lowry's in Hayward, CA:> http://w
ww.halowry.com. Late last year it was about $6/tube.> > Les posted a better
link to the video in another message:> http://tinyurl.com/2ndhr9> > Here a
re some pictures. The black all blends together so one picture is> edited a
nd labled so you can see the different parts. Real lilfe looks more> like t
he unlabled picture.> > Dave Saylor> AirCrafters LLC> 140 Aviation Way> Wat
sonville, CA > 831-722-9141> 831-750-0284 CL> www.AirCraftersLLC.com> >
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| Subject: | Silpruf Window installation |
Vern,
I installed the windshield per the plans, then overlaid a thin fiberglass
layup over the exposed bond at the joggle. The edge is painted gloss black
to match the other windows.
The windsheild could be installed with SilPruf but it would require quite a
bit of rework in order to create a joggle along the bottom edge. I wasn't
quite prepared to do that. Maybe next time. The results would be very
similar to the other windows.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Smith
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:53 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Silpruf Window installation
Dave,
I would also like to throw in my thank you for sharing.
This discussion has been centered around using SilPruf on the side windows.
Did you also use it on the windscreen?
Vern Smith (#324 lost some where between the fuselage and finishing)
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> From: Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Silpruf Window installation
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:41:31 -0800
>
> Fred,
>
> We bought 5 tubes and used 3 1/2. The final step was done several months
> after the first, so one of the partially used tubes was wasted.
>
> I get SilPruf from a company called Lowry's in Hayward, CA:
> http://www.halowry.com. Late last year it was about $6/tube.
>
> Les posted a better link to the video in another message:
> http://tinyurl.com/2ndhr9
>
> Here are some pictures. The black all blends together so one picture is
> edited and labled so you can see the different parts. Real lilfe looks
more
> like the unlabled picture.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters LLC
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA
> 831-722-9141
> 831-750-0284 CL
> www.AirCraftersLLC.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Duckworks with tip tanks |
comment about moving the lights one bay in, on the Duckworks web page they suggest
not moving it in. am i confused?? [Question]
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| Subject: | Garmin WAAS GPS Pricing |
I recently added a $200 Garmin GPS unit to one of my trucks. Model
Garmin 200W (W=Widescreen)
Today I received a promotional email describing the Gamin 250W which is
still considered a "budget" GPS with an Street Price of $279.00
In looking at the specifics of this unit I noticed the receiver is
described as:
Receiver: high-sensitivity WAAS-enabled GPS receiver
Now how much was the WAAS upgrade on the Garmin 430's & 530's again?
Robin
Do Not Archive
The nuvi 250W ships with pre-loaded NAVTEQ maps of the United States,
Canada, and Puerto Rico, has a 4.3-inch color touch screen display,
turn-by-turn guidance, 6 million Points of Interest (POI) database,
photo viewer, calculator, currency converter, unit converter, and a
world clock.
* Receiver: high-sensitivity WAAS-enabled GPS receiver (SiRF for
now, although Garmin says that might change in the future)
* Display: 3.81"W x 2.25"H (9.7 x 5.7 cm); 4.3" diag (10.9 cm),
480 x 272 pixels; WQVGA color TFT with white backlight
* Unit dimensions: 4.8"W x 2.9"H x .8"D (12.2 x 7.4 x 2.0 cm)
* Weight: 6.1 ounces (172.93 g)
* Battery: Rechargeable lithium-ion battery, up to 5 hours of
battery life depending on use
* Includes Garmin Lock(tm), an anti-theft feature
* Pre-loaded with NAVTEQ maps (City Navigator North America NT
2008) of the US, Canada, & Puerto Rico
* 6 Millions Points of Interest (POI) database
* Upload custom POIs, including alerts for speed zones and safety
cameras with POI Loader
* Built in Travel Kit includes picture viewer, world clock,
currency and measurement converters, calculator and more
* SD card slot
* USB interface for loading data
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin WAAS GPS Pricing |
Aviation is the main operative word here, of course, but there is also
the database and added functionality of the W version of the 430 and
530 to include the vertical navigation information that the standard
versions didn't have. Oh, and the upgrade to an old unit is now $3K.
OUCH!
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Feb 13, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> I recently added a $200 Garmin GPS unit to one of my trucks. Model
> Garmin 200W (W=Widescreen)
> Today I received a promotional email describing the Gamin 250W which
> is still considered a =93budget=94 GPS with an Street Price of $279.00
> In looking at the specifics of this unit I noticed the receiver is
> described as:
>
> Receiver: high-sensitivity WAAS-enabled GPS receiver
>
> Now how much was the WAAS upgrade on the Garmin 430=92s & 530=92s
again?
>
> Robin
> Do Not Archive
> The nuvi 250W ships with pre-loaded NAVTEQ maps of the United
> States, Canada, and Puerto Rico, has a 4.3-inch color touch screen
> display, turn-by-turn guidance, 6 million Points of Interest (POI)
> database, photo viewer, calculator, currency converter, unit
> converter, and a world clock.
>
> Receiver: high-sensitivity WAAS-enabled GPS receiver (SiRF for now,
> although Garmin says that might change in the future)
> Display: 3.81"W x 2.25"H (9.7 x 5.7 cm); 4.3" diag (10.9 cm), 480 x
> 272 pixels; WQVGA color TFT with white backlight
> Unit dimensions: 4.8"W x 2.9"H x .8"D (12.2 x 7.4 x 2.0 cm)
> Weight: 6.1 ounces (172.93 g)
> Battery: Rechargeable lithium-ion battery, up to 5 hours of battery
> life depending on use
> Includes Garmin Lock=99, an anti-theft feature
> Pre-loaded with NAVTEQ maps (City Navigator North America NT 2008)
> of the US, Canada, & Puerto Rico
> 6 Millions Points of Interest (POI) database
> Upload custom POIs, including alerts for speed zones and safety
> cameras with POI Loader
> Built in Travel Kit includes picture viewer, world clock, currency
> and measurement converters, calculator and more
> SD card slot
> USB interface for loading data
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin WAAS GPS Pricing |
I use a bluetooth 20 channel WAAS/EGNOS GPS receiver with my PDA
running Anywhere map. The GPS cost me around $90. Normally sees 8-12
satellites with under 2 meter position uncertainty. Generally within
10-20 ft of field elevation at my airport. Of course only for
entertainment value flying, not approved for anything.
On Feb 13, 2008 5:05 PM, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
>
>
> I recently added a $200 Garmin GPS unit to one of my trucks. Model Garmin
> 200W (W=Widescreen)
>
> Today I received a promotional email describing the Gamin 250W which is
> still considered a "budget" GPS with an Street Price of $279.00
>
> In looking at the specifics of this unit I noticed the receiver is described
> as:
>
>
> Receiver: high-sensitivity WAAS-enabled GPS receiver
>
>
> Now how much was the WAAS upgrade on the Garmin 430's & 530's again?
>
>
> Robin
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> The nuvi 250W ships with pre-loaded NAVTEQ maps of the United States,
> Canada, and Puerto Rico, has a 4.3-inch color touch screen display,
> turn-by-turn guidance, 6 million Points of Interest (POI) database, photo
> viewer, calculator, currency converter, unit converter, and a world clock.
>
> Receiver: high-sensitivity WAAS-enabled GPS receiver (SiRF for now, although
> Garmin says that might change in the future)
> Display: 3.81"W x 2.25"H (9.7 x 5.7 cm); 4.3" diag (10.9 cm), 480 x 272
> pixels; WQVGA color TFT with white backlight
> Unit dimensions: 4.8"W x 2.9"H x .8"D (12.2 x 7.4 x 2.0 cm)
> Weight: 6.1 ounces (172.93 g)
> Battery: Rechargeable lithium-ion battery, up to 5 hours of battery life
> depending on use
> Includes Garmin Lock, an anti-theft feature
> Pre-loaded with NAVTEQ maps (City Navigator North America NT 2008) of the
> US, Canada, & Puerto Rico
> 6 Millions Points of Interest (POI) database
> Upload custom POIs, including alerts for speed zones and safety cameras with
> POI Loader
> Built in Travel Kit includes picture viewer, world clock, currency and
> measurement converters, calculator and more
> SD card slot
> USB interface for loading data
>
>
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| Subject: | Shameless For-Profit Promotion of New RV-10 Products |
We've posted a few new products on our web site specifically for RV-10s:
http://www.aircraftersllc.com/products.htm
Please call or email with any questions!
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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