---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/02/08: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:23 AM - Re: Engine Iso Mounts () 2. 06:02 AM - Re: counter sinking canopy holes (Lew Gallagher) 3. 06:09 AM - Re: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set (dougpflyrv@aol.com) 4. 06:17 AM - Re: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set (Lew Gallagher) 5. 07:27 AM - fuel pressure (David McNeill) 6. 07:59 AM - Re: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set (Lew Gallagher) 7. 08:58 AM - Re: counter sinking canopy holes (Jay Rowe) 8. 09:13 AM - trash in the tanks (David McNeill) 9. 09:17 AM - trash in the tanks correction (David McNeill) 10. 10:25 AM - Re: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set (Pascal) 11. 12:53 PM - Re: fuel pressure (Tim Olson) 12. 03:02 PM - Re: counter sinking canopy holes (John Ackerman) 13. 04:06 PM - Re: counter sinking canopy holes (Patrick Pulis) 14. 04:56 PM - Jacking up the -10 (rv10builder) 15. 05:36 PM - Re: Jacking up the -10 (Tim Olson) 16. 06:13 PM - Re: Jacking up the -10 (rv10builder) 17. 06:24 PM - Re: Jacking up the -10 (Jesse Saint) 18. 06:45 PM - FW: counter sinking canopy holes (McGANN, Ron) 19. 06:47 PM - Re: Jacking up the -10 (Tim Olson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:29 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Iso Mounts Take a punch and drive the pin out. Not needed on the RV-10. Jim C (N40192) =========================================================== From: Robert Wright Subject: RV10-List: Engine Iso Mounts Tried an engine hanging today. My boss mounts each have a roll pin in the hole that each iso mount fits over to ensure correct orientation when installing. However, my iso mounts from Van's do not have the corresponding hole for the pin to sit in. Which is right, the boss mount or the iso mount? I notice that the plans (FFWD page 4 or 5?) show the hole as empty, but we know that the pictures are not always accurate. Rob Wright #392 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:39 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: counter sinking canopy holes From: "Lew Gallagher" Hey John, Tool sharing?!!! What an awesome offer! Please put us on the list. Thanks, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Landing gear installed, we're mobile! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167228#167228 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set From: dougpflyrv@aol.com I FINALLY RECEIVED THE KIT AFTER A FEW MONTHS. I WAS SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE EMAIL INSTRUCTIONS WHICH HAVE NOT SHOWN UP YET.....THAT HAS BEEN 2 MONTHS OR LONGER. GOOD LUCK. D. PRESTON BHM DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: Pascal Sent: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:52 pm Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set certainly there must be someone who has the Rivethead aero door guide installed.. Thoughts? Thanks! Pascal ----- Original Message ----- From: Pascal Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:48 PM Subject: RV10-List: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set I am looking for real world feedback on the door guide and pin set. Nice video but hear it doesn't fit as well once the rubber seal is installed around doors. Thanks! Pascal href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:07 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set From: "Lew Gallagher" Hey Robin, Thanks for the door pictures. We just installed the hinges yesterday. Even trying to pay attention to the unique orientation, I still managed to get one set on reversed fore and aft! Here's a couple of questions: 1) It looks on one picture that you have weather stripping installed? Still fit? I had thought of temporarily attaching the weather strip with something less sticky than "Gorilla Snot" to get the fit right before final installing. Weather strip goes on after painting? 2) Did you just drill and tap the canopy hinge to attach the covers? I had thought of using the scrap fiberglass from the window cutouts instead of metal. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Landing gear installed, we're mobile! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167231#167231 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:48 AM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: fuel pressure Just finished the testing of the fuel sensors , EIS 6000 calibration and the test of the boost pump. The display show only 1.2 psi but the Chelton shows 12 PSI. What PSI are we supposed to see for the Van's injection boost pump? BTW I suggest pouring some mineral spirits or Av gas through the tanks and draining through the sump before connecting to your fuel lines and boost pump. It took four flushes of the right QB tank and two flushes of the left tank before there were no contaminants showing. Otherwise the proseal fragments and other debris just collects on the screens and fuel filter. It requires two -8D caps to seal the ends of the tanks. Also when bending the wire for the floats be sure to get the piece that penetrates the float bent at a right angle. If the angle is slightly acute it can bind and cause the float to stick at empty. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:28 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set From: "Lew Gallagher" Here's a little before and after I did just now while waiting for the wife to get more beautiful. I'm thinking that for sorta a lock, instead of leaving the "button" sticking out on the outside to push in to release it, I might shave it off so that it's recessed, weld a cap on it, and then you can insert any key, etc. in it to depress it. Not much, but somewhat of a deterrent -- and more aerodynamic, weather tight. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Landing gear installed, we're mobile! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167247#167247 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/handle_984.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:55 AM PST US From: "Jay Rowe" Subject: Re: RV10-List: counter sinking canopy holes John. I'll contact you off line, and, of course will forward the cutter to the next guy on the list. I used the Hooker belts. I also modified the system, as has others, such that the rear shoulder belts are connected to the canopy just like the front shoulder belts. You, of course, have to make hard points in the canopy but that is very easy especially if the canopy is not on the plane yet. And if you locate those hard points in the right location the Hooker rear shoulder belts fit perfectly without modification (something that I didn't do so I had to add some length to the harness). And thanks for the tool sharing---very cool. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: John Ackerman To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:15 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: counter sinking canopy holes Jay, Avery in Texas has that countersink. You're welcome to use mine, providing you pass it on to another builder when you're done... Contact me offline if you'd like. do not archive John Ackerman 40458 PS what belts did you get? What are the alternatives? PPS Where is all the traffic on the list - It's been scary quiet the last few days.. On Mar 1, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Jay Rowe wrote: Just now installing the seat belts and I need to countersink the canopy for the large screws that hold the shoulder harness in place. I don't have, nor can I find, a large enough countersink cutter to do the job. Any suggestions? Jay Rowe http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 3/1/2008 5:41 PM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:46 AM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: trash in the tanks obviously an orange bucket with three gallons of AV gas and the residue at the bottom. IIRC this was the second flush of the right QB tank. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:10 AM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: trash in the tanks correction -----Original Message----- From: David McNeill [mailto:dlm46007@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: trash in the tanks obviously an orange bucket with one gallon of mineral spirit and the residue at the bottom. IIRC this was the second flush of the right QB tank. AV gas works but the blue dye makes spotting the debris more difficult unless in direct sunlight. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:36 AM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set Thanks Robin, not hearing any complaints it actually great feedback. Thanks! Pascal To be clear I know RH Aero takes months so since I am months away I know I should order them now if I want them by Christmas ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin Marks To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rivethead Door Guide and Pin set Pascal, ours work great but the engine was just hung and the front windscreen has not been installed. Same with the prop, spinner, cowl. Not really real world feedback but the best I can do. Robin http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Doors.htm ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:53:55 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: fuel pressure You should be able to get up in the 30's with the boost pump on. You probably have a scale factor wrong on the EIS6000. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive David McNeill wrote: > Just finished the testing of the fuel sensors , EIS 6000 calibration and > the test of the boost pump. The display show only 1.2 psi but the > Chelton shows 12 PSI. What PSI are we supposed to see for the Van's > injection boost pump? BTW I suggest pouring some mineral spirits or Av > gas through the tanks and draining through the sump before connecting to > your fuel lines and boost pump. It took four flushes of the right QB > tank and two flushes of the left tank before there were no contaminants > showing. Otherwise the proseal fragments and other debris just collects > on the screens and fuel filter. It requires two -8D caps to seal the > ends of the tanks. Also when bending the wire for the floats be sure to > get the piece that penetrates the float bent at a right angle. If the > angle is slightly acute it can bind and cause the float to stick at empty. > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:30 PM PST US From: John Ackerman Subject: RV10-List: Re: counter sinking canopy holes Lew, I suggested that it be passed on from builder to builder. I think Jay is passing it to "Barry in FL. " I suggest contacting either of them, because I don't know where it's going once past Deems and Jay. Best John 40458 On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:59 AM, Lew Gallagher wrote: > > Hey John, > > Tool sharing?!!! What an awesome offer! Please put us on the list. > > Thanks, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Landing gear installed, we're mobile! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167228#167228 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:06:49 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: counter sinking canopy holes From: "Patrick Pulis" ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:56:49 PM PST US From: rv10builder Subject: RV10-List: Jacking up the -10 Hey all, I'm trying to figure out the best way to jack up my 99% completed -10 so that I can complete the fitting of the main gear fairings. Suggestions? I've got a harbor freight nearby... Thanks, Brian 40308 Main gear fairings then inspection! ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:36:06 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Jacking up the -10 May as well do it right and prepare for years of future maintenance... http://www.myrv10.com/tips/generaltips.html#Jacking_the_RV-10 I just used mine this weekend, because the last flight I did had 4" of snow on field that wasn't plowed....and I had to dig it all out of the wheel fairings this weekend. Basically, all of the fairing that wasn't occupied by tire, was occupied by snow. Amazing how much came out. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive rv10builder wrote: > > Hey all, > > I'm trying to figure out the best way to jack up my 99% completed -10 so > that I can complete the fitting of the main gear fairings. > Suggestions? I've got a harbor freight nearby... > > Thanks, > > Brian > 40308 > Main gear fairings then inspection! > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:42 PM PST US From: rv10builder Subject: Re: RV10-List: Jacking up the -10 Very nice Tim! So I can assume you were using the tie down ring locations under the wing as the jack point? I was concerned that it may not be strong enough, but it sounds like like a non-issue. Thanks! Brian Tim Olson wrote: > > > May as well do it right and prepare for years of future maintenance... > http://www.myrv10.com/tips/generaltips.html#Jacking_the_RV-10 > > I just used mine this weekend, because the last flight I did had > 4" of snow on field that wasn't plowed....and I had to dig it all > out of the wheel fairings this weekend. Basically, all of the > fairing that wasn't occupied by tire, was occupied by snow. Amazing > how much came out. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > rv10builder wrote: >> >> Hey all, >> >> I'm trying to figure out the best way to jack up my 99% completed -10 >> so that I can complete the fitting of the main gear fairings. >> Suggestions? I've got a harbor freight nearby... >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brian >> 40308 >> Main gear fairings then inspection! >> > > > . > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:00 PM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Jacking up the -10 We built a set like Tim's and they work great. Make sure you have a head that goes on the top of the jack that will allow it to swivel a little bit so you don't put undue side loads on the tie down bases. I talked to Van's and they said this is the preferred way to jack it up. Also, the same jack is a great way to hold up the tail without the engine installed. As Tim said, you will use these in the future for maintenance. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Mar 2, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > > May as well do it right and prepare for years of future maintenance... > http://www.myrv10.com/tips/generaltips.html#Jacking_the_RV-10 > > I just used mine this weekend, because the last flight I did had > 4" of snow on field that wasn't plowed....and I had to dig it all > out of the wheel fairings this weekend. Basically, all of the > fairing that wasn't occupied by tire, was occupied by snow. Amazing > how much came out. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > rv10builder wrote: >> > >> Hey all, >> I'm trying to figure out the best way to jack up my 99% completed >> -10 so that I can complete the fitting of the main gear fairings. >> Suggestions? I've got a harbor freight nearby... >> Thanks, >> Brian >> 40308 >> Main gear fairings then inspection! > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:55 PM PST US Subject: FW: RV10-List: counter sinking canopy holes From: "McGANN, Ron" Forwarded second attempt from Patrick: Hi there John, could you please indicate the part number for the countersink available from Avery as I would like to obtain one to be sent downunder. Regarding harnesses, I have just purchased a set colour matched to my seats from Hookers, they are great, albiet a little pricey, but well worth the money. Regards Patrick Pulis #40299 VH-XPP Adelaide, South Australia "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. 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I was concerned that it may > not be strong enough, but it sounds like like a non-issue. > > Thanks! > > Brian > > Tim Olson wrote: >> >> >> May as well do it right and prepare for years of future maintenance... >> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/generaltips.html#Jacking_the_RV-10 >> >> I just used mine this weekend, because the last flight I did had >> 4" of snow on field that wasn't plowed....and I had to dig it all >> out of the wheel fairings this weekend. Basically, all of the >> fairing that wasn't occupied by tire, was occupied by snow. Amazing >> how much came out. >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >> do not archive >> >> >> rv10builder wrote: >>> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> I'm trying to figure out the best way to jack up my 99% completed -10 >>> so that I can complete the fitting of the main gear fairings. >>> Suggestions? I've got a harbor freight nearby... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Brian >>> 40308 >>> Main gear fairings then inspection! >>> >> >> >> >> >> . >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.