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1. 03:35 AM - Re: OSH (Bob Leffler)
2. 04:53 AM - Re: OSH (Tim Olson)
3. 05:12 AM - Shoulder harnesses (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
4. 05:15 AM - Camping gear (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
5. 05:26 AM - Re: Camping gear (Phillips, Jack)
6. 05:50 AM - Re: Camping gear (Tim Olson)
7. 06:11 AM - Re: OSH (linn Walters)
8. 06:34 AM - Re: Shoulder harnesses (Bob Leffler)
9. 06:36 AM - Re: Camping gear (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
10. 06:43 AM - Re: OSH (John Jessen)
11. 07:00 AM - Re: Re: Lower Cowl Mounts (Tim Olson)
12. 07:20 AM - Re: OSH (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
13. 07:27 AM - Re: Camping gear (Pascal)
14. 07:32 AM - Re: Camping gear (Dave Leikam)
15. 09:23 AM - Re: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
16. 11:13 AM - Re: Camping gear (johngoodman)
17. 11:18 AM - Re: OSH (johngoodman)
18. 12:00 PM - Re: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint (gary)
19. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: Camping gear ()
20. 01:03 PM - Re: Another lesson with windows (eagerlee)
21. 01:37 PM - Re: Lower Cowl Mounts (McGANN, Ron)
22. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: Camping gear (John W. Cox)
23. 03:55 PM - SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues (Robin Marks)
24. 04:38 PM - Re: SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues (Carl Froehlich)
25. 05:36 PM - Re: SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues (Robin Marks)
26. 06:00 PM - Re: SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues (PJ Seipel)
27. 06:40 PM - Death of Van's Kit 40322 (Rene)
28. 06:54 PM - Re: Death of Van's Kit 40322 (Rick Sked)
29. 06:59 PM - Re: SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues (Robin Marks)
30. 07:01 PM - Re: Death of Van's Kit 40322 (Robin Marks)
31. 07:20 PM - Re: Death of Van's Kit 40322 (Jesse Saint)
32. 07:44 PM - to Sun-N-Fun (Robert Wright)
33. 07:58 PM - Re: Death of Van's Kit 40322 (Rene)
34. 09:13 PM - First FlightRigging Questions (Rene)
35. 09:13 PM - Re: Death of Van's Kit 40322 (Steven DiNieri)
36. 10:42 PM - LoPresti Speed mods e-mail (johngoodman)
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I was able to rent a trailer from Van Boxtel. They will deliver it from
Green Bay to Osh for an additional fee. http://www.vanboxtelrv.com/ Their
RVs (4 wheel kind) are a little expensive ($1,700) for the week, but their
tent campers and travel trailers were reasonable.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of neil
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH
Hi Guys
My wife & I are hoping to be at Osh for the first time this year.
However, for weight reasons we are not able to bring any camping gear. We
would love to stay on the field with everyone else, rather than a hotel
miles away (probably fully booked by now anyhow). Does any one know how we
could hire a tent or something for a couple of days? We plan on arriving on
the Monday, but have to leave Thurs AM. I presume there is somewhere to
wash, & I'm sure food won't be a problem.
We are really looking forward to meeting so many of you that we have emailed
/ talked to over the last year or so.
Neil & Sarah
ZK-RVT
On 6 Mar 2008, at 17:00, Bob Leffler wrote:
Yes, there should be a large contingent of us there. Bob and Gary have
already started talking about RV-10 HQ 2008. Hopefully they'll get there
early and stake out our sites again this year. I'm sure there will also be
a few in airplane parking.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:04 PM
Subject: RV10-List: OSH
We have decided to camp at OSH this year. Are any plans developing to get
spots in Camp Scholler or park the 10s together in airplane camping?
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This year I plan to at least get my camping spot on the weekend before,
if not the Friday before....adding a couple more days to the total
that I have to pay. I'd rather get great spots and be close to the
action than see everything too spread out. I'll probably do this
regardless of what the rest of the group decides, because I know that
when it comes to forking over $40-80 extra bucks there will be a few
who won't want that. But, I will also be willing to reserve some
sites early for a few people too. So we may end up with a situation
where we are split into a couple of sections. I'd just rather have
that than have us scattered around too far. As far as plans
go though, even April is a bit early to begin headcounts...since there's
really nothing that can be done with the EAA too far ahead. OSH is
at the end of July, so as long as we can get people fired up around
June 1, we should be good.
Neil, I'm pretty sure between the gang we can get you a tent and/or
a site. I even have an extra 5 or 7 person tent....a really big one,
that I could bring if need be. You'd end up reserving a single
site for it, which will cost more than the tent itself. But as
Bob L. pointed out, if you want more comfort you can rent campers
too. We'll help you out. If you want a camper, you may want to start
making arrangements early. For those with their own, not much to
do for a while.
Tim Olson
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Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
> Gary and I plan on doing essentially the same thing as last year, only
> question is exactly what day well claim our ground. The past couple
> of years weve gotten the sites on the Tuesday before opening weekend.
> For some reason last year there were a lot more people there early and
> combined with the 20 or so RV-10 spots, we wound up with the spread out
> a little. After we get into April Ill take a poll and then post
> exactly what were doing.
>
>
>
> Bob
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> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David McNeill
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:04 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: OSH
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>
>
> We have decided to camp at OSH this year. Are any plans developing to
> get spots in Camp Scholler or park the 10s together in airplane camping?
>
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| Subject: | Shoulder harnesses |
Remind me what the motivation is to create new hardpoints on the
fiberglass for rear seat harnesses, instead of following the plans
method?
TDT
40025
Tim Dawson-Townsend
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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Neil & Sarah:
One option would be to visit the Wal-Mart store near the field and buy
yourselves a cheap tent for $50, and a couple sleeping pads and sheets
for another $45. (Probably no need for sleeping bags in an Oshkosh
summer!)
Then just give them away to someone when it's time to leave . . .
TDT
40025
Hi Guys
My wife & I are hoping to be at Osh for the first time this year.
However, for weight reasons we are not able to bring any camping gear.
We would love to stay on the field with everyone else, rather than a
hotel miles away (probably fully booked by now anyhow). Does any one
know how we could hire a tent or something for a couple of days? We
plan on arriving on the Monday, but have to leave Thurs AM. I presume
there is somewhere to wash, & I'm sure food won't be a problem.
We are really looking forward to meeting so many of you that we have
emailed / talked to over the last year or so.
Neil & Sarah
ZK-RVT
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Or go to the UPS store on the field at OSH and ship them to your home.
It might also be possible to ship comaping gear to OSH and pick it up
when you arrive. I usually just ship it to a friend who lives within
driving distance of OSH and he shows up with my gear and his and we camp
together
Jack Phillips
# 610
Still waiting on the wing kit to arrive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:11 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Camping gear
Neil & Sarah:
One option would be to visit the Wal-Mart store near the field and buy
yourselves a cheap tent for $50, and a couple sleeping pads and sheets
for another $45. (Probably no need for sleeping bags in an Oshkosh
summer!)
Then just give them away to someone when it's time to leave . . .
TDT
40025
Hi Guys
My wife & I are hoping to be at Osh for the first time this year.
However, for weight reasons we are not able to bring any camping gear.
We would love to stay on the field with everyone else, rather than a
hotel miles away (probably fully booked by now anyhow). Does any one
know how we could hire a tent or something for a couple of days? We
plan on arriving on the Monday, but have to leave Thurs AM. I presume
there is somewhere to wash, & I'm sure food won't be a problem.
We are really looking forward to meeting so many of you that we have
emailed / talked to over the last year or so.
Neil & Sarah
ZK-RVT
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| Subject: | Re: Camping gear |
Neil's from New Zealand....not much financial benefit to shipping
anything. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Phillips, Jack wrote:
> Or go to the UPS store on the field at OSH and ship them to your home.
> It might also be possible to ship comaping gear to OSH and pick it up
> when you arrive. I usually just ship it to a friend who lives within
> driving distance of OSH and he shows up with my gear and his and we camp
> together
>
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>
> Jack Phillips
>
> # 610
>
> *Still* waiting on the wing kit to arrive
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:11 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Camping gear
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>
> Neil & Sarah:
>
>
>
> One option would be to visit the Wal-Mart store near the field and buy
> yourselves a cheap tent for $50, and a couple sleeping pads and sheets
> for another $45. (Probably no need for sleeping bags in an Oshkosh summer!)
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> Then just give them away to someone when its time to leave . . .
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> TDT
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> 40025
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> Hi Guys
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> My wife & I are hoping to be at Osh for the first time this year.
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> However, for weight reasons we are not able to bring any camping gear.
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> We would love to stay on the field with everyone else, rather than a
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> hotel miles away (probably fully booked by now anyhow). Does any one
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> know how we could hire a tent or something for a couple of days? We
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> plan on arriving on the Monday, but have to leave Thurs AM. I presume
>
> there is somewhere to wash, & I'm sure food won't be a problem.
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> We are really looking forward to meeting so many of you that we have
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> emailed / talked to over the last year or so.
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> Neil & Sarah
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You should be able to ship all your camping stuff to OSH ..... and ship
it home through whatever address OSH uses. I'd call EAA to get the real
scoop!!! If that freight company isn't available, maybe one of the
local guys can handle it for you. Tip well, though!!! :-D
Linn
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neil wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> My wife & I are hoping to be at Osh for the first time this year.
>
> However, for weight reasons we are not able to bring any camping gear.
> We would love to stay on the field with everyone else, rather than a
> hotel miles away (probably fully booked by now anyhow). Does any one
> know how we could hire a tent or something for a couple of days? We
> plan on arriving on the Monday, but have to leave Thurs AM. I presume
> there is somewhere to wash, & I'm sure food won't be a problem.
>
> We are really looking forward to meeting so many of you that we have
> emailed / talked to over the last year or so.
>
> Neil & Sarah
> ZK-RVT
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| Subject: | Shoulder harnesses |
For belts like: http://www.inertialbelts.com/
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:08 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Shoulder harnesses
Remind me what the motivation is to create new hardpoints on the fiberglass
for rear seat harnesses, instead of following the plans method?
TDT
40025
Tim Dawson-Townsend
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Subject: | Re: Camping gear |
I think "ZK" is a long way to ship any gear either way...when you get to
KOSH, there are stores near by where you can go, buy a tent etc., heck you can
even take the bus to the NE corner and get off and walk through the security
fence...walk about two blocks to a strip mall, buy all you need including a
cooler and carry cart etc., and load it on the bus and make the trip back to the
camp ground or camp with a friend...the items you'll need are not very
expensive. The weather is usually hot and muggy in years past there have been
some interesting thunderstorms in the area. So don't camp in a low area...I've
been going to KOSH off and on since the 70's...been hot, buggy, cold and
wet--and that was just one day and enjoyed every second of being there.
Visit EAA's web site and you'll be briefed on what's there. The stuff sold
in the EAA stores is a bit expensive compared to local vendors but you don't
need to go off site to get some staples...there are bathrooms and shower
houses but you'll need your own kit. Don't leave anything valuable unattended
as
things have a way at walking at KOSH. They do have security, but this is a
public event and they do not have security like an airport. I think it's a
good safe place but when you're with the public you don't want to leave your
valuables in a tent and wonder. My son had his I-Pod go missing a few years
ago from our tent and the person left our rain fly open after robbing us only
to have a huge thunderstorm fill our tent and camping gear, making for a
soggy, wet night at Camp Stoller.
The area is huge, you can easily walk several miles from one end to the
other (they do have some transportation aides and buses) and with 100,000 or more
people per day going in and out it's occasionally a bit crazy.
I don't know how others feel, but the food on the grounds is just OK, some
aircraft clubs have dinners--book in advance, one EAA chapter has a pancake
breakfast, at the seaplane basin is a great fish fly--I believe you can get
tickets a head of time--the fried Perch is outstanding. You'll have a great
time, it's the best place to meet and talk aviation. Most don't make it to the
EAA Museum but since it's your first time going--please make a point to go
over to the museum...believe it or not the EAA HQ/Museum is not near the
convention...you've got to go look for it.
If you've involved in a local Chapter, and your president is not attending,
they can name you as there rep and you can be named to attend several closed
meeting for Chapter Presidents. But once again it needs to happen a head of
time...and I'm sure the RV group will help you in anyway they can...
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I think this year may be my first trip to OSH, as well. If someone is
starting a list, please add my name. Not sure who else will join me at this
point. Also, not sure how I'm arriving, whether by land or air, but will be
camping.
John J
40328
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| Subject: | Re: Lower Cowl Mounts |
This is passed on from Vic as a reply...
From: Vicsyracuse
I read the archives, but don't have time to monitor the list. Sorry. But
I saw your question. I used the skybolt fasteners top and sides, and 5
#8 screws with tinnerman washers on the bottom on both sides of the air
exit area. I did my rv-6 this way, and am doing the RV-7 the same. I
used .063 for the aluminum on the 10, but am using .050 on the 7.
Vic
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William Curtis wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>> did anyone use camlocks for the bottom cowling mounts?
>> Michael
>
> I am. Two per side on a 0.63 base. Four of each of the below:
>
> 244-16 Floting Receptacle 2.89
> 4002-4 Camloc Stud 2.45
> 4002-O Camloc Grommet 1.53
> R4G Snap Rings 0.20
>
> I used these on the horizontal sides of my Cardinal to replace the SouthCo fasteners
and I like them a lot. Not enough however to use them in place of the
hinges on the 10 except on the cowl bottom.
>
> The above prices are from Spruce, however if you go to OSH or Sun-N-Fun you can
get them at the Aeromart for less. If you want to pay even more you can get
the adjustable receptacle version but since the -4 stud will fit the thickness
range of our cowling, I don't see any reason to use them.
>
> William
> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
> "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and
those who matter don't mind."
> -- Dr. Suess
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As Tim has said, I'm a quick drive from OSH (live up by Appleton) and will be
down there most of the week this year. If any -10 builders want to ship anything
in advance, they are welcome to ship it to me and I can bring it down. Just
contact me off list.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH
You should be able to ship all your camping stuff to OSH ..... and ship
it home through whatever address OSH uses. I'd call EAA to get the real
scoop!!! If that freight company isn't available, maybe one of the
local guys can handle it for you. Tip well, though!!! :-D
Linn
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neil wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> My wife & I are hoping to be at Osh for the first time this year.
>
> However, for weight reasons we are not able to bring any camping gear.
> We would love to stay on the field with everyone else, rather than a
> hotel miles away (probably fully booked by now anyhow). Does any one
> know how we could hire a tent or something for a couple of days? We
> plan on arriving on the Monday, but have to leave Thurs AM. I presume
> there is somewhere to wash, & I'm sure food won't be a problem.
>
> We are really looking forward to meeting so many of you that we have
> emailed / talked to over the last year or so.
>
> Neil & Sarah
> ZK-RVT
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| Subject: | Re: Camping gear |
or someone can let Neil borrow an extra one from last year that wasn't
given away ;-)
If I could find a way out there I would certainly bring a couple of
tents (they are small enough) and let someone borrow or have it. Also
consider many may think the same way and Walmart will be out of tents..
than what? I personally would not feel comfortable "winging it", but may
be a non issue if one is there early..
I will say Walmart does have great tents. I have done better in rain
with my Walmart than my Coleman ever did..
Pascal
wish I could go but have no way to get there ;-(
----- Original Message -----
From: Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:10 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Camping gear
Neil & Sarah:
One option would be to visit the Wal-Mart store near the field and buy
yourselves a cheap tent for $50, and a couple sleeping pads and sheets
for another $45. (Probably no need for sleeping bags in an Oshkosh
summer!)
Then just give them away to someone when it's time to leave . . .
TDT
40025
Hi Guys
My wife & I are hoping to be at Osh for the first time this year.
However, for weight reasons we are not able to bring any camping gear.
We would love to stay on the field with everyone else, rather than a
hotel miles away (probably fully booked by now anyhow). Does any one
know how we could hire a tent or something for a couple of days? We
plan on arriving on the Monday, but have to leave Thurs AM. I presume
there is somewhere to wash, & I'm sure food won't be a problem.
We are really looking forward to meeting so many of you that we have
emailed / talked to over the last year or so.
Neil & Sarah
ZK-RVT
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| Subject: | Re: Camping gear |
I have a couple of sleeping pads and small tent, you can use for the
week. Just let me know if you need them and I will meet you at OSH with
them.
Dave Leikam
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----- Original Message -----
From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Camping gear
I think "ZK" is a long way to ship any gear either way...when you get
to KOSH, there are stores near by where you can go, buy a tent etc.,
heck you can even take the bus to the NE corner and get off and walk
through the security fence...walk about two blocks to a strip mall, buy
all you need including a cooler and carry cart etc., and load it on the
bus and make the trip back to the camp ground or camp with a
friend...the items you'll need are not very expensive. The weather is
usually hot and muggy in years past there have been some interesting
thunderstorms in the area. So don't camp in a low area...I've been
going to KOSH off and on since the 70's...been hot, buggy, cold and
wet--and that was just one day and enjoyed every second of being there.
Visit EAA's web site and you'll be briefed on what's there. The stuff
sold in the EAA stores is a bit expensive compared to local vendors but
you don't need to go off site to get some staples...there are bathrooms
and shower houses but you'll need your own kit. Don't leave anything
valuable unattended as things have a way at walking at KOSH. They do
have security, but this is a public event and they do not have security
like an airport. I think it's a good safe place but when you're with
the public you don't want to leave your valuables in a tent and wonder.
My son had his I-Pod go missing a few years ago from our tent and the
person left our rain fly open after robbing us only to have a huge
thunderstorm fill our tent and camping gear, making for a soggy, wet
night at Camp Stoller.
The area is huge, you can easily walk several miles from one end to
the other (they do have some transportation aides and buses) and with
100,000 or more people per day going in and out it's occasionally a bit
crazy.
I don't know how others feel, but the food on the grounds is just OK,
some aircraft clubs have dinners--book in advance, one EAA chapter has a
pancake breakfast, at the seaplane basin is a great fish fly--I believe
you can get tickets a head of time--the fried Perch is outstanding.
You'll have a great time, it's the best place to meet and talk aviation.
Most don't make it to the EAA Museum but since it's your first time
going--please make a point to go over to the museum...believe it or not
the EAA HQ/Museum is not near the convention...you've got to go look for
it.
If you've involved in a local Chapter, and your president is not
attending, they can name you as there rep and you can be named to attend
several closed meeting for Chapter Presidents. But once again it needs
to happen a head of time...and I'm sure the RV group will help you in
anyway they can...
Patrick
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| Subject: | Shoulder Harness Hardpoint |
Yep, we are talking about adding additional hardpoints in the rear just forward
of the rear bulkhead cover to support a different mounting point for the rear
seat belts.
In my caser the reason for not using the factory location back in the tailcone
is twofold. The first reason is because I will probably be using David's Amsafe
or similar retractable belts for at least the rear seat passengers. The
second is my hat shelf project eliminated the ability to run back to the longeron
points.
So just so we are clear, we are not talking about the factory hardpoint in the
top, we are talking about ADDING harpoints. You can see David's approach at
the link below. I believe he worked with some pretty smart guys in developing
his method so my question is more to help me understand the rationale behind
doing the work on the inside rather than the outside.
http://www.inertialbelts.com/
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint
FWIW I agree with Gary 100%. The area is already beefed up and if I
remember correctly the points were solid glass with no foam. I was starting
to wonder if folks were talking about additional points for a different
harness system. Provided that's not the case, I think the structure is good
to go as is.
Marcus
40286
Just about to hit 250 hours and loving it.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint
I think that we are missing the engineering that went into the design of the
hard point built into the current structure. Typically the foam is removed
in the area around the hole and filled with reinforcing material like
chopped fiber or flox. This is the same thing that the Glasair folks do.
This structure is sufficient to hold the shoulder harness.
Additionally, fiberglass structures are meant to flex long before they
break. Remember the wing on the Voyager during take off. By putting a
metal washer on the outside of the structure you are creating a failure
point at the outer edge. Think of it like this. If you took a one foot
long tube and slid it over your fiberglass/graphite fishing rod and flexed
it close to the failure point, it would fail prematurely at the end of the
tube because it was not allowed to flex inside the tube.
IMHO no additional structure is needed for the harness.
Gary
40274
It is all together, now what?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
I talked to my TC a while back about this subject and while he isn't a
composite guy, he thought that it made more sense to make the hardpoint on
the exterior or the cabin top. I planned to look into it more once I got to
that point but this seems to be a good time to discuss.
So what do the composite guys like Gary and Dave think? In adding a hard
point for seatbelts to the canopy should it be from the inside or outside?
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Marz
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:47 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint
I am wondering if the hard-point for the shoulder harness connection
needs to be reinforced or have a washer added on top, so it will work
when needed. Any thoughts?
Barry Marz
18735 Baseleg AVE.
FT. Myers, Fl 33917
239-567-2271
blalmarz@embarqmail.com
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> I don't know how others feel, but the food on the grounds is just OK,
That's the truth! I finally gave up last year and drove out for every meal.
John
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Yes,
I'll be camping at Sun 'n fun this year. I plan on showing up the first day (or
the evening before) and setting up a tent. Will have my truck there as well.
Setting up a corral would be great and I'd be glad to help stake it out if anyone
is interested.
John
[quote="pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth."]Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> Yes, there should be a large contingent of us there. Bob and Gary have already
started talking about RV-10 HQ 2008. Hopefully theyll get there early and
stake out our sites again this year. Im sure there will also be a few in airplane
parking.
>
Sun-N-Fun in Lakeland is coming up next month ...... anyone doing a corral for
that???
Linn
do not archive
> [b]
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| Subject: | Shoulder Harness Hardpoint |
The approach David used looks sound to me. I think that he worked on the
inside because it is more forgiving of the additional layers of glass he
used to cover the hard points. The head liner will not show those
additional layers he used to connect all the hard points.
Gary
40274
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:19 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Yep, we are talking about adding additional hardpoints in the rear just
forward of the rear bulkhead cover to support a different mounting point for
the rear seat belts.
In my caser the reason for not using the factory location back in the
tailcone is twofold. The first reason is because I will probably be using
David's Amsafe or similar retractable belts for at least the rear seat
passengers. The second is my hat shelf project eliminated the ability to
run back to the longeron points.
So just so we are clear, we are not talking about the factory hardpoint in
the top, we are talking about ADDING harpoints. You can see David's
approach at the link below. I believe he worked with some pretty smart guys
in developing his method so my question is more to help me understand the
rationale behind doing the work on the inside rather than the outside.
http://www.inertialbelts.com/
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint
FWIW I agree with Gary 100%. The area is already beefed up and if I
remember correctly the points were solid glass with no foam. I was starting
to wonder if folks were talking about additional points for a different
harness system. Provided that's not the case, I think the structure is good
to go as is.
Marcus
40286
Just about to hit 250 hours and loving it.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint
I think that we are missing the engineering that went into the design of the
hard point built into the current structure. Typically the foam is removed
in the area around the hole and filled with reinforcing material like
chopped fiber or flox. This is the same thing that the Glasair folks do.
This structure is sufficient to hold the shoulder harness.
Additionally, fiberglass structures are meant to flex long before they
break. Remember the wing on the Voyager during take off. By putting a
metal washer on the outside of the structure you are creating a failure
point at the outer edge. Think of it like this. If you took a one foot
long tube and slid it over your fiberglass/graphite fishing rod and flexed
it close to the failure point, it would fail prematurely at the end of the
tube because it was not allowed to flex inside the tube.
IMHO no additional structure is needed for the harness.
Gary
40274
It is all together, now what?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
I talked to my TC a while back about this subject and while he isn't a
composite guy, he thought that it made more sense to make the hardpoint on
the exterior or the cabin top. I planned to look into it more once I got to
that point but this seems to be a good time to discuss.
So what do the composite guys like Gary and Dave think? In adding a hard
point for seatbelts to the canopy should it be from the inside or outside?
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Marz
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:47 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Shoulder Harness Hardpoint
I am wondering if the hard-point for the shoulder harness connection
needs to be reinforced or have a washer added on top, so it will work
when needed. Any thoughts?
Barry Marz
18735 Baseleg AVE.
FT. Myers, Fl 33917
239-567-2271
blalmarz@embarqmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Camping gear |
I can tell you that thanks to Brenda, Susan, Andrea, and several other spouses
that I can't remember their names, the folks at RV-10 HQ ate quite well most of
the week.
If you like corn, you were in heaven, thanks to Adrian.
>
> From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
> Date: 2008/03/06 Thu PM 02:08:20 EST
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Camping gear
>
>
>
> > I don't know how others feel, but the food on the grounds is just OK,
>
>
> That's the truth! I finally gave up last year and drove out for every meal.
>
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
> N711JG reserved
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another lesson with windows |
I got 99% iso alcohol from Safeway Supermarket pharmacy shelves.
Paul Hahn
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| Subject: | Lower Cowl Mounts |
Has anyone tried stainless steel piano hinge on the lower cowl rather
than the standard aluminium ones? If not, I will give it a try.
Cheers,
Ron
Finshing the cowl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DejaVu
Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2008 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lower Cowl Mounts
Hey who's using hinges for the lower cowl?! Don't do it. Actually, I'm
chiming in late but seems like most folks are aware of this issue.
Hinges were not a problem in my -6. They did not last past 5 hours in
the -10.
They eyelets broke one at a time. Just on the left side. I replaced
that side with nutplates/screws then the other side started to break,
one eyelet at a time. Eventually I fixed both sides. I made the plates
out of the old instrument panel. Didn't need shims since the hinge
halves lined up in the first place. I didn't want to patch up the
existing holes on the cowl where the rivets used to be so I used six #8
nutplates/screws per side, with C/S washers. Very solid as you would
imagine.
Anh
N591VU - flying
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lower Cowl Mounts
>
>
>
> Scott here's a link to 2 photos (click next to see the 2nd)
>
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2047%20Spinner%20and%20Cowling/slides/DSC
04175.html
> I've since trimmed the inside portion of the 'flange' so that it
doesn't
> stick out and interfere with the air exiting the lower cowl. (A John
Cox
> suggestion)
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
> Scott Schmidt wrote:
<scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
>>
>> Can someone point me to some photos. This is a modification I would
like
>> to make. I've already lost 2 eyelets.
>> Scott Schmidt
>> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>>
>> I made mine out of .063 aluminum, I think I used #8, three per side.
>>
>> Rick Sked
>> 40185
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 8:33:55 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lower Cowl Mounts
>>
>>
>> Not countersunk screws....round head screws. Yes,
>> they're holding up great for people, and there are
>> some now that I know personally (I'll let them speak up
>> if they wish) who didn't install them until after they
>> had issues with the hinges. But, there really are
>> no problems with nutplates and screws...it's really
>> secure.
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>
>>
>>
>> Vernon Smith wrote:
>> Looking through some of the old postings, I found some discussion on
>> replacing the lower cowl mounts with nutplates and screws. Are these
>> modified mounts still holding up well during flight? Also were #10
>> countersunk screws and nut plates used? And finally what was the
mounting
>> plate made from?
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Vern Smith (#324)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Camping gear |
I for one found the friendliness of the group and the quality of food
beyond question. I concur that the EAA provided vending choices "On
Campus" to be only OK. So I concluded this comment was not the ladies
of RV-10 HQ but rather the high priced, mediocre concessionaires.
I too ate most breakfasts and most dinners off campus. The only
consistent exception was a soft ice-cream cone each afternoon and a trip
with friends to the trunk of my car where I had an iced stash of bottle
water and YES, cold Wisconsin suds and other sundry Air Show watching
food products. Those of you who rallied round the trunk know that I
have dialed in OSH.
Several of the EAA local chapters in our area chose to rendezvous each
night at a quality restaurant around the greater OSH area. Often that
locale can be far south as Fond du Lac or up into Appleton. The Warbird
crowd I have been seen slumming with, tends to pillage the local
restaurants around the UW-Oshkosh campus. We might just start a list of
twenty of the best restaurants found.
Each year the internet connection capability improves substantially.
Why I can even remember when there was no McDonalds on the grounds.
Years ago there used to be a Walmart right up the street. It is now
closed but the next closest one is about 20 miles south of RV-10
Headquarters on the West side of State Highway 41 (which is right
outside the front entrance). It is where that water, beer and sundry
items are acquired. As Mike Sausen can tell you, I ship ahead all my
clothing inside a large cooler. The cooler gets immediately converted
upon touchdown in Wisconsin.
Bob & Bob & Tim, I for one have appreciated your efforts... And you too
Michael.
John Cox
#40600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
rv@thelefflers.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Camping gear
I can tell you that thanks to Brenda, Susan, Andrea, and several other
spouses that I can't remember their names, the folks at RV-10 HQ ate
quite well most of the week.
If you like corn, you were in heaven, thanks to Adrian.
>
> From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
> Date: 2008/03/06 Thu PM 02:08:20 EST
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Camping gear
>
<johngoodman@earthlink.net>
>
>
> > I don't know how others feel, but the food on the grounds is just
OK,
>
>
> That's the truth! I finally gave up last year and drove out for every
meal.
>
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
> N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues |
Dear list,
My -10 build includes the SJ Cowl and a Hartzell BA prop. My
understanding is that the James Cowl requires a 14" spinner. I know that
Deems and others with the James Cowl are using different props that seem
to ship with the spinner. Nice for them!
I have sourced a Hartzell A-2297 metal spinner which Hartzell
says is 13.9" x 17.6". I am not sure what I am more surprised about
Hartzell not having a single photo, rendering or dimensional drawing /
spec sheet on the spinner or that they want either side of $2,000 for
the spinner. (Polished $2,073, unpolished $1,791). Geeeez
Is there anyone out there using the James cowl/Hartzell BA
combination that has solved this issue already?
BTW I have contacted Whirl Wind, Aero Composites & UHS and none
of them have, make or sell spinners for this application.
Thanks,
Robin
RV-10
Plenum attached
Cowl on its way
Panel on its way
Bankruptcy on its way
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| Subject: | SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues |
I contacted Hartzell and they confirmed the A-2297 is the right spinner for
the Van's BA Hartzell prop and the Sam James cowl.
I purchased a new polished Hartzell A-2297 spinner for $885 from Mustang
Aeronautics. The unpolished version is $785. Here is the contact
information:
Chris Tieman
Mustang Aeronautics, Inc.
1470 Temple City
Troy, MI 48084
(248) 649-6818
www.MustangAero.com
Carl Froehlich
RV-10 (wings)
RV-8A (400 hrs)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 6:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues
Dear list,
My -10 build includes the SJ Cowl and a Hartzell BA prop. My
understanding is that the James Cowl requires a 14" spinner. I know that
Deems and others with the James Cowl are using different props that seem
to ship with the spinner. Nice for them!
I have sourced a Hartzell A-2297 metal spinner which Hartzell
says is 13.9" x 17.6". I am not sure what I am more surprised about
Hartzell not having a single photo, rendering or dimensional drawing /
spec sheet on the spinner or that they want either side of $2,000 for
the spinner. (Polished $2,073, unpolished $1,791). Geeeez
Is there anyone out there using the James cowl/Hartzell BA
combination that has solved this issue already?
BTW I have contacted Whirl Wind, Aero Composites & UHS and none
of them have, make or sell spinners for this application.
Thanks,
Robin
RV-10
Plenum attached
Cowl on its way
Panel on its way
Bankruptcy on its way
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| Subject: | SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues |
Carl,
Have you received the spinner and if so how is the fit at the
root of the prop? The spinner looks kind of pointy from what I can tell
from the photos on Chris' site.
Do you have any photos of the spinner/cowl combination? I see
you are on your wings so my guess is that you haven't purchased the cowl
or the prop yet.
Robin
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues |
Yeah, buy it from Mustang Aeronautics. I paid $885 + shipping for the
polished version. Best price I could find.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
Carl Froehlich wrote:
>
> I contacted Hartzell and they confirmed the A-2297 is the right spinner for
> the Van's BA Hartzell prop and the Sam James cowl.
>
> I purchased a new polished Hartzell A-2297 spinner for $885 from Mustang
> Aeronautics. The unpolished version is $785. Here is the contact
> information:
> Chris Tieman
> Mustang Aeronautics, Inc.
> 1470 Temple City
> Troy, MI 48084
> (248) 649-6818
> www.MustangAero.com
>
> Carl Froehlich
> RV-10 (wings)
> RV-8A (400 hrs)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 6:50 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues
>
>
> Dear list,
> My -10 build includes the SJ Cowl and a Hartzell BA prop. My
> understanding is that the James Cowl requires a 14" spinner. I know that
> Deems and others with the James Cowl are using different props that seem
> to ship with the spinner. Nice for them!
> I have sourced a Hartzell A-2297 metal spinner which Hartzell
> says is 13.9" x 17.6". I am not sure what I am more surprised about
> Hartzell not having a single photo, rendering or dimensional drawing /
> spec sheet on the spinner or that they want either side of $2,000 for
> the spinner. (Polished $2,073, unpolished $1,791). Geeeez
> Is there anyone out there using the James cowl/Hartzell BA
> combination that has solved this issue already?
> BTW I have contacted Whirl Wind, Aero Composites & UHS and none
> of them have, make or sell spinners for this application.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
> RV-10
> Plenum attached
> Cowl on its way
> Panel on its way
> Bankruptcy on its way
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Death of Van's Kit 40322 |
I am glade to announce that today kit 40322 died and in its place N423CF
arose.
Yes, first flight was today. Very exciting and a real milestone. Did not
fly hands off, heavy left wing.......gives me something to work on.
Rene'
N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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| Subject: | Re: Death of Van's Kit 40322 |
Congrats Rene'
In the future please try not to use "Died" in place of anything...
Rick Sked
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 6:35:20 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Death of Van's Kit 40322
I am glade to announce that today kit 40322 died and in its place N423CF
arose.
Yes, first flight was today. Very exciting and a real milestone. Did not
fly hands off, heavy left wing.......gives me something to work on.
Rene'
N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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| Subject: | SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues |
His price has increased to $915.00 plus shipping for the polished which
is still a heck of a lot better than $2,100.00
Thanks,
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PJ Seipel
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues
Yeah, buy it from Mustang Aeronautics. I paid $885 + shipping for the
polished version. Best price I could find.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
Carl Froehlich wrote:
<carl.froehlich@cox.net>
>
> I contacted Hartzell and they confirmed the A-2297 is the right
spinner for
> the Van's BA Hartzell prop and the Sam James cowl.
>
> I purchased a new polished Hartzell A-2297 spinner for $885 from
Mustang
> Aeronautics. The unpolished version is $785. Here is the contact
> information:
> Chris Tieman
> Mustang Aeronautics, Inc.
> 1470 Temple City
> Troy, MI 48084
> (248) 649-6818
> www.MustangAero.com
>
> Carl Froehlich
> RV-10 (wings)
> RV-8A (400 hrs)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 6:50 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: SJ Cowl, BA Prop and Spinner Issues
>
>
> Dear list,
> My -10 build includes the SJ Cowl and a Hartzell BA prop. My
> understanding is that the James Cowl requires a 14" spinner. I know
that
> Deems and others with the James Cowl are using different props that
seem
> to ship with the spinner. Nice for them!
> I have sourced a Hartzell A-2297 metal spinner which Hartzell
> says is 13.9" x 17.6". I am not sure what I am more surprised about
> Hartzell not having a single photo, rendering or dimensional drawing /
> spec sheet on the spinner or that they want either side of $2,000 for
> the spinner. (Polished $2,073, unpolished $1,791). Geeeez
> Is there anyone out there using the James cowl/Hartzell BA
> combination that has solved this issue already?
> BTW I have contacted Whirl Wind, Aero Composites & UHS and none
> of them have, make or sell spinners for this application.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
> RV-10
> Plenum attached
> Cowl on its way
> Panel on its way
> Bankruptcy on its way
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Death of Van's Kit 40322 |
Long live N423CF. Way to go Rene'
Robin
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Death of Van's Kit 40322 |
Congratulations! Any pictures?
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 6, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Rene wrote:
>
> I am glade to announce that today kit 40322 died and in its place
> N423CF
> arose.
>
> Yes, first flight was today. Very exciting and a real milestone.
> Did not
> fly hands off, heavy left wing.......gives me something to work on.
>
> Rene'
> N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
>
>
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Anyone going to Sun-N-Fun through coastal Georgia please stop by KLHW near Savannah
and let's have lunch!
http://airnav.com/airport/KLHW
It's public use, though. NO PPR!
If I get some interest I'll ask to see if the FBO will give some sort of fuel discount
for Sun-N-Fun goers.
If nothing else, we're having a fly-in 26 April.
This is a new joint-use facility between the Army and the county based at the aged
Wright Army Airfield.
Rob Wright
#392
Finish and FFWD as parts come in
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| Subject: | Death of Van's Kit 40322 |
This is my favorite picture. The ground crew did a great job at making
sure
everything was working right.....pictures, not so much. But I have not
seen
them all yet......
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Death of Van's Kit 40322
Congratulations! Any pictures?
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 6, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Rene wrote:
>
> I am glade to announce that today kit 40322 died and in its place
> N423CF
> arose.
>
> Yes, first flight was today. Very exciting and a real milestone.
> Did not
> fly hands off, heavy left wing.......gives me something to work on.
>
> Rene'
> N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
>
>
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| Subject: | First FlightRigging Questions |
OK, need some opinions........
I was very excited about my first flight today, but did have a heavy wing
and used a lot of nose down trim. It had me concerned. So tonight I went
through the archives and I think I have it figured out....
Heavy wing, single pilot and.......only used right fuel tank during first
flight. Not planning on switching tanks until the second flight. At the
end of the flight I had a full left tank and ~ 15 gallons in the right tank.
Can this type of in-balance lead to a very heavy left wing? Trim could not
correct it.
Elevator trim, needed to use a lot of nose down trim? At takeoff I added
about 1 second, maybe two of trim. Also had almost full nose down trim
during cruse. Is this normal? During transition training I don't remember
using as much.
After the flight, we went back over the elevator trim adjustment and it is
per plans...35degrees.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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| Subject: | Re: Death of Van's Kit 40322 |
awesome.. congrats..
steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Death of Van's Kit 40322
This is my favorite picture. The ground crew did a great job at making sure
everything was working right.....pictures, not so much. But I have not seen
them all yet......
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Death of Van's Kit 40322
Congratulations! Any pictures?
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 6, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Rene wrote:
>
> I am glade to announce that today kit 40322 died and in its place
> N423CF
> arose.
>
> Yes, first flight was today. Very exciting and a real milestone.
> Did not
> fly hands off, heavy left wing.......gives me something to work on.
>
> Rene'
> N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
>
>
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| Subject: | LoPresti Speed mods e-mail |
I have received an e-mail from LoPresti's web site that has absolutely locked up
my mail program. It wants a user name and password that I don't even know. It
won't let me get back to my inbox.
A curse on his site!!!!!!
John
--------
#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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