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1. 05:03 AM - Re: Re: 90 Degree Oil Filter Housing (Rob Kermanj)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Mark Ritter (Jesse Saint)
3. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: 90 Degree Oil Filter Housing (Kelly McMullen)
4. 08:32 AM - Re: Electric/Gas Tows (curtis groote)
5. 08:33 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Corrosion, with visual aid (nicholscatoauto@aol.com)
6. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: 90 Degree Oil Filter Housing (Rob Kermanj)
7. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: 90 Degree Oil Filter Housing (Kelly McMullen)
8. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas (Chuck Weyant)
9. 10:10 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Corrosion, with visual aid (Jeff Carpenter)
10. 10:41 AM - Re: RV-10 missing in Texas (John Jessen)
11. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas (bruce breckenridge)
12. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas (Pascal)
13. 11:56 AM - Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (Chris)
14. 12:25 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (Tim Olson)
15. 12:32 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (John Gonzalez)
16. 12:33 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (Rick Sked)
17. 12:54 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
18. 12:57 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (Rick Sked)
19. 12:57 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (Jesse Saint)
20. 01:00 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (Chris Johnston)
21. 01:57 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (Tim Olson)
22. 02:31 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (Rene Felker)
23. 03:10 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (John Gonzalez)
24. 03:19 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (William Curtis)
25. 05:50 PM - Performance of Hartzell Blended Airfoil (Chuck Weyant)
26. 06:20 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Corrosion (Bob-tcw)
27. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas ()
28. 07:24 PM - Re: Performance of Hartzell Blended Airfoil (Jesse Saint)
29. 07:34 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
30. 08:06 PM - Hartzell blended airfoil performance (Chuck Weyant)
31. 08:10 PM - Re: Performance of Hartzell Blended Airfoil (Chuck Weyant)
32. 08:12 PM - Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? (David McNeill)
33. 09:13 PM - Door fit (Robert Wright)
34. 09:30 PM - Re: Hartzell blended airfoil performance (Robin Marks)
35. 09:50 PM - Re: Door fit (McGANN, Ron)
36. 10:11 PM - Re: Door fit (Deems Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: 90 Degree Oil Filter Housing |
I have one on mine with 310 hrs on the plane. What do you need to know?
The breather tube has to be talked to in order to clear the filter.
Otherwise, nothing else to worry about.
I drain my oil overnight and have zero drip when I remove the filter
the next day.
Rob.
On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> Anyone considered the 45 degree adapter ECI sells?
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:20 PM, dmaib@mac.com <dmaib@mac.com> wrote:
>
> I have not done the crankcase vent line yet. The engine is hanging
> on the hoist in my hangar. Probably won't mount it for another
> couple of weeks.
> Thanks for the responses on the spacer. Sounds like the 1.5 is the
> right one.
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169073#169073
>
>
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My thoughts and prayers are also with Mark's family.
Yes, Mark did offer to take me to Texas BBQ and actually treated my
family and I to it when we visited him and Bobby Hughes just under a
year ago.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:44 AM, Jerry Stark wrote:
> I met Mark a number years ago. He was an example of what EAA was
> about. He shared his building experiences, his goals, and his
> successes and his redoes. His work was meticulous. His enthusiasm
> was always present.
>
> Yes I am a lurker and social security keeps me from jumping on the
> "I got to build one". I have been lurking since day one of the forum.
>
> I did not know Mark that well. I flew to Lockhart a number of times.
> He was a little shy early in his build about posting ( My opinion )
> but his work was very detailed. He opened up once he got flying (my
> opinion ). I stopped to see him in Lockhart a few times and after
> he was flying, he was usually flying to Brenham to eat lunch, he
> loved the blue bell icecream.
>
> I also remember his offer to Jesse Saint to take him to Texas BBQ if
> he came to Texas. He was a generous man and I am sorry not to be
> able to interact with again.
>
> God bless the survivors! his Family and friends. It was a torturous
> weekend.
>
> This forum is generally very informative. There are times when it
> becomes a " I got to talk to somebody" thing, but I so enjoy it.
>
> God Bless all of us; our time is temporary, make the most of it.
> Some one said " we aren't here for a long time, we are here for a
> good time."
>
> God Bless Mark and his family. May the rest of us enjoy his life as
> much as he did.
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: 90 Degree Oil Filter Housing |
Great. Exactly what I wanted to know. Looks like the tach drive might
be a bit tight. I gather there is no issue with the engine mount or
cowling clearance.
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have one on mine with 310 hrs on the plane. What do you need to know?
>
> The breather tube has to be talked to in order to clear the filter.
> Otherwise, nothing else to worry about.
>
> I drain my oil overnight and have zero drip when I remove the filter the
> next day.
>
> Rob.
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Anyone considered the 45 degree adapter ECI sells?
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:20 PM, dmaib@mac.com <dmaib@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have not done the crankcase vent line yet. The engine is hanging on the
> hoist in my hangar. Probably won't mount it for another couple of weeks.
> > Thanks for the responses on the spacer. Sounds like the 1.5 is the right
> one.
> >
> > --------
> > David Maib
> > RV-10 #40559
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169073#169073
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Electric/Gas Tows |
Last summer I researched several aircraft tugs and
winches. The -10 was too much for me to get out of
the hangar let alone getting it back in up an incline.
I didn't want an electric cord to deal with and
wasn't enamored with starting a gas engine in the
winter. Initially I thought about the Powertow EZ40
but after sending in measurements twice along with at
least five subsequent phone calls and making no
progress over a month's time, I decided to shop
elsewhere. What I have now is an Aero-Tow E-200.
Terry was extremely easy and pleasant to deal with and
made the adaptors for the -10 without any fuss. The
unit trickle charges so it's always ready and does
what I need it to do.
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Corrosion, with visual aid |
While we are on the fuel tank topic John Cox brings up a good point about alcohol
and its effects on proseal. I am about 4 weeks away from starting my fuel tanks
and would really like to build the entire fuel system to accept a moderate
amount of alcohol, say 10%.? Is anybody else taking a proactive approach to
possibly using fuel with alcohol in it. Not that I would use it as a general rule
but it would always be an option if needed. If anyone has any insight or thoughts
fire away.
Jeff Nichols
40648
-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Sent: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 7:43 pm
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Corrosion, with visual aid
One of the premises yet to be answered is how does "my beloved proseal"
hold up to adulterated corn squeezing inside the fuel tank. I would
love for the discussion to get elevated as to which components need to
be replaced to embrace subsidizing American Farmers instead of
importation of $110+ per barrel crude and amplify our balance of trade
deficit to Third World Tycoons.
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| Subject: | Re: 90 Degree Oil Filter Housing |
The tach drive is indeed very close but I can't tell you how close,
based on my memory. Of course, if you are using any kind of glass
panel, you will not need the tach cable.
If you need to know how close they are, I will have to look when I
take the cowl off. Let me know.
There are no issues with the mount or cowl. You will need the 1.5
inch spacer for the adopter.
Rob
On Mar 12, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Great. Exactly what I wanted to know. Looks like the tach drive might
> be a bit tight. I gather there is no issue with the engine mount or
> cowling clearance.
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I have one on mine with 310 hrs on the plane. What do you need to
>> know?
>>
>> The breather tube has to be talked to in order to clear the filter.
>> Otherwise, nothing else to worry about.
>>
>> I drain my oil overnight and have zero drip when I remove the
>> filter the
>> next day.
>>
>> Rob.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>> Anyone considered the 45 degree adapter ECI sells?
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:20 PM, dmaib@mac.com <dmaib@mac.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have not done the crankcase vent line yet. The engine is hanging
>>> on the
>> hoist in my hangar. Probably won't mount it for another couple of
>> weeks.
>>> Thanks for the responses on the spacer. Sounds like the 1.5 is the
>>> right
>> one.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> David Maib
>>> RV-10 #40559
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169073#169073
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 90 Degree Oil Filter Housing |
Thanks. That covers all I need to know.
Rob Kermanj wrote:
>
> The tach drive is indeed very close but I can't tell you how close,
> based on my memory. Of course, if you are using any kind of glass
> panel, you will not need the tach cable.
>
> If you need to know how close they are, I will have to look when I
> take the cowl off. Let me know.
>
> There are no issues with the mount or cowl. You will need the 1.5
> inch spacer for the adopter.
>
> Rob
>
> On Mar 12, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
>>
>> Great. Exactly what I wanted to know. Looks like the tach drive might
>> be a bit tight. I gather there is no issue with the engine mount or
>> cowling clearance.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have one on mine with 310 hrs on the plane. What do you need to
>>> know?
>>>
>>> The breather tube has to be talked to in order to clear the filter.
>>> Otherwise, nothing else to worry about.
>>>
>>> I drain my oil overnight and have zero drip when I remove the filter
>>> the
>>> next day.
>>>
>>> Rob.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone considered the 45 degree adapter ECI sells?
> ================================================
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 missing in Texas |
do not archive
Reubanks,
I don't know about you, but after an accident I immediatley start to reflect
on the mishap. Was there anything I'd of done differently to be a safer
pilot? Maybe I don't have all the facts. Maybe I didn't even know the
pilot. But for you to attack Bruce and Becky for reminding us to "reflect
on this tradedy" is a bit emotional on your part, don't you think? So what
if the facts aren't in? They didn't accuse Mark of anything or Mark's
friends for that matter. I took it for what its worth, a reminder to stay
on the ground if you're not feeling well. Now lighten up a little and God
speed Mark.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "reubanks" <reubanks1@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas
>
> I read the post below this evening and I cant help but comment on this.
> You have no idea what Marks friends did or didnt do on the day he left
> Brenham, or for that matter what exactly was wrong with Mark. It is very
> irresponsible to make a comment like the one below. Comments like that
> are hurtful at minimum. The best any of us can do at this point is pray
> for Marks family and friends.
>
> [/quote] Mine too. I think we can all take a little time here and reflect
> on this tragedy. He wasn't feeling well ...... yet flew home. Just like
> the sage advice 'friends don't let friends drive drunk', maybe his friends
> could have prevented the tragedy by offering him a ride home, or a place
> to stay. But then maybe they wouldn't have made any difference. We'll
> never know. We've lost a fellow aviator and a beautiful airplane ......
> and that's a crying shame.
> Linn ...... :'(
>
>
>>
>> Bruce & Becky Breckenridge
>> 40018
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> [b]
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169134#169134
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Corrosion, with visual aid |
Thank you John and all who responded. I've bit the bullet. New
right fuel tank parts were ordered this morning and will ship with my
finish kit next week. I can only stand so much work with scotch
brite pads and magnifying glasses. I'm about $460 lighter in the
wallet, but I think starting over will be faster and it's hard to put
a price on peace of mind.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
Do Not Archive
On Mar 11, 2008, at 6:43 PM, John W. Cox wrote:
> <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>
> I'm undergoing knee surgery tomorrow and still a bit heavy hearted
> over
> the loss of a fellow member and what I ranked as one of the five
> prettiest RV-10s ever completed. Damn it!
>
> Aluma-prep uses acid to etch and make porous the Alclad finish.
> (and did
> you know there is a top side and bottom side finish with visible grain
> direction.) It is important in pursuit of a quality finish job that
> the
> substrate be clean before application of aluma-prep. It is
> important to
> neutralize the acid with de-ionized or distilled water. Think of the
> acid as only a catalyst. Once the reaction begins, you need to
> remediate and finish the process. The Alodine treatment is chromic
> acid
> which hardens the porous finish. The final step is to wash again with
> Non mineralized water. Often, builders use tap water and introduce
> contaminants into the chemistry. (Anyone watching all the
> pharmaceuticals being found in common tap water?) The porous
> characteristic aides in later primer or sealer application with long
> term adhesion. Remember that each side of the Alclad only has 5% pure
> aluminum to turn whitish with oxidation. (You do the math on 0.016 or
> 0.032 sheet stock). To sand, scotchbrite or acid etch it too much
> is to
> go right through to the copper hybrid under the pure aluminum. (It
> alodines differently). Most Structural Repair Manuals spell out
> replacement of base material when corrosion reaches 10% of original
> thickness. That is why as the builder, we need to create our own
> SRM and
> know the thickness of all materials we chose to use in assemblage.
> Just
> because it came from VANS does not justify guessing later. When
> corrosion is found, it must be 100% removed or just like a cavity, it
> just keeps feeding itself. If we have to remediate beyond 10%, its
> off
> for a new part(at the airlines). I don't think that is what you
> want to
> hear. We often use MEK with proper skin protection to remove
> contaminates and organics before re-alodining aluminum. Yes we do,
> re-alodine. Every exposed piece gets the treatment.
>
> One of the premises yet to be answered is how does "my beloved
> proseal"
> hold up to adulterated corn squeezing inside the fuel tank. I would
> love for the discussion to get elevated as to which components need to
> be replaced to embrace subsidizing American Farmers instead of
> importation of $110+ per barrel crude and amplify our balance of trade
> deficit to Third World Tycoons. How about our President opening
> the US
> strategic oil reserves to wipe out all of the US hedge fund investors
> who are making this situation worse by pumping up artificial demand.
>
> Fuel in the tank acts to reduce airborne oxidants but does not
> eliminate
> them. That is the old wives tale of keep tanks topped off. The ball
> will stop rolling when it is removed from the playing field. It
> doesn't
> stop on its own. Sorry.
>
> Study Intergranular and Exfoliation Corrosion.
> "http://aluminium.matter.org.uk/content/html/eng/default.asp?
> catid=180&p
> ageid=2144416690" Use at least a 5X loop or 10X loop to view the
> degree
> of corrosion remaining.
>
> John Cox
> 40600
> Pegleg Hell in Portland
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
> Carpenter
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:01 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Corrosion, with visual aid
>
> I asked this question over 24 hours ago and so far there have been no
> responses. With all that's going on with the list right now I'm
> going to repost the question, with the attached picture in the hopes
> I might get some feedback. Where's John Cox when you need him?
>
> Will the presence of fuel in the tank act as corrosion protection and
> keep this from progressing? Is this process something that stops
> when the corrosive agent (the aluma prep, or the tape) is removed or
> "used up," or is this a ball that once rolling won't stop?
>
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
> Scoth brite Hell
> Awaiting your reply
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 missing in Texas |
Chuck, and everyone else, let's stop going back and forth at one another.
Losing Mark was / is horrible, and affects each of us in different ways,
whether we knew him or just hate to see another builder gone west. It's
tough, but especially tough for Mark's family, friends, everyone. Let's be
kind to one another.
John J
PS. Chuck, for the record, Bruce and Becky weren't the ones to say "reflect
on this tragedy." That was Linn Walters. We're all trying very hard to
make something positive out of something very negative, each in his/her own
way. Let's move on.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Weyant
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas
do not archive
Reubanks,
I don't know about you, but after an accident I immediatley start to reflect
on the mishap. Was there anything I'd of done differently to be a safer
pilot? Maybe I don't have all the facts. Maybe I didn't even know the
pilot. But for you to attack Bruce and Becky for reminding us to "reflect
on this tradedy" is a bit emotional on your part, don't you think? So what
if the facts aren't in? They didn't accuse Mark of anything or Mark's
friends for that matter. I took it for what its worth, a reminder to stay
on the ground if you're not feeling well. Now lighten up a little and God
speed Mark.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "reubanks" <reubanks1@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas
>
> I read the post below this evening and I cant help but comment on this.
> You have no idea what Marks friends did or didnt do on the day he left
> Brenham, or for that matter what exactly was wrong with Mark. It is
> very irresponsible to make a comment like the one below. Comments
> like that are hurtful at minimum. The best any of us can do at this
> point is pray for Marks family and friends.
>
> [/quote] Mine too. I think we can all take a little time here and
> reflect on this tragedy. He wasn't feeling well ...... yet flew home.
> Just like the sage advice 'friends don't let friends drive drunk',
> maybe his friends could have prevented the tragedy by offering him a
> ride home, or a place to stay. But then maybe they wouldn't have made
> any difference. We'll never know. We've lost a fellow aviator and a
beautiful airplane ......
> and that's a crying shame.
> Linn ...... :'(
>
>
>>
>> Bruce & Becky Breckenridge
>> 40018
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> [b]
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169134#169134
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 missing in Texas |
Thanks Chuck. It was actually Linn's comments, but our info was still
danglin' at the bottom. I sorta thought the same thing: "uh-oh, what'd I
say?!!"
Bruce
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 missing in Texas |
I mentioned this last night that we are effected enough by this loss to
ignore Linn's thoughts. I'll take this one step further. We made comments on
the first RV-10 lost based on facts Tim provided to us on what he knew from
e-mails- we accessed how taking shortcuts is not in our best interest. In
that case there was a reason to discuss not the accident but mistakes taken
along the way.. in the case of Mark, there is nothing other than learning to
accept the loss, as hard as it is. I said it last night and I'll repeat no
one should care why Mark chose to fly home not feeling well (whatever that
meant- stomach hurt maybe.. not important) but in the loss of a beautifully
built RV-10 and builder.
Lastly, there are many forums out there where one can go and give their
right to express the freedom of speech, but I have given up on poupous
opinions on those forums for a group of builders who truly do care for each
other and keep Linn meant no wrong in his opinion and he stood by his
thoughts.. please lets stop that and focus on the loss... please..
I pray I'll make it to OSH this year so I can meet everyone there in person,
truly an exciting thought for me, even with the prospect of driving from
California with a 2 month old and 4 year old I can still get excited about
it...
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas
>
> Chuck, and everyone else, let's stop going back and forth at one another.
> Losing Mark was / is horrible, and affects each of us in different ways,
> whether we knew him or just hate to see another builder gone west. It's
> tough, but especially tough for Mark's family, friends, everyone. Let's
> be
> kind to one another.
>
> John J
>
> PS. Chuck, for the record, Bruce and Becky weren't the ones to say
> "reflect
> on this tragedy." That was Linn Walters. We're all trying very hard to
> make something positive out of something very negative, each in his/her
> own
> way. Let's move on.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Weyant
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:42 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas
>
>
> do not archive
> Reubanks,
> I don't know about you, but after an accident I immediatley start to
> reflect
> on the mishap. Was there anything I'd of done differently to be a safer
> pilot? Maybe I don't have all the facts. Maybe I didn't even know the
> pilot. But for you to attack Bruce and Becky for reminding us to "reflect
> on this tradedy" is a bit emotional on your part, don't you think? So
> what
> if the facts aren't in? They didn't accuse Mark of anything or Mark's
> friends for that matter. I took it for what its worth, a reminder to stay
> on the ground if you're not feeling well. Now lighten up a little and God
> speed Mark.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "reubanks" <reubanks1@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:32 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas
>
>
>>
>> I read the post below this evening and I cant help but comment on this.
>> You have no idea what Marks friends did or didnt do on the day he left
>> Brenham, or for that matter what exactly was wrong with Mark. It is
>> very irresponsible to make a comment like the one below. Comments
>> like that are hurtful at minimum. The best any of us can do at this
>> point is pray for Marks family and friends.
>>
>> [/quote] Mine too. I think we can all take a little time here and
>> reflect on this tragedy. He wasn't feeling well ...... yet flew home.
>> Just like the sage advice 'friends don't let friends drive drunk',
>> maybe his friends could have prevented the tragedy by offering him a
>> ride home, or a place to stay. But then maybe they wouldn't have made
>> any difference. We'll never know. We've lost a fellow aviator and a
> beautiful airplane ......
>> and that's a crying shame.
>> Linn ...... :'(
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Bruce & Becky Breckenridge
>>> 40018
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> [b]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169134#169134
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
So I am trying (again) to decide what buttons to put on my grip. If I
understand things correctly I can do the following:
Trigger - PTT
China Hat - Trim
Top Right (use toggles w/ center off, mom - on up and down): frequency
flip flop from standby on com1 (up) and com 2 (down) via SL30 and 430
Top Left (use toggles w/ center off, mom -on up and down): screen
paging on GRT1 and GRT 2 via GRT
Middle (NO 8632 push button) : Autopilot control wheel steering via
trutrak
Bottom pinky (NO 8632 push button) : swap com1 and com2 via GMA 340
Does this seem like a good setup or is it overkill with stuff I won't
use? Also does it appear to all be doable?
Thanks
Chris Lucas
#40072
electrics - cabin top - doors- overhead console - door locks - stick
grips - panel - landing gear - engine mount
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| Subject: | Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
I like it, but I don't know if I'd do the com swap on the pinky like that.
If you have audio mute-able items you may want that button for that.
It's nice to turn off bogus voice alerts without pulling your hands
off the stick. The com flip-flop should be enough on the stick
to do what you really would use.
Tim
do not archive
Chris wrote:
> So I am trying (again) to decide what buttons to put on my grip. If I
> understand things correctly I can do the following:
>
> Trigger - PTT
>
> China Hat - Trim
>
> Top Right (use toggles w/ center off, mom - on up and down): frequency
> flip flop from standby on com1 (up) and com 2 (down) via SL30 and 430
>
> Top Left (use toggles w/ center off, mom -on up and down): screen
> paging on GRT1 and GRT 2 via GRT
>
> Middle (NO 8632 push button) : Autopilot control wheel steering via trutrak
>
> Bottom pinky (NO 8632 push button) : swap com1 and com2 via GMA 340
>
> Does this seem like a good setup or is it overkill with stuff I won't
> use? Also does it appear to all be doable?
>
> Thanks
> Chris Lucas
> #40072
> electrics - cabin top - doors- overhead console - door locks - stick
> grips - panel - landing gear - engine mount
>
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| Subject: | Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
Make sure you have a heads up display with the directions on how to use the
stick. While you at it, push forward--down, Pull Back --Up and side to sid
e. Top of the list should read, Look out window and fly plane.
can't help myself.
John G.
From: toaster73@embarqmail.comTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RV10-List
: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:53:57 -0400
So I am trying (again) to decide what buttons to put on my grip. If I unde
rstand things correctly I can do the following:
Trigger - PTT
China Hat - Trim
Top Right (use toggles w/ center off, mom - on up and down): frequency flip
flop from standby on com1 (up) and com 2 (down) via SL30 and 430
Top Left (use toggles w/ center off, mom -on up and down): screen paging o
n GRT1 and GRT 2 via GRT
Middle (NO 8632 push button) : Autopilot control wheel steering via trutrak
Bottom pinky (NO 8632 push button) : swap com1 and com2 via GMA 340
Does this seem like a good setup or is it overkill with stuff I won't use?
Also does it appear to all be doable?
Thanks
Chris Lucas
#40072
electrics - cabin top - doors- overhead console - door locks - stick grips
- panel - landing gear - engine mount
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| Subject: | Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
I used the top left and right buttons for the TT Autopilot control wheel st
eering, pinky for AP disengage hat for trim, trigger for PTT. But then agai
n I have the CH grip
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:53:57 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?
So I am trying (again) to decide what buttons to put on my grip.=C2- If I
understand things correctly I can do the following:
Trigger - PTT
China Hat - Trim
Top Right (use toggles w/ center off, mom - on up and down): frequency flip
flop from standby on com1=C2-(up) and com 2 (down) via SL30 and 430
Top Left (use toggles w/ center off, mom -on up and down):=C2-=C2-scree
n paging on GRT1 and GRT 2 via GRT
Middle (NO 8632 push button)=C2-: Autopilot control wheel steering via tr
utrak
Bottom pinky (NO 8632 push button)=C2- : swap com1=C2-and com2 via GMA
340
Does this seem like a good setup or is it overkill with stuff I won't use?
Also does it appear to all be doable?
Thanks
Chris Lucas
#40072
electrics - cabin top - doors- overhead console - door locks - stick grips
- panel - landing gear - engine mount
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 missing in Texas |
A group that was over looked in this tragedy is the folks in Civil
AirPatrol, AFRCC, and local law enforcement that completed an excellent search
pattern, quickly finding this downed airman when weather permitted them to
search...I know that they are not reading this site...but a big note of thanks
for
their volunteerism on the CAP folks and the professionalism of the others. It's
just tragic that they we're not able to Mark alive.
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
I use push, houses get bigger, pull houses get smaller...for awhile, then t
hey get bigger again.
Rick Sked
40185
don not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:27:42 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?
Make sure you have a heads up display with the directions on how to use the
stick. While you at it, push forward--down, Pull Back --Up and side to sid
e. Top of the list should read, Look out window and fly plane.
=C2-
can't help myself.
=C2-
John G.
=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
From: toaster73@embarqmail.com
Subject: RV10-List: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?
So I am trying (again) to decide what buttons to put on my grip.=C2- If I
understand things correctly I can do the following:
Trigger - PTT
China Hat - Trim
Top Right (use toggles w/ center off, mom - on up and down): frequency flip
flop from standby on com1=C2-(up) and com 2 (down) via SL30 and 430
Top Left (use toggles w/ center off, mom -on up and down):=C2-=C2-scree
n paging on GRT1 and GRT 2 via GRT
Middle (NO 8632 push button)=C2-: Autopilot control wheel steering via tr
utrak
Bottom pinky (NO 8632 push button)=C2- : swap com1=C2-and com2 via GMA
340
Does this seem like a good setup or is it overkill with stuff I won't use?
Also does it appear to all be doable?
Thanks
Chris Lucas
#40072
electrics - cabin top - doors- overhead console - door locks - stick grips
- panel - landing gear - engine mount
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| Subject: | Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
I usually have the coolie hat be elevator and aileron trim, toggle for
flaps and toggle for rudder trim on the top, then side thumb button
for A/P disconnect and pinky button either momentary to acknowledge or
turn an interior light on and off.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 12, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Chris wrote:
> So I am trying (again) to decide what buttons to put on my grip. If
> I understand things correctly I can do the following:
>
> Trigger - PTT
>
> China Hat - Trim
>
> Top Right (use toggles w/ center off, mom - on up and down):
> frequency flip flop from standby on com1 (up) and com 2 (down) via
> SL30 and 430
>
> Top Left (use toggles w/ center off, mom -on up and down): screen
> paging on GRT1 and GRT 2 via GRT
>
> Middle (NO 8632 push button) : Autopilot control wheel steering via
> trutrak
>
> Bottom pinky (NO 8632 push button) : swap com1 and com2 via GMA 340
>
> Does this seem like a good setup or is it overkill with stuff I
> won't use? Also does it appear to all be doable?
>
> Thanks
> Chris Lucas
> #40072
> electrics - cabin top - doors- overhead console - door locks - stick
> grips - panel - landing gear - engine mount
>
>
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| Subject: | Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
Won't the CWS button also disengage the AP? I'm in the process of
figuring out what should control what with my stick grip.
cj
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?
I used the top left and right buttons for the TT Autopilot control wheel
steering, pinky for AP disengage hat for trim, trigger for PTT. But then
again I have the CH grip
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:53:57 AM (GMT-0800)
America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?
So I am trying (again) to decide what buttons to put on my grip. If I
understand things correctly I can do the following:
Trigger - PTT
China Hat - Trim
Top Right (use toggles w/ center off, mom - on up and down): frequency
flip flop from standby on com1 (up) and com 2 (down) via SL30 and 430
Top Left (use toggles w/ center off, mom -on up and down): screen
paging on GRT1 and GRT 2 via GRT
Middle (NO 8632 push button) : Autopilot control wheel steering via
trutrak
Bottom pinky (NO 8632 push button) : swap com1 and com2 via GMA 340
Does this seem like a good setup or is it overkill with stuff I won't
use? Also does it appear to all be doable?
Thanks
Chris Lucas
#40072
electrics - cabin top - doors- overhead console - door locks - stick
grips - panel - landing gear - engine mount
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| Subject: | Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
Yeah, they're one in the same.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Chris Johnston wrote:
> Wont the CWS button also disengage the AP? Im in the process of
> figuring out what should control what with my stick grip.
>
>
>
> cj
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| Subject: | Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
Here is what I did.
Top left -- Autopilot Disconnect
Hat -- Trim
Top Right -- Flaps
Trigger -- PTT
Middle -- Comm 1 Flip-Flop
Pinky -- Ident
Works great......for the first two hours
Rene' Felker
N423CF Flying
40322
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?
I like it, but I don't know if I'd do the com swap on the pinky like that.
If you have audio mute-able items you may want that button for that.
It's nice to turn off bogus voice alerts without pulling your hands
off the stick. The com flip-flop should be enough on the stick
to do what you really would use.
Tim
do not archive
Chris wrote:
> So I am trying (again) to decide what buttons to put on my grip. If I
> understand things correctly I can do the following:
>
> Trigger - PTT
>
> China Hat - Trim
>
> Top Right (use toggles w/ center off, mom - on up and down): frequency
> flip flop from standby on com1 (up) and com 2 (down) via SL30 and 430
>
> Top Left (use toggles w/ center off, mom -on up and down): screen
> paging on GRT1 and GRT 2 via GRT
>
> Middle (NO 8632 push button) : Autopilot control wheel steering via
trutrak
>
> Bottom pinky (NO 8632 push button) : swap com1 and com2 via GMA 340
>
> Does this seem like a good setup or is it overkill with stuff I won't
> use? Also does it appear to all be doable?
>
> Thanks
> Chris Lucas
> #40072
> electrics - cabin top - doors- overhead console - door locks - stick
> grips - panel - landing gear - engine mount
>
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| Subject: | Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
423 Charlie Fox Vegas approach, again, squawk 4363 and ident, we see you de
cending.
vegas approach 423 Charlie fox, sorry pinky and thumb had an identity crisi
s, or never mind> From: rene@felker.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subje
ct: RE: RV10-List: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:2
om>> > Here is what I did.> > Top left -- Autopilot Disconnect> Hat -- Trim
> Top Right -- Flaps> Trigger -- PTT> Middle -- Comm 1 Flip-Flop> Pinky --
Ident> > Works great......for the first two hours> > > Rene' Felker> N423CF
Flying> 40322> 801-721-6080> -----Original Message-----> From: owner-rv10-
list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Olson> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:22 PM> To: rv10-lis
t@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?> > -->
RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>> > I like it, but
I don't know if I'd do the com swap on the pinky like that.> If you have au
dio mute-able items you may want that button for that.> It's nice to turn o
ff bogus voice alerts without pulling your hands> off the stick. The com fl
ip-flop should be enough on the stick> to do what you really would use.> >
> Tim> > do not archive> > Chris wrote:> > So I am trying (again) to decide
what buttons to put on my grip. If I > > understand things correctly I can
do the following:> > > > Trigger - PTT> > > > China Hat - Trim> > > > Top
Right (use toggles w/ center off, mom - on up and down): frequency > > flip
flop from standby on com1 (up) and com 2 (down) via SL30 and 430> > > > To
p Left (use toggles w/ center off, mom -on up and down): screen > > paging
on GRT1 and GRT 2 via GRT> > > > Middle (NO 8632 push button) : Autopilot c
ontrol wheel steering via> trutrak> > > > Bottom pinky (NO 8632 push button
) : swap com1 and com2 via GMA 340> > > > Does this seem like a good setup
or is it overkill with stuff I won't > > use? Also does it appear to all be
doable?> > > > Thanks> > Chris Lucas> > #40072> > electrics - cabin top -
doors- overhead console - door locks - stick > > grips - panel - landing ge
=========> > >
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| Subject: | Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
Here is what I'm doing. CH products stick
Hat - Trim
Top right - PTT (top left on co-pilot side)
Top left - autopilot CWS (top right on co-pilot side)
pinky - comm transfer
Trigger - Multi function depending on 4 position switch (1-IDENT, 2-?, 3-?, 4-Starter)
maybe 2 will be missiles and 3 will be guns:-)
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those
who matter don't mind."
-- Dr. Suess
-------- Original Message --------
>
>
> Here is what I did.
>
> Top left -- Autopilot Disconnect
> Hat -- Trim
> Top Right -- Flaps
> Trigger -- PTT
> Middle -- Comm 1 Flip-Flop
> Pinky -- Ident
>
> Works great......for the first two hours
>
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF Flying
> 40322
> 801-721-6080
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:22 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?
>
>
> I like it, but I don't know if I'd do the com swap on the pinky like that.
> If you have audio mute-able items you may want that button for that.
> It's nice to turn off bogus voice alerts without pulling your hands
> off the stick. The com flip-flop should be enough on the stick
> to do what you really would use.
>
>
> Tim
>
> do not archive
>
> Chris wrote:
> > So I am trying (again) to decide what buttons to put on my grip. If I
> > understand things correctly I can do the following:
> >
> > Trigger - PTT
> >
> > China Hat - Trim
> >
> > Top Right (use toggles w/ center off, mom - on up and down): frequency
> > flip flop from standby on com1 (up) and com 2 (down) via SL30 and 430
> >
> > Top Left (use toggles w/ center off, mom -on up and down): screen
> > paging on GRT1 and GRT 2 via GRT
> >
> > Middle (NO 8632 push button) : Autopilot control wheel steering via
> trutrak
> >
> > Bottom pinky (NO 8632 push button) : swap com1 and com2 via GMA 340
> >
> > Does this seem like a good setup or is it overkill with stuff I won't
> > use? Also does it appear to all be doable?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Chris Lucas
> > #40072
> > electrics - cabin top - doors- overhead console - door locks - stick
> > grips - panel - landing gear - engine mount
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| Subject: | Performance of Hartzell Blended Airfoil |
I've got a chance to purchase a brand new Hartzell constant speed that's
been in the box for four years for $4,500. Standard 80" blades.
Van's has a new Hartzell prop with blended air foil type blades for
$6,300.
Anyone out there know if the difference in performance between the two
is worth the additional $2,000?
Chuck
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Corrosion |
Jeff, I visited my hangar today to inspect my wings that have beeen in
storage. I had blue painters tape on a half a dozen places directly on
the aluminum. About 3 or 4 of the locations were tape directly on aluminum
that had the alclad buffed off. The other places had tape on undisturbed
alclad. None of the places showed any sign of corrosion. I know that we
can get some very humid conditions here, particularly when we have a very
cold day, followed by a warm day. On many occasions I find my airplane
completely covered in dew from the temperature swing through the dew point.
This is particularly prevalent this time of year as we transition out of
winter.
Best regards,
Bob Newman
TCW Technologies
www.tcwtech.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 missing in Texas |
Patrick,
Yes, Actually there are CAP members among the RV-10 group.
Thanks for the compliments.
I agree they did the job they trained for.
I too feel for the lost member of our group and the family. I never had the opportunity
to meet him.
Jim C
(Cap Senior Squadron 221 in Lexington Ky)
Do not archive
===========================================================
From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 missing in Texas
A group that was over looked in this tragedy is the folks in Civil AirPatrol, AFRCC,
and local law enforcement that completed an excellent search pattern, quickly
finding this downed airman when weather permitted them to search...I know
that they are not reading this site...but a big note of thanks for their
volunteerism on the CAP folks and the professionalism of the others. It's just
tragic that they we're not able to Mark alive.
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| Subject: | Re: Performance of Hartzell Blended Airfoil |
Randy would be the person to ask this to. He has the non-BA prop
because it wasn't available when he purchased. I think he said it is
a knot to a couple of knots max difference. How much is a knot
worth? If you search the archives you should find a post from Randy
on that, if I remember correctly. Also remember that you get a new BA
for $6,300 that has just been built, hasn't been sitting in a box for
4 years.
Bottom line, there is a difference, but you would have to search the
archives to find out better info on how much unless Randy is still
reading this (he pops up his head every couple of months).
do not archive because it should all be in the archives already
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 12, 2008, at 8:48 PM, Chuck Weyant wrote:
> I've got a chance to purchase a brand new Hartzell constant speed
> that's
> been in the box for four years for $4,500. Standard 80" blades.
> Van's has a new Hartzell prop with blended air foil type blades for
> $6,300.
> Anyone out there know if the difference in performance between the two
> is worth the additional $2,000?
> Chuck
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
The really neat thing about the Infinity grip is that you can wire up each
button to do what you want it to do and not have to live with somebody else'
s
idea of which button should do what!
grumpy
do not archive
In a message dated 3/12/2008 3:59:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
Yeah, they're one in the same.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Chris Johnston wrote:
> Won=99t the CWS button also disengage the AP? I=99m in the p
rocess of
> figuring out what should control what with my stick grip.
>
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| Subject: | Hartzell blended airfoil performance |
I've got a chance to purchase a brand new Hartzell constant speed that's
been in the box for four years for $4,500. Standard 80" blades.
Van's has a new Hartzell prop with blended air foil type blades for $6,300.
Anyone out there know if the difference in performance between the two
is worth the additional $2,000?
Chuck
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| Subject: | Re: Performance of Hartzell Blended Airfoil |
Thanks Jesse, but there are those of us who haven't had much luck with
researching the archives over the years. In fact, none. This is my
second RV. Thanks for the info though.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Saint
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Performance of Hartzell Blended Airfoil
Randy would be the person to ask this to. He has the non-BA prop
because it wasn't available when he purchased. I think he said it is a
knot to a couple of knots max difference. How much is a knot worth? If
you search the archives you should find a post from Randy on that, if I
remember correctly. Also remember that you get a new BA for $6,300 that
has just been built, hasn't been sitting in a box for 4 years.
Bottom line, there is a difference, but you would have to search the
archives to find out better info on how much unless Randy is still
reading this (he pops up his head every couple of months).
do not archive because it should all be in the archives already
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 12, 2008, at 8:48 PM, Chuck Weyant wrote:
I've got a chance to purchase a brand new Hartzell constant speed
that's
been in the box for four years for $4,500. Standard 80" blades.
Van's has a new Hartzell prop with blended air foil type blades for
$6,300.
Anyone out there know if the difference in performance between the
two
is worth the additional $2,000?
Chuck
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| Subject: | Infinity Grip...am I crazy? |
So you have a button to switch from guns to missles?
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GenGrumpy@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Infinity Grip...am I crazy?
The really neat thing about the Infinity grip is that you can wire up each
button to do what you want it to do and not have to live with somebody
else's idea of which button should do what!
grumpy
do not archive
In a message dated 3/12/2008 3:59:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
Yeah, they're one in the same.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Chris Johnston wrote:
> Won't the CWS button also disengage the AP? I'm in the process of
> figuring out what should control what with my stick grip.
>
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All,
I've been looking at the way my doors fit to the canopy and am wondering, "Since
I did as good a job as I could, including clamping everything flush while the
epoxy set, then why do I have a slight bulge on one door in relation to the
canopy," and, "should everything look perfect as a result of trimming, or should
I naturally be expecting to add some filler between the canopy and doors to
make everything smooth and ready for paint?"
Reading through other websites, they're written up to seem like masters of the
fiberglass trimming, and once trimmed and glued they're ready for the paint booth
after a coat of primer on.
Thoughts and pointers?
Rob Wright
#392
starting on door hinges
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| Subject: | Hartzell blended airfoil performance |
Check,
If my math is right it's $1,800 less, not $2,000. Yes I round
everything too, round down on -10 costs for my wife and round up -10
performance for my friends. The BA is significantly faster while parked
that the square tipped Hartzell.
I THINK the TBO on the BA is 6 years. If that is the case for
the boxed prop you are you 2 years from an OH? I don't know when the
clock starts. I doubt the boxed prop is warranted anymore. If an OH is
due in 2+/- years that makes the price difference even smaller. Baring
any info suggesting the boxed prop is a better then the BA I would
purchase the new, fully warranted BA. Think of it as second guess
insurance. You know, how you may second guess your choice for the
remainder of the time you own the -10.
I have a non-BA Hartzell on my RV-6A and wish it was a brand
spankin' new BA in its place.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Weyant
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Hartzell blended airfoil performance
I've got a chance to purchase a brand new Hartzell constant speed that's
been in the box for four years for $4,500. Standard 80" blades.
Van's has a new Hartzell prop with blended air foil type blades for
$6,300.
Anyone out there know if the difference in performance between the two
is worth the additional $2,000?
Chuck
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YMMV - but ". . . should I naturally be expecting to add some filler
between the canopy and doors to make everything smooth and ready for
paint?" is where I ended up. Especially after the door seals were
installed.
cheers,
Ron
187 finishing
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Wright
Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2008 2:41 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Door fit
All,
I've been looking at the way my doors fit to the canopy and am
wondering, "Since I did as good a job as I could, including clamping
everything flush while the epoxy set, then why do I have a slight bulge
on one door in relation to the canopy," and, "should everything look
perfect as a result of trimming, or should I naturally be expecting to
add some filler between the canopy and doors to make everything smooth
and ready for paint?"
Reading through other websites, they're written up to seem like
masters of the fiberglass trimming, and once trimmed and glued they're
ready for the paint booth after a coat of primer on.
Thoughts and pointers?
Rob Wright
#392
starting on door hinges
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Rob, My experience was certainly Not ' cut/glue/hang/ it was more
like... cut/glue/hang/fill/sand/hang/fill/sand/hang/fill/sand..........
you get the picture.
http://deemsrv10.com/cabinwindowslogindex.html
I'm NO master of fiberglass / epoxy, the good news is you really
don't have to be, other than it being messy and sticky, there's not too
much you can do w/ fiberglass that can't be corrected if you goof up. In
the end (I haven't installed door seals yet ....?) I'm happy with the
fit of the doors to the cabin cover. But it took a LOT of additional
work. A lot of it depends on you own taste and preferences, Van's
fiberglass parts are not made with the same precision as the CNC metal
parts. I'm sure that they all possess the required strength to do their
respective functions. The additional work is really a mater of cosmetics
and your personal preferences.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Robert Wright wrote:
> All,
>
> I've been looking at the way my doors fit to the canopy and am
> wondering, "Since I did as good a job as I could, including clamping
> everything flush while the epoxy set, then why do I have a slight
> bulge on one door in relation to the canopy," and, "should everything
> look perfect as a result of trimming, or should I naturally be
> expecting to add some filler between the canopy and doors to make
> everything smooth and ready for paint?"
>
> Reading through other websites, they're written up to seem like
> masters of the fiberglass trimming, and once trimmed and glued they're
> ready for the paint booth after a coat of primer on.
>
> Thoughts and pointers?
> *
>
> *
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