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1. 04:25 AM - Re: window cleaning (Rob Kermanj)
2. 04:53 AM - Re: window cleaning (Tim Olson)
3. 05:15 AM - Re: window cleaning (Jesse Saint)
4. 06:32 AM - Re: window cleaning (PJ Seipel)
5. 07:15 AM - VS1016 (Chase Snodgrass)
6. 07:37 AM - Re: Door fit (Chris)
7. 08:03 AM - There was an old woman .... (Les Kearney)
8. 08:36 AM - Re: VS1016 (PJ Seipel)
9. 09:52 AM - Re: window cleaning (linn Walters)
10. 11:30 AM - eBay MT Propeller 3-Blade Constant Speed 78 inch (Robin Marks)
11. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Andair/FI Fitting (John Gonzalez)
12. 12:33 PM - Weight and B alance (gary)
13. 02:02 PM - Re: Weight and B alance (Larry Rosen)
14. 03:59 PM - Re: Andair/FI Fitting (jim berry)
15. 09:43 PM - What did I do wrong? (neil)
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| Subject: | Re: window cleaning |
Use Lemon Pledge and terry cloth sold by Sam or any towel. Works great.
Rob.
On Mar 14, 2008, at 8:46 PM, David McNeill wrote:
> What cleaners and cloths are being used to clean the windows. Its
> about time to remove the protective coverings.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: window cleaning |
While I never had problems with Pledge (pump ONLY NOT AEROSOL) on my
last plane, I've now switched exclusively to Plexus for my RV-10...
the windshield being so utterly painful to replace I figured it was
worth a couple bucks more for the care. Try skygeek.com for pricing.
I've also been exclusively using microfiber towels for the past 5 or 6
years...they're perfect for the job.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Rob Kermanj wrote:
> Use Lemon Pledge and terry cloth sold by Sam or any towel. Works great.
>
> Rob.
>
> On Mar 14, 2008, at 8:46 PM, David McNeill wrote:
>
>> What cleaners and cloths are being used to clean the windows. Its
>> about time to remove the protective coverings.
>> *
>>
>> *
>
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| Subject: | Re: window cleaning |
We also use Plexus and microfiber towels. We ALWAYS use water with
the palm of our hand to get the majority of the sand/dirt off before
using the Plexus and the towel.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 15, 2008, at 7:49 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> While I never had problems with Pledge (pump ONLY NOT AEROSOL) on my
> last plane, I've now switched exclusively to Plexus for my RV-10...
> the windshield being so utterly painful to replace I figured it was
> worth a couple bucks more for the care. Try skygeek.com for pricing.
> I've also been exclusively using microfiber towels for the past 5 or 6
> years...they're perfect for the job.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
> Rob Kermanj wrote:
>> Use Lemon Pledge and terry cloth sold by Sam or any towel. Works
>> great.
>> Rob.
>> On Mar 14, 2008, at 8:46 PM, David McNeill wrote:
>>> What cleaners and cloths are being used to clean the windows. Its
>>> about time to remove the protective coverings.
>>> *
>>>
>>> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: window cleaning |
You can get Plexus locally at any Honda or Harley Davidson motorcycle
shop. Their pricing is fairly competitive with the online shops once
you factor in shipping.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> While I never had problems with Pledge (pump ONLY NOT AEROSOL) on my
> last plane, I've now switched exclusively to Plexus for my RV-10...
> the windshield being so utterly painful to replace I figured it was
> worth a couple bucks more for the care. Try skygeek.com for pricing.
> I've also been exclusively using microfiber towels for the past 5 or 6
> years...they're perfect for the job.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
> Rob Kermanj wrote:
>> Use Lemon Pledge and terry cloth sold by Sam or any towel. Works great.
>>
>> Rob.
>>
>> On Mar 14, 2008, at 8:46 PM, David McNeill wrote:
>>
>>> What cleaners and cloths are being used to clean the windows. Its
>>> about time to remove the protective coverings.
>>> *
>>>
>>> *
>>
>
>
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Almost ready to rivet vertical stabilizer, and have a part leftover.
LOL. Where does VS1016 fit????
Chase Snodgrass
Presidio, TX
http://flybigbend.com
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Jesse,
I believe Robin Marks has sealed on the cabin top.
http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/index.htm
-Chris
#40072
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door fit
>
> For what it's worth, we have started doing the door fit/fill/sand/fill/
> fit/fill... process with the seals on. We found what others found that
> with the seal the fit is completely different. Even to the point of not
> marking and drilling the holes for the latch pins until the seal is on,
> and shimming out the plastic blocks on the door to get the pin holes
> further away from the edge of the figerglass/metal on the door frame. I
> believe there are several right ways to do this, but may wrong ways. I
> have seen some pin holes that we so wallowed out they were completely
> unusable IMHO and should be filled/doubled and redrilled. I agree with
> the other assessments that the doors are the worst (or at least close to
> it) part of building the -10.
>
> BTW, have any others worked on a door seal that fits on the cabin instead
> of the door? FWIW, it looks a lot better, seals well and helps the
> fitting process.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On Mar 14, 2008, at 11:29 PM, Chris wrote:
>
>>
>> No its not hollow it is a neoprene of sorts made for pipers, so its more
>> like a square cross section. Not unlike the home depot stuff...but
>> better. I have not opened it yet, looks like there is some special
>> adhesive with it too. I plan to use some carpet tape for a temporary
>> type install to see how it will interfere with what I call the
>> "preliminary" door fit I have achieved. Going into this I couldn't
>> believe the seal wouldn't possibly change my fit so I am mentally
>> prepared for more work once the seal is on. I think its a good idea to
>> try a temporary fit of the seal because I think the trim of the cabin
>> top and its variation will affect the seal and its compression or lack
>> of compression etc.
>> -Chris
>> #40072
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <kilopapa@antelecom.net>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door fit
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> Is the seal from ATP hollow? Will you be mounting it
>>> temporarily at this fitting check, assuming pre-paint? Is
>>> the choice of door seal necessary to know at the time of
>>> door fitting?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>> 40494
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message Follows -----
>>> From: "Chris" <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
>>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door fit
>>> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:01:35 -0400
>>>
>>> .....and this was with hinges on but no door seal.
>>>
>>> .....I'll revisit the fit with the door seals on, those just
>>> arrived . I am trying the ones from Aviation Tech Products.
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>>> #40072
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | There was an old woman .... |
Hi
One of the things I have learned in building my -10 (some assembly still
required), is there is a huge amount that I don't know. For example, as I
was building my tail cone I ended up leaving some dents and dings in the
cone that make me winch every time I look at it.
Anyway, as I am coming close to where I have to attach the cone to the fuse
(a step I have been avoiding for logistical reasons), I keep looking at the
cone wondering what I should do about my less than perfect work. Last
Monday, I rented a small van and took my cone out to my paint shop to get an
opinion. He took one look at the "minor imperfections" and said they were
nothing. To demonstrate he mixed up some aluminium filler filled one of the
dents and then sanded it done so it was smooth as a baby's butt.
He also showed me the before / after photos of a C&^%&%172 that had hail
damage on the wings. Amazing.
I now know what magic a good shop can do. The "outies" were what was
bothering me the most. These he said were easily dealt with as well. I
rapidly realized I was being a worry wart old woman.. (no offence to PC
worry wart old women intended.)
Serendipity being what it is, I was glad I went as he had a Glasair
Sportsman in the shop for painting. It was an "11 day to taxi" with the
windows not quite complete. I saw how the windows were Silpruf'd in with a
"trench" around the perimeter. I believe the plan was to Silpruf the trench
and use this as a trim ring around the window. I believe the upside to this
was that it would be *easier* to replace a window. I have just received the
Glasair Silpuf video so I look forward to seeing how this really works.
Cheers
Les Kearney
#40643
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Take a look in section 11, page 5.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
Chase Snodgrass wrote:
>
> Almost ready to rivet vertical stabilizer, and have a part leftover.
> LOL. Where does VS1016 fit????
>
> Chase Snodgrass
> Presidio, TX
> http://flybigbend.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: window cleaning |
You can also get acrylic cleaners at good motorcycle shops ..... they
have a worse problem than we do!!!
I use copious amounts of water (hold the hose on the windshield) and my
had to get the grit and big bug lumps off, then lay a wet towel over the
windshield to soften the remaining bug bodies ...... wash with an old
t-shirt ....the microfiber should work well here .... and then use an
acrylic cleaner. I bought a bottle of LP AERO cleaner at Sun-n-Fun, but
have used others from motorcycle and auto parts places with excellent
results.
Linn
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> While I never had problems with Pledge (pump ONLY NOT AEROSOL) on my
> last plane, I've now switched exclusively to Plexus for my RV-10...
> the windshield being so utterly painful to replace I figured it was
> worth a couple bucks more for the care. Try skygeek.com for pricing.
> I've also been exclusively using microfiber towels for the past 5 or 6
> years...they're perfect for the job.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | eBay MT Propeller 3-Blade Constant Speed 78 inch |
220212172057
There is an MT Propeller 3-Blade Constant Speed 78 inch on eBay. I have
no idea if it would work on our type aircraft/motor, just wanted to let
the list know what was posted.
Robin
Hartzell BA in hand
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Andair/FI Fitting |
Jim,
I presume what you mean is with the tee fitting, I wouldn't have to run ret
urn lines to each tank, and that the way you have it installed means that t
he overflow fuel that is created when the pump is on just goes back to the
supply line coming off the Andair valve.
In my case I was originally going to install a different type of engine whi
ch required fuel pumps running continiously, so I in fact have return lines
already installed running back to the tank so as I understand it, I will n
ot need this tee fitting. I will just run my overflow line to the upper ret
urn port on my Andair valve and return the fuel to the tank it was pulled f
rom.
Is this correct?
Thanks,
JOhn G. 409 redesigning the Door fitting, perfect timing with the emails.>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Andair/FI Fitting> From: jimberry@qwest.net> Date:
Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:08:30 -0700> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> > --> RV10-Li
st message posted by: "jim berry" <jimberry@qwest.net>> > John,> > I believ
e most people are using the Andair valve with the built in 90 degree ports,
because it makes plumbing the fuel lines easier. I used the swivel tee on
the center(or outflow) port because there is not enough room for a standard
tee to clear the other 2 ports during installation. If you spend some time
trying to get all 3 lines installed to the Andair in the confined space of
the tunnel I think you will find the extra cost of the swivel tee to be wo
rth it.> > Jim Berry> 40482> N15JB(reserved)> > > > > Read this topic onlin
e here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169822#169822> > >
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==> > >
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| Subject: | Weight and B alance |
Does anyone have a good weight and balance spreadsheet. I couldn't find one
in the search here or Vans airforce.
Gary
40274
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and B alance |
Sent you two different excel files off list.
Larry Rosen
#356
do not archive
gary wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a good weight and balance spreadsheet. I couldn't find one
> in the search here or Vans airforce.
>
> Gary
> 40274
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Andair/FI Fitting |
John,
I think we may be talking about different things. See page 37-4, step 7. My comments
assume one is using the Andair fuel valve with the built in 90 degree fittings.
I believe most people are using this valve, as it provides easier routing
of the fuel lines than the valve with 45 degree fittings shown in Van's drawings.
The problem with using a standard AN826 tee on the center port is that
the middle leg of the tee will not clear the right and left ports during installation.
The swivel tee allows you to keep the middle leg in a fixed position
while you tighten the female leg on to the center port of the Andair Valve.
I also have a return(purge) line for my Airflow Performance injector, so I actually
used 2 swivel tees on the center and right ports to make future maintenance
easier.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB(reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170079#170079
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| Subject: | What did I do wrong? |
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