RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/17/08


Total Messages Posted: 24



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:19 AM - Re: Door fit (Richard Reynolds)
     2. 04:21 AM - Re: Garmin Avionics stack question (Jesse Saint)
     3. 04:33 AM - Re: Where did you mount the Lightspeed Plasma III box (Michael Wellenzohn)
     4. 06:40 AM - Aspen Avionics (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
     5. 08:13 AM - Fuel pressure problems (Sam)
     6. 08:51 AM - Re: Silpruf / Window Installation and other magic (Rick Sked)
     7. 08:51 AM - Re: Fuel pressure problems (Bobby J. Hughes)
     8. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Andair/FI Fitting (John Gonzalez)
     9. 09:40 AM - Re: Aspen Avionics (John Jessen)
    10. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: Andair/FI Fitting (Tim Olson)
    11. 10:02 AM - Re: Fuel pressure problems (Sam)
    12. 10:11 AM - FS - Flap Positioning System from Vans (Showplanes) (MauleDriver)
    13. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: Andair/FI Fitting (John Gonzalez)
    14. 01:29 PM - Re: Fuel pressure problems (Jesse Saint)
    15. 03:06 PM - Re: Fuel pressure problems (Sam)
    16. 06:42 PM - Test (David Hertner)
    17. 07:11 PM - Another RV-10 painted (Dan Masys)
    18. 07:11 PM - Air Ramps and Governor interference (McGANN, Ron)
    19. 07:33 PM - Re: Air Ramps and Governor interference (Rick Sked)
    20. 07:41 PM - Re: Another RV-10 painted (Marcus Cooper)
    21. 07:55 PM - Re: Air Ramps and Governor interference (Tim Olson)
    22. 09:03 PM - Re: Another RV-10 painted (AirMike)
    23. 09:03 PM - Re: Another RV-10 painted (Dave Saylor)
    24. 09:23 PM - Re: Another RV-10 painted (Deems Davis)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:19:39 AM PST US
    From: Richard Reynolds <rvreynolds@macs.net>
    Subject: Re: Door fit
    Apple-Mail-6--188049053 Apple-Mail-7--188049048--


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    Time: 04:21:12 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Garmin Avionics stack question
    William, nice sub-panel work. One thing that I have learned in my work on the -10 is that the sub-panel can be your best friend. There are a lot of items that you need to remote-mount (avionics cooling fan, some sensors, altitude encoder, weather receiver, etc.) for which the sub-panel can be used. It is a fantastic way to get a good mounting place without having to go between the sub-panel and the firewall, which is very hard to get to even with a big hole in the sub- panel. For those who haven't gotten there yet, it would be wise to list out all of the things that mount somewhere back there and to plan where you will mount them before removing too much of your sub-panel. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Mar 16, 2008, at 11:13 PM, William Curtis wrote: > > I'd think you would want the shortest on the bottom since you only > have 9.5" of depth before you have to cut into the secondary panel. > Having the longer radios on the bottom will require you cut into the > secondary panel too close to the bottom edge reducing it's > strength. Cutting the secondary panel 2" from the bottom makes the > bottom 1 1/4" of the panel only usable for radios shorter than 9.5". > > Also, Jessie, I understand using nutplates in the angle makes > removal of the trays easier. Certainly this is better than the > screws and nylon lock-nut that I've seen on many installations. > Whenever those trays using the lock-nuts have to be removed, > reinstallation will be a royal pain. Short of using something like > Radiorax, the standard convention is to use Floating Clipnuts. > Clipnuts even came with my PS-8000B audio panel. > > Because the audio panel is so short (6"), I've actually moved it to > the left of the stack so that I would have to cut less of the > secondary panel. > http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/91Panel/index.html > > Here is a picture of the forward fuselage secondary panel > modifications formy instruments. > http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/08fuselage/fuselage31q.html > > William > http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ > > -------- Original Message -------- >> >> You'll probably want the shortest on top if you want a center stack, >> because of the center rib. Other than that, I could work if >> you mount it off center. >> >> Personally, I'd go for a PS Engineering audio panel before the >> GMA340. >> They've got about the best support there is out there. >> >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >> do not archive >> >> >> Chris wrote: >>> In planning my panel , I will have a garmin 430, sl30, gtx327, and >>> gma >>> 340, looking at the lengths of everything if I stack them in said >>> order >>> top to bottom I will be able to see the back of the tubes on each >>> unit >>> looking up from the floor. Would this be ok. I am not use to any >>> particular order. Plus having the 430 on top puts its sreen up >>> where I >>> can see it. Just thought this arrangment might be handy down the >>> road if >>> I have maintenance issues looking working under/behind the panel. >>> Thoughts?? >>> >>> Chris Lucas >>> #40072 > >


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    Time: 04:33:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Where did you mount the Lightspeed Plasma III box
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Thanks you guys for your help. Michael -------- RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170349#170349


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    Time: 06:40:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Aspen Avionics
    From: "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" <tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero>
    Anyone thinking about EFIS or MFD from Aspen Avionics? Looks like some very attractive units. TDT 40025 Firewall forward Tim Dawson-Townsend tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile)


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    Time: 08:13:55 AM PST US
    From: Sam <sam@fr8dog.net>
    Subject: Fuel pressure problems
    The first fifty hours were trouble free, as far as fuel pressure goes, but now for the past 40 hours or so, I'm getting fuel pressure fluctuation's. Normally the F/P runs in the mid to low 20's, but now constantly fluctuates from 8 to 27 psi. The engine runs ok, but it's disconcerting. Has anybody experienced this on an IO540D4A5 before, would the engine actually keep running if the F/P was really down to 8psi? Sam Marlow #40157


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    Time: 08:51:02 AM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Silpruf / Window Installation and other magic
    Ok Les...you convinced me, but since I have no children, I hope my neighbor s don't miss one of theirs. They have three, what's one less=C2- :) Rick Sked 40185 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:09:37 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RE: RV10-List: Silpruf / Window Installation and other magic Rick Buy the video. Sell the kids if you have to raise the cash. There are a few tricks that make it worth the $30. Especially getting the gap spot on perf ect. As far as the wind screen is concerned, I would like to use this method but as a rank amateur, I am not sure I want to be the first to try. I bet that piece of plexi is not cheap. Cheers Les #40643 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked Sent: March-16-08 9:45 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Silpruf / Window Installation and other magic Les, Are you suggesting to install the front windsheild with this method? I am u sing Silpruf on the doors and cabin=C2-glass=C2-but plan to follow plan s on the windscreen... If anyone gets the chance to check out a Cirrus, you will see similar install on their windows. just a bead of adhesive seperat ing the window from the composite. Looks really clean, if ya'll do it right .....would love to check out that video...just too poor from buying the Sil pruf. And Les is right...it's high performance silicone, you couldn't paint it if you tried. The big trick is to get the gap as uniform as possible pr ior to the install. If you use Dave's method it works well. After paint you fill the gap...I'm shooting for less than an 1/8th, closer to 3/32 to a 1/ 16th with the silpruf. leave the bead to dry then a sharp razor to trim the bead flush,=C2-should leave you a nice clean line between the plexi and the composite top. Rick Sked 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:18:32 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: Silpruf / Window Installation and other magic Hi One the strength of Dave Saylor's recommendation and other comments, I purc hased the AirlinkTech video on using Silpruf to set install windows. The vi deo can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2ndhr9 I watched the video last night and have a few comments, FWIW. First, a big negative - it=99s on a VHS tape not on a DVD. After that it was a very nice "how to" video. In short the process used is to mask the windows and then set them in place on small Silpruf standoffs that keep the windows flush with the canopy. A bead of Silpuf is used to install the windows. Screw on clecos are used to keep everything in pace while things dry. The video is very detailed and shows everything required, step by step. It explains how and why to mask the windows to get a nice sharp reveal. It als o shows how to trim the windows for a perfect fit. A groove (about 1/8") is left between the windows and the canopy. After pai nting, Silpruf is used to fill the groove. =C2-Apparently Silpruf cannot be painted so you must pick a Silpuf colour that works with your pain schem e. At first blush there seems to be some obvious advantages to this method the y being: =C2=B7 =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- The Silpruf has a l ong working time so you don=99t have to play =9Cbeat the clock =9D when installing. =C2=B7 =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- The Silpruf is non reactive so you can use normal masking tape to setup the =9Creveal =9D edges. You will have lots of time to get everything just right befor e you have to remove the masks. =C2=B7 =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- The Silpruf is flex ible so there won=99t be cracks in the paint / caulking around the wi ndows =C2=B7 =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- In the event that a window needs to be replaced. It would be a much easier job to remove & rep lace the window * I think *. =C2=B7 =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- You are not glassin g onto a window with all the associated issues with sanding etc. As someone mentioned in an earlier post, with windows you can=99t fix a screw u p with an OOPS rivet. =C2=B7 =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Before curing and a fter, excess along the groove can be easily removed. A quick search shows that Silpruf is available in a wide choice of colours including: White, Black, Limestone, Light Grey, Aluminium, GreyDark, Grey, Precast White and Bronze. Right after I watched the video I checked the plans to see how the front wi ndow is installed. My recollection was there was no =9Cjoggle =9D at the bottom of the front windscreen. Using Silpruf on the front winds creen would, I think, require building a joggle and then trimming the windo w to fit. I just noticed that Dave noted this rework in one of his posts as well. The video is very detailed and shows everything required, step by step. It explains how and why to mask the windows to get a nice sharp reveal. It als o shows how to trim the windows for a perfect fit. If you are contemplating using this method, get the video, it is well worth the cost. Anyway, I for one plan to use this method on the side windows. I still have a lot of time to contemplate the front windscreen.. Cheers Les Kearney #40643 =93 moving from rivets to systems C-GCWZ =C2- =C2- get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List p:/ /forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- ===== ==== ======================= ==


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    Time: 08:51:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Fuel pressure problems
    From: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
    Could this be related to the Fuel Injection AD was published last week? Bobby Hughes ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:11 AM Subject: RV10-List: Fuel pressure problems The first fifty hours were trouble free, as far as fuel pressure goes, but now for the past 40 hours or so, I'm getting fuel pressure fluctuation's. Normally the F/P runs in the mid to low 20's, but now constantly fluctuates from 8 to 27 psi. The engine runs ok, but it's disconcerting. Has anybody experienced this on an IO540D4A5 before, would the engine actually keep running if the F/P was really down to 8psi? Sam Marlow #40157


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    Time: 09:34:02 AM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Andair/FI Fitting
    Hi Jim, I am sorry, I am really having trouble understanding why I need this. My an dair valve has six ports. I have plumbed all the lines coming from the fuel tanks and going back to the fuel tanks. I originally needed to return fuel to the tanks because I was going to be running electrical fuel pumps all t he time. I am still going to run overflow fuel to the tqanks if I am using the boast pump. I also am using a six inch extension to place the valve lower down in the t unnel. I have no problem with space with the port that will be going to the fuel filter(Outflow). So why can I not just run the 3/8" return line from the pump package relief valve to the return port on the Andair valve? JOhn> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Andair/FI Fitting> From: jimberry@qwest.net> V10-List message posted by: "jim berry" <jimberry@qwest.net>> > John,> > I believe most people are using the Andair valve with the built in 90 degree ports, because it makes plumbing the fuel lines easier. I used the swivel t ee on the center(or outflow) port because there is not enough room for a st andard tee to clear the other 2 ports during installation. If you spend som e time trying to get all 3 lines installed to the Andair in the confined sp ace of the tunnel I think you will find the extra cost of the swivel tee to be worth it.> > Jim Berry> 40482> N15JB(reserved)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169822#16982 ====> > >


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    Time: 09:40:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Aspen Avionics
    From: John Jessen <n212pj@gmail.com>
    Ugh. Great for old panels, but if starting new, why do it? Not that cheap for what you get. At least not from what I can make of the literature. You're in the business. What do you think? I especially wouldn't have 3 across. Would make me dizzy. Best IMHO to have a single large screen. John Jessen do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:37 AM Subject: RV10-List: Aspen Avionics Anyone thinking about EFIS or MFD from Aspen Avionics? Looks like some very attractive units. TDT 40025 Firewall forward Tim Dawson-Townsend tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile)


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    Time: 09:53:31 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Andair/FI Fitting
    John, Don't sweat it so much if you think it'll work. You're just the first person who has had the more expensive dual valve required for the subie and the continental install who's then decided to go to a standard IO-540 install. If you want to pump it back to the same tank it came from, I'm guessing it should work fine. You're pioneering this one though, so you're the one who'll have the best feedback....in a couple years. ;) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive John Gonzalez wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I am sorry, I am really having trouble understanding why I need this. My > andair valve has six ports. I have plumbed all the lines coming from the > fuel tanks and going back to the fuel tanks. I originally needed to > return fuel to the tanks because I was going to be running electrical > fuel pumps all the time. I am still going to run overflow fuel to the > tqanks if I am using the boast pump. > > I also am using a six inch extension to place the valve lower down in > the tunnel. I have no problem with space with the port that will be > going to the fuel filter(Outflow). So why can I not just run the 3/8" > return line from the pump package relief valve to the return port on the > Andair valve? > > JOhn > > > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Andair/FI Fitting > > From: jimberry@qwest.net > > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:08:30 -0700 > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > > > > > John, > > > > I believe most people are using the Andair valve with the built in 90 > degree ports, because it makes plumbing the fuel lines easier. I used > the swivel tee on the center(or outflow) port because there is not > enough room for a standard tee to clear the other 2 ports during > installation. If you spend some time trying to get all 3 lines installed > to the Andair in the confined space of the tunnel I think you will find > the extra cost of the swivel tee to be worth it. > > > > Jim Berry > > 40482 > > N15JB(reserved) > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=169822#169822 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <====================== > &g================= > > > > > > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 10:02:51 AM PST US
    From: Sam <sam@fr8dog.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure problems
    Possibly, I haven't checked that yet, but it's inconsistent. The fluctuation's can subside for minuets at a time in cruise. Bobby J. Hughes wrote: > > Could this be related to the Fuel Injection AD was published last week? > > Bobby Hughes > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam > *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2008 9:11 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Fuel pressure problems > > The first fifty hours were trouble free, as far as fuel pressure goes, > but now for the past 40 hours or so, I'm getting fuel pressure > fluctuation's. Normally the F/P runs in the mid to low 20's, but now > constantly fluctuates from 8 to 27 psi. The engine runs ok, but it's > disconcerting. Has anybody experienced this on an IO540D4A5 before, > would the engine actually keep running if the F/P was really down to 8psi? > Sam Marlow > #40157 > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > * > > > *


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    Time: 10:11:51 AM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: FS - Flap Positioning System from Vans (Showplanes)
    I managed to order 2 of these. Just installed mine and want to sell the other. $200 and I'll pay shipping. Regularly $225 Never unpacked Ordered from Vans as ES FLAP POS SWV 10 same as FPS-E4 from Showplanes Please contact off list. Thanks. Bill "working with the top and the panel with the finishing kit in the mail" Watson 40605


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    Time: 10:47:06 AM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Andair/FI Fitting
    On the communication end, I figured something like that was occurring. It j ust wasn't making sense. Thanks for bridging the gap. John> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:50:55 -0500> From: Tim@MyRV10.com> To: rv10 -list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Andair/FI Fitting> > --> R V10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>> > John,> > Don't sw eat it so much if you think it'll work. You're just> the first person who h as had the more expensive dual valve> required for the subie and the contin ental install who's then> decided to go to a standard IO-540 install. If yo u want to> pump it back to the same tank it came from, I'm guessing it> sho uld work fine. You're pioneering this one though, so> you're the one who'll have the best feedback....in a couple> years. ;)> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104 CD - Flying> do not archive> > > John Gonzalez wrote:> > Hi Jim,> > > > I a m sorry, I am really having trouble understanding why I need this. My > > a ndair valve has six ports. I have plumbed all the lines coming from the > > fuel tanks and going back to the fuel tanks. I originally needed to > > re turn fuel to the tanks because I was going to be running electrical > > fue l pumps all the time. I am still going to run overflow fuel to the > > tqan ks if I am using the boast pump.> > > > I also am using a six inch extensio n to place the valve lower down in > > the tunnel. I have no problem with s pace with the port that will be > > going to the fuel filter(Outflow). So w hy can I not just run the 3/8" > > return line from the pump package relief valve to the return port on the > > Andair valve?> > > > JOhn> > > > > Sub ject: RV10-List: Re: Andair/FI Fitting> > > From: jimberry@qwest.net> > > D ate: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:08:30 -0700> > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com> > >> > > > John,> > >> > > I believe most people are using the Andair valve with the built in 90 > > degree ports, because it makes plumbing the fuel lines easier. I used > > the swivel tee on the center(or outflow) port because t here is not > > enough room for a standard tee to clear the other 2 ports d uring > > installation. If you spend some time trying to get all 3 lines in stalled > > to the Andair in the confined space of the tunnel I think you w ill find > > the extra cost of the swivel tee to be worth it.> > >> > > Jim Berry> > > 40482> > > N15JB(reserved)> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Read this t opic online here:> > >> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=1 69822#169822> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > <======== ===============> > &g======== ======================> > >


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    Time: 01:29:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure problems
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    That sounds like a sensor issue, maybe either a bad crimp or a bad ground. Don't ask me how I might know. do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Sam wrote: > The first fifty hours were trouble free, as far as fuel pressure goes, > but now for the past 40 hours or so, I'm getting fuel pressure > fluctuation's. Normally the F/P runs in the mid to low 20's, but now > constantly fluctuates from 8 to 27 psi. The engine runs ok, but it's > disconcerting. Has anybody experienced this on an IO540D4A5 before, > would the engine actually keep running if the F/P was really down to 8psi? > Sam Marlow > #40157 >


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    Time: 03:06:25 PM PST US
    From: Sam <sam@fr8dog.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure problems
    That's what I thought to, but when I turn on the boost pump, it immediately returns to normal pressure. Jesse Saint wrote: > > That sounds like a sensor issue, maybe either a bad crimp or a bad ground. > Don't ask me how I might know. > > do not archive. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > www.saintaviation.com > 352-427-0285 > > Sam wrote: > >> The first fifty hours were trouble free, as far as fuel pressure goes, >> but now for the past 40 hours or so, I'm getting fuel pressure >> fluctuation's. Normally the F/P runs in the mid to low 20's, but now >> constantly fluctuates from 8 to 27 psi. The engine runs ok, but it's >> disconcerting. Has anybody experienced this on an IO540D4A5 before, >> would the engine actually keep running if the F/P was really down to 8psi? >> Sam Marlow >> #40157 >> >> > > >


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    Time: 06:42:35 PM PST US
    From: David Hertner <effectus@rogers.com>
    Subject: Test
    This a test message. Do not archive


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    Time: 07:11:34 PM PST US
    From: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
    Subject: Another RV-10 painted
    Finally got around to creating a simple web page showing my RV-10 in its new colors. Paint was done by AOG Aircraft Painting in Mena, Arkansas and although it is not one of the flashier -10's flying, I like it quite a lot. Only problem I have is that the airplane now looks like it is store-bought, and most people guess it is a Lancair and not a homebuilt RV. I can live with that... :) URL is: http://dbmichair.mc.vanderbilt.edu/rv10/n104ld.html -Dan Masys RV10 N104LD RV7A N747DL


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    Time: 07:11:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Air Ramps and Governor interference
    From: "McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
    G'day all, I've just installed the air ramps in the upper cowl and there is significant interference with the prop governor. It seems that the interference would go away if the air ramps had been pushed fully forward in the cowl, but at the expense of a significant transition (step) between the cowl inlet and the ramp. I notice on Tim's site that he has trimmed the ramp for the governor - same condition as mine. Is this normal or have I stuffed something up? Cheers, Ron "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer."


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    Time: 07:33:22 PM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Air Ramps and Governor interference
    Normal...stinking rotten normal. And look!!! Nowhere is it mentioned in the plans...thanks to Tim for pointing it out, lots easier to trim, cleco trim cleco trim cleco GLUE!! Rick Sked 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron McGANN" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:08:00 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: Air Ramps and Governor interference G'day all, I've just installed the air ramps in the upper cowl and there is significan t interference with the prop governor.=C2- It seems that the interference would go away if the air ramps had been pushed fully forward in the cowl, but at the expense of a significant transition (step) between the cowl inle t and the ramp.=C2- I notice on Tim's site that he has trimmed the ramp f or the governor - same condition as mine.=C2-=C2- Is this normal or hav e I stuffed something up? Cheers, Ron "Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to =============== ==== ======================= ==


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    Time: 07:41:57 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: Another RV-10 painted
    Beautiful! Congratulations! I especially like the -7 & -10 shot. Must be nice to have a choice. Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Masys Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 9:08 PM Subject: RV10-List: Another RV-10 painted Finally got around to creating a simple web page showing my RV-10 in its new colors. Paint was done by AOG Aircraft Painting in Mena, Arkansas and although it is not one of the flashier -10's flying, I like it quite a lot. Only problem I have is that the airplane now looks like it is store-bought, and most people guess it is a Lancair and not a homebuilt RV. I can live with that... :) URL is: http://dbmichair.mc.vanderbilt.edu/rv10/n104ld.html -Dan Masys RV10 N104LD RV7A N747DL


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    Time: 07:55:53 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Air Ramps and Governor interference
    Very normal indeed. Now, just make sure that in the hollow area under the air ramp you also seal it so that air can't traverse that cavity....that will help greatly with your CHT's later. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying McGANN, Ron wrote: > > G'day all, > > I've just installed the air ramps in the upper cowl and there is > significant interference with the prop governor. It seems that the > interference would go away if the air ramps had been pushed fully > forward in the cowl, but at the expense of a significant transition > (step) between the cowl inlet and the ramp. I notice on Tim's site that > he has trimmed the ramp for the governor - same condition as mine. Is > this normal or have I stuffed something up? > > Cheers, > Ron > > "Warning: > The information contained in this email and any attached files is > confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended > recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any > attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email > in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been > taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, > however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the > sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus > checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to > your computer." > >


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    Time: 09:03:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 painted
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    Congrats Looks totally awesome.Can you give us a few details on what you did for prep.... what they did for prep - wheel pants on/off cowling on/off .... flight controls..... and costs How long was it in their shop. Did they let you work there. -------- OSH '08 or Bust Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/fiberglass stuff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170555#170555


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    Time: 09:03:37 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    Subject: Another RV-10 painted
    Nice paint job! >>most people guess it is a Lancair and not a homebuilt RV<< Ground control upgraded me to a Columbia the other day... Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 831-722-9141 831-750-0284 CL www.AirCraftersLLC.com


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    Time: 09:23:35 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 painted
    So why is a Columbia an 'upgrade'? ;-) Nice paint job Dan! Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ Dave Saylor wrote: > > Nice paint job! > > >>> most people guess it is a Lancair and not a homebuilt RV<< >>> > > Ground control upgraded me to a Columbia the other day... > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters LLC > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA > 831-722-9141 > 831-750-0284 CL > www.AirCraftersLLC.com > > >




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