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1. 04:40 AM - RV10 model (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 08:01 AM - Re: RV10 model (John Gonzalez)
3. 10:23 AM - Re: RV10 model (Larry Rosen)
4. 11:14 AM - Re: counter sinking canopy holes (Lew Gallagher)
5. 11:49 AM - Re: heated pitot to plastic tube connector (johngoodman)
6. 12:45 PM - Re: Batteries (gary)
7. 02:04 PM - weight (David McNeill)
8. 03:04 PM - Re: weight (Larry Rosen)
9. 03:38 PM - N104BS First Flight (rv10builder)
10. 03:57 PM - Re: N104BS First Flight (Tim Olson)
11. 04:08 PM - Re: N104BS First Flight (Larry Rosen)
12. 04:08 PM - Re: N104BS First Flight (John Dunne)
13. 05:19 PM - Re: weight (David McNeill)
14. 05:27 PM - Re: Re: counter sinking canopy holes (Thane States)
15. 05:47 PM - Re: weight (Kelly McMullen)
16. 05:51 PM - Paint VH-ICY (Chris and Susie McGough)
17. 06:07 PM - Re: heated pitot to plastic tube connector (Chris)
18. 06:15 PM - Re: weight (David McNeill)
19. 07:43 PM - Re: N104BS First Flight (Rene)
20. 08:03 PM - Re: N104BS First Flight (bruce breckenridge)
21. 08:57 PM - Re: weight (Robin Marks)
22. 09:04 PM - Re: Fuel pressure problems (Chase Snodgrass)
23. 09:20 PM - Re: weight (David McNeill)
24. 09:43 PM - Re: RV10 model (Shawn Moon)
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I've recently had a bad experience that I thought I would share with you
so maybe you wont experience the same thing. Back in October of last
year I ordered 3 plane models of my plane to be made, long story why 3,
from Griffin Aerospace Models www.griffinaerospace.com and had to pay
for them up front, which I didn't mind doing. They told me that I should
hopefully have them by Xmas, which was what I wanted. Come Xmas time
they said there had been some delays because of XYZ but should be here
the end of Jan but if not for sure first week of Feb.
On the third week of Feb I e-mailed them asking what the hold up was on
the models. I also called and left them a voice mail with the same
question, they never answer their phone, I received no response back
from them. On march 9th I wrote them an e-mail, and called and left a
voice mail, saying that it had been 5 months since I ordered the models
and I needed them to respond and let me know when I could expect
delivery of the models and if they didn't respond I would have Master
Card reverse the charge for the models. I've never heard back from them
and I have now reversed the charges for the models. They never even
responded back to Master card on the reversing either.
I know that Tim had good luck, I think, with them but they definitely
are not on top of their game now. If anyone is considering ordering a
model of their plane I would suggest looking elsewhere other that
Griffin, based on my experience.
Has any of you had good luck with another model maker?
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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I ordered one from a dealer on Ebay, I think they are made in the Phillipea
ns. The models are made of wood and painted. The RV10 wingspan is about 11
inches and I only purchased it for painting reasons, to try out my paint sc
heme.
The order was filled and shipped within a few weeks and the model is of hig
h quality and was about $55. Unfortunely, my favorite one orderred is the C
anadian version of a C130. Detail and paint scheme are amazing and it was t
he same price. They have a vary large selection of aircraft and I recommend
them for doing business with.
John G. 409
From: wayne.e@grandecom.netTo: rv10-list@matronics.comSubject: RV10-List: R
V10 modelDate: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:36:59 -0500
I've recently had a bad experience that I thought I would share with you so
maybe you wont experience the same thing. Back in October of last year I o
rdered 3 plane models of my plane to be made, long story why 3, from Griffi
n Aerospace Models www.griffinaerospace.com and had to pay for them up fro
nt, which I didn't mind doing. They told me that I should hopefully have th
em by Xmas, which was what I wanted. Come Xmas time they said there had bee
n some delays because of XYZ but should be here the end of Jan but if not f
or sure first week of Feb.
On the third week of Feb I e-mailed them asking what the hold up was on the
models. I also called and left them a voice mail with the same question, t
hey never answer their phone, I received no response back from them. On mar
ch 9th I wrote them an e-mail, and called and left a voice mail, saying tha
t it had been 5 months since I ordered the models and I needed them to resp
ond and let me know when I could expect delivery of the models and if they
didn't respond I would have Master Card reverse the charge for the models.
I've never heard back from them and I have now reversed the charges for the
models. They never even responded back to Master card on the reversing eit
her.
I know that Tim had good luck, I think, with them but they definitely are n
ot on top of their game now. If anyone is considering ordering a model of t
heir plane I would suggest looking elsewhere other that Griffin, based on m
y experience.
Has any of you had good luck with another model maker?
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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Just do a search on ebay for RV10 Model and you get 2 results from
ecraft designs. They have 2 models. 11.5 inch and 16.6 inch wing
spans. $69 and $125 respectively. This is probably the vendor John is
referring to.
I thought Jesse was in the RV10 model business.
Larry Rosen
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John Gonzalez wrote:
> I ordered one from a dealer on Ebay, I think they are made in the
> Phillipeans. The models are made of wood and painted. The RV10
> wingspan is about 11 inches and I only purchased it for painting
> reasons, to try out my paint scheme.
>
> The order was filled and shipped within a few weeks and the model is
> of high quality and was about $55. Unfortunely, my favorite one
> orderred is the Canadian version of a C130. Detail and paint scheme
> are amazing and it was the same price. They have a vary large
> selection of aircraft and I recommend them for doing business with.
>
> John G. 409
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: wayne.e@grandecom.net
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RV10 model
> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:36:59 -0500
>
> I've recently had a bad experience that I thought I would share
> with you so maybe you wont experience the same thing. Back in
> October of last year I ordered 3 plane models of my plane to be
> made, long story why 3, from Griffin Aerospace Models
> www.griffinaerospace.com <http://www.griffinaerospace.com/> and
> had to pay for them up front, which I didn't mind doing. They told
> me that I should hopefully have them by Xmas, which was what I
> wanted. Come Xmas time they said there had been some delays
> because of XYZ but should be here the end of Jan but if not for
> sure first week of Feb.
>
> On the third week of Feb I e-mailed them asking what the hold up
> was on the models. I also called and left them a voice mail with
> the same question, they never answer their phone, I received no
> response back from them. On march 9th I wrote them an e-mail, and
> called and left a voice mail, saying that it had been 5 months
> since I ordered the models and I needed them to respond and let me
> know when I could expect delivery of the models and if they didn't
> respond I would have Master Card reverse the charge for the
> models. I've never heard back from them and I have now reversed
> the charges for the models. They never even responded back to
> Master card on the reversing either.
>
> I know that Tim had good luck, I think, with them but they
> definitely are not on top of their game now. If anyone is
> considering ordering a model of their plane I would suggest
> looking elsewhere other that Griffin, based on my experience.
>
> Has any of you had good luck with another model maker?
>
> Wayne Edgerton N602WT
>
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| Subject: | Re: counter sinking canopy holes |
Hey Nick and Eric,
Thanks to John and the guys ahead of me on the traveling tool list, the seatbelt
countersink arrived today! If others are interested, post your name here with
your next in line number so we can keep passing it forward -- then back to
John.
I will contact Nick (4), to get the address when we're through with it and then
on to Eric (5).
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Landing gear installed, we're mobile!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171758#171758
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| Subject: | Re: heated pitot to plastic tube connector |
Pascal,
What brand of heated pitot is it? Unless it's something unusual I'd think the adapters
from Safair1 would work fine. Once you're about 5 or 6 inches away from
the pitot, heat shouldn't be an issue. Scroll down this web page:
http://www.safeair1.com/index.htm
John
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171760#171760
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No I went with two small ones like Tim Olson did.
Gary
40274
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Thyssen
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Batteries
Did you go with the rg25 battery?
Pat Thyssen
gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote:
It's the engine monitor that reboots for me when I crank. So I needed to
add a second battery even though I have 2 alternators.
Gary
40274
DAR inspection scheduled
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim@CombsFive.Com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Batteries
I agree!
I have the Advanced Flight Systems 3500EE and it works great during
cranking.
Any EFIS that will not function during cranking is not
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Just weighed N46007 and the result is 1630. arm was 109.
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Dave, nice job
would you add some details.
Wheel fairings
paint
interior
engine choice
prop choice
etc.
Also you should submit this info to the RV weight and balance database
<http://www.rvproject.com/wab/>
Larry
David McNeill wrote:
>
> Just weighed N46007 and the result is 1630. arm was 109.
>
> *
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>
> *
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| Subject: | N104BS First Flight |
After 3 years and 3 months of building, kit serial number 40308 flew at
08:48 in the morning on Saturday March 22nd as RV-10 N104BS. The flight
lasted 34 minutes with the only squawks being a audio problem resolved
by re-seating the audio panel and a non-reporting CHT probe. She may
not look pretty but flies great! I owe a special thanks to Dan Masys
(N104LD) for serving as my tireless technical counselor and flight
advisor. His help has been invaluable the entire project. Also thanks
to you Tim Olson for the information you supply to this community!
Brian Sutherland
#40308/ N104BS
Nashville, TN
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| Subject: | Re: N104BS First Flight |
Brian,
I sometimes don't jump in on the quick one-liners like "Congrats!"
and all that stuff, but since you put my name in there, let me say
"great job" and welcome to the list of flying -10's!! As you get
flying, you may have lots of questions, and feel free to ask and
learn as you need to. You're gonna have a blast from here on out!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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rv10builder wrote:
> After 3 years and 3 months of building, kit serial number 40308 flew at
> 08:48 in the morning on Saturday March 22nd as RV-10 N104BS. The flight
> lasted 34 minutes with the only squawks being a audio problem resolved
> by re-seating the audio panel and a non-reporting CHT probe. She may
> not look pretty but flies great! I owe a special thanks to Dan Masys
> (N104LD) for serving as my tireless technical counselor and flight
> advisor. His help has been invaluable the entire project. Also thanks
> to you Tim Olson for the information you supply to this community!
>
> Brian Sutherland
> #40308/ N104BS
> Nashville, TN
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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| Subject: | Re: N104BS First Flight |
"She may not look pretty but flies great!"
Looks prettier than the parts I have in my garage :-)
Congratulations
Larry Rosen
#356
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| Subject: | Re: N104BS First Flight |
Congratulations Brian, well done and she looks plenty pretty to me!
Cheers John, 40315
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----- Original Message -----
From: "rv10builder" <rv10builder@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:31 AM
Subject: RV10-List: N104BS First Flight
> After 3 years and 3 months of building, kit serial number 40308 flew at
> 08:48 in the morning on Saturday March 22nd as RV-10 N104BS. The flight
> lasted 34 minutes with the only squawks being a audio problem resolved
> by re-seating the audio panel and a non-reporting CHT probe. She may
> not look pretty but flies great! I owe a special thanks to Dan Masys
> (N104LD) for serving as my tireless technical counselor and flight
> advisor. His help has been invaluable the entire project. Also thanks
> to you Tim Olson for the information you supply to this community!
>
> Brian Sutherland
> #40308/ N104BS
> Nashville, TN
>
>
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Wheel pants and fairings included, no paint yet but will weigh again after
paint (Matterhorn white Jetglo and Maroon trim.
Engine is IO540D4A5 from Vans, Hartzell blended prop
Seats are ultra leather on the astronaut couch green. Four point inertial
belts: two are back of the Boeing style and two are flight deck rotary
buckles.
Dual Chelton displays, SL30, G327, Digiflite VSGV (switch able between
Chelton, GRT or stand alone). GRT EIS 6000, PM6000 intercom. GRT Sport EFIS
with moving map for backup and the primary XM weather display.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: weight
Dave, nice job
would you add some details.
Wheel fairings
paint
interior
engine choice
prop choice
etc.
Also you should submit this info to the RV weight and balance database
<http://www.rvproject.com/wab/>
Larry
David McNeill wrote:
>
> Just weighed N46007 and the result is 1630. arm was 109.
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: counter sinking canopy holes |
Would like to be on the list!! Thanks.
Thane States
11182 Scullers Run
Tega Cay, Sc 29708
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: counter sinking canopy holes
>
> Hey Nick and Eric,
>
> Thanks to John and the guys ahead of me on the traveling tool list, the
> seatbelt countersink arrived today! If others are interested, post your
> name here with your next in line number so we can keep passing it
> forward -- then back to John.
>
> I will contact Nick (4), to get the address when we're through with it and
> then on to Eric (5).
>
> Later, - Lew
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Landing gear installed, we're mobile!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171758#171758
>
>
>
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Any thoughts as to the wide range of c.g.s shown on
<http://www.rvproject.com/wab/> and where yours came out?
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:07 PM, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Wheel pants and fairings included, no paint yet but will weigh again after
> paint (Matterhorn white Jetglo and Maroon trim.
>
> Engine is IO540D4A5 from Vans, Hartzell blended prop
>
> Seats are ultra leather on the astronaut couch green. Four point inertial
> belts: two are back of the Boeing style and two are flight deck rotary
> buckles.
>
> Dual Chelton displays, SL30, G327, Digiflite VSGV (switch able between
> Chelton, GRT or stand alone). GRT EIS 6000, PM6000 intercom. GRT Sport EFIS
> with moving map for backup and the primary XM weather display.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 3:02 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: weight
>
>
> Dave, nice job
> would you add some details.
> Wheel fairings
> paint
> interior
> engine choice
> prop choice
> etc.
>
> Also you should submit this info to the RV weight and balance database
> <http://www.rvproject.com/wab/>
>
> Larry
>
> David McNeill wrote:
> >
> > Just weighed N46007 and the result is 1630. arm was 109.
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > *
>
>
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Home paint booth VH-ICY and my boy
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| Subject: | Re: heated pitot to plastic tube connector |
Pascal
Here is a setup I copied for my salvaged cessna heated probe. I just
have the total not the total and static as is shown. The nylon part I
used was PN 266N04X04 from spruce.
http://bmnellis.com/images/Wings/Dcp01628.jpg
Chris Lucas
#40072
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: heated pitot to plastic tube connector
thanks John, what connector/connection/adaptor would I use to connect
the copper connector from the pitot tube to this tubing?
Thanks!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: John W. Cox
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:00 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: heated pitot to plastic tube connector
Tygon F4040-A Fuel and Lubricant tubing comes to mind. We use it on
the turbine engines near a fuel transfer point with extreme heat near
the exhaust stacks. Heat resistance is important but so is
compatibility with cleaning solvents and hydrocarbons. YMMV.
John
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 5:44 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: heated pitot to plastic tube connector
Looked at archives and see questions on this but not the specific
adaptor I'll need for the heated pitot tube copper connector to the
plastic tubing I plan to use (instead of the aluminum).
anyone know what I need to make this connection happen?
Thanks!
Pascal
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comht
tp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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The only explanation I have is that the front seats were aft; secondly some
are using different datum. I would expect that the empty weight and arm
would come out near the forward limit which is 107.84 to my understanding;
aft limit is 116.24 using the datum in the instructions; hence my empty arm
is 109.13. The forward seats are adjustable forward by at least six inches.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: weight
Any thoughts as to the wide range of c.g.s shown on
<http://www.rvproject.com/wab/> and where yours came out?
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:07 PM, David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Wheel pants and fairings included, no paint yet but will weigh again
after
> paint (Matterhorn white Jetglo and Maroon trim.
>
> Engine is IO540D4A5 from Vans, Hartzell blended prop
>
> Seats are ultra leather on the astronaut couch green. Four point inertial
> belts: two are back of the Boeing style and two are flight deck rotary
> buckles.
>
> Dual Chelton displays, SL30, G327, Digiflite VSGV (switch able between
> Chelton, GRT or stand alone). GRT EIS 6000, PM6000 intercom. GRT Sport
EFIS
> with moving map for backup and the primary XM weather display.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 3:02 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: weight
>
>
> Dave, nice job
> would you add some details.
> Wheel fairings
> paint
> interior
> engine choice
> prop choice
> etc.
>
> Also you should submit this info to the RV weight and balance database
> <http://www.rvproject.com/wab/>
>
> Larry
>
> David McNeill wrote:
> >
> > Just weighed N46007 and the result is 1630. arm was 109.
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > *
>
>
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| Subject: | N104BS First Flight |
Congrats.
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: N104BS First Flight
After 3 years and 3 months of building, kit serial number 40308 flew at
08:48 in the morning on Saturday March 22nd as RV-10 N104BS. The flight
lasted 34 minutes with the only squawks being a audio problem resolved
by re-seating the audio panel and a non-reporting CHT probe. She may
not look pretty but flies great! I owe a special thanks to Dan Masys
(N104LD) for serving as my tireless technical counselor and flight
advisor. His help has been invaluable the entire project. Also thanks
to you Tim Olson for the information you supply to this community!
Brian Sutherland
#40308/ N104BS
Nashville, TN
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| Subject: | Re: N104BS First Flight |
Right on! Most excellent!
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Rene <rene@felker.com> wrote:
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> Congrats.
>
> Rene'
> 801-721-6080
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:31 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: N104BS First Flight
>
> After 3 years and 3 months of building, kit serial number 40308 flew at
> 08:48 in the morning on Saturday March 22nd as RV-10 N104BS. The flight
> lasted 34 minutes with the only squawks being a audio problem resolved
> by re-seating the audio panel and a non-reporting CHT probe. She may
> not look pretty but flies great! I owe a special thanks to Dan Masys
> (N104LD) for serving as my tireless technical counselor and flight
> advisor. His help has been invaluable the entire project. Also thanks
> to you Tim Olson for the information you supply to this community!
>
> Brian Sutherland
> #40308/ N104BS
> Nashville, TN
>
>
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Way to go David!
Do you have any photos of your seatbelt arrangement? I have to make a
belt choice real soon.
Since you are at it a Panel shout would be cool too.
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel pressure problems |
Agreed. Yawing the airplane will send the fuel to the same side of the
tank as the ball. In a coordinated turn the fuel does not move
(much).
Chase Snodgrass
Presidio, TX
http://flybigbend.com
Simultaneous RV-10 twins early stage
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:53 PM, John Ackerman <johnag5b@cableone.net> wrote:
> Could somebody please explain why a coordinated turn would make any
> difference here?
> I once flew with a well regarded instructor in his personal Glasair,
> (different airplane, David ) and got really tired of holding aileron to
> compensate for unequal lateral weight distribution. His solution was a steep
> turn toward the light wing. I did so just to avoid an argument, but it
> predictably did no good. This looks like the same idea to me.
> No flame war intended, I'm just wondering what I'm missing...
> John Ackerman 40458
>
>
> ...however it would still be possible to vent after a turn that immersed the
> internal tube end near the outboard edge. I have seen fuel venting in my
> Glastar in a moderate turn after takeoff with all tanks to the filler neck.
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Will send a couple of pics tomorrow, the computer that contains the current
ones is on its way to be repaired.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: weight
Way to go David!
Do you have any photos of your seatbelt arrangement? I have to make a
belt choice real soon.
Since you are at it a Panel shout would be cool too.
Robin
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Wayne,
I have had no personal experience with this place, but my wife tells me that
there is a place at Mecham that does them. One of the test pilots she works
with really likes their work and goes there often. I don't know what the name
of the place is, but it is next door to Air Source One pilot supplies. It's
off Main street in Fort Worth, right across from the airport. Nice thing about
them would be that you can walk in the front door and smack them around if
they don't deliver. :)
--Shawn
40366 - Wings
----- Original Message ----
From: Wayne Edgerton <wayne.e@grandecom.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 6:36:59 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 model
I've recently had a bad experience that I thought I would share with you so maybe you wont experience the same thing. Back in October of last year I ordered 3 plane models of my plane to be made, long story why 3, from Griffin Aerospace Models www.griffinaerospace.com and had to pay for them up front, which I didn't mind doing. They told me that I should hopefully have them by Xmas, which was what I wanted. Come Xmas time they said there had been some delays because of XYZ but should be here the end of Jan but if not for sure first week of Feb.
On the third week of Feb I e-mailed them
asking what the hold up was on the models. I also called and left them a
voice mail with the same question, they never answer their phone, I
received no response back from them. On march 9th I wrote them an e-mail, and
called and left a voice mail, saying that it had been 5 months since I ordered
the models and I needed them to respond and let me know when I could expect
delivery of the models and if they didn't respond I would have Master Card
reverse the charge for the models. I've never heard back from them and I have
now reversed the charges for the models. They never even responded back to
Master card on the reversing either.
I know that Tim had good luck, I think, with them
but they definitely are not on top of their game now. If anyone is considering
ordering a model of their plane I would suggest looking elsewhere other that
Griffin, based on my experience.
Has any of you had good luck with another model
maker?
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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