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1. 04:37 AM - Re: N104BS First Flight (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 06:15 AM - Re: New Builder - Tools (Lew Gallagher)
3. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: New Builder - Tools (Rene Felker)
4. 08:22 AM - Re: New Builder - Tools (Lenny Iszak)
5. 08:24 AM - Final Wing Attach Bolts (Roger Standley)
6. 08:45 AM - Re: Final Wing Attach Bolts (Rene Felker)
7. 09:11 AM - Heavy Wing and Trim (Rene Felker)
8. 10:24 AM - Emailing: IMG_0013 (2), IMG_0014 (2), IMG_0015 (2), IMG_0016 (2), IMG_0011 (2), IMG_0012 (2) (David McNeill)
9. 10:33 AM - Re: Final Wing Attach Bolts (David McNeill)
10. 10:35 AM - Re: Final Wing Attach Bolts (gary)
11. 10:50 AM - Re: Final Wing Attach Bolts (David McNeill)
12. 11:26 AM - Seat Belts (Robin Marks)
13. 12:14 PM - partners? (davidbf@centurytel.net)
14. 12:55 PM - Re: Seat Belts (David McNeill)
15. 01:31 PM - Re: partners? (linn Walters)
16. 02:06 PM - Re: Seat Belts (Bob Leffler)
17. 05:13 PM - Re: partners? (John Lenhardt)
18. 06:28 PM - Re: Mogas / Avgas Trivia (Dj Merrill)
19. 07:02 PM - Re: partners? (Jesse Saint)
20. 07:17 PM - Love Dave's Seat Belts (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
21. 07:30 PM - Re: Seat Belts (Rene)
22. 07:34 PM - Re: partners? (John Lenhardt)
23. 08:12 PM - Re: Mogas / Avgas Trivia (Rick Sked)
24. 08:25 PM - Re: partners? (Rick Sked)
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| Subject: | Re: N104BS First Flight |
Congratulations Brian on your first flight. That's really a great
feeling after all that time banging away building. Now comes the part of
sorting everything out and learning all your systems. I've been flying
since June of last year and I'm still learning new things, so the
process doesn't stop with your first flight, but it gets a little more
fun with it.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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| Subject: | Re: New Builder - Tools |
Hey Doug,
The guys here have been very helpful, but from observation and my own experience,
they've neglected the very first "tool" ... these things apparently can NOT
be built without a digital camera!
Also, what would be really helpful would be a list of all the acronyms ... IMHO
(in my humble opinion). I still haven't figured out some of them! And as a
non-pilot, you wouldn't believe the headaches I get trying to decipher all the
avionics, mechanics, navigation, communication, etc. abbreviations. As with
any new body of knowledge, I'm just immersing myself in it and waiting for it
to "osmose".
This is a great resource, I check it every day.
Thanks to all.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
doors almost finished, pants on, WHEW!
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| Subject: | Re: New Builder - Tools |
Speaking of digital tools. A digital/electronic level and laser line. Got
mine at home depot.....
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:12 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: New Builder - Tools
Hey Doug,
The guys here have been very helpful, but from observation and my own
experience, they've neglected the very first "tool" ... these things
apparently can NOT be built without a digital camera!
Also, what would be really helpful would be a list of all the acronyms ...
IMHO (in my humble opinion). I still haven't figured out some of them! And
as a non-pilot, you wouldn't believe the headaches I get trying to decipher
all the avionics, mechanics, navigation, communication, etc. abbreviations.
As with any new body of knowledge, I'm just immersing myself in it and
waiting for it to "osmose".
This is a great resource, I check it every day.
Thanks to all.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
doors almost finished, pants on, WHEW!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=171912#171912
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| Subject: | Re: New Builder - Tools |
Doug,
I picked up the coolest little tool a couple of days ago. I was deburring holes
with a larger drill bit, spinning it by hand. I got a slight carpal tunnel, and
my hand started to get numb very fast.
Went to Lowe's and picked up this Dremel Driver. It's small, fits in your hand,
the max rpm in 300, and the trigger is very controllable. You just have to use
a drill bit with a hex shank. Check out the attached picture.
Bought my toolkit from Isham (planetools) because it included the pneumatic squeezer
and the DRDT-2. I have this big grin on my face every time I use the dimpler
:)
I also picked up a hand squeezer from Avery. It's more accurate and has more control
than the pneumatic one.
I bought some little stuff from different suppliers and so far Avery has been the
fastest to ship my order.
This forum had been invaluable in researching the tools I needed. Thanks everyone!
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Regards,
Lenny
#40803
Rudder almost done
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| Subject: | Final Wing Attach Bolts |
=0AI am just about ready to final install the wings and was trying
the wing attach bolts. They sure are tight! The threaded portion just
fits but the unthreaded portion wants to bind. Is this the way it is s
upposed to be? =0A=0AWhat have others done? The instructions say
to use a little oil. So do I just oil them up and drive them in with
a wooden hammer?=0A=0ARoger=0A40291=0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Final Wing Attach Bolts |
Yes, they are very tight. Once you get couple in, it gets a little easier.
A trick my brother-in-law showed me was to just use the flat set on the
rivet gun to drive them in. Back the pressure of so that they are being
driven very slowly. You can put a thin piece of wood or other material
between the gun and the bolt to cushion the hits.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Standley
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:22 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Final Wing Attach Bolts
I am just about ready to final install the wings and was trying the wing
attach bolts. They sure are tight! The threaded portion just fits but the
unthreaded portion wants to bind. Is this the way it is supposed to be?
What have others done? The instructions say to use a little oil. So do I
just oil them up and drive them in with a wooden hammer?
Roger
40291
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| Subject: | Heavy Wing and Trim |
Well, I have about 7 hours on the airplane and have sorted out the heavy
wing and elevator trim.
For the elevator time, it looks like it was just me, I was not expecting
that much nose down trim. I checked the rigging and I am now comfortable
with it. Over the next week or so, I will be adding weight, simulating
co-pilot and passengers and that will be the proof that it is right.
The heavy left wing had me a little concerned. I flew a couple of times and
re-rigged the ailerons. It seemed to be getting better, but not consistent.
So I started back to making sure everything was lined up. Measured angels
of wing tips, ailerons and flaps....oh flaps. My right flap was not all the
way up in the reflex position! I noted that I could pull up on it and it
came up into position..so I did that and went flying..problem fixed.
The root cause is that I was having some contact between the flap and
fuselage. So I got the file out and took a little more off the flap and got
it to more easily move in to position. Adjusted the linkage and it looks
like it is fixed. Flew fine yesterday. Got four hops in yesterday working
on the flaps and trim. Beautiful day in Utah, looks like another good one
today. I think I will finish up my work and head to the airport.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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(2), IMG_0011 (2), IMG_0012 (2)
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| Subject: | Final Wing Attach Bolts |
Use lps2 or lps3 for lube, oil will be too thick. The hole is about .0015
larger than the bolt. Another possibility is freeze the bolts and install
when much colder than the spar. Just be sure that they are in as required as
they will have to be driven out if necessary.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Final Wing Attach Bolts
Yes, they are very tight. Once you get couple in, it gets a little easier.
A trick my brother-in-law showed me was to just use the flat set on the
rivet gun to drive them in. Back the pressure of so that they are being
driven very slowly. You can put a thin piece of wood or other material
between the gun and the bolt to cushion the hits.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Standley
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:22 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Final Wing Attach Bolts
I am just about ready to final install the wings and was trying the wing
attach bolts. They sure are tight! The threaded portion just fits but the
unthreaded portion wants to bind. Is this the way it is supposed to be?
What have others done? The instructions say to use a little oil. So do I
just oil them up and drive them in with a wooden hammer?
Roger
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| Subject: | Final Wing Attach Bolts |
Yes they are tight, but I drove them in with a dead blow hammer and a block
of wood to prevent damage to the head. I think the key is Lubrication on
the shank and a big enough hammer and sufficient protection for the bolts.
Gary
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DAR inspection scheduled
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Standley
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:22 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Final Wing Attach Bolts
I am just about ready to final install the wings and was trying the wing
attach bolts. They sure are tight! The threaded portion just fits but the
unthreaded portion wants to bind. Is this the way it is supposed to be?
What have others done? The instructions say to use a little oil. So do I
just oil them up and drive them in with a wooden hammer?
Roger
40291
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| Subject: | Final Wing Attach Bolts |
One other thing: install the wing by pinning in place with two of the ACE
bolts then start the close tolerance stuff. Freezing should be very easy. I
have used that trick on other interference fit items. I did not think of it
for this but it will work fine.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Final Wing Attach Bolts
Use lps2 or lps3 for lube, oil will be too thick. The hole is about .0015
larger than the bolt. Another possibility is freeze the bolts and install
when much colder than the spar. Just be sure that they are in as required as
they will have to be driven out if necessary.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Final Wing Attach Bolts
Yes, they are very tight. Once you get couple in, it gets a little easier.
A trick my brother-in-law showed me was to just use the flat set on the
rivet gun to drive them in. Back the pressure of so that they are being
driven very slowly. You can put a thin piece of wood or other material
between the gun and the bolt to cushion the hits.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Standley
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:22 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Final Wing Attach Bolts
I am just about ready to final install the wings and was trying the wing
attach bolts. They sure are tight! The threaded portion just fits but the
unthreaded portion wants to bind. Is this the way it is supposed to be?
What have others done? The instructions say to use a little oil. So do I
just oil them up and drive them in with a wooden hammer?
Roger
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David,
I especially like the single use sanitary control sticks for
the ultimate in flying hygiene.
Are there any clearance issues with the pax climbing in the
back seats hitting the belt retract device or is that not an issue at
all?
Thanks,
Robin
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I have a flying 6 and am contemplating building a 10 but the only way I could
justify if to my wife is if I somehow had partners in ownership. I'm honestly
not comfortable with partnerships in anything but I suppose if its drawn up
right and everyone agrees I think it could work out for everyone. I would like
to keep my 6 but have a four place to use when desired. My question is if there
are any FAA legalities that would not allow this or a flying club of sorts with
an experimental or if there are insurance issues. Is anyone aware if this is a
go or no-go possibility?
Dave Ford
RV6 N516D
Cadillac, MI
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Hard to say since I am not flying yet, but it does not seem to interfere
with entry or exit and does not clutter the forward view for me in the rear
seat; Those sanitary cloaks on the sticks are to keep the fiberglass dust at
bay. Rene is flying with the belts; and John Miller aka Gengrumpy is flying
with them.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Seat Belts
David,
I especially like the single use sanitary control sticks for the
ultimate in flying hygiene.
Are there any clearance issues with the pax climbing in the back
seats hitting the belt retract device or is that not an issue at all?
Thanks,
Robin
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Log onto AOPA and look for their partnership agreement ...... and modify
as you and the partner see fit. Like you, I've never had a partner but
will start with the AOPA guidelines if I ever do.
Linn
davidbf@centurytel.net wrote:
>
>I have a flying 6 and am contemplating building a 10 but the only way I could
>justify if to my wife is if I somehow had partners in ownership. I'm honestly
>not comfortable with partnerships in anything but I suppose if its drawn up
>right and everyone agrees I think it could work out for everyone. I would like
>to keep my 6 but have a four place to use when desired. My question is if there
>are any FAA legalities that would not allow this or a flying club of sorts with
>an experimental or if there are insurance issues. Is anyone aware if this is
a
>go or no-go possibility?
>
>Dave Ford
>RV6 N516D
>Cadillac, MI
>
>
>
>
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Dave Saylor has them in his RV-10. I had no issues getting in or out of the
back seat with them installed. I never even noticed them. It's really a
non issue.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat Belts
Hard to say since I am not flying yet, but it does not seem to interfere
with entry or exit and does not clutter the forward view for me in the rear
seat; Those sanitary cloaks on the sticks are to keep the fiberglass dust at
bay. Rene is flying with the belts; and John Miller aka Gengrumpy is flying
with them.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Seat Belts
David,
I especially like the single use sanitary control sticks for the
ultimate in flying hygiene.
Are there any clearance issues with the pax climbing in the back
seats hitting the belt retract device or is that not an issue at all?
Thanks,
Robin
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The only drawback is the partnership can not be "the builder." One
person will have to be listed in the FAA paperwork as the official
builder. That's the person who will have the liability too.
John Lenhardt
#40626
----- Original Message -----
From: davidbf@centurytel.net
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: RV10-List: partners?
I have a flying 6 and am contemplating building a 10 but the only way
I could
justify if to my wife is if I somehow had partners in ownership. I'm
honestly
not comfortable with partnerships in anything but I suppose if its
drawn up
right and everyone agrees I think it could work out for everyone. I
would like
to keep my 6 but have a four place to use when desired. My question
is if there
are any FAA legalities that would not allow this or a flying club of
sorts with
an experimental or if there are insurance issues. Is anyone aware if
this is a
go or no-go possibility?
Dave Ford
RV6 N516D
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: Mogas / Avgas Trivia |
<http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp>
<http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp>
fyi,
-Dj
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Actually, I believe you can have as many people as you want listed as
builders, as long as they helped on it, but only one can get the
repairman's certificate.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 23, 2008, at 7:13 PM, John Lenhardt wrote:
> The only drawback is the partnership can not be "the builder." One
> person will have to be listed in the FAA paperwork as the official
> builder. That's the person who will have the liability too.
>
> John Lenhardt
> #40626
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| Subject: | Love Dave's Seat Belts |
I love the belts and retractors!
Grumpy
N184JM
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In a message dated 3/23/2008 2:57:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
dlm46007@cox.net writes:
Hard to say since I am not flying yet, but it does not seem to interfere
with entry or exit and does not clutter the forward view for me in the rear
seat; Those sanitary cloaks on the sticks are to keep the fiberglass dust at bay.
Rene is flying with the belts; and John Miller aka Gengrumpy is flying with
them.
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With just a little over 10 hours flying, I have not had the chance to
have
passengers. I have had occasion to get in and out of the back seat and
have
not had a problem with them. I am only 5'9", but don't think a larger
person will have a problem considering their location. The only problem
I
have had is that I have not made hangers for the front seat shoulder
belts
and it is a pain to reach back and grab the belts once you move the seat
up.
Suddenly all the finishing work I have left to do is not getting
done..flying is much more fun.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Seat Belts
David,
I especially like the single use sanitary control sticks for
the
ultimate in flying hygiene.
Are there any clearance issues with the pax climbing in the
back
seats hitting the belt retract device or is that not an issue at all?
Thanks,
Robin
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This again maybe by each FSDO (I have to deal with Richmond, VA). We're
required to have only one actual live person's name as the manufacturer.
The ownership type can be partnership. And yes, only one person can
apply for the repairman's cert. YMMV
John Lenhardt
#40262
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Saint
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: partners?
Actually, I believe you can have as many people as you want listed as
builders, as long as they helped on it, but only one can get the
repairman's certificate.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 23, 2008, at 7:13 PM, John Lenhardt wrote:
The only drawback is the partnership can not be "the builder." One
person will have to be listed in the FAA paperwork as the official
builder. That's the person who will have the liability too.
John Lenhardt
#40626
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| Subject: | Re: Mogas / Avgas Trivia |
So you think Venezuela? Yeah let's fund Chavez...that's another option...sorry...off
topic, my bad, politics non gratus.
Rick S.
40185
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From: "Dj Merrill" <deej@deej.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:24:20 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Mogas / Avgas Trivia
<http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp>
<http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp>
fyi,
-Dj
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You may want to consider a corporation, actually a LLC,=C2-to own the air
craft, with one of the members as the "managing partner" who holds the repa
ir certificate. It would also provide a corporate umbrella protecting the "
individuals" from certain liabilities. If one of the partners wants out, ev
eryone votes and has to buy them out...seperates friends and institutes leg
al "civility"=C2- But......check with your local favorite=C2-legal eagl
e and CPA...mileage may vary and I'm just brianstormin. FWIW, I would avoid
boilerplate legal agreements, when considering such a specific contract, e
xact verbage and state specific law may really come into play. When your lo
oking at possible=C2-$200K+ (Heh heh,=C2- I just passed that number)=C2
-=C2-investment, as with everything else associated with the cost of th
is plane...whats another $500 to $1000 bucks to make sure every party is pr
otected OR the perfect tool for the job.
PS-I just realized I spent almost 8 times the amount=C2-on my O2 system t
han I did my first car in 1973,=C2-My Dad co-signed a $700 loan to teach
me financial responsibility. $42 buck a month. Times sure have changed.
Rick S.
40185
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Lenhardt" <av8or@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:31:38 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: partners?
This again maybe by each FSDO (I have to deal with Richmond, VA).=C2- We'
re required to have only one actual live person's name as the manufacturer.
=C2- The ownership type can be partnership.=C2- And yes, only one perso
n can apply for the repairman's cert.=C2- YMMV
John Lenhardt
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Saint
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: partners?
Actually, I believe you can have as many people as you want listed as build
ers, as long as they helped on it, but only one can get the repairman's cer
tificate.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Mar 23, 2008, at 7:13 PM, John Lenhardt wrote:
The only drawback is the partnership can not be "the builder."=C2- One pe
rson will have to be listed in the FAA paperwork as the official builder.
=C2- That's the person who will have the liability too.
John Lenhardt
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