RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 03/28/08


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 09:14 AM - Re: Replacing the plastic brake lines... (Chris Johnston)
     2. 10:04 AM - Re: IO-540 C2C Mounting Ears (Nick Leonard)
     3. 11:06 AM - XM WX Accuracy (Robin Marks)
     4. 11:38 AM - Re: XM WX Accuracy (William Curtis)
     5. 11:59 AM - Re: XM WX Accuracy (Michael Schipper)
     6. 12:56 PM - Re: XM WX Accuracy (Gerry Filby)
     7. 03:19 PM - Re: XM WX Accuracy (Marcus Cooper)
     8. 03:20 PM - Re: Adding Air to Main Tires (Marcus Cooper)
     9. 06:11 PM - Re: Replacing the plastic brake lines... (John Hurst)
    10. 06:28 PM - Re: Re: counter sinking canopy holes (Thane States)
    11. 06:45 PM - Re: XM WX Accuracy (Bill DeRouchey)
    12. 07:33 PM - Re: XM WX Accuracy (Marcus Cooper)
    13. 08:30 PM - Re: Replacing the plastic brake lines... ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:14:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Replacing the plastic brake lines...
    From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
    I spoke with Brett at Bonaco last night, and he said that the pricing isn't finalized for the brake lines for the RV-10. I'm being the guinea pig so that he can get the lengths nailed down, and then you'll be able to just call an order lines for your 10 without any hassle. As to a group buy, if there's interest, I'd be happy to speak with Brett and see if he's willing. I'd venture a guess and say that it seems like a real possibility. cj -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Replacing the plastic brake lines... I wonder if Brett would be interested in a group buy. Bob Leffler wrote: > > So is Brett ready to start making lines for all your RV-10 buddies? > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris > Johnston > *Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:11 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Replacing the plastic brake lines... > > Hey all - > > Once upon a time I had looked into swapping the plastic brake lines > out for braided steel lines, and there were varying opinions for and > against. Well I changed them the other day, and am really happy with > the results. For those interested: > > http://tinyurl.com/2njcjk > > I'm really happy with the results. > > cj > > #40410 > > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net <http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/> > > finishing/firewall forward/panel wiring/etc... > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > ** > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > * * > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 2979 (20080327) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 2979 (20080327) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > * > > > *


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    Time: 10:04:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: IO-540 C2C Mounting Ears
    From: "Nick Leonard" <nick@nleonard.com>
    Thanks to everyone for their input. This certainly saved me a great deal of grief in the future. Easier to replace the mounts now and get the right ones than figure out why it wasn't fitting correctly later. My appreciation to all of you for your help. Nick -------- Nick Leonard RV-10 (40015) Finish Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173280#173280


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    Time: 11:06:29 AM PST US
    Subject: XM WX Accuracy
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Dear List, I have been bugged for some time about the Winds Aloft readings I often get on my Garmin 396 using XM WX Aviator LT ($29.95/month) package. I have video footage of me flying in my RV-6A indicating 194 knots (Ground Speed) and a 90 degree Cross Wind component of 4 knots. I also have video of me cursing at the same altitude, same direction, same power settings indicating 140 knots (Ground Speed) which is well below my typical cruising speed and the XM wings aloft is indicating 0 knots. I believe don't actually receive the Winds Aloft data because of my pricing package (Aviator Lt) but I have no idea why the Garmin displays Winds data for me to misinterpret. I contacted XM, Real Weather (I think that is the data providers name) and Garmin with no satisfactory answer. Anyone know what data is showing up in the Garmin Winds data box? Thanks, Robin


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    Time: 11:38:58 AM PST US
    Subject: XM WX Accuracy
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    You realize that Winds Aloft published by any weather service is a forecast right. Does the 396 integrate forecast data with ground speed to extrapolate (non calculate since not enough data is provided) winds aloft? I can't speak for the 396 but in order to calculate actual winds aloft, you need the Indicated altitude, CAS, barometer setting, temperature, heading AND ground speed. If you have a full function GPS like the GNS-430/530, use the Density Alt / TAS / Winds function on the first page of the Aux menu--see page 134 of the GNS-430 manual. This will give you VERY accurate Density Alt, TAS and wind component. Without those additional data points, the portable 396 can only make a best guess on actual wind component. William http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/ -------- Original Message -------- > > Dear List, > > I have been bugged for some time about the Winds Aloft > readings I often get on my Garmin 396 using XM WX Aviator LT > ($29.95/month) package. I have video footage of me flying in my RV-6A > indicating 194 knots (Ground Speed) and a 90 degree Cross Wind component > of 4 knots. I also have video of me cursing at the same altitude, same > direction, same power settings indicating 140 knots (Ground Speed) which > is well below my typical cruising speed and the XM wings aloft is > indicating 0 knots. > > I believe don't actually receive the Winds Aloft data > because of my pricing package (Aviator Lt) but I have no idea why the > Garmin displays Winds data for me to misinterpret. I contacted XM, Real > Weather (I think that is the data providers name) and Garmin with no > satisfactory answer. Anyone know what data is showing up in the Garmin > Winds data box? > > > > Thanks, > > Robin


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    Time: 11:59:41 AM PST US
    From: Michael Schipper <mike@learningplanet.com>
    Subject: Re: XM WX Accuracy
    Robin, When I signed up for my XM weather subscription I remember specifically having to fork out the extra $$ per month because the Winds Aloft wasn't part of the LT package. They tend to change their packages however, so you might want to check with XM. Clearly the Garmin shouldn't be showing any data if it is unreliable or unavailable, so there may be a software issue as well. As far as accuracy goes, I get real-time wind information on the GRT EFIS, and most of the time the Winds Aloft data is pretty close. I only use winds aloft to get a general idea of what altitude I want to aim for. Sometimes the actual wind data causes me to adjust my plans. Just one data point. I'm sure others will comment. Regards, Mike Schipper RV-9A - N63MS - Flying - www.my9a.com RV-10 #576 - Slow-build Fuselage - www.rvten.com On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > Dear List, > I have been bugged for some time about the Winds Aloft > readings I often get on my Garmin 396 using XM WX Aviator LT ($29.95/ > month) package. I have video footage of me flying in my RV-6A > indicating 194 knots (Ground Speed) and a 90 degree Cross Wind > component of 4 knots. I also have video of me cursing at the same > altitude, same direction, same power settings indicating 140 knots > (Ground Speed) which is well below my typical cruising speed and the > XM wings aloft is indicating 0 knots. > I believe don=92t actually receive the Winds Aloft data > because of my pricing package (Aviator Lt) but I have no idea why > the Garmin displays Winds data for me to misinterpret. I contacted > XM, Real Weather (I think that is the data providers name) and > Garmin with no satisfactory answer. Anyone know what data is showing > up in the Garmin Winds data box? > > Thanks, > Robin > >


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    Time: 12:56:03 PM PST US
    From: "Gerry Filby" <gerf@gerf.com>
    Subject: XM WX Accuracy
    Something else to consider is the AGL your viewing data for - closer to the ground the more the accuracy is likely to be affected by local terrain - I can't imagine that they're compensating for that with any reliability. Case in point is the San Francisco Bay Area - I've seen 180 degree variations from the forecast below 6,000' on my 496. Having said that - compared to "VOR"s and DUATS these little 496s are almost magical, at this point it's on my critical equipment list. Having said that - it runs on electrons and it's programmed by geeks like me - bring along your sectionals and always get a full weather briefing before departing :) g _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Schipper Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:54 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: XM WX Accuracy Robin, When I signed up for my XM weather subscription I remember specifically having to fork out the extra $$ per month because the Winds Aloft wasn't part of the LT package. They tend to change their packages however, so you might want to check with XM. Clearly the Garmin shouldn't be showing any data if it is unreliable or unavailable, so there may be a software issue as well. As far as accuracy goes, I get real-time wind information on the GRT EFIS, and most of the time the Winds Aloft data is pretty close. I only use winds aloft to get a general idea of what altitude I want to aim for. Sometimes the actual wind data causes me to adjust my plans. Just one data point. I'm sure others will comment. Regards, Mike Schipper RV-9A - N63MS - Flying - www.my9a.com RV-10 #576 - Slow-build Fuselage - www.rvten.com On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Robin Marks wrote: Dear List, I have been bugged for some time about the Winds Aloft readings I often get on my Garmin 396 using XM WX Aviator LT ($29.95/month) package. I have video footage of me flying in my RV-6A indicating 194 knots (Ground Speed) and a 90 degree Cross Wind component of 4 knots. I also have video of me cursing at the same altitude, same direction, same power settings indicating 140 knots (Ground Speed) which is well below my typical cruising speed and the XM wings aloft is indicating 0 knots. I believe don't actually receive the Winds Aloft data because of my pricing package (Aviator Lt) but I have no idea why the Garmin displays Winds data for me to misinterpret. I contacted XM, Real Weather (I think that is the data providers name) and Garmin with no satisfactory answer. Anyone know what data is showing up in the Garmin Winds data box? Thanks, Robin http://forums.matronics.com style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:19:56 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: XM WX Accuracy
    Along similar lines but slightly different, I've been frustrated at the update rate on my 496 WX on the METAR pages. The map view cloud WX display is usually fairly fresh, but the META page is often several hours old and never seems to update even though the info is typically updated on the hour. Does anyone know how to force an update or improve the update rate? I tried turning the machine off then on but didn't really get a good response. Thanks, Marcus From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: XM WX Accuracy Dear List, I have been bugged for some time about the Winds Aloft readings I often get on my Garmin 396 using XM WX Aviator LT ($29.95/month) package. I have video footage of me flying in my RV-6A indicating 194 knots (Ground Speed) and a 90 degree Cross Wind component of 4 knots. I also have video of me cursing at the same altitude, same direction, same power settings indicating 140 knots (Ground Speed) which is well below my typical cruising speed and the XM wings aloft is indicating 0 knots. I believe don't actually receive the Winds Aloft data because of my pricing package (Aviator Lt) but I have no idea why the Garmin displays Winds data for me to misinterpret. I contacted XM, Real Weather (I think that is the data providers name) and Garmin with no satisfactory answer. Anyone know what data is showing up in the Garmin Winds data box? Thanks, Robin


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    Time: 03:20:17 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: Adding Air to Main Tires
    I opted for a similar method but used a metal plug from Lowe's aircraft supply that works great. Marcus 40286 Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:42 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Adding Air to Main Tires With a 2" hole and a pressure meter that has the angle on the end (about 45%, I think), you can get in there and check it. The location of the hole is fairly important, of course. I center it 2" or 2.5" behind and 1/2" above the center of the axle extender screw point and put in a Cirrus 2" plastic plug. It isn't perfect, but it works. You have to leave the cap off the valve stem, though. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Mar 27, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Robin Marks wrote: Dear List, My plan for my main wheel pants was to create some sort of access door on the wheel pant to allow me to fill my mains w/o removing the front part of the wheel pant. Simple enough till I looked at the stem of my tire that points straight at my axel extension at basically 90 degrees to the side of the wheel pant. Rats! Nothing is simple. This valve orientation will require an excessively large door for access. Not practical. I found a 90 degree Schrader valve adapter but I am not sure that is a good solution as it will probably rub on the axel extension and may also be too long. Are there any builders that have found a solution to this issue. Thanks, Robin <image001.jpg>


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    Time: 06:11:23 PM PST US
    From: John Hurst <johnh38@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Replacing the plastic brake lines...
    I'm interesterd in the group buy when/if it becomes available. John 40102 Chris Johnston <CJohnston@popsound.com> wrote: I spoke with Brett at Bonaco last night, and he said that the pricing isn't finalized for the brake lines for the RV-10. I'm being the guinea pig so that he can get the lengths nailed down, and then you'll be able to just call an order lines for your 10 without any hassle. As to a group buy, if there's interest, I'd be happy to speak with Brett and see if he's willing. I'd venture a guess and say that it seems like a real possibility. cj -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Replacing the plastic brake lines... I wonder if Brett would be interested in a group buy. Bob Leffler wrote: > > So is Brett ready to start making lines for all your RV-10 buddies? > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris > Johnston > *Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:11 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Replacing the plastic brake lines... > > Hey all - > > Once upon a time I had looked into swapping the plastic brake lines > out for braided steel lines, and there were varying opinions for and > against. Well I changed them the other day, and am really happy with > the results. For those interested: > > http://tinyurl.com/2njcjk > > I'm really happy with the results. > > cj > > #40410 > > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net > > finishing/firewall forward/panel wiring/etc... > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > ** > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > * * > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 2979 (20080327) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 2979 (20080327) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > * > > > *


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    Time: 06:28:24 PM PST US
    From: "Thane States" <thane2@comporium.net>
    Subject: Re: counter sinking canopy holes
    Lew, my e-mail is Thane2@comporium.net Thanks so much. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: counter sinking canopy holes > > Hey Eric(5) and Thane(6), > > How about emailing me your email address so I can keep you posted, confirm > address, etc. We're still waiting for the seatbelts, so I may send the > countersink on to those who already have theirs, then get it back at the > end of the line. This "traveling tool" thing works so fast, we weren't > ready for it so soon! > > Later, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > doors almost finished, pants on, WHEW! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172365#172365 > > >


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    Time: 06:45:24 PM PST US
    From: Bill DeRouchey <billderou@yahoo.com>
    Subject: XM WX Accuracy
    I just finished integrating XM weather into my "for education" glass displays and this topic is fresh on my mind. The Aviator LT package ($29.99) does not provide winds aloft. The technical call regarding why the 396 has confused you should go to Garmin. Real time weather flows from the XM receiver every 5 minutes (almost on the second). TFR data is downloaded every 10 minutes. It is surprising how quickly the TFRs change. The central Metars database is updated from all stations each hour and transmitted every 10 minutes. The ZULU times at the leading edge of the metar should always be less than 70 minutes from actual ZULU time. Bill DeRouchey N939SB, now flying outside the Magenta Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote: Along similar lines but slightly different, Ive been frustrated at the update rate on my 496 WX on the METAR pages. The map view cloud WX display is usually fairly fresh, but the META page is often several hours old and never seems to update even though the info is typically updated on the hour. Does anyone know how to force an update or improve the update rate? I tried turning the machine off then on but didnt really get a good response. Thanks, Marcus From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: XM WX Accuracy Dear List, I have been bugged for some time about the Winds Aloft readings I often get on my Garmin 396 using XM WX Aviator LT ($29.95/month) package. I have video footage of me flying in my RV-6A indicating 194 knots (Ground Speed) and a 90 degree Cross Wind component of 4 knots. I also have video of me cursing at the same altitude, same direction, same power settings indicating 140 knots (Ground Speed) which is well below my typical cruising speed and the XM wings aloft is indicating 0 knots. I believe dont actually receive the Winds Aloft data because of my pricing package (Aviator Lt) but I have no idea why the Garmin displays Winds data for me to misinterpret. I contacted XM, Real Weather (I think that is the data providers name) and Garmin with no satisfactory answer. Anyone know what data is showing up in the Garmin Winds data box? Thanks, Robin http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 07:33:15 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: XM WX Accuracy
    Bill, Thanks for the words. My expectations are in line with your info about the METAR updates, but I routinely see ZULU times associated with the METAR info several hours old. I guess I should give Garmin a call as there are certainly times when data that old can be misleading. Marcus From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill DeRouchey Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:42 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: XM WX Accuracy I just finished integrating XM weather into my "for education" glass displays and this topic is fresh on my mind. The Aviator LT package ($29.99) does not provide winds aloft. The technical call regarding why the 396 has confused you should go to Garmin. Real time weather flows from the XM receiver every 5 minutes (almost on the second). TFR data is downloaded every 10 minutes. It is surprising how quickly the TFRs change. The central Metars database is updated from all stations each hour and transmitted every 10 minutes. The ZULU times at the leading edge of the metar should always be less than 70 minutes from actual ZULU time. Bill DeRouchey N939SB, now flying outside the Magenta Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote: Along similar lines but slightly different, I've been frustrated at the update rate on my 496 WX on the METAR pages. The map view cloud WX display is usually fairly fresh, but the META page is often several hours old and never seems to update even though the info is typically updated on the hour. Does anyone know how to force an update or improve the update rate? I tried turning the machine off then on but didn't really get a good response. Thanks, Marcus From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: XM WX Accuracy Dear List, I have been bugged for some time about the Winds Aloft readings I often get on my Garmin 396 using XM WX Aviator LT ($29.95/month) package. I have video footage of me flying in my RV-6A indicating 194 knots (Ground Speed) and a 90 degree Cross Wind component of 4 knots. I also have video of me cursing at the same altitude, same direction, same power settings indicating 140 knots (Ground Speed) which is well below my typical cruising speed and the XM wings aloft is indicating 0 knots. I believe don't actually receive the Winds Aloft data because of my pricing package (Aviator Lt) but I have no idea why the Garmin displays Winds data for me to misinterpret. I contacted XM, Real Weather (I think that is the data providers name) and Garmin with no satisfactory answer. Anyone know what data is showing up in the Garmin Winds data box? Thanks, Robin http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 08:30:15 PM PST US
    From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Replacing the plastic brake lines...
    I am also interested Steve Mills N750SM (reserved) RV-10 40486 Slow-build Eggenfellner E-6TI Naperville, Illinois Finishing kit, engine install Do Not Archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hurst Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Replacing the plastic brake lines... I'm interesterd in the group buy when/if it becomes available. John 40102 Chris Johnston <CJohnston@popsound.com> wrote: I spoke with Brett at Bonaco last night, and he said that the pricing isn't finalized for the brake lines for the RV-10. I'm being the guinea pig so that he can get the lengths nailed down, and then you'll be able to just call an order lines for your 10 without any hassle. As to a group buy, if there's interest, I'd be happy to speak with Brett and see if he's willing. I'd venture a guess and say that it seems like a real possibility. cj -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Replacing the plastic brake lines... I wonder if Brett would be interested in a group buy. Bob Leffler wrote: > > So is Brett ready to start making lines for all your RV-10 buddies? > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris > Johnston > *Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:11 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Replacing the plastic brake lines... > > Hey all - > > Once upon a time I had looked into swapping the plastic brake lines > out for braided steel lines, and there were varying opinions for and > against. Well I changed them the other day, and am really happy with > the results. For those interested: > > http://tinyurl.com/2njcjk > > I'm really happy with the results. > > cj > > #40410 > > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net > > finishing/firewall forward/panel wiring/etc... > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > ** > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > * * > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 2979 (20080327) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus




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