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1. 12:11 AM - Flexible Fuel Lines (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
2. 03:24 AM - Re: Rivetting Bottom Skins (Bob Leffler)
3. 05:47 AM - Re: Rivetting Bottom Skins (gary)
4. 05:47 AM - Re: Rivetting Bottom Skins (Fred Williams, M.D.)
5. 05:47 AM - Re: Rivetting Bottom Skins (orchidman)
6. 06:36 AM - HS Attachment Bars (Kent Ogden)
7. 07:07 AM - Re: HS Attachment Bars (johngoodman)
8. 07:27 AM - Re: Sun-n-Fun (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
9. 07:46 AM - Re: Sun-n-Fun (linn Walters)
10. 07:46 AM - Re: Rivetting Bottom Skins (Ben Westfall)
11. 08:18 AM - Re: HS Attachment Bars (Kent Ogden)
12. 08:22 AM - Re: HS Attachment Bars (Kent Ogden)
13. 09:43 AM - Cost effective parking brake solution (Matco) ($170) (AirMike)
14. 12:20 PM - couldn't hurt (dogsbark@comcast.net)
15. 12:53 PM - Re: couldn't hurt (gary)
16. 01:07 PM - Service Ceiling (Rene Felker)
17. 01:23 PM - N789AB FLIES (Barry Marz)
18. 01:36 PM - Re: Service Ceiling (John W. Cox)
19. 01:42 PM - Re: N789AB FLIES (Rene Felker)
20. 01:50 PM - Re: N789AB FLIES (Tim Olson)
21. 01:59 PM - Re: Service Ceiling (Rene Felker)
22. 04:18 PM - Re: Service Ceiling (Kelly McMullen)
23. 04:20 PM - Re: Sun-n-Fun (Marcus Cooper)
24. 04:52 PM - Re: N789AB FLIES (Deems Davis)
25. 05:59 PM - Primer overhead console and cabin interior (jayb)
26. 08:04 PM - Re: Primer overhead console and cabin interior (AirMike)
27. 08:09 PM - Re: N789AB FLIES (AirMike)
28. 08:18 PM - Re: Service Ceiling (Rene)
29. 08:19 PM - Re: Primer overhead console and cabin interior (Tim Olson)
30. 08:21 PM - Re: Flexible Fuel Lines (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
31. 08:24 PM - Re: Primer overhead console and cabin interior (David McNeill)
32. 08:26 PM - Re: Primer overhead console and cabin interior (Fred Williams, M.D.)
33. 09:15 PM - Re: Flexible Fuel Lines (Rene)
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Subject: | Flexible Fuel Lines |
I want to run flexible fuel lines from just outside the fuselage to make
the wing root connection. Has anyone else done similar? Length of line
used? Source?
Thanks,
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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Subject: | Rivetting Bottom Skins |
I can't offer an opinion on this one quite yet, since I'll just be putting
on the top skins in the next week or so.
I just had the local EAA chapter over to visit my project. One of the
questions I was asked was why the RV-10 didn't require the use of a wing
jig. Anyone know the answer?
It appears to for the other RV models, building a wing jig and getting
everything straight was one of their more frustrating tasks. The 3 or 4
builders that had completed both RV-7s and RV-8s were surprised that the
instructions to build the RV-10 wing were just to clamp to the work bench.
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Subject: | Rivetting Bottom Skins |
No Jig is needed and the wing is dead on because of the prepunch holes.
Gary
40274
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:18 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rivetting Bottom Skins
I can't offer an opinion on this one quite yet, since I'll just be putting
on the top skins in the next week or so.
I just had the local EAA chapter over to visit my project. One of the
questions I was asked was why the RV-10 didn't require the use of a wing
jig. Anyone know the answer?
It appears to for the other RV models, building a wing jig and getting
everything straight was one of their more frustrating tasks. The 3 or 4
builders that had completed both RV-7s and RV-8s were surprised that the
instructions to build the RV-10 wing were just to clamp to the work bench.
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Subject: | Re: Rivetting Bottom Skins |
Bob:
We don't need a jig because of the matched holes and the accuracy of
placement on the parts. When they all line up, the wing is straight.
Probably _better_ than any jig we could build at home.
Fred Williams
Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> I cant offer an opinion on this one quite yet, since Ill just be
> putting on the top skins in the next week or so.
>
> I just had the local EAA chapter over to visit my project. One of the
> questions I was asked was why the RV-10 didnt require the use of a
> wing jig. Anyone know the answer?
>
> It appears to for the other RV models, building a wing jig and getting
> everything straight was one of their more frustrating tasks. The 3 or
> 4 builders that had completed both RV-7s and RV-8s were surprised that
> the instructions to build the RV-10 wing were just to clamp to the
> work bench.
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> Checked by AVG.
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Subject: | Re: Rivetting Bottom Skins |
Cradle here.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
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Subject: | HS Attachment Bars |
All,
I just started my tailcone, and when I went to drill the HS-1011C
horizontal stabilizer attachment bars, I found that the pre-punched holes
were conical in shape. That is, one side of the hole is a bit larger than
the other, larger than the #30 bit used to match drill. I understand that
this is probably the result of punching a hole through such a thick piece,
but it seems like this would leave a lot of slop for the rivet. Just wanted
to check whether others noticed this as well? Should the larger side of the
hole be put against the bulkhead?
Kent Ogden
#40710 (real) slow build
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Subject: | Re: HS Attachment Bars |
Are you talking about the F 1011C on page 10-3?
If the hole is too big you might want to contact Vans for a replacement.
John
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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Last year when I fly down, we landed at Bartow (KBOW) because w
e arrived when the show was still on. We killed time on the ground there u
ntil the Show was over than we refueled (Cheapest gas around here as well)
and headed back into he air. Like others have said, it took about 30 minut
es for the departures to finish before they would let arrivals begin, which
was around 30 minutes after the show. It was a nice tour flying in and ar
ound Lakeland while listen to the radio for when they were going to start a
ccepting arrivals.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
N519RV (40250)
370 Hrs on the Hobbs after a 15.8 Hr, 2273nm trip from Gardner, KS to Dalla
s, TX to Lakeland, FL and back to Kansas.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-n-Fun
Marcus Cooper wrote:
I'm hoping to get down to Lakeland on Fri or Sat at the end of the show and
was reading the arrival NOTAM. It mentioned arrivals are not 'routinely'
accepted until AFTER 1830 everyday. Any with previous experience found tha
t to be the case? Seems awfully late in the day to start accepting airplan
es considering how many show up.
The airshow goes to 5:00 and they need to get the departures out ...... bef
ore the arrivals ...... is my guess.
Secondly, are most folks planning on parking in homebuilt and camping, or
parking at HBC (homebuilt camping) and living with their airplane? Seems l
ike this may have been hashed out already so sorry if it's a repeat questio
n.
I can't help there. I live in a camper the whole week ..... and it's alrea
dy onsite.
By the way, there are quite a few changes to the site .... go to http://www
.sun-n-fun.org/content/ and peruse the web site for a lot of info. I was a
t the volunteer meeting yesterday, and they've already got about 1/2 of the
tents up. Last year they were still getting stuff up on opening day!!!
Linn
do not archive
Thanks,
Marcus
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And Bartow has a restuarant now!!!
Linn
do not archive
Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote:
> Last year when I fly down, we landed at Bartow (KBOW)
> because we arrived when the show was still on. We killed time on the
> ground there until the Show was over than we refueled (Cheapest gas
> around here as well) and headed back into he air. Like others have
> said, it took about 30 minutes for the departures to finish before
> they would let arrivals begin, which was around 30 minutes after the
> show. It was a nice tour flying in and around Lakeland while listen
> to the radio for when they were going to start accepting arrivals.
>
>
>
> Thank You
> Ray Doerr
> N519RV (40250)
>
> 370 Hrs on the Hobbs after a 15.8 Hr, 2273nm trip from Gardner, KS to
> Dallas, TX to Lakeland, FL and back to Kansas.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:42 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-n-Fun
>
>
>
> Marcus Cooper wrote:
>
> I'm hoping to get down to Lakeland on Fri or Sat at the end of the
> show and was reading the arrival NOTAM. It mentioned arrivals are not
> 'routinely' accepted until AFTER 1830 everyday. Any with previous
> experience found that to be the case? Seems awfully late in the day
> to start accepting airplanes considering how many show up.
>
> The airshow goes to 5:00 and they need to get the departures out
> ...... before the arrivals ...... is my guess.
>
> Secondly, are most folks planning on parking in homebuilt and
> camping, or parking at HBC (homebuilt camping) and living with their
> airplane? Seems like this may have been hashed out already so sorry
> if it's a repeat question.
>
> I can't help there. I live in a camper the whole week ..... and it's
> already onsite.
>
> By the way, there are quite a few changes to the site .... go to
> http://www.sun-n-fun.org/content/ and peruse the web site for a lot of
> info. I was at the volunteer meeting yesterday, and they've already
> got about 1/2 of the tents up. Last year they were still getting
> stuff up on opening day!!!
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
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Subject: | Rivetting Bottom Skins |
Bruce,
My wife and I did them on the table. The first one took forever but the
second one we did in about half a Saturday. We attribute the difference in
speed to getting a tungsten bucking bar. You can borrow mine if you want.
I will gladly come help you out with a few days advanced warning. I also
have a couple different sets that work great around the flap attach
brackets.
Some things to think about.
1) Have you planned your pitot location and tubing and wiring and if
you use the gretz where you are going to mount the circuit board?
2) Have you run conduit for wiring up lights?
3) Have you run tubing for the AOA ports (if your using AFS's AOA)?
4) Have you built your control rod tubing yet and fit it?
Ben Westfall
#40579
PDX
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bruce
breckenridge
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rivetting Bottom Skins
For those that have completed the rivetting of the bottom skins of the
wings, did you leave the wings in the cradle? or, did you do as the plans
say (page 20-5, step 2) and lay them on the table?
Bruce
40018 Wings
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Subject: | Re: HS Attachment Bars |
Yes, these parts first appear on page 10-3. These are the heavy tapered
bars that will attach the HS to the tailcone. This would be a bad place for
failure to occur.
I will give Vans a call to see what they say.
Kent
>>> "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net> 3/31/2008 10:04 AM >>>
Are you talking about the F 1011C on page 10-3?
If the hole is too big you might want to contact Vans for a replacement.
John
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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Subject: | Re: HS Attachment Bars |
Just talked to Vans, they said it's normal and the shank of the rivet will
expand to fill the hole.
Kent
>>> "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net> 3/31/2008 10:04 AM >>>
Are you talking about the F 1011C on page 10-3?
If the hole is too big you might want to contact Vans for a replacement.
John
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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Subject: | Cost effective parking brake solution (Matco) ($170) |
I just finished the install of my Matco parking brake.
Went really well. At least I will see when I hot up the brake system
1. I used an unused bracket (F1048F) from my QB kit - riveted
2. Matco brake from Matco (also from Vans) $115-120 with shipping
3. A few plumbing fittings modified from Spruce ($15-20)
4. A CT-A740 Cable from Vans ($25)
5. One #2 cushion clamp (in FWF/Electrical kit)
6. One Bowden cable end fitting (Vans $6.00)
Ran the cable to the F-1002-L frame and terminated it there.
I figure that down low at your ankles - it is out of the way (recessed)
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OSH '08 or Bust
Q/B Kit - Doors/windows/fiberglass stuff
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.....I think the message on the balloon pulled me through! So far, so good.
http://websites.expercraft.com/seanb/images/157146848447f06f37d3b0e.jpg
Whew!
Sean Blair
N967SB (reserved)
http://websites.expercraft.com/seanb/
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When I tested mine, the balloon deflated after an hour. Turns out the
balloon leaked not the tank. Gets your frustration level up though in the
mean time.
Gary
40274
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
dogsbark@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: RV10-List: couldn't hurt
.....I think the message on the balloon pulled me through! So far, so good.
http://websites.expercraft.com/seanb/images/157146848447f06f37d3b0e.jpg
Whew!
Sean Blair
N967SB (reserved)
http://websites.expercraft.com/seanb/
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Service Ceiling, what is it?
My definition, highest altitude you can maintain 100 foot rate of climb.
I tested it today, these results are not scientific, but it looks like
20,100 for my airplane fully loaded to max. Very close to the aft CG. No
wheel fairings.
Had a break in the weather this morning, so I ran to the airport and did my
service ceiling testing. Got a block of airspace over the Ogden VOR, the
Salt Lake Controllers are great. The airplane performed well, it was my
first flight at gross weight and I really did not see very much difference
in handling. The EFIS showed 100 knot winds at altitude and thus I was
almost standing still while I was headed west....I should of looked at my
ground speed I am sure it was close if not 0 at times.
It looks like Vans numbers are right on for me.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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N789AB WAS SEEN IN THE FLORIDA SKYS THIS MORNING FOR THE FIRST TIME,
AND IT LOOKED GOOD I AM TOLD. I HAD A PRETTY GOOD SHAKE DOWN FLIGHT,
WITH ONLY A FEW (HOPEFULLY) PROBLEMS. IT HANDLED WELL AND MOST THINGS
WORKED, BUT HAD SOME NOSE WHEEL SHIMMY ON LANDING AND IT ACTUALLY ATE
UP ONE OF THE BEARINGS. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE ON THE THE LIST FOR
THEIR INFO AND IDEAS ON HOW TO GET THESE MACHINES IN THE AIR SAFELY.
I HAVE A SAM JAMES COWL AMD PLENUM SO I'LL GET SOME PERF. NUMBERS OUT
WHEN I GET A FEW MORE HOURS. THANKS AGAIN AND KEEP BUILDING CAUSE
FLYING FEELS SOOOOO GOOD. BLUE SKYS BARRY
Barry Marz
18735 Baseleg AVE.
FT. Myers, Fl 33917
239-567-2271
blalmarz@embarqmail.com
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Thanks for reporting the performance. Gross Weight, Aft CG and required
climb margin.
Was that an Aerosport IO-540D4A5 or a Barrett 9:1 Cold Air with Forsling
tuned exhaust?
John Cox
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:03 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Service Ceiling
Service Ceiling, what is it?
My definition, highest altitude you can maintain 100 foot rate of climb.
I tested it today, these results are not scientific, but it looks like
20,100 for my airplane fully loaded to max. Very close to the aft CG.
No
wheel fairings.
Had a break in the weather this morning, so I ran to the airport and did
my
service ceiling testing. Got a block of airspace over the Ogden VOR,
the
Salt Lake Controllers are great. The airplane performed well, it was my
first flight at gross weight and I really did not see very much
difference
in handling. The EFIS showed 100 knot winds at altitude and thus I was
almost standing still while I was headed west....I should of looked at
my
ground speed I am sure it was close if not 0 at times.
It looks like Vans numbers are right on for me.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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Congrats, let us know what happened to cause the bearing problem.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Marz
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:20 PM
Subject: RV10-List: N789AB FLIES
N789AB WAS SEEN IN THE FLORIDA SKYS THIS MORNING FOR THE FIRST TIME,
AND IT LOOKED GOOD I AM TOLD. I HAD A PRETTY GOOD SHAKE DOWN FLIGHT,
WITH ONLY A FEW (HOPEFULLY) PROBLEMS. IT HANDLED WELL AND MOST THINGS
WORKED, BUT HAD SOME NOSE WHEEL SHIMMY ON LANDING AND IT ACTUALLY ATE
UP ONE OF THE BEARINGS. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE ON THE THE LIST FOR
THEIR INFO AND IDEAS ON HOW TO GET THESE MACHINES IN THE AIR SAFELY.
I HAVE A SAM JAMES COWL AMD PLENUM SO I'LL GET SOME PERF. NUMBERS OUT
WHEN I GET A FEW MORE HOURS. THANKS AGAIN AND KEEP BUILDING CAUSE
FLYING FEELS SOOOOO GOOD. BLUE SKYS BARRY
Barry Marz
18735 Baseleg AVE.
FT. Myers, Fl 33917
239-567-2271
blalmarz@embarqmail.com
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Subject: | Re: N789AB FLIES |
A huge congratulations to you guys for getting that thing done!
I can't wait to see/read/hear more!
Sorry to hear about the bearings...what part of them went out?
I can't hardly picture what would happen so quick except for
the rubber seal.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Barry Marz wrote:
>
> N789AB WAS SEEN IN THE FLORIDA SKYS THIS MORNING FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND
> IT LOOKED GOOD I AM TOLD. I HAD A PRETTY GOOD SHAKE DOWN FLIGHT, WITH
> ONLY A FEW (HOPEFULLY) PROBLEMS. IT HANDLED WELL AND MOST THINGS WORKED,
> BUT HAD SOME NOSE WHEEL SHIMMY ON LANDING AND IT ACTUALLY ATE UP ONE OF
> THE BEARINGS. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE ON THE THE LIST FOR THEIR INFO
> AND IDEAS ON HOW TO GET THESE MACHINES IN THE AIR SAFELY. I HAVE A SAM
> JAMES COWL AMD PLENUM SO I'LL GET SOME PERF. NUMBERS OUT WHEN I GET A
> FEW MORE HOURS. THANKS AGAIN AND KEEP BUILDING CAUSE FLYING FEELS SOOOOO
> GOOD. BLUE SKYS BARRY
>
> Barry Marz
> 18735 Baseleg AVE.
> FT. Myers, Fl 33917
> 239-567-2271
> blalmarz@embarqmail.com
>
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I have an overhauled C4D5, with the Vans provided exhaust. Dual mags. Just
a stock engine and the two blade Hartzell.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Service Ceiling
Thanks for reporting the performance. Gross Weight, Aft CG and required
climb margin.
Was that an Aerosport IO-540D4A5 or a Barrett 9:1 Cold Air with Forsling
tuned exhaust?
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:03 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Service Ceiling
Service Ceiling, what is it?
My definition, highest altitude you can maintain 100 foot rate of climb.
I tested it today, these results are not scientific, but it looks like
20,100 for my airplane fully loaded to max. Very close to the aft CG.
No
wheel fairings.
Had a break in the weather this morning, so I ran to the airport and did
my
service ceiling testing. Got a block of airspace over the Ogden VOR,
the
Salt Lake Controllers are great. The airplane performed well, it was my
first flight at gross weight and I really did not see very much
difference
in handling. The EFIS showed 100 knot winds at altitude and thus I was
almost standing still while I was headed west....I should of looked at
my
ground speed I am sure it was close if not 0 at times.
It looks like Vans numbers are right on for me.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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Subject: | Re: Service Ceiling |
Is that adjusted for density altitude, or just indicated altitude? How
far off std temp and pressure were the conditions?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
>
> I have an overhauled C4D5, with the Vans provided exhaust. Dual mags. Just
> a stock engine and the two blade Hartzell.
>
>
> Rene' Felker
> RV-10 N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:33 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Service Ceiling
>
>
> Thanks for reporting the performance. Gross Weight, Aft CG and required
> climb margin.
>
> Was that an Aerosport IO-540D4A5 or a Barrett 9:1 Cold Air with Forsling
> tuned exhaust?
>
> John Cox
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:03 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Service Ceiling
>
>
> Service Ceiling, what is it?
>
> My definition, highest altitude you can maintain 100 foot rate of climb.
>
> I tested it today, these results are not scientific, but it looks like
> 20,100 for my airplane fully loaded to max. Very close to the aft CG.
> No
> wheel fairings.
>
> Had a break in the weather this morning, so I ran to the airport and did
> my
> service ceiling testing. Got a block of airspace over the Ogden VOR,
> the
> Salt Lake Controllers are great. The airplane performed well, it was my
> first flight at gross weight and I really did not see very much
> difference
> in handling. The EFIS showed 100 knot winds at altitude and thus I was
> almost standing still while I was headed west....I should of looked at
> my
> ground speed I am sure it was close if not 0 at times.
>
> It looks like Vans numbers are right on for me.
>
>
> Rene' Felker
> RV-10 N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
>
>
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Thanks for the replies. I think I confused myself when I read the NOTAM
where it mentioned not routinely opening for arrivals until 1830 after the
field REOPENS each day. My hope was to arrive Sat morning before the show
and that's where I got confused thinking the only arrivals all day long
could only be after 1830.
Having said that, a Friday PM arrival may be possible which would be nice.
Thanks again,
Marcus
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-n-Fun
Marcus Cooper wrote:
I'm hoping to get down to Lakeland on Fri or Sat at the end of the show and
was reading the arrival NOTAM. It mentioned arrivals are not 'routinely'
accepted until AFTER 1830 everyday. Any with previous experience found that
to be the case? Seems awfully late in the day to start accepting airplanes
considering how many show up.
The airshow goes to 5:00 and they need to get the departures out ......
before the arrivals ...... is my guess.
Secondly, are most folks planning on parking in homebuilt and camping, or
parking at HBC (homebuilt camping) and living with their airplane? Seems
like this may have been hashed out already so sorry if it's a repeat
question.
I can't help there. I live in a camper the whole week ..... and it's
already onsite.
By the way, there are quite a few changes to the site .... go to
http://www.sun-n-fun.org/content/ and peruse the web site for a lot of info.
I was at the volunteer meeting yesterday, and they've already got about 1/2
of the tents up. Last year they were still getting stuff up on opening
day!!!
Linn
do not archive
Thanks,
Marcus
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Subject: | Re: N789AB FLIES |
Nice job Barry, Congratulations,
re nose wheel,
1. Did you have the steel or aluminum spacers?
2. Did you make any provisions to 'anchor' the spacers so that they
don't spin on the axle ?
Also VERY interested in hearing any information/data on the cowl/plenum
combo, EGT's, CHT's Oil temps etc.
THANKS
Deems Davis # 406
Waiting on the painter.................
http://deemsrv10.com/
Barry Marz wrote:
>
> N789AB WAS SEEN IN THE FLORIDA SKYS THIS MORNING FOR THE FIRST TIME,
> AND IT LOOKED GOOD I AM TOLD. I HAD A PRETTY GOOD SHAKE DOWN FLIGHT,
> WITH ONLY A FEW (HOPEFULLY) PROBLEMS. IT HANDLED WELL AND MOST THINGS
> WORKED, BUT HAD SOME NOSE WHEEL SHIMMY ON LANDING AND IT ACTUALLY ATE
> UP ONE OF THE BEARINGS. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE ON THE THE LIST FOR
> THEIR INFO AND IDEAS ON HOW TO GET THESE MACHINES IN THE AIR SAFELY. I
> HAVE A SAM JAMES COWL AMD PLENUM SO I'LL GET SOME PERF. NUMBERS OUT
> WHEN I GET A FEW MORE HOURS. THANKS AGAIN AND KEEP BUILDING CAUSE
> FLYING FEELS SOOOOO GOOD. BLUE SKYS BARRY
>
> Barry Marz
> 18735 Baseleg AVE.
> FT. Myers, Fl 33917
> 239-567-2271
> blalmarz@embarqmail.com
>
>
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Subject: | Primer overhead console and cabin interior |
Dear Listers,
I'm priming the cabin interior and overhead console in preparation from painting
w/ PPG topcoat. The PPG Primer Wash says "not recommended for use on fiberglass".
What to use?
Anyone know if 988 shake and rattle auto body primer would work okay? It seems
to stick pretty well.
Thanks in advance for replies.
Regards,
Jay
more than ready to attach cabin top to fuse...
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Subject: | Re: Primer overhead console and cabin interior |
I like the 2 part epoxy primers - way better than the rattle can stuff.
I am not so keen on the rattle can stuff as it probably has some oils in it which
may prevent good adhesion later.
I am using Nason (Dupont) products, but a friend of mine is using Sherwin Williams.
If I were starting today, I would go with the SW product as it seems more
uniform. The Epoxies are a pain to mix and spray, but they are tough as nails
when dry
--------
OSH '08 or Bust
Q/B Kit - Ready to exit cabin top/door purgatory
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Subject: | Re: N789AB FLIES |
Congratulations - you guys finishing up inspire the worker bees.
Wow - I think that three joined the fraternity this week.
Puff chested ( and properly earned) picture required
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I made no adjustments. Thought I might figure that out tonight, but went
flying instead.....the choices we make. Maybe later this week I will figure
it out. It was cold today, around 33 at takeoff....
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Service Ceiling
Is that adjusted for density altitude, or just indicated altitude? How
far off std temp and pressure were the conditions?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
>
> I have an overhauled C4D5, with the Vans provided exhaust. Dual mags.
Just
> a stock engine and the two blade Hartzell.
>
>
> Rene' Felker
> RV-10 N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:33 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Service Ceiling
>
>
> Thanks for reporting the performance. Gross Weight, Aft CG and required
> climb margin.
>
> Was that an Aerosport IO-540D4A5 or a Barrett 9:1 Cold Air with Forsling
> tuned exhaust?
>
> John Cox
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:03 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Service Ceiling
>
>
> Service Ceiling, what is it?
>
> My definition, highest altitude you can maintain 100 foot rate of climb.
>
> I tested it today, these results are not scientific, but it looks like
> 20,100 for my airplane fully loaded to max. Very close to the aft CG.
> No
> wheel fairings.
>
> Had a break in the weather this morning, so I ran to the airport and did
> my
> service ceiling testing. Got a block of airspace over the Ogden VOR,
> the
> Salt Lake Controllers are great. The airplane performed well, it was my
> first flight at gross weight and I really did not see very much
> difference
> in handling. The EFIS showed 100 knot winds at altitude and thus I was
> almost standing still while I was headed west....I should of looked at
> my
> ground speed I am sure it was close if not 0 at times.
>
> It looks like Vans numbers are right on for me.
>
>
> Rene' Felker
> RV-10 N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Primer overhead console and cabin interior |
You don't use the wash primer on the glass. My painting area of
my site tells about it....I think it's PPG K-36 primer that you
use, mixed as a primer/sealer....where you mix it with paint.
That's the stuff to use for the glass. Actually, you'll use
that on the aluminum after the wash, too....as wash primer isn't
a sealer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
jayb wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> I'm priming the cabin interior and overhead console in preparation
> from painting w/ PPG topcoat. The PPG Primer Wash says "not
> recommended for use on fiberglass". What to use?
>
> Anyone know if 988 shake and rattle auto body primer would work okay?
> It seems to stick pretty well.
>
> Thanks in advance for replies.
>
> Regards, Jay more than ready to attach cabin top to fuse...
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174026#174026
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Flexible Fuel Lines |
I used some good automotive fuel injection lines, but would like to replace
them someday with some stainless braided ones if someone has a source.
grumpy
do not archive
In a message dated 3/31/2008 2:14:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero writes:
I want to run flexible fuel lines from just outside the fuselage to make the
wing root connection. Has anyone else done similar? Length of line used?
Source?
Thanks,
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
_tdt@aurora.aero_ (mailto:tdt@aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
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Subject: | Primer overhead console and cabin interior |
BTW the number I supplied off list is Sherman Williams primer.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jayb
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:56 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Primer overhead console and cabin interior
Dear Listers,
I'm priming the cabin interior and overhead console in preparation from
painting w/ PPG topcoat. The PPG Primer Wash says "not recommended for use
on fiberglass". What to use?
Anyone know if 988 shake and rattle auto body primer would work okay? It
seems to stick pretty well.
Thanks in advance for replies.
Regards,
Jay
more than ready to attach cabin top to fuse...
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Primer overhead console and cabin interior |
I used UV smooth prime outta Aircraft Spruce. Here's the link;
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/smoothprime.php
Fred Williams
40515
jayb wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> I'm priming the cabin interior and overhead console in preparation from painting
w/ PPG topcoat. The PPG Primer Wash says "not recommended for use on fiberglass".
What to use?
>
> Anyone know if 988 shake and rattle auto body primer would work okay? It seems
to stick pretty well.
>
> Thanks in advance for replies.
>
> Regards,
> Jay
> more than ready to attach cabin top to fuse...
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174026#174026
>
>
>
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Subject: | Flexible Fuel Lines |
I made my own, tank to selector. Got the parts from Vans. Aeroquip.
Rene'
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
GenGrumpy@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flexible Fuel Lines
I used some good automotive fuel injection lines, but would like to
replace
them someday with some stainless braided ones if someone has a source.
grumpy
do not archive
In a message dated 3/31/2008 2:14:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero writes:
I want to run flexible fuel lines from just outside the fuselage to make
the
wing root connection. Has anyone else done similar? Length of line
used?
Source?
Thanks,
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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