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1. 06:02 AM - Re: paint shops AR (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 11:56 AM - Re: AFS Systems (are neato) (Chris Johnston)
3. 01:21 PM - N789AB Flies Wheel Bearing Problem (Barry Marz)
4. 02:28 PM - Re: N789AB Flies Wheel Bearing Problem (Vernon Smith)
5. 05:45 PM - Re: Wing Stand (johngoodman)
6. 05:53 PM - Re: Sun-n-Fun (johngoodman)
7. 06:14 PM - Re: Re: Sun-n-Fun (Jesse Saint)
8. 07:36 PM - Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: Re: Sun-n-Fun (Tom Ganster)
9. 07:54 PM - Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: Re: Sun-n-Fun (linn Walters)
10. 08:30 PM - Re: Re: Sun-n-Fun (Marcus Cooper)
11. 11:51 PM - What it costs to build an RV10 (AirMike)
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| Subject: | Re: paint shops AR |
GLO Custom in Roanoke, TX is doing RV's exclusively. www.glocustom.com
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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| Subject: | AFS Systems (are neato) |
I can't wait to see what you guys have in store. I had the opportunity
to show another builder some of the neato-ness of the AF3400, and he was
as impressed as I am. I'm also continually inpressed by the customer
service, and responsiveness of Rob and company. Top notch. If you're
checking out EFIS systems, I strongly suggest getting a demo of the unit
- you won't be disappointed. There's more in the unit than their
website shows!
cj
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of
RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Wed 4/2/2008 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFS Systems
We will have a new web site up on Tuesday morning.
-Rob
(http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv0003000000
0016)
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| Subject: | N789AB Flies Wheel Bearing Problem |
First Flight. I had the front wheel installed I/A/W the plans. I had
the small SS spacers and the axle was a little longer than the spacer
width. I believe I got some shimmy and the spacers allowed a little
side load on the bearing and it bent the cage on one set of bearings
and locked the wheel up.
Second Flight. I set the front wheel up I/A/W Tim's ideas and the big
AL spacers and cut the axle back 1/16", so the spacers captured the
bearings; and torqued the axle bolt to 190 in/lbs. I also ended up
with the pre-load on the forks at +/- 32 lbs. It handled good and had
no shimmy and I was able to taxi back to the hangar which is always a
plus.
I was going to change out the Al spacers for the SS spacers " down
the road " but I would suggest that you do it before you fly; more
important is cutting the axle back so there's pressure on the spacers
and bearings and not the axle.
FWIW On the second flight all CHT's were under 400'F and oil temp was
220'F with Sam James cowl and plenum. I will post full perf #'s and
temps when I have 5 hrs on the engine.
Barry Marz
18735 Baseleg AVE.
FT. Myers, Fl 33917
239-567-2271
blalmarz@embarqmail.com
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| Subject: | N789AB Flies Wheel Bearing Problem |
Barry,
Congratulations on your first flight! Also thank you for the heads up on t
he spacers and the oil temperatures.
Vern Smith (#324 finishing)
Don not archive
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> From: blalmarz@embarqmail.com
> Subject: RV10-List: N789AB Flies Wheel Bearing Problem
> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:18:02 -0400
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> First Flight. I had the front wheel installed I/A/W the plans. I had
> the small SS spacers and the axle was a little longer than the spacer
> width. I believe I got some shimmy and the spacers allowed a little
> side load on the bearing and it bent the cage on one set of bearings
> and locked the wheel up.
> Second Flight. I set the front wheel up I/A/W Tim's ideas and the big
> AL spacers and cut the axle back 1/16", so the spacers captured the
> bearings; and torqued the axle bolt to 190 in/lbs. I also ended up
> with the pre-load on the forks at +/- 32 lbs. It handled good and had
> no shimmy and I was able to taxi back to the hangar which is always a
> plus.
> I was going to change out the Al spacers for the SS spacers " down
> the road " but I would suggest that you do it before you fly; more
> important is cutting the axle back so there's pressure on the spacers
> and bearings and not the axle.
> FWIW On the second flight all CHT's were under 400'F and oil temp was
> 220'F with Sam James cowl and plenum. I will post full perf #'s and
> temps when I have 5 hrs on the engine.
> Barry Marz
> 18735 Baseleg AVE.
> FT. Myers, Fl 33917
> 239-567-2271
> blalmarz@embarqmail.com
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I built mine like Larry & Tim did. Works great. I have plenty of shop room and
if I was doing it again I would splurge a few more 2x4s and build a single one
for each wing. That way you can get to the top easier (assuming top on inside).
Riveting the flap gap fairings is the first time you'd like this; attaching
the flaps and ailerons is another. Just a suggestion - if you have the room.
John
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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I plan on arriving Tuesday afternoon and leaving Saturday morning. I'll be camping
in the tent area - driving down. Willing to fill requests if asked.
John
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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Anybody going to Sun-N-Fun, if you want to meet up somewhere and chat,
you have my cell phone number on all of my e-mails. Feel free to
call. We (my family and I) will be hanging out in the campground in
the evenings with an airpark group from Ft Meyers, one of which is an
RV-10 builder.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Apr 3, 2008, at 7:50 PM, johngoodman wrote:
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> I plan on arriving Tuesday afternoon and leaving Saturday morning.
> I'll be camping in the tent area - driving down. Willing to fill
> requests if asked.
>
> John
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> #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
> N711JG reserved
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174696#174696
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My wife and I will be there from Tues PM until Sun. We would love to get
together with other 10 builders.
Tom Ganster 40778 wings cell# 715-250-2675
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:11 PM
Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re: RV10-List: Re: Sun-n-Fun
Anybody going to Sun-N-Fun, if you want to meet up somewhere and chat,
you have my cell phone number on all of my e-mails. Feel free to
call. We (my family and I) will be hanging out in the campground in
the evenings with an airpark group from Ft Meyers, one of which is an
RV-10 builder.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Apr 3, 2008, at 7:50 PM, johngoodman wrote:
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> I plan on arriving Tuesday afternoon and leaving Saturday morning.
> I'll be camping in the tent area - driving down. Willing to fill
> requests if asked.
>
> John
>
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> #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
> N711JG reserved
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174696#174696
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Checked by AVG.
4:14 PM
Checked by AVG.
4:14 PM
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We should plan on a time/place to meet each other. My Grumman group
meets on the corner across from the cafe at noon and then go enjoy each
others company over food. Something similar might work for us -10
builders. How about outside Van's booth at noon??? Worth a try!!!
Linn
Tom Ganster wrote:
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>My wife and I will be there from Tues PM until Sun. We would love to get
>together with other 10 builders.
> Tom Ganster 40778 wings cell# 715-250-2675
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
>Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:11 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re: RV10-List: Re: Sun-n-Fun
>
>
>Anybody going to Sun-N-Fun, if you want to meet up somewhere and chat,
>you have my cell phone number on all of my e-mails. Feel free to
>call. We (my family and I) will be hanging out in the campground in
>the evenings with an airpark group from Ft Meyers, one of which is an
>RV-10 builder.
>
>do not archive
>
>Jesse Saint
>Saint Aviation, Inc.
>jesse@saintaviation.com
>Cell: 352-427-0285
>Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>On Apr 3, 2008, at 7:50 PM, johngoodman wrote:
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>>I plan on arriving Tuesday afternoon and leaving Saturday morning.
>>I'll be camping in the tent area - driving down. Willing to fill
>>requests if asked.
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>>John
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>>#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
>>N711JG reserved
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>>Read this topic online here:
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>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174696#174696
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>Checked by AVG.
>4:14 PM
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>Checked by AVG.
>4:14 PM
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If we get there in time on Friday we'll be living in an orange Harley
Davidson tent. Hopefully we'll stay until Sunday morning. Please swing by
and say hello, I'd like to meet some of you great RV-10 folks.
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:51 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Sun-n-Fun
I plan on arriving Tuesday afternoon and leaving Saturday morning. I'll be
camping in the tent area - driving down. Willing to fill requests if asked.
John
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174696#174696
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| Subject: | What it costs to build an RV10 |
I am getting to the light at the end of the money drain, and since I have been
keeping careful records of costs, I figured that I would share them with those
who may be considering the big move. It looks like my final cost will come in
at around $155,000. Vans seems to move up the price about 3% per year, but 5%
may be a better assumption in '08-09. I got nailed for an extra 5% on my Hartzell
prop by ordering 2 weeks too late.
Anyway - here s how it computes:
1. Engine - new IO540 Mattituck - OSH Special $39K
2. QB kit - Empenage - Fuse - Wings - Finish - FWF $55K
3. Panel 1x AFS3500 , TT Auto - Garmin MINIMUM IFR - GPS496 - $33K
4. Prop - Hartzell from vans $6500
5. Paint Reserves $8000
6. Interior Reserves $3500 Includes stuff like good vents $300 + paint
This all adds up to $145,000 - where is the extra $10,000 to make $155K
Well..........................Believe me these are the hardest of hard costs, It
goes for paint (smoothprime $50/Qt) , Tools $3000, Builders training and assist,
things like lights - parking brakes - mistakes - new tools - and the biggest
expense FREIGHT which increases daily. I picked up my plane by making 2 trips
to Vans. Paid $800 for a van/gas/lodging for the big QB pickup then about
$500 for a trip for the FWF & Finish kit in my big SUV. I am not counting my trip
to OSH where I got some great discounts.
The biggest potential savings items are:
1. Engine - but be careful there - you can get shafted big time. I know one guy
that bought one with the AD and wound up spending $45K for a used two cycle engine.
I know another guy who got a run-out one for $6K
2. Paint - Do it yourself - Save about $5K
3. Panel - I am on the low side at 33K - many guys have the shops do panels for
them that average about 70K and one ran $110K. I would not do a panel in this
plane without a tru-trak autopilot and an SL30
4. Buy early and do not wait if you have the money and have started. I lost $300
on ordering the prop late.
Good luck - it is a blast
--------
OSH '08 or Bust
Q/B Kit - Ready to exit cabin top/door purgatory
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