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1. 06:38 AM - Re: Re: sunscreens and covers (darnpilot@aol.com)
2. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: sunscreens and covers (Kelly McMullen)
3. 01:50 PM - Re: Wing Stand (Bob Leffler)
4. 02:15 PM - Re: Wing Stand (Bob Leffler)
5. 04:51 PM - Door seperation for those who don't frequent VAF site (Rick Sked)
6. 06:11 PM - Re: Door separation for those who don't frequent VAF site (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
7. 06:42 PM - Re: Door seperation for those who don't frequent VAF site (Andy Turner)
8. 06:45 PM - "Golden" rivet (Sheldon Olesen)
9. 06:46 PM - Re: Door separation for those who don't frequent VAF site (David McNeill)
10. 07:35 PM - Re: AFS Systems (Robert Wright)
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| Subject: | Re: sunscreens and covers |
I don't know about the air force, but it seems to me that the covers are the best
compromise.? Just leaving the glass exposed allows blowing dirt and grit to
scratch the surface.? Further, the sunlight now has no?impediment to its UV rays
attacking the glass (plus its actually attacking it going in, and then being
reflected back out).? The cover will also provide extra protection against
leaks into the cabin from imperfect door seals.? Make sure its a custom fit cover
that will be snug on the plane.? The interior plastic products are bulky to
store, never fit very well, and can scratch the interior side of the glass.
If the windows are kept clean and protected with some type of commercial cleaning/protecting
product and the cover is also kept clean, I suspect that the cover
compromise will give you the best overall protection.
I have no financial interest in any cover products.? My $.02.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
Sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:57 pm
Subject: RV10-List: Re: sunscreens and covers
Most people in the know and the USAF avoid the canvas sun covers, even the ones
with the softy interior side. The assumption is that even the softy side
accumulates grit which grinds against your windows.
The Kennon or Kennon style shades are the best as far as I know. They stay in
place and really protect from the heat. WalMart even sells the fold-over round
covers that do a good job on my car. The big deal is that you want to avoid
scratching your windows.
Check out Kennons web site http://kennoncovers.com/pricelist.htm
I do not want to necessarily promote them as they are quite expensive, but so
are your windows. I believe that the PLASTIC COATED Kennon type product is
available bulk but be sure that it has the interior plastic coating otherwise
the aluminum will scratch the windows. I am not sure that Kennon even makes it's
own raw material. They may only buy the product and laser cut it and put a
border on it. (The border is nice)
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OSH '08 or Bust
Q/B Kit - Ready to exit cabin top/door purgatory
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: sunscreens and covers |
Sunscreens are better for dusty environments. Blowing dust has little impact
on plexiglass until you get large particle sizes like blowing sand. You are
right about covers being more able to reduce rain leaking into cabin. You
won't find very many cockpit covers left on planes during the summer in
Arizona. But they are used a lot in the wetter winter. Sunscreens are the
protection of choice in the summer. Also, if you want to prevent prying
eyes, no one can lift the edge of a sunscreen behind locked doors.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 6:35 AM, <darnpilot@aol.com> wrote:
> I don't know about the air force, but it seems to me that the covers are
> the best compromise. Just leaving the glass exposed allows blowing dirt and
> grit to scratch the surface. Further, the sunlight now has no impediment to
> its UV rays attacking the glass (plus its actually attacking it going in,
> and then being reflected back out). The cover will also provide extra
> protection against leaks into the cabin from imperfect door seals. Make
> sure its a custom fit cover that will be snug on the plane. The interior
> plastic products are bulky to store, never fit very well, and can scratch
> the interior side of the glass.
>
> If the windows are kept clean and protected with some type of commercial
> cleaning/protecting product and the cover is also kept clean, I suspect that
> the cover compromise will give you the best overall protection.
>
> I have no financial interest in any cover products. My $.02.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:57 pm
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: sunscreens and covers
>
>
> Most people in the know and the USAF avoid the canvas sun covers, even the ones
> with the softy interior side. The assumption is that even the softy side
> accumulates grit which grinds against your windows.
>
> The Kennon or Kennon style shades are the best as far as I know. They stay in
> place and really protect from the heat. WalMart even sells the fold-over round
> covers that do a good job on my car. The big deal is that you want to avoid
> scratching your windows.
>
> Check out Kennons web site http://kennoncovers.com/pricelist.htm
> I do not want to necessarily promote them as they are quite expensive, but so
> are your windows. I believe that the PLASTIC COATED Kennon type product is
> available bulk but be sure that it has the interior plastic coating otherwise
> the aluminum will scratch the windows. I am not sure that Kennon even makes it's
> own raw material. They may only buy the product and laser cut it and put a
> border on it. (The border is nice)
>
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> OSH '08 or Bust
> Q/B Kit - Ready to exit cabin top/door purgatory
>
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> Read this topic online here:
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=175040#175040
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Thanks again!
I just finished the wing stand this afternoon.
http://mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=260
bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing Stand
Sorry my site is down. Send you a pdf and photo of list. Let me know if
you need more information.
Larry
Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> I had bookmarked Larry Rosen's site because he had detailed plans for
> building a wing stand. Unfortunately, his site is offline. I've found
> many pictures of wing stands on other sites, but no detailed plans. I
> was hoping to find dimensions and a bill of materials. Does anyone
> have a copy of Larry's plans or can point me to where I can find them
> (or something similar) online?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
> #40684
>
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Darn!
Apologies...... I meant to email this to Larry as oppose to sending it to
the list.
Bob
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| Subject: | Door seperation for those who don't frequent VAF site |
Check out this link
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=28678
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| Subject: | Door separation for those who don't frequent VAF site |
Yikes! That is some serious damage and it really starts to show the potential
of having the offending door hit the HS on the way out. I'm very glad I'm going
with Rivetheads blocks rather than the UHMW and hopefully Van will get the
picture that this is happening way too often for a cheesy warning light. Interesting
this happened back in Sept but (little) word is coming out now. Something
smells of lawyer involvement coming. Jesse, who setup the doors on that
one, you guys or the owner?
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Door seperation for those who don't frequent VAF site
Check out this link
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=28678
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| Subject: | Re: Door seperation for those who don't frequent VAF site |
Direct link to the page posted by the owner:
http://www.rv10-416ec.com/
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Andy Turner
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=175157#175157
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I set my "golden rivet" yesterday which is the last rivet structural
rivet to be put in the plane. By actual count there were 25,335
rivets that preceded this event. In my rivet census, only first time
rivets were counted. I've been working on sanding and finishing for
quite some time so I think that in 2 weeks it might be ready for
paint. Just for the record, my prediction skills are poor. The
original finish date was supposed to be March, 2006. Considering
that this project is late and over budget, I probably have a bright
future as a government contractor.
Do not archive
Sheldon Olesen
#40080 aka N475PV
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| Subject: | Door separation for those who don't frequent VAF site |
I spent about 30 minutes on the phone with Will Peacock; he is the owner of
the aircraft; his partner was flying. The aircraft was built by Saint
Aviation. The aircraft was repaired and is about to start flying again.
Someone has come up with another latching mechanism and he has indicated he
will send a picture of same. I will post when I get it. The apparent problem
again was the rear pin but no one is definite or has a certain tested
solution as yet. The windscreen fiberglass crack and the alternator cowl
strike are from the 4g (as measured by the Dynon) landing. Repairs included
entirely replacing the tailcone. It is my understanding that the doors are
the original as built by Saint Aviation
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door separation for those who don't frequent VAF
site
--> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Yikes! That is some serious damage and it really starts to show the
potential of having the offending door hit the HS on the way out. I'm very
glad I'm going with Rivetheads blocks rather than the UHMW and hopefully Van
will get the picture that this is happening way too often for a cheesy
warning light. Interesting this happened back in Sept but (little) word is
coming out now. Something smells of lawyer involvement coming. Jesse, who
setup the doors on that one, you guys or the owner?
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Door seperation for those who don't frequent VAF site
Check out this link
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=28678
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Awesome! Stein told me to wait on the GDL-69A for your unit. I'll be back in
commo with him to add your box to my panel as soon as he can get one. Is the
autopilot steering just a software upgrade?
Rob Wright
#392
Steinair AFS 3500/Garmin/TT AP-100 panel
----- Original Message ----
From: "RobHickman@aol.com" <RobHickman@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 12:30:58 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFS Systems
Also....
Autopilot
I just landed from testing our new autopilot GPS steering, it works really good.
We have some minor adjustments to do and then it should be ready for our beta
testers. You might even be able to fly home from Sun-n-Fun with it :)
It currently follows the bugs or NAV CDI (GPS, VOR, or ILS)
To fully use the interface you will need an Autopilot that supports GPS steering,
lateral and vertical. I have a Digitrak IIVSGV in my RV-4 and RV-10.
You will not be disappointed!!, it will be worth the wait.
Weather
We have XM weather!! It looks really good on the map screen.
Rob Hickman
Advanced Flight Systems
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