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1. 05:58 AM - Doors coming off (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 08:22 AM - Re: Doors coming off (John Cox)
3. 08:52 AM - Re: Doors coming off (Rene Felker)
4. 11:15 AM - Re: Doors coming off (James K Hovis)
5. 11:43 AM - Re: Doors coming off (Tim Olson)
6. 12:08 PM - Hearing the Bear, Watching the Bear .. wanting to dance rather than RUN (John Cox)
7. 01:22 PM - Fuel Filter clogging (gary)
8. 02:27 PM - Re: Doors coming off (Chris and Susie McGough)
9. 02:41 PM - Re: Doors coming off (Chris and Susie McGough)
10. 03:15 PM - Re: Doors coming off (LES KEARNEY)
11. 03:19 PM - Re: Doors coming off (Rene Felker)
12. 03:27 PM - engine operating limits (Rob Kermanj)
13. 03:41 PM - Re: Doors coming off (John Dunne)
14. 03:53 PM - Re: engine operating limits (Rene Felker)
15. 03:56 PM - Re: Doors coming off (Rene Felker)
16. 04:00 PM - Re: Doors coming off (David McNeill)
17. 05:24 PM - Re: Engine Special (tomhanaway)
18. 05:31 PM - Re: Doors coming off (tomhanaway)
19. 06:04 PM - Re: engine operating limits (Rob Kermanj)
20. 07:19 PM - Re: engine operating limits (Kelly McMullen)
21. 07:32 PM - Re: engine operating limits (Rene Felker)
22. 07:47 PM - Re: engine operating limits (Kelly McMullen)
23. 09:46 PM - Re: Re: Doors coming off (Bill DeRouchey)
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| Subject: | Doors coming off |
After reading all the posts on doors coming off I went to the hangar
yesterday to recheck mine to be sure they were doing what I thought they
were. I have installed the Rivet Head conversion and I read someone
saying that bullets don't go past the guide into and past the door
frame. On mine they are going through the guide and through the door
frame. Ok there.
I also heard several post say to reach back and feel that the pin has
gone through the door guide. If you have a full interior, like I do, you
obviously can't do that because the area is covered. I have the door
warning lights installed and I check religiously to be sure the light
has gone off after the door is closed. I also will not let passengers
close the door. I usually stay outside the plane until the passenger is
buckled in and then I close the door.
I can and would highly recommend the Rivet Head type of conversion. I
think Steven DiNieri also has this type of conversion as well as Rivet
Head.
Boy the damage done to the latest door off incident surely gives you the
incentive to double check that the doors are closed properly before
takeoff.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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| Subject: | Doors coming off |
Wayne, with your beautiful paint job, that extra degree of respect for
passenger and aircraft are a smart Checklist item.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Edgerton
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 5:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Doors coming off
After reading all the posts on doors coming off I went to the hangar
yesterday to recheck mine to be sure they were doing what I thought they
were. I have installed the Rivet Head conversion and I read someone
saying that bullets don't go past the guide into and past the door
frame. On mine they are going through the guide and through the door
frame. Ok there.
I also heard several post say to reach back and feel that the pin has
gone through the door guide. If you have a full interior, like I do, you
obviously can't do that because the area is covered. I have the door
warning lights installed and I check religiously to be sure the light
has gone off after the door is closed. I also will not let passengers
close the door. I usually stay outside the plane until the passenger is
buckled in and then I close the door.
I can and would highly recommend the Rivet Head type of conversion. I
think Steven DiNieri also has this type of conversion as well as Rivet
Head.
Boy the damage done to the latest door off incident surely gives you the
incentive to double check that the doors are closed properly before
takeoff.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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| Subject: | Doors coming off |
Question? How much does the door bow outward in flight. I am going flying
in about 30 minutes and will check mine, but just wondering if any of the
other flyers have tried to measure the flex. I have looked at it in flight
before and do not remember any noticeable increased gap in the door. The
reason I am interested is that I did cut my rods down to have the pins be
just long enough to go through the AL blocks. With the tight fit of the
doors, I do not think that a racking motion could pull the pin out of the
block, outward flex of the door could have some affect.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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| Subject: | Re: Doors coming off |
Being a lurker, I've read this thread with interest. Just to make a
general comment, for good structural "retention" of the door, I feel
the best set-up is for the door pins to pass completely through the
opening frame on the fuselage. Of course, I'm basing this on the
pictures I've seen so far. How does the warning light system "sense"
full locking with the "blueprint" set-up for the door? Seems to me it
would be a simple matter to add a couple micro-switches to the back
side of the door frames so they light up (or better turn off a light)
when the pins are fully engaged into the frames therefore indicating
proper lock.
On 4/11/08, Wayne Edgerton <wayne.e@grandecom.net> wrote:
> After reading all the posts on doors coming off I went to the hangar
> yesterday to recheck mine to be sure they were doing what I thought they
> were. I have installed the Rivet Head conversion and I read someone saying
> that bullets don't go past the guide into and past the door frame. On mine
> they are going through the guide and through the door frame. Ok there.
>
> I also heard several post say to reach back and feel that the pin has gone
> through the door guide. If you have a full interior, like I do, you
> obviously can't do that because the area is covered. I have the door warning
> lights installed and I check religiously to be sure the light has gone off
> after the door is closed. I also will not let passengers close the door. I
> usually stay outside the plane until the passenger is buckled in and then I
> close the door.
>
> I can and would highly recommend the Rivet Head type of conversion. I think
> Steven DiNieri also has this type of conversion as well as Rivet Head.
>
> Boy the damage done to the latest door off incident surely gives you the
> incentive to double check that the doors are closed properly before takeoff.
>
> Wayne Edgerton N602WT
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Doors coming off |
That's what the door sensors van's provides do...they're magnetic
sensors, and there are magnets in the tips of the pins.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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James K Hovis wrote:
>
> Being a lurker, I've read this thread with interest. Just to make a
> general comment, for good structural "retention" of the door, I feel
> the best set-up is for the door pins to pass completely through the
> opening frame on the fuselage. Of course, I'm basing this on the
> pictures I've seen so far. How does the warning light system "sense"
> full locking with the "blueprint" set-up for the door? Seems to me it
> would be a simple matter to add a couple micro-switches to the back
> side of the door frames so they light up (or better turn off a light)
> when the pins are fully engaged into the frames therefore indicating
> proper lock.
>
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| Subject: | Hearing the Bear, Watching the Bear .. wanting to dance rather |
than RUN
EAA video word has snuck out that the FAA has been walking all over the
grounds of SNF measuring their latest 51% Revised List against existing
kits in Florida. Not one single post by anyone on what that revised
list might look like. Other than VAN being cautiously optimistic, Can
any posters from SNF give us a teaser on what the new list might sound
like before it hits us along the head with all claws extended? I know,
I know the grounds are drying out and everyone has money to burn buying
new toys.
25% of all GA flying aircraft are said to now be some form of the more
than 29,000 (5,647 are VANS) Experimental built aircraft. The Genie is
out of the bottle. Other than smoke and mirrors, will anyone shed some
tangible light on this curiosity in a form we can get our arms around?
Once it is out, in the Federal Register to trigger an NPRM, the fuse on
the bomb will be lit. 280,000 attendees at SNF '08 and not a damn
whisper. Wow!
I understand Joe Bartels with his EVO Lancair prototype, VAN with the
RV-12 prototype and Mikael Via of Glastar sat at the picnic table. I
hear Hunger can make bad porridge taste better.
John Cox
#600
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| Subject: | Fuel Filter clogging |
Now that I am flying, I like everyone else flying, am concerned with a
clogged filter. It is a big job to get down in the tunnel and disassemble
the filter only to find that it is OK. Since filters clog progressively and
not all at once, I measured the fuel flow by taking the fuel line off of the
injector servo and connecting it to a hose that I drop the other end into
the gas tank. I then turn on the boost pump and read the fuel flow. Mine
started out at 42 gph and has not changed since I started flying. This
gives me peace of mind without all the disassembly. If the flow drops below
40 gph I can then go and clean it. Though I would pass along this time
saving tip.
Gary
40274
Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Doors coming off |
"I also heard several post say to reach back and feel that the pin has
gone through the door guide. " Guys this is rediculous we need a fix
so that whoever can jump in and fly the plane and believe that the doors
will not fly off. I mean would the public tolerate it if a car door fell
off? Why should we. We need a fix so that you can get in shut the door
"thats it" No checking pins or reaching behind the seat etc etc.
Ok so I am not convinced about this flexing yet as we cannot be sure the
doors that have come off had the rear pins into the fuse (shut
properly). So if this is the problem then Iflyrv10.com door guides will
fix the problem as the door pins are guided into place. If we are saying
there is flexing and the pins pop out then maybe tempory fix would be
what Andre has done in here in AUS.
About to do first flight in a few weeks and i do not want to have to
think about closing a bloody door or shouls I say a door coming off.
Keep thinking guys
reggards Chris 388
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| Subject: | Re: Doors coming off |
The after market door guides seem a good idea and I believed that one
of the advantages of these was that you were able to shorten the rods so
that if you accidently closed the door with the handle in the open
position the pins would not hit the outside of the fuse stuffing the
paint. This ofcourse means that with the door closed the pins would go
through the after market guide but not the fuse.
Just a thought
regards Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Doors coming off |
Chris
I have to say I agree with you. An unclosed door should not result in an major
emergency in an un-pressurised a/c. This problem, if not corrected will be an
accident waiting to happen. It is a bit like the Far Side cartoon the had a "Wings
Off" button on the arm-rest of an airline passengers seat. The questions
is not how to prevent the button being pushed but why it was there in the first
pace.
I know the risk can be mitigated by checking, with warning lights etc. But somewhere
along the way, the failure chain will catch up with someone.
Flying my Cherokee, part of the passenger brief is that they should un-latch the
door in the event of an emergency so the door does not jam upon landing. I am
reluctant to use the Auzzie fix as it may trap you in the a/c in the event of
a crash.
So rather than "fixes", what would be the "Gold Standard" solution?
Inquiring minds need to know ....
Les Kearney
#40643
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris and Susie McGough <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Doors coming off
> "I also heard several post say to reach back and feel that the
> pin has gone through the door guide. " Guys this is
> rediculous we need a fix so that whoever can jump in and fly the
> plane and believe that the doors will not fly off. I mean would
> the public tolerate it if a car door fell off? Why should we. We
> need a fix so that you can get in shut the door "thats it" No
> checking pins or reaching behind the seat etc etc.
>
> Ok so I am not convinced about this flexing yet as we cannot be
> sure the doors that have come off had the rear pins into the
> fuse (shut properly). So if this is the problem then
> Iflyrv10.com door guides will fix the problem as the door pins
> are guided into place. If we are saying there is flexing and the
> pins pop out then maybe tempory fix would be what Andre
> has done in here in AUS.
>
>
> About to do first flight in a few weeks and i do not want to
> have to think about closing a bloody door or shouls I say a door
> coming off.
>
> Keep thinking guys
>
> reggards Chris 388
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Doors coming off |
That is the way mine are set up. After all the discussion, I am considering
changing that and lengthening the rods and getting the pin to go through the
frame. Have not really decided yet. Maybe I will have one of the ME's here
give me an opinion about the strength of the AL block with the two bolts.
My general feeling is that I am ok since those two bolts have a lot of
strength in sheer.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie
McGough
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Doors coming off
The after market door guides seem a good idea and I believed that one of
the advantages of these was that you were able to shorten the rods so that
if you accidently closed the door with the handle in the open position the
pins would not hit the outside of the fuse stuffing the paint. This ofcourse
means that with the door closed the pins would go through the after market
guide but not the fuse.
Just a thought
regards Chris
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| Subject: | engine operating limits |
Hello Eveyone. Does anyone have the exact operating limits (green,
yelo, red range) for the IO540 that you can email me?
Thanks,
Rob.
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| Subject: | Re: Doors coming off |
Chris, I don't know how much can be gleaned from the latest? incident as
some of the posts allude to the door coming off on a subsequent flight
after the 4g crash/landing.
Maybe there wasn't a straight section left on this machine. In any case
who would go flying in an aircraft with that much prior damage unless
you had a special permit to return it to a maintenance workshop? Maybe
the door popped out during the crunching landing. Have a look at the
deformation on the glareshield. I'd be interested to see what the damage
was/might be where the brace attaches to the cabin cover. I don't think
well made RV-10's have a case of the door falling off, I think it's more
a case of checking to see if it's properly closed. The same thing you'd
do when you jumped in the family car.
Maybe the answer is a safety catch, sliding window bolt variety, at the
rear attached to the lower door aimed down to the inside of the lower
sill?
I'm interested in hearing Rene's report on the door in flight flexing
because I reckon this would be the most likely scenario to ripping a
door off especially if a significant gap opens up towards the airflow.
John 40315
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris and Susie McGough
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Doors coming off
"I also heard several post say to reach back and feel that the pin has
gone through the door guide. " Guys this is rediculous we need a fix
so that whoever can jump in and fly the plane and believe that the doors
will not fly off. I mean would the public tolerate it if a car door fell
off? Why should we. We need a fix so that you can get in shut the door
"thats it" No checking pins or reaching behind the seat etc etc.
Ok so I am not convinced about this flexing yet as we cannot be sure
the doors that have come off had the rear pins into the fuse (shut
properly). So if this is the problem then Iflyrv10.com door guides will
fix the problem as the door pins are guided into place. If we are saying
there is flexing and the pins pop out then maybe tempory fix would be
what Andre has done in here in AUS.
About to do first flight in a few weeks and i do not want to have to
think about closing a bloody door or shouls I say a door coming off.
Keep thinking guys
reggards Chris 388
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| Subject: | engine operating limits |
I have an operating manual, but would need to know what version you are
using. C4B5 for example. Not all IO540's limits are the same.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:24 PM
Subject: RV10-List: engine operating limits
Hello Eveyone. Does anyone have the exact operating limits (green,
yelo, red range) for the IO540 that you can email me?
Thanks,
Rob.
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| Subject: | Doors coming off |
I did not get to check the in flight flexing today...will have to fly some
other day to do it..darn. My wife is out playing this weekend.hockey..so it
might not be able tofly until some time next week.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Dunne
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Doors coming off
Chris, I don't know how much can be gleaned from the latest? incident as
some of the posts allude to the door coming off on a subsequent flight after
the 4g crash/landing.
Maybe there wasn't a straight section left on this machine. In any case who
would go flying in an aircraft with that much prior damage unless you had a
special permit to return it to a maintenance workshop? Maybe the door popped
out during the crunching landing. Have a look at the deformation on the
glareshield. I'd be interested to see what the damage was/might be where the
brace attaches to the cabin cover. I don't think well made RV-10's have a
case of the door falling off, I think it's more a case of checking to see if
it's properly closed. The same thing you'd do when you jumped in the family
car.
Maybe the answer is a safety catch, sliding window bolt variety, at the rear
attached to the lower door aimed down to the inside of the lower sill?
I'm interested in hearing Rene's report on the door in flight flexing
because I reckon this would be the most likely scenario to ripping a door
off especially if a significant gap opens up towards the airflow.
John 40315
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris and Susie <mailto:VHMUM@bigpond.com> McGough
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Doors coming off
"I also heard several post say to reach back and feel that the pin has gone
through the door guide. " Guys this is rediculous we need a fix so that
whoever can jump in and fly the plane and believe that the doors will not
fly off. I mean would the public tolerate it if a car door fell off? Why
should we. We need a fix so that you can get in shut the door "thats it" No
checking pins or reaching behind the seat etc etc.
Ok so I am not convinced about this flexing yet as we cannot be sure the
doors that have come off had the rear pins into the fuse (shut properly). So
if this is the problem then Iflyrv10.com door guides will fix the problem
as the door pins are guided into place. If we are saying there is flexing
and the pins pop out then maybe tempory fix would be what Andre has done in
here in AUS.
About to do first flight in a few weeks and i do not want to have to think
about closing a bloody door or shouls I say a door coming off.
Keep thinking guys
reggards Chris 388
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| Subject: | Doors coming off |
The Gold standard solution is found on the SR22; forward hinged door and
rear/top/bottom latch pin/pins. That solution would require some major re
engineering by Vans which is unlikely. In the short run, install a small
handle on the aft part of the door to aid in closing from the inside on the
ground. Then check your pins by feel or use the system. Do not shorten the
pins so that they do not penetrate the door jambs; this is a recipe for
disaster if the beveled tips hit anything where they will be
stressed/abraded etc. Eventually they may be just short enough to slip out,
given the flex of the door and the flex of the rear pushrod. IIRC it was
bent slightly to match the curvature of the door. For 29 years I closed the
passenger door on my Cardinal RG; not because it would depart the aircraft
but the passenger could damage the door. The handle had a shear pin in it so
that when the locking bar was pushed aft, it would shear if the bar was not
properly positioned and was striking the door frame. I always locked the
door to prevent my passenger from disabling the aircraft and creating a
maintenance job for me. IIRC I posted a passenger warning placard in the 10
stating that my aircraft does not conform to certification standards. In my
cases it meets or exceeds them but in the case of the doors I don't think it
does.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Doors coming off
Chris
I have to say I agree with you. An unclosed door should not result in an
major emergency in an un-pressurised a/c. This problem, if not corrected
will be an accident waiting to happen. It is a bit like the Far Side cartoon
the had a "Wings Off" button on the arm-rest of an airline passengers seat.
The questions is not how to prevent the button being pushed but why it was
there in the first pace.
I know the risk can be mitigated by checking, with warning lights etc. But
somewhere along the way, the failure chain will catch up with someone.
Flying my Cherokee, part of the passenger brief is that they should un-latch
the door in the event of an emergency so the door does not jam upon landing.
I am reluctant to use the Auzzie fix as it may trap you in the a/c in the
event of a crash.
So rather than "fixes", what would be the "Gold Standard" solution?
Inquiring minds need to know ....
Les Kearney
#40643
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris and Susie McGough <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Doors coming off
> "I also heard several post say to reach back and feel that the
> pin has gone through the door guide. " Guys this is
> rediculous we need a fix so that whoever can jump in and fly the
> plane and believe that the doors will not fly off. I mean would
> the public tolerate it if a car door fell off? Why should we. We
> need a fix so that you can get in shut the door "thats it" No
> checking pins or reaching behind the seat etc etc.
>
> Ok so I am not convinced about this flexing yet as we cannot be
> sure the doors that have come off had the rear pins into the
> fuse (shut properly). So if this is the problem then
> Iflyrv10.com door guides will fix the problem as the door pins
> are guided into place. If we are saying there is flexing and the
> pins pop out then maybe tempory fix would be what Andre
> has done in here in AUS.
>
>
> About to do first flight in a few weeks and i do not want to
> have to think about closing a bloody door or shouls I say a door
> coming off.
>
> Keep thinking guys
>
> reggards Chris 388
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Special |
Van's advises that the YIO-540-D4A5 is identical to the XIO-540-D4A5 engine. Both
are the experimental versions. Lycoming is getting more agressive with their
marketing and wanted a code letter for themselves.
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: Doors coming off |
I'd like to see Jesse S. hop in here when he gets a chance. I understand he's
a little busy right now
[Wink]
I looked at his door at Sun & Fun today. Looks like he added both a small interior
handle near the rear of the door and a secondary latch that seals the inside
front side of the door.
Tom H.
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| Subject: | Re: engine operating limits |
Thanks Rene, I have the D4A5. I did not realize that the limits were
not the same.
Rob.
Do not archive
On Apr 11, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
> I have an operating manual, but would need to know what version you
> are
> using. C4B5 for example. Not all IO540's limits are the same.
>
> Rene' Felker
> RV-10 N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:24 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: engine operating limits
>
>
> Hello Eveyone. Does anyone have the exact operating limits (green,
> yelo, red range) for the IO540 that you can email me?
>
> Thanks,
> Rob.
>
> do not archive.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: engine operating limits |
What limits are different besides max rpm?
Rob Kermanj wrote:
>
> Thanks Rene, I have the D4A5. I did not realize that the limits were
> not the same.
>
> Rob.
> Do not archive
>
> On Apr 11, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
>>
>> I have an operating manual, but would need to know what version you are
>> using. C4B5 for example. Not all IO540's limits are the same.
>>
>> Rene' Felker
>> RV-10 N423CF Flying
>> 801-721-6080
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
>> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:24 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: engine operating limits
>>
>>
>> Hello Eveyone. Does anyone have the exact operating limits (green,
>> yelo, red range) for the IO540 that you can email me?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rob.
>>
>> do not archive.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | engine operating limits |
I don't have the manual here, but one I could remember is the max cylinder
head temp.......
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: engine operating limits
What limits are different besides max rpm?
Rob Kermanj wrote:
>
> Thanks Rene, I have the D4A5. I did not realize that the limits were
> not the same.
>
> Rob.
> Do not archive
>
> On Apr 11, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
>>
>> I have an operating manual, but would need to know what version you are
>> using. C4B5 for example. Not all IO540's limits are the same.
>>
>> Rene' Felker
>> RV-10 N423CF Flying
>> 801-721-6080
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
>> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:24 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: engine operating limits
>>
>>
>> Hello Eveyone. Does anyone have the exact operating limits (green,
>> yelo, red range) for the IO540 that you can email me?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rob.
>>
>> do not archive.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: engine operating limits |
AFAIK, Lycoming's stated max climb CHT is 475 for all their engines(maybe
500 for a few), max cruise 425. If you let your engine get anywhere near
their limits your rings will be toast and other bad things are likely. Keep
CHT below 400 for all but the briefest periods, and take very positive
corrective action if it ever gets close to 425.
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
>
> I don't have the manual here, but one I could remember is the max cylinder
> head temp.......
>
> Rene' Felker
> RV-10 N423CF Flying
> 801-721-6080
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:13 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: engine operating limits
>
>
> What limits are different besides max rpm?
>
> Rob Kermanj wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Rene, I have the D4A5. I did not realize that the limits were
> > not the same.
> >
> > Rob.
> > Do not archive
> >
> > On Apr 11, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Rene Felker wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I have an operating manual, but would need to know what version you are
> >> using. C4B5 for example. Not all IO540's limits are the same.
> >>
> >> Rene' Felker
> >> RV-10 N423CF Flying
> >> 801-721-6080
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
> >> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:24 PM
> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: RV10-List: engine operating limits
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello Eveyone. Does anyone have the exact operating limits (green,
> >> yelo, red range) for the IO540 that you can email me?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rob.
> >>
> >> do not archive.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Doors coming off |
I looked over the pictures of the door departure and noticed something in the upper
hinges.
It looked like the area around the hinges had little resin between the two surfaces.
Also, the screw heads were flattened to bury them in resin so they would not
turn when tightened from below. I would guess this was to create a beautiful look
to the top of the door with no screw head showing. However, the shear force
is absorbed at the large diameter of the screw head and the mating nut surface.
Any grinding of the screw head removes area available for shear and its only
shear that is securing the top of the door to the hinges. The deeper the screw
head is set into the door the less holding strength is available from the
fiberglass. So burying the screw heads cause two problems, and if they are over
torqued cracking the fiberglass a third problem arises.
Are others using this technique to make their doors beautiful?
Look carefully at the rear door guide/protector/fuselage hole - it would appear
that the rod never reached far beyond the teflon guide, otherwise the protector
would be torn off.
Bill DeRouchey
N939SB, flying
tomhanaway <tomhanaway@comcast.net> wrote:
I'd like to see Jesse S. hop in here when he gets a chance. I understand he's a
little busy right now
[Wink]
I looked at his door at Sun & Fun today. Looks like he added both a small interior
handle near the rear of the door and a secondary latch that seals the inside
front side of the door.
Tom H.
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