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1. 07:04 AM - FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
2. 07:26 AM - Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 07:38 AM - Re: FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle (Jesse Saint)
4. 07:43 AM - Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning (Tim Olson)
5. 07:45 AM - Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
6. 07:46 AM - Re: FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle (Robin Marks)
7. 07:49 AM - Re: Torque wing bolts (Vernon Smith)
8. 07:50 AM - Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning (Jesse Saint)
9. 07:55 AM - Re: Torque wing bolts (Roger Standley)
10. 08:12 AM - Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning (Deems Davis)
11. 08:13 AM - wiring question (Jay Rowe)
12. 08:35 AM - Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
13. 09:05 AM - Re: wiring question (Rick Sked)
14. 09:08 AM - Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning (Rick Sked)
15. 09:12 AM - Re: FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle (gommone7@bellsouth.net)
16. 09:38 AM - Re: wiring question (orchidman)
17. 10:03 AM - Re: wiring question (Dave Saylor)
18. 10:03 AM - Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning (tomhanaway)
19. 10:14 AM - oil cooler (lbgjb10)
20. 10:50 AM - Re: oil cooler (Rick Sked)
21. 11:56 AM - Re: FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle (Paul Grimstad)
22. 01:58 PM - Wiring NL starter help (Chris and Susie McGough)
23. 02:00 PM - Re: Torque wing bolts (Chris and Susie McGough)
24. 02:26 PM - Re: Wiring NL starter help (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
25. 02:41 PM - Re: Wiring NL starter help (Chris and Susie McGough)
26. 03:17 PM - SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning diagrams (Chris and Susie McGough)
27. 04:20 PM - Wiring NL starter problem solved (Chris and Susie McGough)
28. 05:15 PM - Re: Insurance was AFS Systems .... (G900X panel cost / Stick Clearance) (Larry Rosen)
29. 06:42 PM - Re: Recommendations for front air vents (Thane States)
30. 07:22 PM - Re: 12 "cigarette" receptacle (johngoodman)
31. 09:34 PM - PIREP: Electric Rudder Trim - Do I really need it? (Scott Schmidt)
32. 10:26 PM - Re: Wiring NL starter help (Kelly McMullen)
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| Subject: | FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle |
Check this out. I didn't really like the bulky cigarette-type power
receptacles from Spruce or elsewhere (commonly with a flange on both
sides for screw mounting), so I went to the aviation department at West
Marine and found this one by Marinco. As you can see, it mounts with a
screw-on ring in the back, so you've only got the diameter of the
receptacle itself showing in front. There is an optional front flange
if you want to use it. It also has a nice-sealing cap, being a marine
product . . .
I think it was $17.99 at my local West Marine. You landlubbers will
have to go on their web site, if interested.
TDT
40025
Wings going on soon!
From: Dawson-Townsend [mailto:yooper@alum.mit.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:35 AM
Subject: P1000230.JPG
P1000230.JPG
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| Subject: | SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning |
Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then I believe
the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then the new diagram is
correct. As always you should review the instructions from the manufacturer in
addition to Van's. You know they will always fall back on what the manufacturer
says.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie McGough
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning
No I did not know this does anyone know if Vans updated there plans as mine
show to remove the jumper which will make it 24 volts!.
regards Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:47 AM
Subject: RV10-List: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning
>
> Probably everyone knows about this but me, but since I just fried my
> oil-soaked SkyTec starter on my GlaStar, I was perusing their web pages
> and
> found this:
>
> http://www.skytecair.com/Wiring_diag.htm
>
> Scroll down to the RV-10 wiring warning. If the shoe fits...
>
> John Jessen
> 40328 building
> GlaStar flying
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle |
Stein sells a really nice one for less than that, I think. It has a
metal back ring that screws on. Very nice to work with (the
receptacle and, as everybody already knows, Stein).
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Apr 18, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
> Check this out. I didn=92t really like the bulky cigarette-type power
> receptacles from Spruce or elsewhere (commonly with a flange on both
> sides for screw mounting), so I went to the aviation department at
> West Marine and found this one by Marinco. As you can see, it
> mounts with a screw-on ring in the back, so you=92ve only got the
> diameter of the receptacle itself showing in front. There is an
> optional front flange if you want to use it. It also has a nice-
> sealing cap, being a marine product . . .
>
> I think it was $17.99 at my local West Marine. You landlubbers will
> have to go on their web site, if interested.
>
> TDT
> 40025
> Wings going on soon!
>
>
> From: Dawson-Townsend [mailto:yooper@alum.mit.edu]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:35 AM
> To: Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
> Subject: P1000230.JPG
>
>
> P1000230.JPG
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| Subject: | Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning |
Mine wasn't from Van's, but it was recommended to me to go
with the HT.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then I
> believe the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then the
> new diagram is correct. As always you should review the instructions
> from the manufacturer in addition to Van's. You know they will
> always fall back on what the manufacturer says.
>
> Michael
>
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| Subject: | SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning |
You don't get a Starter in the Van's FWF Kit.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning
Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then I believe
the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then the new diagram is
correct. As always you should review the instructions from the manufacturer in
addition to Van's. You know they will always fall back on what the manufacturer
says.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie McGough
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning
No I did not know this does anyone know if Vans updated there plans as mine
show to remove the jumper which will make it 24 volts!.
regards Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:47 AM
Subject: RV10-List: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning
>
> Probably everyone knows about this but me, but since I just fried my
> oil-soaked SkyTec starter on my GlaStar, I was perusing their web pages
> and
> found this:
>
> http://www.skytecair.com/Wiring_diag.htm
>
> Scroll down to the RV-10 wiring warning. If the shoe fits...
>
> John Jessen
> 40328 building
> GlaStar flying
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle |
I also didn't care for any aviation 12V receptacle I could source and
the best looking one I could find was on one a 2008 Honda (CRV). Most
newer Honda's used the same receptacle with a rectangular spring loaded
cover plate and a nice 12V embossed on the face plate. I think I paid
$20.00 each delivered from an online automotive supply house.
Sorry no photos as I am traveling.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 6:59 AM
Subject: RV10-List: FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle
Check this out. I didn't really like the bulky cigarette-type power
receptacles from Spruce or elsewhere (commonly with a flange on both
sides for screw mounting), so I went to the aviation department at West
Marine and found this one by Marinco. As you can see, it mounts with a
screw-on ring in the back, so you've only got the diameter of the
receptacle itself showing in front. There is an optional front flange
if you want to use it. It also has a nice-sealing cap, being a marine
product . . .
I think it was $17.99 at my local West Marine. You landlubbers will
have to go on their web site, if interested.
TDT
40025
Wings going on soon!
From: Dawson-Townsend [mailto:yooper@alum.mit.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:35 AM
Subject: P1000230.JPG
P1000230.JPG
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| Subject: | Torque wing bolts |
Chris,
I'm not sure if you got an answer. According to page 5-11 of Van's general
instructions the 3/8" bolts require 160 to 190 inch pounds (13.3-15.8 foot
pounds). And the 9/16" bolts 800-1000 inch pounds (66.6-83.3 foot pounds).
NOTE: These values don't account for the preload of the nyloc or any lubric
ate on the threads.
Vern Smith (324 finishing)
do not archive
> From: VHMUM@bigpond.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com> Subject: RV10-List:
Torque wing bolts> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:55:46 +1000> > --> RV10-List
message posted by: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>> > Could s
omeone look up the torque for me for those nas bolts that hold the > wings
===============> > >
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| Subject: | Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning |
The starter isn't part of the FWF. It's part of the engine. I don't
know which one is included with which engine, but that depends on
where you buy your engine, I imagine. The alternator is included in
the FWF, and it is currently the Plane Power 60A.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Apr 18, 2008, at 10:20 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> >
>
> Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then
> I believe the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then
> the new diagram is correct. As always you should review the
> instructions from the manufacturer in addition to Van's. You know
> they will always fall back on what the manufacturer says.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie McGough
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:22 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning
>
> >
>
> No I did not know this does anyone know if Vans updated there plans
> as mine
> show to remove the jumper which will make it 24 volts!.
>
> regards Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:47 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning
>
>
>>
>> Probably everyone knows about this but me, but since I just fried my
>> oil-soaked SkyTec starter on my GlaStar, I was perusing their web
>> pages
>> and
>> found this:
>>
>> http://www.skytecair.com/Wiring_diag.htm
>>
>> Scroll down to the RV-10 wiring warning. If the shoe fits...
>>
>> John Jessen
>> 40328 building
>> GlaStar flying
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Torque wing bolts |
Hi Chris,=0A=0ADid you receive a response? I need those torques,
too.=0A=0ARoger=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0A Fro
m: Chris and Susie McGough<mailto:VHMUM@bigpond.com> =0A To: rv10-
list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> =0A Sent: Wedne
sday, April 16, 2008 9:55 PM=0A Subject: RV10-List: Torque wing bo
ie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com<mailto:VHMUM@bigpond.com>>=0A=0A
Could someone look up the torque for me for those nas bolts that hol
d the =0A wings on? Cant find my red book=0A=0A regards Ch
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| Subject: | Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning |
IF you have a prop/blade 'kick-back' the lightweight starter (LS) will
fail. (It's happened to many). The Hi Torque starter was designed to
eliminate that problem. Initially my engine had the LS but I upgraded it
to the Hi Torque upon learning about the kickback issue. when you order
your engine you should speficy the Hi Torque. (NL) starter.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Mine wasn't from Van's, but it was recommended to me to go
> with the HT.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>>
>> Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then I
>> believe the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then the
>> new diagram is correct. As always you should review the instructions
>> from the manufacturer in addition to Van's. You know they will
>> always fall back on what the manufacturer says.
>>
>> Michael
>
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Now deep into the wiring and panel placement but have several questions.
1) Trim wiring. Specifically what type of wire or bundle do I run from
the panel to the three trim motors. I have used Stein's "servo" wire to
feed the roll and pitch servos but that seems to have too many wires and
some of the wires are too big. Do I make my own bundle or is there
something available specifically for this chore? 2) The radio stack
cooling fan I have has three ports but I can only find two ports on the
radio stack. Do I use that other port to cool the Lightspeed console?
And is there a preferred position to place that fan? Thanks everyone
for the continued help. Jay Rowe 40301
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| Subject: | SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning |
I wasn't sure anymore what came with the FWF kit as I deleted so many things
from it and added a couple like the PP alternator which wasn't standard yet then.
One thing to note, if you end up with an LS there is a good chance Skytec will
swap it for you for the difference assuming it's still NIB. If not you can
probably sell it on eBay fairly easily considering how often the LS get mangled.
The NL is definitely preferred for our engines nowadays.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning
IF you have a prop/blade 'kick-back' the lightweight starter (LS) will
fail. (It's happened to many). The Hi Torque starter was designed to
eliminate that problem. Initially my engine had the LS but I upgraded it
to the Hi Torque upon learning about the kickback issue. when you order
your engine you should speficy the Hi Torque. (NL) starter.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Mine wasn't from Van's, but it was recommended to me to go
> with the HT.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>>
>> Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then I
>> believe the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then the
>> new diagram is correct. As always you should review the instructions
>> from the manufacturer in addition to Van's. You know they will
>> always fall back on what the manufacturer says.
>>
>> Michael
>
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| Subject: | Re: wiring question |
Jay,
Can't help you with the fans but this works well for the trim.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/wc2wire.php
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Rowe" <jfrjr@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:11:17 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: wiring question
Now deep into the wiring and panel placement but have several questions.=C2
-1) Trim wiring. Specifically what type of wire or bundle do I run from t
he panel to the three trim motors.=C2- I have used Stein's "servo" wire t
o feed the roll and pitch servos but that seems to have too many wires and
some of the wires are too big. Do I make my own bundle or is there somethin
g available specifically for this chore?=C2-2)=C2- The radio stack cool
ing fan I have has three ports but I can only find two ports on the radio s
tack.=C2- Do I use that other=C2-port to=C2-cool the=C2-Lightspeed
console?=C2- And is there a preferred position to place that fan?=C2-
=C2-Thanks everyone for the continued help.=C2- Jay Rowe 40301
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| Subject: | Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning |
If you should shear the shearpin from kickback on the HT model, Skytec has placed
a spare in RTV in the recess on top of the starter. A pretty easy fix away
from home.
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:32:22 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RE: RV10-List: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning
I wasn't sure anymore what came with the FWF kit as I deleted so many things
from it and added a couple like the PP alternator which wasn't standard yet then.
One thing to note, if you end up with an LS there is a good chance Skytec will
swap it for you for the difference assuming it's still NIB. If not you can
probably sell it on eBay fairly easily considering how often the LS get mangled.
The NL is definitely preferred for our engines nowadays.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning
IF you have a prop/blade 'kick-back' the lightweight starter (LS) will
fail. (It's happened to many). The Hi Torque starter was designed to
eliminate that problem. Initially my engine had the LS but I upgraded it
to the Hi Torque upon learning about the kickback issue. when you order
your engine you should speficy the Hi Torque. (NL) starter.
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Mine wasn't from Van's, but it was recommended to me to go
> with the HT.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>>
>> Which starter is Van selling with the FWF now? If it's the LS then I
>> believe the original diagram is correct. If it's now the NL then the
>> new diagram is correct. As always you should review the instructions
>> from the manufacturer in addition to Van's. You know they will
>> always fall back on what the manufacturer says.
>>
>> Michael
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle |
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| Subject: | Re: wiring question |
Jay,
I am also running the same wiring as Rick. I also got mine from AS. It is one
bundle to pull and not worry which wire is which.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Fuselage SB
(N410GB reserved)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177660#177660
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Jay,
Ray Allen sells wire that's perfect for their trim motors. It's very small
diameter and the colors match the servos so you don't have to convert
anything.
If I had an extra cooling port I would consider blowing cool air up into the
top of the panel area. It gets pretty hot up there. Also, put a few vent
holes in the top of the glare sheild to let the heat out. My Dynon
overtemped on a warm day last fall before I installed the cooling fan and
vent holes. We put the fan laying flat so it pulls (cooler) air from the
cockpit at about the level of the bottom of the panel. I also ran a couple
cold air tubes from the fresh air NACA ducts to displace some warm air.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay Rowe
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:11 AM
Subject: RV10-List: wiring question
Now deep into the wiring and panel placement but have several questions. 1)
Trim wiring. Specifically what type of wire or bundle do I run from the
panel to the three trim motors. I have used Stein's "servo" wire to feed
the roll and pitch servos but that seems to have too many wires and some of
the wires are too big. Do I make my own bundle or is there something
available specifically for this chore? 2) The radio stack cooling fan I
have has three ports but I can only find two ports on the radio stack. Do I
use that other port to cool the Lightspeed console? And is there a
preferred position to place that fan? Thanks everyone for the continued
help. Jay Rowe 40301
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| Subject: | Re: SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning |
Ok, I've got a dog in this fight since I just ordered an IO-540 from Van's as part
of their promotion.
The Van's Lycoming engine comes with the LS starter on the crated engine. Since
it's part of the OEM contract with Van's, it can't be changed. If you're ordering
from an after market builder, you can specify the NL.
I then spoke to the tech at Sky-Tech. The LS has a higher current draw than the
NL and may not turn over the engine IF you've done a shoddy wiring job. The
NL is recommended for that reason.
As to kickback, that can happen depending on settings of a magneto. In my case,
I plan to go with PMags for both. Skytech advised that they worked specifically
with the PMag system guys to ensure that a kickback won't happen.
Bottom line-Skytech changed the recommendation from LS to NL based on several engines
having slow turnover due to restrictive wiring or low battery power.
So I'll stay with the LS unless I do have a problem. If I was starting from scratch
on the engine, I'd get the NL.
Tom H.
Boynton Beach, FL[color=black][/color]
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I'm looking at putting in a Stewart Warner dual flow oil cooler--told model is
8432R. Using Mattituck 10-540. Anyone use it--any problems or problems fitting
it?? thanks larry b
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Larry and Gayle N104LG
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I have Van's stock FWF cooler....I know I'm going to be changing it out...I just know it but I'm gonna try it first. This is my choice for replacment and it may another manuf. that Alex is selling but it is a much better oil cooler in many ways. Heres the link: http://www.aviationtechproducts.com/html/engine__parts.html
Rick Sked
40185
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From: "lbgjb10" <lbgjb@gnt.net>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 10:11:47 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: oil cooler
I'm looking at putting in a Stewart Warner dual flow oil cooler--told model is
8432R. Using Mattituck 10-540. Anyone use it--any problems or problems fitting
it?? thanks larry b
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| Subject: | Re: FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle |
P1000230.JPGThey have a nice one at Aerocraft Parts:
http://www.aerocraftparts.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=901-0031&Category=51
ea08db-b876-4fd0-8c8b-dc2ba184c151
Paul Grimstad
RV10 40450
Portland, Or.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 6:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: FW: 12 "cigarette" receptacle
Check this out. I didn't really like the bulky cigarette-type power
receptacles from Spruce or elsewhere (commonly with a flange on both
sides for screw mounting), so I went to the aviation department at West
Marine and found this one by Marinco. As you can see, it mounts with a
screw-on ring in the back, so you've only got the diameter of the
receptacle itself showing in front. There is an optional front flange
if you want to use it. It also has a nice-sealing cap, being a marine
product . . .
I think it was $17.99 at my local West Marine. You landlubbers will
have to go on their web site, if interested.
TDT
40025
Wings going on soon!
From: Dawson-Townsend [mailto:yooper@alum.mit.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:35 AM
To: Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
Subject: P1000230.JPG
P1000230.JPG
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| Subject: | Wiring NL starter help |
Guys I am now stuck. I have the NL starter and also wired the plane as per
Vans wiring kit which I now know is wrong for this starter. I contacted Vans
and they are not interested in helping as not the starter they supply.
Can somone have a look at the skytec diagram and give me an idea what wires
to change. Ofcourse if you have not used Vans diagram you will not know the
difference.
Vans starter relay has 4 terminals and Skytec diagram has 3. Also Skytec has
1 wire going to the starter not 2.
http://www.skytecair.com/images/NL%2012V%20Installation%20Wiring_1100.jpg
Luckily John Jessen pointed this out
regards Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Torque wing bolts |
Thanks Vern You should have got he email to Roger regards Chris
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From: Roger Standley
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Torque wing bolts
Hi Chris,
Did you receive a response? I need those torques, too.
Roger
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From: Chris and Susie McGough
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Torque wing bolts
<VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Could someone look up the torque for me for those nas bolts that
hold the
wings on?
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| Subject: | Wiring NL starter help |
Chris, what chapter page is the Van's diagram?
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie McGough
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:54 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Wiring NL starter help
Guys I am now stuck. I have the NL starter and also wired the plane as per
Vans wiring kit which I now know is wrong for this starter. I contacted Vans
and they are not interested in helping as not the starter they supply.
Can somone have a look at the skytec diagram and give me an idea what wires
to change. Ofcourse if you have not used Vans diagram you will not know the
difference.
Vans starter relay has 4 terminals and Skytec diagram has 3. Also Skytec has
1 wire going to the starter not 2.
http://www.skytecair.com/images/NL%2012V%20Installation%20Wiring_1100.jpg
Luckily John Jessen pointed this out
regards Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring NL starter help |
OP37 -13
----- Original Message -----
From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:22 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wiring NL starter help
> <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
>
> Chris, what chapter page is the Van's diagram?
>
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie
> McGough
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:54 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Wiring NL starter help
>
> <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>
> Guys I am now stuck. I have the NL starter and also wired the plane as per
> Vans wiring kit which I now know is wrong for this starter. I contacted
> Vans
> and they are not interested in helping as not the starter they supply.
>
> Can somone have a look at the skytec diagram and give me an idea what
> wires
> to change. Ofcourse if you have not used Vans diagram you will not know
> the
> difference.
>
> Vans starter relay has 4 terminals and Skytec diagram has 3. Also Skytec
> has
> 1 wire going to the starter not 2.
> http://www.skytecair.com/images/NL%2012V%20Installation%20Wiring_1100.jpg
>
> Luckily John Jessen pointed this out
>
> regards Chris
>
>
>
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| Subject: | SkyTec Starter Wiring Warning diagrams |
Here is the diagrams. The first is Vans which is how I have wired which is
incorrect for the NL starter
http://www.skytecair.com/images/Van's%20Starter%20Wiring%20RV10%20Lg.jpg
This is the corect wiring.
http://www.skytecair.com/images/NL%2012V%20Installation%20Wiring_1100.jpg
Chris
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| Subject: | Wiring NL starter problem solved |
Hi Chris
You can use the 4 terminal solenoid - just use the 'S' terminal to your
switch, leave the 'I' unconnected assuming you have the standard black
starter solenoid. If you are still not sure then give me a call on 0412 624
723 and I'll walk you through it. I'm off test flying an Fadec equipped R7A
(the old ICY ;-) but will be available during the day.
Regards, Jake
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 6:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Wiring NL starter help
> <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>
> Guys I am now stuck. I have the NL starter and also wired the plane as per
> Vans wiring kit which I now know is wrong for this starter. I contacted
> Vans and they are not interested in helping as not the starter they
> supply.
>
> Can somone have a look at the skytec diagram and give me an idea what
> wires to change. Ofcourse if you have not used Vans diagram you will not
> know the difference.
>
> Vans starter relay has 4 terminals and Skytec diagram has 3. Also Skytec
> has 1 wire going to the starter not 2.
> http://www.skytecair.com/images/NL%2012V%20Installation%20Wiring_1100.jpg
>
> Luckily John Jessen pointed this out
>
> regards Chris
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance was AFS Systems .... (G900X panel cost / Stick |
Clearance)
Here is the post John was referencing. It is slightly different than the information
we got earlier where IFR GPS, and moving map and autopilot are required
for the 10% discount from AIG.
Just got my insurance bill for the renewal and SkySmith included the AIG
"Technology Advanced Aircraft" discount requirements.
The aircraft must have:
1.) IFR certified GPS, 2.) Moving map, 3.) two axis autopilot, plus any
two from column B, including:
TAWS, TCAS, Weather monitor (Stormscope, datalink, or radar), a fuel
totalizer, and RNP capability.
The pilot must have:
1.) Minimum Private/Instrument
2.) Current Instrument Proficiency Check, maintained annually
3.) Air Safety Foundation course completed, selected from 1.) single
pilot IFR, 2.) Datalink, 3.) Thunderstorms, 4.) IFR GPS, and 5.) Runway
Safety. These are available free and on-line and take about 30-40
minutes to complete.
Meet these requirements and get a 10% discount from AIG!!
John Cox wrote:
> ...
> On the Lancair site today there was a posting of new equipment
> requirements and pilot requirements that trigger a 10% savings for
> true Technically Advanced IFR Experimental equipped aircraft. Knowing
> those components, choosing wisely, building safely and maintaining
> currency of flight is going to have a positive impact and those are
> good things.
>
> John C
>
> *
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Recommendations for front air vents |
Here are a few pics of my eyeball vent install as promised. Hope these are
OK.
Thane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thane States" <thane2@comporium.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Recommendations for front air vents
>
> Sorry the wife has camera. I will post some pics tomorrow.
> Thane
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "linn Walters" <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Recommendations for front air vents
>
>
>>
>> Thane States wrote:
>>
>>
>> snip
>>
>>> Let me know if you have questions. I also have a pic of the end
>>> product, looks real clean, is easy to remove, and eliminates the ugly
>>> white flange, and requires no hardware or glue.
>>
>> So, where's the picture??? Holding out for cash offers??? :-)
>> Linn
>>
>>>
>>> Thane
>>> 803-396-8865
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 12 "cigarette" receptacle |
Funny that a cigarette lighter defines a standard. Sort of like the 4 feet 8.5
inches of a railroad track....
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#40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished
N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | PIREP: Electric Rudder Trim - Do I really need it? |
Over the past month I have been heavily debating whether I should add electric
rudder trim or not.
Everyone who has it absolutely loves it and I know it would be great but I wanted
to see if I could get away with just rudder trim tabs.
I like to add stuff like electric trim but wanted to try the KISS principle first.
For the first year I had one of the tabs from Avery on and it always needed a little
more right rudder.
Last year at Oshkosh I saw one RV-10 with two tabs (can't remember who) so I tried
it out.
I purchased another tab and temporarily mounted it so I now have two full tabs
on the lower portion of my rudder.
I have flown for 10 hours now with the two tabs and it seems to be working perfect.
At 165 knots true the ball is perfectly centered. At 160 it is barely right and
at 170 it is barely left.
I am so pleased with the results that I am not going to add the electric trim for
now.
I believe the electric trim is the luxury way to go but I can now fly with both
feet flat on the floor.
Just thought I'd share my findings with you. Happy Flying!
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring NL starter help |
I tend to think you have the wrong relay. The starter relay is normally
an intermittentduty model, with 3 terminals as shown in the Skytec
diagram. Master relays normally have 4 terminals. I note that the
pictures in the Spruce catalog are also reversed. :-(
Chris and Susie McGough wrote:
> <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>
> Guys I am now stuck. I have the NL starter and also wired the plane as
> per Vans wiring kit which I now know is wrong for this starter. I
> contacted Vans and they are not interested in helping as not the
> starter they supply.
>
> Can somone have a look at the skytec diagram and give me an idea what
> wires to change. Ofcourse if you have not used Vans diagram you will
> not know the difference.
>
> Vans starter relay has 4 terminals and Skytec diagram has 3. Also
> Skytec has 1 wire going to the starter not 2.
> http://www.skytecair.com/images/NL%2012V%20Installation%20Wiring_1100.jpg
>
> Luckily John Jessen pointed this out
>
> regards Chris
>
>
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