---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/25/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:18 AM - Re: IO-540 arrived two months early- best way to move it? (gary) 2. 05:36 AM - Re: IO-540 arrived two months early- best way to move it? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 3. 07:52 AM - Re: IO-540 arrived two months early- best way to move it? (AirMike) 4. 07:53 AM - Re: Perhaps a better fitting door when latched. (AirMike) 5. 09:00 AM - Rudder Stop Sheared Off (Doerr, Ray R [NTK]) 6. 09:33 AM - Re: Rudder Stop Sheared Off (Tim Olson) 7. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: Perhaps a better fitting door when latched. (John Gonzalez) 8. 01:07 PM - Thielert Troubles (Brian Douglas) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:20 AM PST US From: "gary" Subject: RE: RV10-List: IO-540 arrived two months early- best way to move it? Is the ice gone yet, I am ready to head back up there if winter is gone. Gary 40274 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:02 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: IO-540 arrived two months early- best way to move it? Up here, unless it's July or August, we just hose down the yard and let it freeze, and everything slides real well on the ice. :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Rick Sked wrote: > > LOL...not that heavy....four guys...and a small boy!!! Sled....you > can tell who is from snow country!! I had mine on a $20 furniture > dolly...works great. Keep it sealed up if in long term storage. > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:38 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: IO-540 arrived two months early- best way to move it? Usual April, 70 one week, 50 the next, and rains once or twice a week. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 7:12 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: IO-540 arrived two months early- best way to move it? Is the ice gone yet, I am ready to head back up there if winter is gone. Gary 40274 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:02 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: IO-540 arrived two months early- best way to move it? Up here, unless it's July or August, we just hose down the yard and let it freeze, and everything slides real well on the ice. :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Rick Sked wrote: > > LOL...not that heavy....four guys...and a small boy!!! Sled....you > can tell who is from snow country!! I had mine on a $20 furniture > dolly...works great. Keep it sealed up if in long term storage. > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:39 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: IO-540 arrived two months early- best way to move it? From: "AirMike" I moved mine onto a furniture dolly that I bought from HF. Moves around in my garage real well. If I were moving it outside, I would put it on 2 of the HF dollies ($15-19) in the crate. Leave it in the crate as it protects the unit from damage and rust or perforation of the visqueen covering. Use a jack or a couple of strong guys to lift onto the dollies. Boy is there any place to put it inside. I sure would not leave it outside. Heck - I would even buy a shed. Oh yea - watch those toes moving that heavy momma around. Could ruin your day -------- OSH '08 or Bust Q/B Kit - Ready to exit cabin top/door purgatory Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179133#179133 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:28 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Perhaps a better fitting door when latched. From: "AirMike" Why are you not using the Rivethead door pins? Way better -------- OSH '08 or Bust Q/B Kit - Ready to exit cabin top/door purgatory Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179136#179136 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:41 AM PST US From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" Subject: RV10-List: Rudder Stop Sheared Off During the process of getting my RV-10 ready for paint (Yes, I know it's been 2 years) I discovered that my Rudder was hitting the aft ski n of the Vertical Stab. After looking at it further, I notice one of my Ru dder Stops that are riveted to the top hinge half of the bottom hinge was m issing. The heads of the three AN470-4 rivets were still in the hinge half . A simply touch and they popped right out. Now I was thinking I was going to have to duplicate another sto p and rivet it on, but the hinge halves are quiet close together. Then it dawned on me that the Rudder stop may have fallen into the rudder bottom. Sure enough, that is where it was. The 3 rivets that hold this to the hing e were sheared off clean. The only thing I can think of is that when I was in Florida, my Tow Bar on the Rudder Pedals had gotten loose and allow the rudder to get slammed to the stop. No other damage found. So I thought about this for a while and thought this could like ly happen again if I don't change anything. So I decided to drill out the rivets to #28 and use #6 steel screws with stopnuts for both rudder stops. Hopefully the steel #6 screws will be much stronger in shear then the AN47 0-4 rivets. Thank You Ray Doerr N519RV (40250) Currently down for Paint ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:33:24 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder Stop Sheared Off Ray, This has happened to more than one person in the past. The last one was Scott Schmidt. He had some pretty high winds while he was tied down in Vegas that broke his rudder lock, and his rudder flapped and sheared the same rivets. I know I've heard of one or two others, as well. In fact, I think for one person it actually broke the rudder stop aluminum, but I'm not positive about that. So adding screws might not hurt, but you still may have the stop tabs break off. Either way, make sure you have a really good rudder gust lock: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/accessories/control_locks/index.html It may be that plastic won't do it for you, as depending on the design, high winds could snap the plastic tubes. I suppose if I wanted to toughen mine up, I could have glassed over the PVC, or done some work with strong aluminum tubing. Tim Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: > During the process of getting my RV-10 ready for paint (Yes, > I know its been 2 years) I discovered that my Rudder was hitting the > aft skin of the Vertical Stab. After looking at it further, I notice > one of my Rudder Stops that are riveted to the top hinge half of the > bottom hinge was missing. The heads of the three AN470-4 rivets were > still in the hinge half. A simply touch and they popped right out. > > Now I was thinking I was going to have to duplicate another > stop and rivet it on, but the hinge halves are quiet close together. > Then it dawned on me that the Rudder stop may have fallen into the > rudder bottom. Sure enough, that is where it was. The 3 rivets that > hold this to the hinge were sheared off clean. The only thing I can > think of is that when I was in Florida, my Tow Bar on the Rudder Pedals > had gotten loose and allow the rudder to get slammed to the stop. No > other damage found. > > So I thought about this for a while and thought this could > likely happen again if I dont change anything. So I decided to drill > out the rivets to #28 and use #6 steel screws with stopnuts for both > rudder stops. Hopefully the steel #6 screws will be much stronger in > shear then the AN470-4 rivets. > > > > Thank You > *Ray Doerr* > > *N519RV (40250) Currently down for Paint* > > * ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:16 AM PST US From: John Gonzalez Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Perhaps a better fitting door when latched. Same reason I am not using dual Cheltons, aftermarket, custom made cabin to p and fifteen thousand dollar, custom painted carbon prop and six bottom in finity grips. To each there own. After all, it is a consumer driven society .. Van's original design is good enough, but needs modification and the plans in this section are not written very well, nothing I can't seem to use my h ead to figure out. The up grades for me need to stop someplace and I have chosen where they wi ll be used and I am comfortable with what Van's has provided, it just needs modification and correct installation...no door pins should have ever only gone into the plastic blocks and not into the metal fuse members. No fiber glass door should have ever been made so flimsy that it flexs in flight and allows a pin to pull out. Lastly, the lack of any of the above items are not going to prevent my plan e from doing its' mission, the one real important thing that I need to reme mber is that this is still a small plane in a big sky with atmospheric cond ition that sometimes are not condussive to flight. On those days it stays o n the ground. A leason learned in boating thirty to forty miles offshore in a twenty foot boat off the coast of Mexico and of course my cross country soaring. Don't underestimate mother nature. Yes, flying is like an addiction, but unlike an addiction, we don't need to step into our aircrafts at the beginning of our flights with glazed over e yes like zombies drawn to the gruel. That felling need to be reserved for a fter the plane is back on the ground. It's called afterglow and indeed, it can last for days and can even be rememberred years later. This is a post to cover a couple I never weighed in on. Elitist on his soapbox and now off. JG. > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Perhaps a better fitting door when latched.> From : Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:50:57 -0700> To: rv10-lis bell.net>> > Why are you not using the Rivethead door pins? Way better> > - -------> OSH '08 or Bust> Q/B Kit - Ready to exit cabin top/door purgatory> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewto =============> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:07:44 PM PST US From: "Brian Douglas" Subject: RV10-List: Thielert Troubles I realize this isn't exactly RV-10 specific but I found it interesting nonetheless. I wonder if they'll even have a tent at OSH this year... http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2008/080424thielert.html -Brian #40497 Iowa City, IA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.