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1. 05:49 AM - Good article for Lycoming Owners (Phillips, Jack)
2. 09:07 AM - Gluing Foam Stiffeners in Elevator (Perry, Phil)
3. 09:09 AM - GA airports for Chicago (Dan Masys)
4. 09:39 AM - Re: airwolf oil separator (linn Walters)
5. 09:39 AM - Re: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) (Tim Olson)
6. 09:54 AM - Re: Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager (linn Walters)
7. 09:55 AM - Re: Builders insurance (linn Walters)
8. 10:00 AM - Re: Gluing Foam Stiffeners in Elevator (Gerry Filby)
9. 10:10 AM - Re: Window Adhesive (again) (dmaib@mac.com)
10. 10:22 AM - Re: GA airports for Chicago ()
11. 11:36 AM - Re: airwolf oil separator (Robin Marks)
12. 12:14 PM - Re: GA airports for Chicago (MauleDriver)
13. 12:37 PM - Re: GA airports for Chicago (dmaib@mac.com)
14. 01:12 PM - Re: GA airports for Chicago (Dj Merrill)
15. 01:13 PM - Re: Re: GA airports for Chicago (Tim Olson)
16. 02:02 PM - Re: Re: GA airports for Chicago (Scott Schmidt)
17. 02:14 PM - Re: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) (Darryl Husk)
18. 02:51 PM - Re: Re: GA airports for Chicago (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
19. 02:55 PM - Re: Re: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) ()
20. 03:21 PM - Re: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) (John Cox)
21. 03:38 PM - Re: Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager (John Cox)
22. 03:44 PM - Re: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) (Bob Leffler)
23. 03:55 PM - Wing Tips (McGANN, Ron)
24. 04:39 PM - Re: GA airports for Chicago (Dsyvert@aol.com)
25. 04:57 PM - Re: airwolf oil separator (partner14)
26. 08:05 PM - Re: Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager (Jesse Saint)
27. 08:09 PM - Will it replace 100LL? (Dave Leikam)
28. 08:31 PM - Re: Window Adhesive (again) (jim berry)
29. 08:52 PM - Re: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) (Rob Hunter)
30. 09:24 PM - Re: Wing Tips (Rick Sked)
31. 09:25 PM - Re: Good article for Lycoming Owners (Rick Sked)
32. 10:56 PM - Re: Wing Tips (Chris and Susie McGough)
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| Subject: | Good article for Lycoming Owners |
Here is an article that appeared in today's AvWeb, particularly
pertinent to us Lycoming owners:
http://www.avweb.com/news/savvyaviator/savvy_aviator_57_making_metal_197
700-1.html
Jack Phillips
#40610
Working on the Wings
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| Subject: | Gluing Foam Stiffeners in Elevator |
I'm at the point in the process of gluing the foam stiffeners inside the
elevator trailing edge + the trim tabs.
The plans call for proseal, but I'd like to use an alternative.
Did any of you use a different glue? Let me know.
Phil
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| Subject: | GA airports for Chicago |
Since the mayor gouged up Meigs Field, is there a preferred GA reliever airport
for folks flying into Chicago for meetings that occur in the loop area downtown?
Sort of RV-10 related, since I would take the -10 there if I can get over my resentment
of what they did to Meigs...
-Dan Masys
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| Subject: | Re: airwolf oil separator |
lbgjb10 wrote:
>
>anybody use the airwolf separator
>
I have not
>--or feel the need of one.
>
I have not
> any problems.
>
None for me ..... however, I dislike useing separators as a matter of
course. All a separator will do is cover up a problem ...... if you are
having a dirty belly because of blowby, it's time to think of at least a
top overhaul. For certified aircraft, the installations require the
routing of the 'captured' stuff back to the crankcase. Along with the
oil, you also get recovered acidic moisture. If you feel that you
absolutely have to add a separator, at least route the captured stuff to
a small can or bottle that you can empty periodically. I've seen folks
use a loop of clear plastic hose to hold the captured (and nasty)
stuff. At least you can see what it looks like!!!
Now, your messy belly could also be due to overfilling the oil sump. In
my experience, none of the engines filled to the 'top' mark will retain
that much oil. On a typical 8 quart sump .... 6 quarts is about the max
you want to fill it to keep the engine from 'dumping' the oil
overboard. If you want a real shocker .... look up the minimum oil
requirement that the manufacturer has in it's manuals!
Linn
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> larry
>
>--------
>Larry and Gayle N104LG
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>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181576#181576
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| Subject: | Re: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) |
I'm always interested to hear about lower-cost sites to fly
in to Chicago, too....I'd probably fly into the Wisconsin
or Indiana side if possible, just to stick it to the mayor
for the Meigs destruction.
Also, I'm planning to go to Detroit for the Red Bull Air
Races http://www.redbullairrace.com/ on 5/31 and 6/1
so if anyone has reasonable tie-down and cool kid-friendly
hotel advice, I'd love to hear that too.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Dan Masys wrote:
>
> Since the mayor gouged up Meigs Field, is there a preferred GA
> reliever airport for folks flying into Chicago for meetings that
> occur in the loop area downtown?
>
> Sort of RV-10 related, since I would take the -10 there if I can get
> over my resentment of what they did to Meigs...
>
> -Dan Masys
>
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| Subject: | Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager |
John Cox wrote:
>
snip
>I guess staying mum and watching the practice continue to unfold is too
>common and possibly the preference.
>
Definitely not the preference .... at least in my mind!!!
> In my industry - the airline
>industry it is most painfully obvious of the congressional efforts to
>compensate purchasers when tickets paid are not honored and then a firm
>goes south. If someone has constructive ideas has to how this phenomena
>can be mitigated or reduced, I will be all ears.
>
I pay with a credit card. At least I have some place to complain to.
By the time all the monies are distributed in a bankruptcy, there seldom
a penny left for the little guy.
> I look forward to Tony
>making right by the clients of his company. Stein Bruch is one such
>individual who deserves our business for his ethics and the effort to
>make right the poor business practices of someone else's lack of same.
>He is what others should emulate.
>
A rare occurance indeed. I got my 'education' early on, in the form of
a BD-5. Back then, I didn't have a credit card to use for my purchase.
>And Jesse thanks for the support. I feel at this point that "the
>Kicking the Bear" might just be VAN and his posting of a possible
>Primary Category RV-10 product direct from the factory to compete with
>Pedro, Miguel, Manuel and Marlo. I hope to ask that question at the
>annual factory open house on Thursday evening. And share same with this
>group. I take my lumps straight on.
>
>All in fun and to some... poor taste.
>
Just to some .... I've wanted to slip Pedro, Miguel, Manuel and Marlo
some unmarked bills to settle a dispute ..... but with my luck, they'd
all be undercover cops!!! Most all of us aren't smart enough to break
the law and not get caught!!!
Linn
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>
>John
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 6:03 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager
>
>
>In John's defense, I really didn't take that as a serious crucifixion
>of Tony. If he did cut and run and left customers and vendors both
>without their instruments or money, then he may deserve to look like
>the guy in the picture. If he does what many would not and says,
>"I'll do everything I can to get everybody their money or instruments
>back", then great for him and the picture was purely in fun. Either
>way, I enjoyed trying to see if that really was Tony or just a friend
>of John's that he beat up to take a picture for the list.
>
>By the way, I have talked to a vendor who has already changed their
>credit and billing/shipping/payment policy because they expect to have
>a shipped order yet unpaid when the dust settles, so not only are
>their customers who have paid for instruments that they haven't
>received, but their are vendors who have shipped instruments that they
>were not paid for.
>
>I just hope John doesn't send Guido and Vinny down to see me, but on
>the other hand, I have Pedro, Miguel, Manuel and Marlo watching my
>back, so we might send them back looking like "Tony".
>
>All in fun and certainly no offense meant to anybody else with the
>above names, including Tony from the late company known as Accuracy
>Avionics.
>
>do not archive
>
>Jesse Saint
>Saint Aviation, Inc.
>jesse@saintaviation.com
>Cell: 352-427-0285
>Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>On May 5, 2008, at 8:35 PM, tsts4 wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>John,
>>I think that is really in poor taste. I sent an e-mail to Tony on
>>Friday to see if in fact AA was out of business. He replied to me
>>today, unfortuenatly to confirm what has already been posted. So to
>>imply he has cut and run is the internet at it's worst.
>>
>>I know people have been screwed when this has happened before (ie
>>Direct-To) but there's no evidence of that yet. People may yet be
>>out their money but maybe you should wait until the facts are in
>>before you crucify Tony . Did you lose money? If so I could see
>>where you might be upset, but if not can we stay civil? AA's
>>closure is a blow for the whole community not just Tony, his
>>employees and customers.
>>
>>My 2 cents.
>>
>>--------
>>Todd Stovall
>>728TT (reserved)
>>RV-10 Empacone
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>>Read this topic online here:
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>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181359#181359
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| Subject: | Re: Builders insurance |
Fred Williams, M.D. wrote:
> <drfred@suddenlinkmail.com>
>
> With all this chat about builders insurance does anyone know where I
> can buy avionics shop insurance???
Pedro, Miguel, Manuel and Marlo ...... Sorry, I couldn't let that one go by!!!
:-)
Linn
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>
>
> Dr. Fred. :-)
>
>
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| Subject: | Gluing Foam Stiffeners in Elevator |
T-88 Structural Epoxy is what I used .
g
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry, Phil
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:04 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Gluing Foam Stiffeners in Elevator
I'm at the point in the process of gluing the foam stiffeners inside the
elevator trailing edge + the trim tabs.
The plans call for proseal, but I'd like to use an alternative.
Did any of you use a different glue? Let me know.
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Window Adhesive (again) |
Re: Hysol,
Jim, can you tell why you specifically selected 9360 vs. many of the other variations?
I am very interested in using this. We use it at work on the jets and
I know it is great stuff and easy to work with. Also would like any tips, procedures,
or processes you might have while using it for the window installations.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181948#181948
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| Subject: | GA airports for Chicago |
Dan:
In exchange for a ride in your -10, fly into KDPA; I'll pick you up, and
drop you at the train station, then get you back to the airport. Give me a
call with your intinerary @ 630-308-7476,
Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
RV-10 40486 Slow-build Eggenfellner E-6TI
Naperville, Illinois
Finishing kit, engine install
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Masys
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:07 AM
Subject: RV10-List: GA airports for Chicago
Since the mayor gouged up Meigs Field, is there a preferred GA reliever
airport for folks flying into Chicago for meetings that occur in the loop
area downtown?
Sort of RV-10 related, since I would take the -10 there if I can get over my
resentment of what they did to Meigs...
-Dan Masys
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| Subject: | airwolf oil separator |
Along that same line my 6A has an Air/Oil that does not return to the
crankcase but rather collects in a tube I drain after each flight. The
amount collected is generally a function of how much oil is in the case.
For my -10 I decided to try the Andair Air/Oil with collection cup. As I
am not flying yet I cannot report on its function. My only wish is that
the collection cup were a bit larger. Any overflow is routed to the
exhaust right next to my S/S hot dog & marshmallow skewers.
Photos:
http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/AndAir.htm
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: GA airports for Chicago |
I'm personally relieved to find out I'm not the only one that needs to
get over some resentment..... oh, maybe I'll just hold the grudge a bit
longer. What a loss.
Dan Masys wrote:
>
> Since the mayor gouged up Meigs Field, is there a preferred GA reliever airport
for folks flying into Chicago for meetings that occur in the loop area downtown?
>
> Sort of RV-10 related, since I would take the -10 there if I can get over my
resentment of what they did to Meigs...
>
> -Dan Masys
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GA airports for Chicago |
No real great close in options. MDW is OK, but very busy and probably expensive
fuel and fees. You can catch the train at MDW. DPA is a very nice airport and
the offer of a ride to the train makes it great. I am not sure, but PWK probably
has train access within a reasonable distance, as well.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181987#181987
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| Subject: | Re: GA airports for Chicago |
MauleDriver wrote:
>
> I'm personally relieved to find out I'm not the only one that needs to
> get over some resentment..... oh, maybe I'll just hold the grudge a
> bit longer. What a loss.
>
Please, feel free to take out your frustrations on my state's
wonderful gov't (Maine) and complain to them about their idiotic use
taxes on visiting aircraft...
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ
http://deej.net/sportsman/
"Many things that are unexplainable happen during the construction of an
airplane." --Dave Prizio, 30 Aug 2005
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| Subject: | Re: GA airports for Chicago |
It's going to be an interesting summer for fuel at these big
cities.....
MSP: $6.51/gal
ORD: $7.57/gal
MDW: $6.43/gal
DTW: $6.25/gal
DET: $7.50/gal
BWI: $7.61/gal
PWK: $6.64/gal
DPA: $5.20/gal
Yeah, prices still drop a lot as you go to the reliever
airports, but the national average for all regions is now
over $5.00 (see http://100LL.com)
Pretty soon it'll mean taking off from home, flying 25 miles,
landing at another small airport, and then taking a greyhound
400 miles to the destination. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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dmaib@mac.com wrote:
>
> No real great close in options. MDW is OK, but very busy and probably
> expensive fuel and fees. You can catch the train at MDW. DPA is a
> very nice airport and the offer of a ride to the train makes it
> great. I am not sure, but PWK probably has train access within a
> reasonable distance, as well.
>
> -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181987#181987
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> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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| Subject: | Re: GA airports for Chicago |
Have all seen the Airboss card at airnav.com?
http://www.airnav.com/airboss/
I've thought about using this since it only costs $39 but wonder if there will
really be a savings?
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 2:08:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GA airports for Chicago
It's going to be an interesting summer for fuel at these big
cities.....
MSP: $6.51/gal
ORD: $7.57/gal
MDW: $6.43/gal
DTW: $6.25/gal
DET: $7.50/gal
BWI: $7.61/gal
PWK: $6.64/gal
DPA: $5.20/gal
Yeah, prices still drop a lot as you go to the reliever
airports, but the national average for all regions is now
over $5.00 (see http://100LL.com)
Pretty soon it'll mean taking off from home, flying 25 miles,
landing at another small airport, and then taking a greyhound
400 miles to the destination. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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dmaib@mac.com wrote:
>
> No real great close in options. MDW is OK, but very busy and probably
> expensive fuel and fees. You can catch the train at MDW. DPA is a
> very nice airport and the offer of a ride to the train makes it
> great. I am not sure, but PWK probably has train access within a
> reasonable distance, as well.
>
> -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181987#181987
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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| Subject: | GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) |
Tim,
You might want to try one of the feeder airports around Detroit. KPTK,
Pontiac, has very nice facilities, but there is no easy route to downtown
Detroit from there.
1D2, Plymouth Mettetal, has easy access to I-96, which will get you downtown
fairly easily and quickly. That's my home airport. I know of at least one
10 that is being built there, and a number of other RV's. The area around
1D2 is pretty nice, lots of restaurants and shopping available.
KARB, Ann Arbor, is a nice airport with good facilities. There is easy
access to freeways, but it is a ways from downtown.
KOZW, Livingston County, is quite a drive, as well, but is a nice airport.
There is an airport on Grosse Isle, which is an island on the Detroit River,
but a long way from the races, I think.
KDET is in the city and probably the closest airport, but not in the nicest
of neighborhoods. I don't recommend it for a family.
North of the city is Troy, KVLL. Reasonable freeway access, but no fuel.
Just a few suggestions.
(I've been lurking for a couple years. I'm building a 9A, but follow the 10
list because it is the most active and a lot of good ideas come from it.)
Darryl Husk
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull)
I'm always interested to hear about lower-cost sites to fly
in to Chicago, too....I'd probably fly into the Wisconsin
or Indiana side if possible, just to stick it to the mayor
for the Meigs destruction.
Also, I'm planning to go to Detroit for the Red Bull Air
Races http://www.redbullairrace.com/ on 5/31 and 6/1
so if anyone has reasonable tie-down and cool kid-friendly
hotel advice, I'd love to hear that too.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Dan Masys wrote:
>
> Since the mayor gouged up Meigs Field, is there a preferred GA
> reliever airport for folks flying into Chicago for meetings that
> occur in the loop area downtown?
>
> Sort of RV-10 related, since I would take the -10 there if I can get
> over my resentment of what they did to Meigs...
>
> -Dan Masys
>
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| Subject: | Re: GA airports for Chicago |
If their average discount holds, and you can find locations that use the pr
ogram with already reasonable fuel prices, it will pay for itself in about
250 gallons.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GA airports for Chicago
Have all seen the Airboss card at airnav.com?
http://www.airnav.com/airboss/
I've thought about using this since it only costs $39 but wonder if there w
ill really be a savings?
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 2:08:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GA airports for Chicago
0.com>>
It's going to be an interesting summer for fuel at these big
cities.....
MSP: $6.51/gal
ORD: $7.57/gal
MDW: $6.43/gal
DTW: $6.25/gal
DET: $7.50/gal
BWI: $7.61/gal
PWK: $6.64/gal
DPA: $5.20/gal
Yeah, prices still drop a lot as you go to the reliever
airports, but the national average for all regions is now
over $5.00 (see http://100LL.com)
Pretty soon it'll mean taking off from home, flying 25 miles,
landing at another small airport, and then taking a greyhound
400 miles to the destination. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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dmaib@mac.com<mailto:dmaib@mac.com> wrote:
maib@mac.com<mailto:dmaib@mac.com>>
>
> No real great close in options. MDW is OK, but very busy and probably
> expensive fuel and fees. You can catch the train at MDW. DPA is a
> very nice airport and the offer of a ride to the train makes it
> great. I am not sure, but PWK probably has train access within a
> reasonable distance, as well.
>
> -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181987#181987
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) |
Lexington, KY now has a new FBO. Air-51.
If you show either your EAA or AOPA card, you will get a significant reduction
in fuel pricing. I don't know the exact price per gallon. I do know is is very
competitive with the area non-towered airports. Plus they have a Porche Boxer
as the loner car. You would have to go off airport for some food now wouldn't
you!
The interesting thing is you need to ask for AIR-51. Otherwise you will be sent
to the "Other" FBO.
The fuel here has been below the $5.00 mark, but who knows how long that will last.
Disclaimer: I have no connection with Air-51.
Jim Combs
40192 - Finishing - Slowly
===========================================================
From: "Darryl Husk" <dhusk@webxetra.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull)
Tim,
You might want to try one of the feeder airports around Detroit. KPTK,
Pontiac, has very nice facilities, but there is no easy route to downtown
Detroit from there.
1D2, Plymouth Mettetal, has easy access to I-96, which will get you downtown
fairly easily and quickly. That's my home airport. I know of at least one
10 that is being built there, and a number of other RV's. The area around
1D2 is pretty nice, lots of restaurants and shopping available.
KARB, Ann Arbor, is a nice airport with good facilities. There is easy
access to freeways, but it is a ways from downtown.
KOZW, Livingston County, is quite a drive, as well, but is a nice airport.
There is an airport on Grosse Isle, which is an island on the Detroit River,
but a long way from the races, I think.
KDET is in the city and probably the closest airport, but not in the nicest
of neighborhoods. I don't recommend it for a family.
North of the city is Troy, KVLL. Reasonable freeway access, but no fuel.
Just a few suggestions.
(I've been lurking for a couple years. I'm building a 9A, but follow the 10
list because it is the most active and a lot of good ideas come from it.)
Darryl Husk
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull)
I'm always interested to hear about lower-cost sites to fly
in to Chicago, too....I'd probably fly into the Wisconsin
or Indiana side if possible, just to stick it to the mayor
for the Meigs destruction.
Also, I'm planning to go to Detroit for the Red Bull Air
Races http://www.redbullairrace.com/ on 5/31 and 6/1
so if anyone has reasonable tie-down and cool kid-friendly
hotel advice, I'd love to hear that too.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Dan Masys wrote:
>
> Since the mayor gouged up Meigs Field, is there a preferred GA
> reliever airport for folks flying into Chicago for meetings that
> occur in the loop area downtown?
>
> Sort of RV-10 related, since I would take the -10 there if I can get
> over my resentment of what they did to Meigs...
>
> -Dan Masys
>
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Tim its not too late to fly into Chicago and I can get you on an AS flight direct
to PDX for the Regional RV-10 dinner on Saturday. What say you?
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull)
I'm always interested to hear about lower-cost sites to fly
in to Chicago, too....I'd probably fly into the Wisconsin
or Indiana side if possible, just to stick it to the mayor
for the Meigs destruction.
Also, I'm planning to go to Detroit for the Red Bull Air
Races http://www.redbullairrace.com/ on 5/31 and 6/1
so if anyone has reasonable tie-down and cool kid-friendly
hotel advice, I'd love to hear that too.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Dan Masys wrote:
>
> Since the mayor gouged up Meigs Field, is there a preferred GA
> reliever airport for folks flying into Chicago for meetings that
> occur in the loop area downtown?
>
> Sort of RV-10 related, since I would take the -10 there if I can get
> over my resentment of what they did to Meigs...
>
> -Dan Masys
>
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| Subject: | Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager |
Unfortunately for Tony's wife the pain is all too real. For that we can
all empathize.
The difficulty here is the growing perception that clients become
investors and Oregon based avionics business people have the right to
use the funds of a client like it was venture capital. My perspective
is the funds belong to the client until the product is delivered or
completed. Unless the client authorizes the conversion, the funds are
ethically and morally not the manufacturer to convert. If it is
converted, then shoot straight and say the money was converted.
As someone who filed bankruptcy I know this pattern too well. I did
not convert funds, personal friends were all made whole. The story was
a major setback to my family and the aviation community. As a Real
Estate broker and a former Securities Dealer, the conversion of those
funds is a felony and the road to the big house is clear. In the case
of small parts manufacturers and the individual clients who buy the
perception of a final product, there appears to be a growing trend to
tap into the funds "for just a while" till the company is on its feet.
How painful can that be? Most of the client's will take the conversion
and not pursue legal action if the experiment does not work.
What an unfortunate statement on the ethics of aviation business
entrepreneurs in many locales. What we need to do is speak openly and
help those who are ethical, moral and legitimate. For those who were
harmed by Direct2 and dealt with Stein, They know why Stein has set
the bar and others remain in the Guido and Vinnie category. Stein was
not a party to the conversion but he sure protected the client who was
never a venture speculator.
Let's all promote the businesses who do not tap into client funds as if
they were speculative investors and get back to the thrill of the 150th
RV-10 to fly this summer.
John Cox
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager
John Cox wrote:
<mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
snip
I guess staying mum and watching the practice continue to unfold is too
common and possibly the preference.
Definitely not the preference .... at least in my mind!!!
In my industry - the airline
industry it is most painfully obvious of the congressional efforts to
compensate purchasers when tickets paid are not honored and then a firm
goes south. If someone has constructive ideas has to how this phenomena
can be mitigated or reduced, I will be all ears.
I pay with a credit card. At least I have some place to complain to.
By the time all the monies are distributed in a bankruptcy, there seldom
a penny left for the little guy.
I look forward to Tony
making right by the clients of his company. Stein Bruch is one such
individual who deserves our business for his ethics and the effort to
make right the poor business practices of someone else's lack of same.
He is what others should emulate.
A rare occurance indeed. I got my 'education' early on, in the form of
a BD-5. Back then, I didn't have a credit card to use for my purchase.
And Jesse thanks for the support. I feel at this point that "the
Kicking the Bear" might just be VAN and his posting of a possible
Primary Category RV-10 product direct from the factory to compete with
Pedro, Miguel, Manuel and Marlo. I hope to ask that question at the
annual factory open house on Thursday evening. And share same with this
group. I take my lumps straight on.
All in fun and to some... poor taste.
Just to some .... I've wanted to slip Pedro, Miguel, Manuel and Marlo
some unmarked bills to settle a dispute ..... but with my luck, they'd
all be undercover cops!!! Most all of us aren't smart enough to break
the law and not get caught!!!
Linn
do not archive
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager
<mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
In John's defense, I really didn't take that as a serious crucifixion
of Tony. If he did cut and run and left customers and vendors both
without their instruments or money, then he may deserve to look like
the guy in the picture. If he does what many would not and says,
"I'll do everything I can to get everybody their money or instruments
back", then great for him and the picture was purely in fun. Either
way, I enjoyed trying to see if that really was Tony or just a friend
of John's that he beat up to take a picture for the list.
By the way, I have talked to a vendor who has already changed their
credit and billing/shipping/payment policy because they expect to have
a shipped order yet unpaid when the dust settles, so not only are
their customers who have paid for instruments that they haven't
received, but their are vendors who have shipped instruments that they
were not paid for.
I just hope John doesn't send Guido and Vinny down to see me, but on
the other hand, I have Pedro, Miguel, Manuel and Marlo watching my
back, so we might send them back looking like "Tony".
All in fun and certainly no offense meant to anybody else with the
above names, including Tony from the late company known as Accuracy
Avionics.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On May 5, 2008, at 8:35 PM, tsts4 wrote:
<mailto:tsts4@verizon.net>
John,
I think that is really in poor taste. I sent an e-mail to Tony
on
Friday to see if in fact AA was out of business. He replied to
me
today, unfortuenatly to confirm what has already been posted.
So to
imply he has cut and run is the internet at it's worst.
I know people have been screwed when this has happened before
(ie
Direct-To) but there's no evidence of that yet. People may yet
be
out their money but maybe you should wait until the facts are in
before you crucify Tony . Did you lose money? If so I could
see
where you might be upset, but if not can we stay civil? AA's
closure is a blow for the whole community not just Tony, his
employees and customers.
My 2 cents.
--------
Todd Stovall
728TT (reserved)
RV-10 Empacone
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| Subject: | GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) |
Tim,
I just spent the last couple weekends in the Comfort Inn about a mile from
1D2. Like Darryl mentioned, there are plenty of restaurants in the
vicinity. Nothing specific in the area that the kids would enjoy. I did
get a significantly better discount by calling the hotel than I was given
over the Internet. ($79 vs. $115) Other than the breakfast includes all
kinds of sugary foods that the kids would enjoy, it's a typical moderately
priced hotel.
Darryl did a pretty good summary. I used to be ATC at PTK many years ago,
but that's a long and not easy drive to the race area. I moved from the
Detroit area in the early 90's.
The kids may like this: http://pettingfarm.com/. It's not too far from
1D2. If you or the family is into baseball, there may be a Tigers game that
weekend.
You would still have a 30-40 minute drive to the races, but I would probably
stay out around 1D2 myself. The hotels downtown are probably pretty
expensive or in areas that you wouldn't want to take your family.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Husk
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull)
Tim,
You might want to try one of the feeder airports around Detroit. KPTK,
Pontiac, has very nice facilities, but there is no easy route to downtown
Detroit from there.
1D2, Plymouth Mettetal, has easy access to I-96, which will get you downtown
fairly easily and quickly. That's my home airport. I know of at least one
10 that is being built there, and a number of other RV's. The area around
1D2 is pretty nice, lots of restaurants and shopping available.
KARB, Ann Arbor, is a nice airport with good facilities. There is easy
access to freeways, but it is a ways from downtown.
KOZW, Livingston County, is quite a drive, as well, but is a nice airport.
There is an airport on Grosse Isle, which is an island on the Detroit River,
but a long way from the races, I think.
KDET is in the city and probably the closest airport, but not in the nicest
of neighborhoods. I don't recommend it for a family.
North of the city is Troy, KVLL. Reasonable freeway access, but no fuel.
Just a few suggestions.
(I've been lurking for a couple years. I'm building a 9A, but follow the 10
list because it is the most active and a lot of good ideas come from it.)
Darryl Husk
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull)
I'm always interested to hear about lower-cost sites to fly
in to Chicago, too....I'd probably fly into the Wisconsin
or Indiana side if possible, just to stick it to the mayor
for the Meigs destruction.
Also, I'm planning to go to Detroit for the Red Bull Air
Races http://www.redbullairrace.com/ on 5/31 and 6/1
so if anyone has reasonable tie-down and cool kid-friendly
hotel advice, I'd love to hear that too.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Dan Masys wrote:
>
> Since the mayor gouged up Meigs Field, is there a preferred GA
> reliever airport for folks flying into Chicago for meetings that
> occur in the loop area downtown?
>
> Sort of RV-10 related, since I would take the -10 there if I can get
> over my resentment of what they did to Meigs...
>
> -Dan Masys
>
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G'day all,
Recently completed the final installation of the wingtips with lights,
Archer navs, MB etc. Needed to trim the TE 3/8" - 1/2" to align with
the aileron - not too bad. I did notice though that the aft underside
of both both tips were extremely loose and wobbled like really bad oil
canning (even with the closeout rib and fully screwed to the wing).
Easily fixed by gluing in a foam support rib toward the trailing edge,
but I was wondering whether others have experienced this?
Cheers,
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: GA airports for Chicago |
Dan,
You may want to try Midway airport. I'm not sure about now-a-days but it
use to have a lot of GA traffic in the early 80's, but the airport has grown
since then. If they still allow GA it is very convenient where you could
catch the "L" downtown or a cab. Second, choice might be Palwaukee (class D)
airport ~ 7 miles north of O'Hare. You could call a cab to O'Hare and then catch
the "L" to downtown. Also, you could call a cab to take you to either the
Northbrook train station, then downtown or Wheeling or Prospect Heights station
to downtown.
_http://www.metrarail.com/System_map/index.html_
(http://www.metrarail.com/System_map/index.html)
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Sugar Land, TX
40625 (fuselage)
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| Subject: | Re: airwolf oil separator |
I was hesitant to reply because I have yet to launch the bird... I didn't like
the idea of dumping the breather contents onto the exhaust, so I found a nice
looking big block dry sump separator with baffling inside and a K&N filter on
top. Unit is priced under $100. I did modify the connection to handle a larger
AN fitting, but other than that, it connected up just fine.
Don McDonald #40636
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40636
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| Subject: | Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager |
By the way, I have been in touch with Tony and he says that the
fiberglass parts will still be made available. So you know, I have no
affiliation with Tony or AA.
You can contact him directly at the new address of accuracyavionics@yahoo.com
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On May 8, 2008, at 6:28 PM, John Cox wrote:
> Unfortunately for Tony's wife the pain is all too real. For that we
> can all empathize.
>
> The difficulty here is the growing perception that clients become
> investors and Oregon based avionics business people have the right
> to use the funds of a client like it was venture capital. My
> perspective is the funds belong to the client until the product is
> delivered or completed. Unless the client authorizes the
> conversion, the funds are ethically and morally not the manufacturer
> to convert. If it is converted, then shoot straight and say the
> money was converted.
>
> As someone who filed bankruptcy I know this pattern too well. I
> did not convert funds, personal friends were all made whole. The
> story was a major setback to my family and the aviation community.
> As a Real Estate broker and a former Securities Dealer, the
> conversion of those funds is a felony and the road to the big house
> is clear. In the case of small parts manufacturers and the
> individual clients who buy the perception of a final product, there
> appears to be a growing trend to tap into the funds "for just a
> while" till the company is on its feet. How painful can that be?
> Most of the client's will take the conversion and not pursue legal
> action if the experiment does not work.
>
> What an unfortunate statement on the ethics of aviation business
> entrepreneurs in many locales. What we need to do is speak openly
> and help those who are ethical, moral and legitimate. For those who
> were harmed by Direct2 and dealt with Stein, They know why Stein
> has set the bar and others remain in the Guido and Vinnie category.
> Stein was not a party to the conversion but he sure protected the
> client who was never a venture speculator.
>
> Let's all promote the businesses who do not tap into client funds as
> if they were speculative investors and get back to the thrill of the
> 150th RV-10 to fly this summer.
>
> John Cox
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of linn Walters
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:46 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager
>
> John Cox wrote:
>
> snip
>
> I guess staying mum and watching the practice continue to unfold is
> too
> common and possibly the preference.
> Definitely not the preference .... at least in my mind!!!
>
> In my industry - the airline
> industry it is most painfully obvious of the congressional efforts to
> compensate purchasers when tickets paid are not honored and then a
> firm
> goes south. If someone has constructive ideas has to how this
> phenomena
> can be mitigated or reduced, I will be all ears.
> I pay with a credit card. At least I have some place to complain
> to. By the time all the monies are distributed in a bankruptcy,
> there seldom a penny left for the little guy.
>
> I look forward to Tony
> making right by the clients of his company. Stein Bruch is one such
> individual who deserves our business for his ethics and the effort to
> make right the poor business practices of someone else's lack of same.
> He is what others should emulate.
> A rare occurance indeed. I got my 'education' early on, in the form
> of a BD-5. Back then, I didn't have a credit card to use for my
> purchase.
>
> And Jesse thanks for the support. I feel at this point that "the
> Kicking the Bear" might just be VAN and his posting of a possible
> Primary Category RV-10 product direct from the factory to compete with
> Pedro, Miguel, Manuel and Marlo. I hope to ask that question at the
> annual factory open house on Thursday evening. And share same with
> this
> group. I take my lumps straight on.
>
> All in fun and to some... poor taste.
> Just to some .... I've wanted to slip Pedro, Miguel, Manuel and
> Marlo some unmarked bills to settle a dispute ..... but with my
> luck, they'd all be undercover cops!!! Most all of us aren't smart
> enough to break the law and not get caught!!!
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 6:03 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Accuracy Avionics Production Manager
>
>
> In John's defense, I really didn't take that as a serious crucifixion
> of Tony. If he did cut and run and left customers and vendors both
> without their instruments or money, then he may deserve to look like
> the guy in the picture. If he does what many would not and says,
> "I'll do everything I can to get everybody their money or instruments
> back", then great for him and the picture was purely in fun. Either
> way, I enjoyed trying to see if that really was Tony or just a friend
> of John's that he beat up to take a picture for the list.
>
> By the way, I have talked to a vendor who has already changed their
> credit and billing/shipping/payment policy because they expect to have
> a shipped order yet unpaid when the dust settles, so not only are
> their customers who have paid for instruments that they haven't
> received, but their are vendors who have shipped instruments that they
> were not paid for.
>
> I just hope John doesn't send Guido and Vinny down to see me, but on
> the other hand, I have Pedro, Miguel, Manuel and Marlo watching my
> back, so we might send them back looking like "Tony".
>
> All in fun and certainly no offense meant to anybody else with the
> above names, including Tony from the late company known as Accuracy
> Avionics.
>
> do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On May 5, 2008, at 8:35 PM, tsts4 wrote:
>
>
>
> John,
> I think that is really in poor taste. I sent an e-mail to Tony on
> Friday to see if in fact AA was out of business. He replied to me
> today, unfortuenatly to confirm what has already been posted. So to
> imply he has cut and run is the internet at it's worst.
>
> I know people have been screwed when this has happened before (ie
> Direct-To) but there's no evidence of that yet. People may yet be
> out their money but maybe you should wait until the facts are in
> before you crucify Tony . Did you lose money? If so I could see
> where you might be upset, but if not can we stay civil? AA's
> closure is a blow for the whole community not just Tony, his
> employees and customers.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> --------
> Todd Stovall
> 728TT (reserved)
> RV-10 Empacone
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181359#181359
>
>
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| Subject: | Will it replace 100LL? |
I know this is not builder related but fuel sure is a hot topic these
days.
http://www.avweb.com:80/avwebflash/news/NewGAFuelPromises_BetterRange_Low
erCost_197810-1.html
Dave Leikam
#40496 N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Window Adhesive (again) |
David,
Two reasons for selecting Hysol 9360. First, it was recommended to me by 2 local
a&p's who have done the windows in 20-25 aircraft without a failure. Second,
I figured if it was strong enough to hold Lancair wings together it would probably
hold the windows in my -10. With a 5000 psi shear strength it is not likely
to be a point of failure.
One thing I forgot to mention previously is that Hysol part B is thicker than Proseal.
Warm it with a heat gun till it begins to soften before mixing it with
part A. Other than that, it is easy stuff to work with.
Jim Berry
40482
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red Bull) |
Bob
When were you at PTK as ATC. I grew up there and knew all of them pre
1981.
Rob Hunter
40432
Fuselage
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red
Bull)
Tim,
I just spent the last couple weekends in the Comfort Inn about a mile
from 1D2. Like Darryl mentioned, there are plenty of restaurants in the
vicinity. Nothing specific in the area that the kids would enjoy. I
did
get a significantly better discount by calling the hotel than I was
given over the Internet. ($79 vs. $115) Other than the breakfast
includes all kinds of sugary foods that the kids would enjoy, it's a
typical moderately priced hotel.
Darryl did a pretty good summary. I used to be ATC at PTK many years
ago, but that's a long and not easy drive to the race area. I moved
from the Detroit area in the early 90's.
The kids may like this: http://pettingfarm.com/. It's not too far
from
1D2. If you or the family is into baseball, there may be a Tigers game
that weekend.
You would still have a 30-40 minute drive to the races, but I would
probably
stay out around 1D2 myself. The hotels downtown are probably pretty
expensive or in areas that you wouldn't want to take your family.
Bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Husk
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red
Bull)
Tim,
You might want to try one of the feeder airports around Detroit. KPTK,
Pontiac, has very nice facilities, but there is no easy route to
downtown Detroit from there.
1D2, Plymouth Mettetal, has easy access to I-96, which will get you
downtown fairly easily and quickly. That's my home airport. I know of
at least one 10 that is being built there, and a number of other RV's.
The area around 1D2 is pretty nice, lots of restaurants and shopping
available.
KARB, Ann Arbor, is a nice airport with good facilities. There is easy
access to freeways, but it is a ways from downtown.
KOZW, Livingston County, is quite a drive, as well, but is a nice
airport.
There is an airport on Grosse Isle, which is an island on the Detroit
River, but a long way from the races, I think.
KDET is in the city and probably the closest airport, but not in the
nicest of neighborhoods. I don't recommend it for a family.
North of the city is Troy, KVLL. Reasonable freeway access, but no
fuel.
Just a few suggestions.
(I've been lurking for a couple years. I'm building a 9A, but follow
the 10 list because it is the most active and a lot of good ideas come
from it.)
Darryl Husk
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GA airports for Chicago - Add on Detroit (Red
Bull)
I'm always interested to hear about lower-cost sites to fly
in to Chicago, too....I'd probably fly into the Wisconsin
or Indiana side if possible, just to stick it to the mayor
for the Meigs destruction.
Also, I'm planning to go to Detroit for the Red Bull Air
Races http://www.redbullairrace.com/ on 5/31 and 6/1
so if anyone has reasonable tie-down and cool kid-friendly hotel advice,
I'd love to hear that too.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Dan Masys wrote:
>
> Since the mayor gouged up Meigs Field, is there a preferred GA
> reliever airport for folks flying into Chicago for meetings that occur
> in the loop area downtown?
>
> Sort of RV-10 related, since I would take the -10 there if I can get
> over my resentment of what they did to Meigs...
>
> -Dan Masys
>
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Ron,
Mine seemed pretty sturdy but I went the hinge route instead of screws. I a
lso fabricated an outer flush rib that fits inside the tip made=C2-out of
.063 sheet=C2-that is held against the hinges and inner rib=C2-in the
opening with two screws and nutplates on the inner rib. This conceals my hi
nge pins and makes the closeout of the wingtips neat and clean, no hole or
recess and allows access to easily pull the hinge pins to remove the tip. Y
eah I know...someone will want photos...I'll need to go through my vast fil
es and reduce the image so I can post it...
PS-I only had to sand my tips TE...they were one of the first batches sent
out after Vans made the fix...or I just got lucky.
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron McGANN" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 3:50:20 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Wing Tips
G'day all,
Recently completed the final installation of the wingtips with lights, Arch
er navs, MB etc.=C2- Needed to trim the TE 3/8" - 1/2" to align with the
aileron - not too bad.=C2- I did notice though that the aft underside of
both both tips were extremely loose and wobbled like really bad oil canning
(even with the closeout rib and fully screwed to the wing).=C2- Easily f
ixed by gluing in a foam support rib toward the trailing edge, but I was wo
ndering whether others have experienced this?
Cheers,
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Good article for Lycoming Owners |
Thanks for posting that Jack!!
Makes me glad I'll be changing my own oil and some insight as to what to lo
ok for.
Rick Sked
40185
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Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 5:42:52 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
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Here is an article that appeared in today =99 s AvWeb, particularly p
ertinent to us Lycoming owners:=C2- http://www.avweb.com/news/savvyaviato
r/savvy_aviator_57_making_metal_197700-1.html
Jack Phillips
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Ron I too had to cut heaps off but seem sturdy once fitted.
Chis
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Sked
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing Tips
Ron,
Mine seemed pretty sturdy but I went the hinge route instead of
screws. I also fabricated an outer flush rib that fits inside the tip
made out of .063 sheet that is held against the hinges and inner rib in
the opening with two screws and nutplates on the inner rib. This
conceals my hinge pins and makes the closeout of the wingtips neat and
clean, no hole or recess and allows access to easily pull the hinge pins
to remove the tip. Yeah I know...someone will want photos...I'll need to
go through my vast files and reduce the image so I can post it...
PS-I only had to sand my tips TE...they were one of the first batches
sent out after Vans made the fix...or I just got lucky.
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron McGANN" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 3:50:20 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Wing Tips
G'day all,
Recently completed the final installation of the wingtips with lights,
Archer navs, MB etc. Needed to trim the TE 3/8" - 1/2" to align with
the aileron - not too bad. I did notice though that the aft underside
of both both tips were extremely loose and wobbled like really bad oil
canning (even with the closeout rib and fully screwed to the wing).
Easily fixed by gluing in a foam support rib toward the trailing edge,
but I was wondering whether others have experienced this?
Cheers,
Ron
-187 finishing (waiting on window glue!)
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