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1. 03:34 PM - Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
2. 03:50 PM - Re: Missing index holes in doors (McGANN, Ron)
3. 03:54 PM - Re: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? (Tim Olson)
4. 04:27 PM - Re: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? (MauleDriver)
5. 04:42 PM - Re: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? (John Cox)
6. 05:04 PM - Re: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? (John Testement)
7. 07:47 PM - Re: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
8. 09:04 PM - Re: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? (Bill Schlatterer)
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| Subject: | Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? |
I finally got my RV-10 painted and all back together this weekend. Here is a link
to the pictures on PicasaWeb
http://picasaweb.google.com/rdoerr10/PaintingN519RVMay2008
Thanks
Ray Doerr
N519RV (40250) 373 hrs on the Hobbs.
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| Subject: | Missing index holes in doors |
'. . . . RV10 composite is superior in production finish to Lancair . .
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Good one John - I needed a little humor first thing on a monday morning
after spending a weekend trying to get my #$%&^$*^%* wing tip trailing
edges to align with the flaps/ailerons.
cheers,
Ron
187 initial flight control rigging
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 7:57 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Missing index holes in doors
You would be mistaken if you believe it has anything to do with
lowest bidder. Van tends to award a lot of production items to friends,
acquaintances and established business relationships. Can anyone
identify the parts used that have a connection to Tom Green, President?
Van may be frugal but going for the lowest bid implies a willingness to
cut a corner and that is not necessarily connected.
Now having more than a single supplier might be a great QC idea.
QC is an issue that deserves discussion.
Contrary to some feeling the RV-10 composite is superior in
production finish to Lancair, I say Bunk. The chemistry and quality of
fitment is generations ahead of Vans. JMHO. I understand that Vans
does sub out both the weldment and the metal treatment to single source.
His loyalty to suppliers is legendary.
John
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:12 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Missing index holes in doors
Van's subcontracts the fiberglass work and I think someone once
told me they sub out the weldments also. Can you say lowest bidder?
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? |
Wow, now that's incredibly beautiful! Awesome job Ray!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote:
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> I finally got my RV-10 painted and all back together this weekend. Here is a
link to the pictures on PicasaWeb
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> http://picasaweb.google.com/rdoerr10/PaintingN519RVMay2008
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> Thanks
> Ray Doerr
> N519RV (40250) 373 hrs on the Hobbs.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? |
Real Nice! Inspiring.
Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote:
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> I finally got my RV-10 painted and all back together this weekend. Here is a
link to the pictures on PicasaWeb
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> http://picasaweb.google.com/rdoerr10/PaintingN519RVMay2008
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> Thanks
> Ray Doerr
> N519RV (40250) 373 hrs on the Hobbs.
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| Subject: | Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? |
Ray, the process pictures allow us a chance to relate even closer to the
pride you must feel on the final product. I would bet those Columbia
(Cessna's) are feeling lonely on the ramp next to N419RV, that is one
fast paint job.
John Cox
40600
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 3:28 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10???
<Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
I finally got my RV-10 painted and all back together this weekend. Here
is a link to the pictures on PicasaWeb
http://picasaweb.google.com/rdoerr10/PaintingN519RVMay2008
Thanks
Ray Doerr
N519RV (40250) 373 hrs on the Hobbs.
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| Subject: | Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? |
Ray,
Looks really nice! Great design!
Mind sharing how long it took to paint, who did the work, cost??
John Testement
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:28 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10???
--> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
I finally got my RV-10 painted and all back together this weekend. Here is
a link to the pictures on PicasaWeb
http://picasaweb.google.com/rdoerr10/PaintingN519RVMay2008
Thanks
Ray Doerr
N519RV (40250) 373 hrs on the Hobbs.
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| Subject: | Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? |
The deal I made with the painter was that I would do all the prep of the fiberglass
including spraying them with 2K buildup primer. I also did all the
dis-assembly and re-assemble. It took about 12 man hours to do the dis-assemble,
which included removing all fiberglass parts, inspection plates, trim motors,
wheel pants, gearleg fairings, antenna's, cowl and spinner. Basically anything
that could be removed, was, include the data plate. It then took about
18 man hours to do the re-assembly which included installing the wing walk material
and the Teflon tape to the flaps. Since I ran out of time prepping the
plane, the painter had to spray the build up primer on the doors and cabin top,
the rest I had done, so he charged me $70 hours for that work. The total bill
was $6620.
A friend of mine dropped in on me when I was re-assembling the plane at the
paint shop and got a quote for his 3 color paint scheme for his RV-9A. He quoted
him $4500 if he completed all the fiberglass prep work up to and including
the 2K primer and $6500 if the painter had to do it all.
The painter is based on the field at Miami County Airport in Paola, Kansas (K81), also great BBQ restaurant on the field as well. The company is called Aircraft Refinishing Company Inc. and here is a link to there web site. http://aircraftrefinishingco.com/index.html
Thanks
Ray Doerr
N519RV (40250) 373 hrs on the Hobbs.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of John Testement [jwt@roadmapscoaching.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:00 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10???
Ray,
Looks really nice! Great design!
Mind sharing how long it took to paint, who did the work, cost??
John Testement
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:28 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10???
--> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
I finally got my RV-10 painted and all back together this weekend. Here is
a link to the pictures on PicasaWeb
http://picasaweb.google.com/rdoerr10/PaintingN519RVMay2008
Thanks
Ray Doerr
N519RV (40250) 373 hrs on the Hobbs.
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| Subject: | Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10??? |
So Ray, did you do all the tape work for the stripes, etc or just the bare
metal and fiberglass work. Did that include an etch primer or did they
alodine it, prime it, etc. What kind of paint system did they use? Imron,
PPG, etc?
Great looking airplane!
Bill S
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10???
--> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
The deal I made with the painter was that I would do all the prep of
the fiberglass including spraying them with 2K buildup primer. I also did
all the dis-assembly and re-assemble. It took about 12 man hours to do the
dis-assemble, which included removing all fiberglass parts, inspection
plates, trim motors, wheel pants, gearleg fairings, antenna's, cowl and
spinner. Basically anything that could be removed, was, include the data
plate. It then took about 18 man hours to do the re-assembly which included
installing the wing walk material and the Teflon tape to the flaps. Since I
ran out of time prepping the plane, the painter had to spray the build up
primer on the doors and cabin top, the rest I had done, so he charged me $70
hours for that work. The total bill was $6620.
A friend of mine dropped in on me when I was re-assembling the plane at
the paint shop and got a quote for his 3 color paint scheme for his RV-9A.
He quoted him $4500 if he completed all the fiberglass prep work up to and
including the 2K primer and $6500 if the painter had to do it all.
The painter is based on the field at Miami County Airport in Paola,
Kansas (K81), also great BBQ restaurant on the field as well. The company
is called Aircraft Refinishing Company Inc. and here is a link to there web
site. http://aircraftrefinishingco.com/index.html
Thanks
Ray Doerr
N519RV (40250) 373 hrs on the Hobbs.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Testement
[jwt@roadmapscoaching.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:00 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10???
--> <jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
Ray,
Looks really nice! Great design!
Mind sharing how long it took to paint, who did the work, cost??
John Testement
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:28 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Is it a Columbia 400/Cessna 400 or a RV10???
--> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
I finally got my RV-10 painted and all back together this weekend. Here is
a link to the pictures on PicasaWeb
http://picasaweb.google.com/rdoerr10/PaintingN519RVMay2008
Thanks
Ray Doerr
N519RV (40250) 373 hrs on the Hobbs.
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