---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/22/08: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:26 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple efficiency (Jesse Saint) 2. 05:31 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple efficiency (John Testement) 3. 05:51 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple efficiency (Jesse Saint) 4. 06:09 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple efficiency (Tim Olson) 5. 06:18 AM - Re: Ground Power Unit / Auxiliary Power Unit (orchidman) 6. 08:20 AM - Re: Gascolator (Doug Preston) 7. 11:36 AM - Re: Gascolator () 8. 11:48 AM - Re: 2008 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Tim Olson) 9. 12:35 PM - Re: Re: Ground Power Unit / Auxiliary Power Unit (Robin Marks) 10. 02:59 PM - Re: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) (Robin Marks) 11. 04:22 PM - Re: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) (Doug Preston) 12. 04:30 PM - Re: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) (Doug Preston) 13. 05:14 PM - Re: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) (Roger Standley) 14. 05:24 PM - west coast fly out (pilotdds@aol.com) 15. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: Door fit (MauleDriver) 16. 06:24 PM - Re: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) (Doug Preston) 17. 06:36 PM - Re: west coast fly out (Doug Preston) 18. 08:41 PM - Re: Re: Door fit (Rick Sked) 19. 09:20 PM - Re: Door fit (jim berry) 20. 09:38 PM - Time for a beer?? (McGANN, Ron) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:38 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple efficiency I haven't been following this thread very closely, so I don't know what all has been said so far, but you can twist the leading edge up or down a little bit to raise or lower the trailing edge to line up with the aileron. This, of course, has to be done before drilling all of the holes. You can drill a couple to hold it in place with clecos to see if it is right, then move it a little and drill others until it is right, then you will need to reenforce the holes that were off before finishing the wing. We now use the hinge method of installation, which still uses the same technique for fitting it in the first place. I very much prefer using the hinge because it not only looks much better, IMHO, but it can make the tip much easier to take off and put back on during an inspection. We still use a few screws up in the front where a standard hinge can't handle the curve very well. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On May 22, 2008, at 1:23 AM, McGANN, Ron wrote: > > > > I have no experience with splitting the trailing edge and attempting > re-alignemnt. I think I read that Tim O. tried this and had to > abandon > a tip in favour of a new one, so I did not even try. I think I have > also seen a post (from Jesse) about forming ('twisting?' the nose of > the > LE to raise/lower the aft edge. There is a bit in the archives on > this. > I would suggest the following order: > > 1. make certain the flap and aileron are on the wing and in the > trail position (flap fully up) > 2. align the trailing edge with aileron/flap (use tape to attach > the tip to the wing) > 3. drill the tip to the fuse > 4. attach the tip. > 5. Check the length of the tip - if the tip is too long, remove it > and apply some epoxy to beef up the inside of the TE in case you > need to > remove the epoxy at the the existing TE join. From what I can tell, > you > really don't want to separate the trailing edge. > 6. trim the tip and shape as required. > > YMMV, but this is what I would do if I had to do it again. > > Hope this helps > Ron > 187 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike > Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 2:06 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple > efficiency > > > Very interesting and informative. It seems that the wing tips only > affix > to the aluminum part ONE WAY - tight. But the trailing 8-10" seems > to be > the area in question - is that correct ? > >> From what I can extrapolate is it ok to affix the forward part (in > front of the aileron hinge) and then split the rear and install the > reinforcing section after the ailerons are fitted and trimmed for > flight > ?? That way the trailing edge is perfectly trimmed with the > aileron ??? > > Boy it is great having this resource !!!!! Kuddos to Matt. > > -------- > OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - exited cabin > top/door purgatory > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184304#184304 > > > "Warning: > The information contained in this email and any attached files is > confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended > recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any > attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email > in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been > taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, > however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the > sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus > checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to > your computer." > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:20 AM PST US From: "John Testement" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple efficiency When I attached my wingtip it had room to move inside the metal - kind of rotates - and the trailing edge could be adjusted up or down. I clamped the trailing edge to the aileron and then drilled the attach holes. All this was after I did not do this the first time and had to cut open the trailing edges, adjust and then re-glass them together. You should be able to avoid doing this if you clamp things together before drilling. I also had to cut about 1/2" off the trailing edges and also re-glass them. The tips were a lot of work. John Testement jwt@roadmapscoaching.com 40321 Richmond, VA Painting and final assembly do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:36 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple efficiency Very interesting and informative. It seems that the wing tips only affix to the aluminum part ONE WAY - tight. But the trailing 8-10" seems to be the area in question - is that correct ? >From what I can extrapolate is it ok to affix the forward part (in front of the aileron hinge) and then split the rear and install the reinforcing section after the ailerons are fitted and trimmed for flight ?? That way the trailing edge is perfectly trimmed with the aileron ??? Checked by AVG. 5:34 PM ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:05 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple efficiency You can also use some fiberglass resin with flox (mix very runny) and fill up the trailing edge, which will allow you to sand down until it's flush and then use cloth to reglass around the trailing edge. This eliminates the need to split the trailing edge and then reglass it from there. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On May 22, 2008, at 8:26 AM, John Testement wrote: > > > > > When I attached my wingtip it had room to move inside the metal - > kind of > rotates - and the trailing edge could be adjusted up or down. I > clamped the > trailing edge to the aileron and then drilled the attach holes. All > this was > after I did not do this the first time and had to cut open the > trailing > edges, adjust and then re-glass them together. You should be able to > avoid > doing this if you clamp things together before drilling. > > I also had to cut about 1/2" off the trailing edges and also re-glass > them. The tips were a lot of work. > > John Testement > jwt@roadmapscoaching.com > 40321 > Richmond, VA > Painting and final assembly > do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:36 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple > efficiency > > > Very interesting and informative. It seems that the wing tips only > affix to > the aluminum part ONE WAY - tight. But the trailing 8-10" seems to > be the > area in question - is that correct ? > >> From what I can extrapolate is it ok to affix the forward part (in >> front of > the aileron hinge) and then split the rear and install the > reinforcing > section after the ailerons are fitted and trimmed for flight ?? That > way the > trailing edge is perfectly trimmed with the aileron ??? > > Checked by AVG. > 5:34 PM > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:59 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Fiberglass Wing Tip Installation - simple efficiency I agree fully with Ron. I would absolutely make sure the flaps are mounted and all the way up, and that the ailerons are mounted too. I don't believe it matters a bit if the wing is on the plane though. Once the tip is in place, it can rotate around and cause the trailing edge to take different positions...not much, mind you but enough to make a difference. So what I did was to push the tip in place and forward to expand the fiberglass out to meet the metal everywhere, and had a helper drill and cleco. You want that tip pushed in forward tight so the tip fills most of the gap between the tip and skin......while maintaining the trailing edges of everything all in alignment. What you then have is a wingtip/aileron/flap combo that is all aligned in flight when the flaps are at -3 degrees in the reflex position. If the tips are too long, and I was doing it all over again, I'd probably get it all drilled and fit in place and then trim the tip back to the length I needed...but if it was going to trim enough to split the upper and lower tip halves, I'd glass inside the tip further before I started...just to maintain the same relative positions. Of course, you'd still have to make the upper and lower skins meet at a taper, so you couldn't let the tip get too thick at the trailing edge. You could also match them up and drill and bold thru the trailing edges to maintain alignment. If they're over 3/4" too long though, it could get painful. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying McGANN, Ron wrote: > > I have no experience with splitting the trailing edge and attempting > re-alignemnt. I think I read that Tim O. tried this and had to abandon > a tip in favour of a new one, so I did not even try. I think I have > also seen a post (from Jesse) about forming ('twisting?' the nose of the > LE to raise/lower the aft edge. There is a bit in the archives on this. > I would suggest the following order: > > 1. make certain the flap and aileron are on the wing and in the > trail position (flap fully up) > 2. align the trailing edge with aileron/flap (use tape to attach > the tip to the wing) > 3. drill the tip to the fuse > 4. attach the tip. > 5. Check the length of the tip - if the tip is too long, remove it > and apply some epoxy to beef up the inside of the TE in case you need to > remove the epoxy at the the existing TE join. From what I can tell, you > really don't want to separate the trailing edge. > 6. trim the tip and shape as required. > > YMMV, but this is what I would do if I had to do it again. > > Hope this helps > Ron > 187 > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:55 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Ground Power Unit / Auxiliary Power Unit From: "orchidman" Check out the article at http://www.wikihow.com/Convert-a-Computer-ATX-Power-Supply-to-a-Lab-Power-Supply I finished mine about a month ago and only did the 12v supply and left the other voltages alone. RadioShack had the banana connectors like I wanted for the plus and neg lead connectors and I used the switch on the back of the power supply as my on/off switch. The amperage available will be based on the size of the power supply you use. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Fuselage SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184343#184343 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:54 AM PST US From: "Doug Preston" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gascolator HAVE A SAFE, FUN TRIP WAYNE. BE SURE TO GIVE US A TRIP REPORT WHEN U GET BACK. A FEW OF US ARE PLANNING A WEST COAST TRIP IN SEPTEMBER. ANYONE WANT TO JOIN THE GAGGLE? DOUG PRESTON N372RV BHM On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Wayne Edgerton wrote: > I'm just finishing up my annual condition inspection and I've had two > A&P's ask me why my plane isn't equipped with a gascolator, to which I > didn't have a very good response other "I dunno". I searched the archive a > there were a couple of entries, one being from Randy DeBauw saying he didn't > know of any RV10 with a gascolator installed, but his post was nearly three > years ago. Has anyone installed or considering installing a gascolator? > > I know that the plans don't show or call for the installation of a > gascolator. The point they made with me is where does any accumulated water > in the fuel go then. > > Wayne Edgerton N602WT > > Heading up through Alaska next month with the 10. > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:58 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: RV10-List: Gascolator Wayne: You'll love the Alaska trip...I did it a few years back in my Arrow, and it was the best vacation we have ever done. If you would like, give me a call, and I will give you a few insights, suggestions, and do's and don'ts. My cell is 630-308-7476. Steve Mills N750SM (reserved) RV-10 40486 Slow-build Eggenfellner E-6TI Naperville, Illinois Finishing kit, engine install Do Not Archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Preston Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:18 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gascolator HAVE A SAFE, FUN TRIP WAYNE. BE SURE TO GIVE US A TRIP REPORT WHEN U GET BACK. A FEW OF US ARE PLANNING A WEST COAST TRIP IN SEPTEMBER. ANYONE WANT TO JOIN THE GAGGLE? DOUG PRESTON N372RV BHM On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Wayne Edgerton wrote: I'm just finishing up my annual condition inspection and I've had two A&P's ask me why my plane isn't equipped with a gascolator, to which I didn't have a very good response other "I dunno". I searched the archive a there were a couple of entries, one being from Randy DeBauw saying he didn't know of any RV10 with a gascolator installed, but his post was nearly three years ago. Has anyone installed or considering installing a gascolator? I know that the plans don't show or call for the installation of a gascolator. The point they made with me is where does any accumulated water in the fuel go then. Wayne Edgerton N602WT Heading up through Alaska next month with the 10. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:08 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: 2008 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping Ok folks, here's a little more OSH camping info for you. Today I spent a few hours getting things ready to make it easier for you to get info and send payment stuff. (Which, by the way, can be done anytime in the next month and it won't be too late) First, if you're not on the OSH list (also builders list), start by getting on that: http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html When you submit the form, it gives me the general base info that I use to fill in the builders list. It's a manual process, so don't be surprised if it takes me a couple days. Then, once you have access to the builders list, you can view it here: http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html There you'll find more info that I'll update as we get closer to OSH, and have OSH planning links for you to download info. Then, if you're going to get a campsite, we've got a little more and updated info for you, and I have a camping payment page here: http://www.myrv10.com/builderslist/CampingPayments.html (login required) There are a couple of new things and changes. First, you can pay by check or by paypal. Doesn't matter to us which one you use. Paypal does charge fees, and we did a little quick math and found that the fees would run between $8.50 and $10.50, depending on the date you start your campsite reservations on, as it's based on the total you're sending. So, to make it simple, I rounded it off to an even $10. Yeah, I know, Bob said $7, but I don't want to see Bob come up short, and any extra on that will end up going to the common campsite that we're buying as a gathering place. Now, if you pay by paypal, I also gave a couple options. First, some builders have asked if they can throw a little extra money our way, either for the group campsite, or just as a personal "thanks". To meet that request, I have 2 different payment buttons you can choose. One just pays us for camping, simple and easy. The other is a "Donation" button that you can use that will allow YOU to choose the total you send. The only thing I ask is that if you send any extra, let me know how you want it appropriated. We probably 1/2 funded the common site based on overpayments from our group dinners last year. I'm sure this year we'll have the same situation and Bob holds on to that extra to use the next year on our group site. But, if you want to throw anything into that site fund, just specify it. Otherwise, if you're one of those folks who just wants to say thanks, it's going to go towards some 100LL for N442PM, N204GS, and N104CD. :) To see the campsite reservations so far, here's a link: http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2008_Campsites.html Again, if you get a campsite, BE SURE to include your EAA number somewhere. So we're finally ready to get those plans in place and be organized. I'll try to keep up on the stuff as fast as I can. Oh, and anytime you want to update your info, just fill in the form at http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html and I'll just get it all updated for you. If you forgot your password, make sure to make a note in the comments area and I'll send it. Tim Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote: > Payment can be made by check ($260) mailed to my home address: > > Bob Condrey > > 706 South Fillmore Circle > > Papillion, NE 68046 > > > > Or via PayPal ($267) using my email address: > > bob.condrey (at) baesystems.com > > > > Please make sure you register on Tims website so that weve got your > info. Make sure that whatever method of payment you use that you > include your name, email address and EAA member number. I will drop you > a note via email to let you know that Ive received it. > > > > Feel free to email me direct or, if youre registered at at > http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html, give me a call if you have any questions > at the cell phone number listed for me. > > > > Bob > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:26 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Ground Power Unit / Auxiliary Power Unit From: "Robin Marks" Thank you everyone for your quick and useful answers. It seems like an industrious type can cobble one together for under $40.00. I opted for the: Samlex SEC1235M 30A unit for $129.95 http://www.hamradio.com/web/newcat/hrocat6.pdf That unit includes a display meter for voltage/current. This is a lot better choice than the one from ACS for $450+ Thanks, Robin ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:59:32 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) From: "Robin Marks" Doug, Keep me in mind for the west coast swing. I am based in CA (SBP) and would love to join in for a few legs if my schedule allows. By September the -10 should be have cleared the fly off period. If not I can always slum it in the 6A. Robin Robin at PaintTheWeb.com Do Not Archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Preston Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:18 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gascolator HAVE A SAFE, FUN TRIP WAYNE. BE SURE TO GIVE US A TRIP REPORT WHEN U GET BACK. A FEW OF US ARE PLANNING A WEST COAST TRIP IN SEPTEMBER. ANYONE WANT TO JOIN THE GAGGLE? DOUG PRESTON N372RV BHM On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Wayne Edgerton wrote: I'm just finishing up my annual condition inspection and I've had two A&P's ask me why my plane isn't equipped with a gascolator, to which I didn't have a very good response other "I dunno". I searched the archive a there were a couple of entries, one being from Randy DeBauw saying he didn't know of any RV10 with a gascolator installed, but his post was nearly three years ago. Has anyone installed or considering installing a gascolator? I know that the plans don't show or call for the installation of a gascolator. The point they made with me is where does any accumulated water in the fuel go then. Wayne Edgerton N602WT Heading up through Alaska next month with the 10. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:22:47 PM PST US From: "Doug Preston" Subject: Re: RV10-List: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) I WILL PUT U ON THE LIST. GLAD TO MEET NEW FLYERS ALONG THE WAY. THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE. MY NUMBERS ARE...H-205-823-2955 C-205-873-2955. REGARDS, DOUG DO NOT ARCHIVE On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > Doug, > > Keep me in mind for the west coast swing. I am based in CA > (SBP) and would love to join in for a few legs if my schedule allows. By > September the -10 should be have cleared the fly off period. If not I can > always slum it in the 6A. > > > Robin > > Robin at PaintTheWeb.com > > > Do Not Archive > > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug Preston > *Sent:* Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:18 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Gascolator > > > HAVE A SAFE, FUN TRIP WAYNE. BE SURE TO GIVE US A TRIP REPORT WHEN U GET > BACK. A FEW OF US ARE PLANNING A WEST COAST TRIP IN SEPTEMBER. ANYONE WANT > TO JOIN THE GAGGLE? > DOUG PRESTON > N372RV > BHM > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Wayne Edgerton > wrote: > > I'm just finishing up my annual condition inspection and I've had two A&P's > ask me why my plane isn't equipped with a gascolator, to which I didn't have > a very good response other "I dunno". I searched the archive a there were a > couple of entries, one being from Randy DeBauw saying he didn't know of any > RV10 with a gascolator installed, but his post was nearly three years ago. > Has anyone installed or considering installing a gascolator? > > > I know that the plans don't show or call for the installation of a > gascolator. The point they made with me is where does any accumulated water > in the fuel go then. > > > Wayne Edgerton N602WT > > > Heading up through Alaska next month with the 10. > > * * > > * * > > * * > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:30:51 PM PST US From: "Doug Preston" Subject: Re: RV10-List: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) WILL PUT U ON THE LIST. GLAD TO MEET OTHER FLYERS ALONG THE WAY. THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE. MY NUMBERS ARE H-205-823-2955 C-205-873-2955. REGARDS, DOUG DO NOT ARCHIVE On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > Doug, > > Keep me in mind for the west coast swing. I am based in CA > (SBP) and would love to join in for a few legs if my schedule allows. By > September the -10 should be have cleared the fly off period. If not I can > always slum it in the 6A. > > > Robin > > Robin at PaintTheWeb.com > > > Do Not Archive > > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug Preston > *Sent:* Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:18 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Gascolator > > > HAVE A SAFE, FUN TRIP WAYNE. BE SURE TO GIVE US A TRIP REPORT WHEN U GET > BACK. A FEW OF US ARE PLANNING A WEST COAST TRIP IN SEPTEMBER. ANYONE WANT > TO JOIN THE GAGGLE? > DOUG PRESTON > N372RV > BHM > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Wayne Edgerton > wrote: > > I'm just finishing up my annual condition inspection and I've had two A&P's > ask me why my plane isn't equipped with a gascolator, to which I didn't have > a very good response other "I dunno". I searched the archive a there were a > couple of entries, one being from Randy DeBauw saying he didn't know of any > RV10 with a gascolator installed, but his post was nearly three years ago. > Has anyone installed or considering installing a gascolator? > > > I know that the plans don't show or call for the installation of a > gascolator. The point they made with me is where does any accumulated water > in the fuel go then. > > > Wayne Edgerton N602WT > > > Heading up through Alaska next month with the 10. > > * * > > * * > > * * > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:03 PM PST US From: "Roger Standley" Subject: Re: RV10-List: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) Hi Doug,=0A=0APlease add me to the list also. I am based in Holl ister, CA (1C9).=0A=0ARoger=0AN291RV=0A=0A=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0A From: Doug Preston =0A To: rv10-list@matronics.com =0A Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:27 PM=0A Subject: R e: RV10-List: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator)=0A=0A=0A WILL PUT U ON THE LIST. GLAD TO MEET OTHER FLYERS ALONG THE WAY. THAN KS FOR THE RESPONSE. MY NUMBERS ARE H-205-823-2955 C-205-873-2955. =0A REGARDS,=0A DOUG=0A=0A DO NOT ARCHIVE=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Robin Marks > wrote:=0A=0A Doug,=0A=0A Keep me in mind for the west coast s wing. I am based in CA (SBP) and would love to join in for a few legs if my schedule allows. By September the -10 should be have cleared the fly off period. If not I can always slum it in the 6A.=0A=0A =0A=0A Robin=0A=0A Robin at PaintTheWeb.com=0A=0A =0A=0A Do Not Archive=0A=0A=0A=0A From: owner- rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Preston=0A Sent: Th ursday, May 22, 2008 8:18 AM=0A To: rv10-list@matronics.com=0A Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gascolato r=0A=0A=0A=0A HAVE A SAFE, FUN TRIP WAYNE. BE SURE TO G IVE US A TRIP REPORT WHEN U GET BACK. A FEW OF US ARE PLANNING A WEST COAST TRIP IN SEPTEMBER. ANYONE WANT TO JOIN THE GAGGLE? =0A DOU G PRESTON=0A N372RV=0A BHM=0A=0A On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Wayne Edgerton > wrote:=0A=0A I'm just finishing up my annual condition inspection and I've had two A&P's ask me why my plane isn't equipped with a gascolator, to which I didn't have a very good respon se other "I dunno". I searched the archive a there were a couple of en tries, one being from Randy DeBauw saying he didn't know of any RV10 w ith a gascolator installed, but his post was nearly three years ago. H as anyone installed or considering installing a gascolator?=0A =0A=0A=0A I know that the plans don't show or call for the in stallation of a gascolator. The point they made with me is where does any accumulated water in the fuel go then.=0A=0A=0A=0A Wayne Edgerton N602WT=0A=0A=0A=0A Heading up through Al aska next month with the 10.=0A=0A =0A=0A http://www.ma tronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp:/ /www.matronics.com/contribution ======================= ======================= ======================= ======================= ======================= ======================= ======================= ======================= =============0A=0A ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:52 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: west coast fly out From: pilotdds@aol.com Please add 728DD to the list-KSCK-thanks Jim ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:55:35 PM PST US From: MauleDriver Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Door fit What is the "double layer of masking tape method"? I intend to cut the doors down to about 1/16" inside the canopy edge and flox it back up. I'm trying to figure out a good way to scribe a line on the canopy, then trace it back on the door for cutting. Double layer of masking tape sounds good. Bill "futzing with the door" Watson jim berry wrote: > > John, > > I did what you are considering, and really like the results. I did not like the fragility of a 45 degree edge on the doors, and found the inconsistent rolled edge on the canopy impossible to trim to. So I squared off the door edges using the double layer of masking tape method to trim the door edges about 1/16 inch inside the canopy edge. When fitting the doors I focused on getting the bottom edge of each door properly aligned with the fuselage skin, as this was an area I did not want to use flox or micro. There were spots where the door side edges stood proud of the canopy edge, but that was OK because I knew that some of the window edges were going to be proud of the canopy also. Once the windows were installed, the canopy surface was built up with a flox/micro mix to match the window and door surface and a new canopy edge was created to match the squared off door edge. The result is a solid door edge and a nice, consistant matching edge for the canopy door opening. > > Jim Berry > 40482 > N15JB(reserved) > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:34 PM PST US From: "Doug Preston" Subject: Re: RV10-List: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) WILL DO ROGER. THANKS, DOUG DO NOT ARCHIVE On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Roger Standley wrote: > Hi Doug, > > Please add me to the list also. I am based in Hollister, CA (1C9). > > Roger > N291RV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Doug Preston > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:27 PM > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: West Coast Trip (formally Gascolator) > > WILL PUT U ON THE LIST. GLAD TO MEET OTHER FLYERS ALONG THE WAY. THANKS FOR > THE RESPONSE. MY NUMBERS ARE H-205-823-2955 C-205-873-2955. > REGARDS, > DOUG > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Robin Marks > wrote: > >> Doug, >> >> Keep me in mind for the west coast swing. I am based in CA >> (SBP) and would love to join in for a few legs if my schedule allows. By >> September the -10 should be have cleared the fly off period. If not I can >> always slum it in the 6A. >> >> >> >> Robin >> >> Robin at PaintTheWeb.com >> >> >> >> Do Not Archive >> >> >> >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug Preston >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:18 AM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Gascolator >> >> >> >> HAVE A SAFE, FUN TRIP WAYNE. BE SURE TO GIVE US A TRIP REPORT WHEN U GET >> BACK. A FEW OF US ARE PLANNING A WEST COAST TRIP IN SEPTEMBER. ANYONE WANT >> TO JOIN THE GAGGLE? >> DOUG PRESTON >> N372RV >> BHM >> >> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Wayne Edgerton >> wrote: >> >> I'm just finishing up my annual condition inspection and I've had two >> A&P's ask me why my plane isn't equipped with a gascolator, to which I >> didn't have a very good response other "I dunno". I searched the archive a >> there were a couple of entries, one being from Randy DeBauw saying he didn't >> know of any RV10 with a gascolator installed, but his post was nearly three >> years ago. Has anyone installed or considering installing a gascolator? >> >> >> >> I know that the plans don't show or call for the installation of a >> gascolator. The point they made with me is where does any accumulated water >> in the fuel go then. >> >> >> >> Wayne Edgerton N602WT >> >> >> >> Heading up through Alaska next month with the 10. >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> *http://forums.matronics.com * >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* >> >> ** >> >> * * >> >> * >> >> * >> >> > *http://forums.matronics.com > =======================ion href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronic============================================== > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:36:12 PM PST US From: "Doug Preston" Subject: Re: RV10-List: west coast fly out WILL DO JIM. DID U CALL A LITTLE EARLIER? THE ANSWERING MACHINE DISCONNECTED U TOO SOON. DOUG DO NOT ARCHIVE On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:22 PM, wrote: > Please add 728DD to the list-KSCK-thanks Jim > ------------------------------ > Stay informed, get connected and more with AOL on your phone > . > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:54 PM PST US From: Rick Sked Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Door fit Use two inch or wider if needed, masking tape applied right at the edge of the opening. Place the door in the opening in it's correct position and apply another layer of tape lined up with the outside edge of the tape underneath. The tape on top gives you line to cut the door to. Works good on the cowl too. Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "MauleDriver" Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:52:44 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Door fit What is the "double layer of masking tape method"? I intend to cut the doors down to about 1/16" inside the canopy edge and flox it back up. I'm trying to figure out a good way to scribe a line on the canopy, then trace it back on the door for cutting. Double layer of masking tape sounds good. Bill "futzing with the door" Watson jim berry wrote: > > John, > > I did what you are considering, and really like the results. I did not like the fragility of a 45 degree edge on the doors, and found the inconsistent rolled edge on the canopy impossible to trim to. So I squared off the door edges using the double layer of masking tape method to trim the door edges about 1/16 inch inside the canopy edge. When fitting the doors I focused on getting the bottom edge of each door properly aligned with the fuselage skin, as this was an area I did not want to use flox or micro. There were spots where the door side edges stood proud of the canopy edge, but that was OK because I knew that some of the window edges were going to be proud of the canopy also. Once the windows were installed, the canopy surface was built up with a flox/micro mix to match the window and door surface and a new canopy edge was created to match the squared off door edge. The result is a solid door edge and a nice, consistant matching edge for the canopy door opening. > > Jim Berry > 40482 > N15JB(reserved) > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:07 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Door fit From: "jim berry" Bill, See my Jan. 24, 2008 post "Trimming the cowling" in the archives. The same method works nicely for the doors. If you plan on creating a new edge for the opening, I would suggest placing the inner edge of the first tape where you want the new edge to be. If you place the first tape at the edge of the existing opening you will have to trim your door edge a second time. My door gap is the thickness of 3 layers of duct tape(about 0.020").Email me off list if you have questions. Jim Berry 40482 N15JB(reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184466#184466 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:30 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Time for a beer?? From: "McGANN, Ron" Anybody interested in drinkin' some beer with an Ozzie -10 builder?? (a fine red, JD, anything's good with me) I plan on having a long overdue honeymoon with my wife in the Florida/Vegas areas through early/mid August. (We need to get reacquainted after my 4.5 year love affair with an aiplane!!) Would love to catch up with any of the group while over there. Contact me off list . . . . Cheers, Ron 187 almost done. 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