---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/24/08: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:13 AM - VA-193 Clear Lens Wing tip fitting - Ouch (AirMike) 2. 04:16 AM - Re: Elevators (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 3. 05:28 AM - Re: Elevators (Mike Doble (Home Office)) 4. 05:46 AM - Re: Elevators (Lew Gallagher) 5. 08:49 AM - Re: Elevators (MauleDriver) 6. 08:53 AM - Re: Elevators (MauleDriver) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:13 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: VA-193 Clear Lens Wing tip fitting - Ouch From: "AirMike" Cautionary note on the VA-193 wing tip lens. I fitted my first piece the wrong way.......... I think that the big cut comes off what is the bottom (edge) of the half moon as received. I erred on my first wing tip and it is ruined. Vans charges $60 for a replacement so be careful My second one - cut properly fitted very nice. and came out fine P.S. - if anyone has a right wing lens that they have as a result of messing up only on the left wing lens - I will buy it .... -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09 Q/B Kit - exited cabin top/door purgatory Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184611#184611 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:11 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Elevators Hey Jesse, how many RV-10's are you up to now? Must be at least 5 or 6. J ust curious. Michael From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:19 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elevators In my experience it is not at all uncommon to have the horns not exactly li ned up. I think it's just an issue of the welds and lack of accuracy there . I have seen some that line up almost perfectly and some that are off by as much as 10 degrees, probably. Is this what you are referring to? Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:37 AM PST US From: "Mike Doble (Home Office)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Elevators When in trail position the horns are both vertical and lined up fairly well. I'm talking about the horizontal alignment. If you look from the back with the elevators in trail, the bottom of the horns are uneven by 3/16". I guess it really should not matter too much as long as they're drilled accurately. I'm really anal about things like this..ugh! Unless someone thinks otherwise, I'll move on and live with it. Do not archive Mike Doble Builder 40691 Working on my tail..... Waukesha, Wisconsin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:19 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elevators In my experience it is not at all uncommon to have the horns not exactly lined up. I think it's just an issue of the welds and lack of accuracy there. I have seen some that line up almost perfectly and some that are off by as much as 10 degrees, probably. Is this what you are referring to? do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:52 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Elevators From: "Lew Gallagher" Hey Mike, Ours were off by at LEAST that much. And after obsessing over it way too much, another builder told us, "you know, it's an airplane, not a Swiss watch" ... and we moved on. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 doors almost finished, pants on, WHEW! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184621#184621 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:03 AM PST US From: MauleDriver Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elevators If you are referring to the elevator counter weight arms being out of alignment when the elevator trailing edges are lined up, yes, I had the same issue. I concluded you just have live with it. I'd suggest not deciding to line up the counterweights instead of the trailing edges (obviously) or even trying to split the difference (appealing but probably bad). My thinking is that the the counterweight arms end up not being built exactly the same, perhaps one of the few spots where the CNC- match hole fabrication fails. Between the fluting and other machinations required to get the assembly together in the first place, I'm thinking that I may have pushed and pulled it together unevenly and cemented in some misalignment when match drilling and power squeezing. I'm pretty sure that given that experience, I could get both of them together more 'evenly' next time. I'll be checking arm alignments out at Osh this year... Oh, mine is about 3/16" too. I've moved on. Bill "those doors may not be so bad" Watson Durham 40605 Mike Doble (Home Office) wrote: > > Please help. I've attached the elevators to the horiz stab and > adjusted to have a roughly even gap at the trailing edge of the stab. > Height wise though there is a 3/16" difference between the left and > right elevator horns. Anyone else have this issue? Is there a fix or > is this a common misalignment? Just drill away and live with the > difference? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > * > * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:38 AM PST US From: MauleDriver Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elevators Well, I can see I answered the wrong question in another post. Yes my horns were uneven too in seemingly all directions. So much so, I found it difficult to maintain the prop edge clearance on one or the other. I obsessed so much about it that with the help of my Tech Counseler, we re-engineered it a bit so it looked like his Pitts. Bill "finding a boxed up YIO-540 makes a fine door sanding bench" Watson Mike Doble (Home Office) wrote: > > When in trail position the horns are both vertical and lined up fairly > well. I'm talking about the horizontal alignment. If you look from > the back with the elevators in trail, the bottom of the horns are > uneven by 3/16". I guess it really should not matter too much as long > as they're drilled accurately. I'm really anal about things like > this....ugh! Unless someone thinks otherwise, I'll move on and live > with it. > > > > * > * Do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.