RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 05/29/08


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:39 AM - Re: Memorial Day (johngoodman)
     2. 07:40 AM - Mistral engine in RV-10 (Michael Wellenzohn)
     3. 07:53 AM - Re: Mistral engine in RV-10 (Rick Sked)
     4. 07:59 AM - Re: Mistral engine in RV-10 (John Gonzalez)
     5. 08:11 AM - Re: Mistral engine in RV-10 (John Jessen)
     6. 09:34 AM - Re: 14" Spinner For Sale (Chuck Weyant)
     7. 09:35 AM - Re: Mistral engine in RV-10 (David McNeill)
     8. 09:51 AM - Re: 14" Spinner For Sale (pilotdds@aol.com)
     9. 10:25 AM - FW: [FlyRotary] Mistral coming to Ada, OK (Bobby J. Hughes)
    10. 10:42 AM - Re: [FlyRotary] Mistral coming to Ada, OK (orchidman)
    11. 11:11 AM - Useable fuel (David McNeill)
    12. 11:25 AM - Re: Useable fuel (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    13. 11:26 AM - Re: Useable fuel (Tim Olson)
    14. 12:25 PM - Re: Useable fuel (David McNeill)
    15. 12:53 PM - Re: Useable fuel (Dave Saylor)
    16. 02:40 PM - Re: Mistral engine in RV-10 (Chris and Susie McGough)
    17. 06:51 PM - Re: Mistral engine in RV-10 (Rodger Todd)
    18. 07:11 PM - removeable co-pilot stick (n277dl)
    19. 07:41 PM - Re: removeable co-pilot stick (orchidman)
    20. 11:04 PM - Re: removeable co-pilot stick (Dave Saylor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:39:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Memorial Day
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    Lew, '67 & '68 for me. When I was a kid, we didn't celebrate Memorial Day (I believe it was called Decoration Day back then). We celebrated it on April 26th. The holiday for soldiers and veterans was always Armistice Day, now called Veterans Day in November. I remember Audy Murphy riding in a jeep in our hometown parade that day - a least my fuzzy memory likes to think it was that day.... I'm surprised you were able to do those skins by yourself; I couldn't have done it without my wife running the gun. John -------- #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185369#185369


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    Time: 07:40:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Mistral engine in RV-10
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    I just found the picture of and mistral engine mounted in the RV-10 Michael http://www.mistral-engines.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/palleolesenrv10/3251-1-fre-FR/PalleOlesenRV10.jpg -------- RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185370#185370


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    Time: 07:53:42 AM PST US
    From: Rick Sked <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Mistral engine in RV-10
    Looks like the cowl will need "Danger beware of intake" on the side :) Rick S. 40185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:38:04 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: RV10-List: Mistral engine in RV-10 I just found the picture of and mistral engine mounted in the RV-10 Michael http://www.mistral-engines.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/palleolesenrv10/3251-1-fre-FR/PalleOlesenRV10.jpg -------- RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185370#185370


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    Time: 07:59:45 AM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Mistral engine in RV-10
    THAT IS SO DAMM COOL! John G. #409 > Subject: RV10-List: Mistral engine in RV-10> From: rv-10@wellenzohn.net> V10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>> > I just found the picture of and mistral engine mounted in the RV-10> Michae l> > > http://www.mistral-engines.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media /images/palleolesenrv10/3251-1-fre-FR/PalleOlesenRV10.jpg> > --------> RV-1 0 builder (engine, prop, finishing)> #511> > > > > Read this topic online h ere:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185370#185370> > > > ==> > >


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    Time: 08:11:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Mistral engine in RV-10
    From: John Jessen <n212pj@gmail.com>
    Must be the Turbo version, but can't see the other side to tell. 230 hp? do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:57 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Mistral engine in RV-10 THAT IS SO DAMM COOL! John G. #409 > Subject: RV10-List: Mistral engine in RV-10 > From: rv-10@wellenzohn.net > Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:38:04 -0700 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> > > I just found the picture of and mistral engine mounted in the RV-10 > Michael > > > http://www.mistral-engines.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/ palleolesenrv10/3251-1-fre-FR/PalleOlesenRV10.jpg > > -------- > RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) > #511 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185370#185370 > > > > > > &======================= > > >


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    Time: 09:34:25 AM PST US
    From: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
    Subject: Re: 14" Spinner For Sale
    I know I'm probably missing something, but why is everyone so hot on other-than-Van's-spinners? The Van's spinner on my 9A came out perfect and there's reason to believe my 10 spinner will come out the same. So why consider a spinner from somewhere else? Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin Marks To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: RV10-List: 14" Spinner For Sale RV-10 List, I purchased a spinner on eBay some time ago. The plan was to use it on my -10 project but I opted to purchase & use the Mustang Aero 14" spinner. Before I place the Spinner back on eBay I wanted to let the list know of this item. The spinner is available for $375.00 delivered. Sorry for the commercial but I figured it may be a way to save someone a few dollars. http://www.painttheweb.com/spinner/Spinner.htm Robin Robin@PaintTheWeb.com RV-4 Sold RV-6A 425 Hours RV-10 45 days or less??? Do Not Archive


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    Time: 09:35:42 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Mistral engine in RV-10
    Let's see it when it flies. My partner visited the Switzerland factory in 2005 and they could not fly their Piper test aircraft more than 30 minutes without overheating. He spent considerable time at the factory with the engineers. I also looked at their display at OSH 2006 and the entire cowling inside were taken with air ducts and radiators. If they have solved the heat problem it could be a good alternative engine. They have been trying to certify this engine for some time with tests at a flight school in Florida. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Wellenzohn Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:38 AM Subject: RV10-List: Mistral engine in RV-10 --> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> I just found the picture of and mistral engine mounted in the RV-10 Michael http://www.mistral-engines.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/ palleolesenrv10/3251-1-fre-FR/PalleOlesenRV10.jpg -------- RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185370#185370


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    Time: 09:51:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 14" Spinner For Sale
    From: pilotdds@aol.com
    It wont work with the aftermarket James cowl. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Weyant <chuck@chuckdirect.com> Sent: Thu, 29 May 2008 9:32 am Subject: Re: RV10-List: 14" Spinner For Sale I know I'm probably missing something, but why is everyone so hot on other-t han-Van's-spinners?=C2- The Van's spinner on my 9A came out perfect and th ere's=C2-reason to believe my 10 spinner will come out the same.=C2- So why consider a spinner from somewhere else? Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin Marks Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: RV10-List: 14" Spinner For Sale RV-10 List, =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- I purchas ed a spinner on eBay some time ago. The plan was to use it on my -10 project but I opted to purchase & use the Mustang Aero 14=9D spinner. Before I place the Spinner back on eBay I wanted to let the list know of this item. =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- The spinn er is available for $375.00 delivered. =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Sorry for the commercial but I figured it may be a way to save someone a few dollars. =C2- http://www.painttheweb.com/spinner/Spinner.htm =C2- =C2- Robin Robin@PaintTheWeb.com RV-4=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2- Sold RV-6A=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- 425 Hours RV-10=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 - 45 days or less??? =C2- Do Not Archive href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV10-List ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c -= - The RV10-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! -= --> http://forums.matronics.com -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 10:25:20 AM PST US
    Subject: FW: [FlyRotary] Mistral coming to Ada, OK
    From: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
    Cross post from our flyrotary group last week. Bobby Hughes 40116 Please excuse me if this is old news, but our EAA983 Chapter visited GAMI and Tornado Alley Turbo on Sat in Ada, OK, and they related that the Mistral rotary is going to spend several months in their test cell validating lots of different aspects of the design. It is due to arrive in mid June. I, for one, plan to visit again in August to maybe watch this baby run flat out under load. If you have not seen their hi tech test cell(s), you are in for a treat. (See attached photo) I vote we descend on them with a batch of rotary-powered aircraft! President Tim Roehl said that if we give him a call and set up a visit, we would be more than welcome. They have a VERY impressive facility which does lots of different types of engineering, but the most famous are the GAMI injectors for the piston folks, and at this point, over 525 twin turbo packages for the Cirrus factory for their G3. www.gami.com


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    Time: 10:42:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Mistral coming to Ada, OK
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    The OKC chapter visited last year and am very impressed with their facility. Just out side the window in the picture are stands for 2 engines and they can monitor just about any parameter that you can imagine. When we were there, they had a turbo engine on one of the stands and ran it up for us. They turned out the lights and you could see the turbo turn red hot under certain conditions. They showed the inlet temp, outlet temp, case temp, oil temp, and probably a couple more that I can't remember. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185396#185396


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    Time: 11:11:39 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Useable fuel
    what have flyers found to be the useable/unusable fuel in the 10? Any variability in the tank capacity?


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    Time: 11:25:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Useable fuel
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    4.5oz unudsble in my left tank and 5oz unusable in my right tank. Tanks will hold 30 gallons easy with a little room available for expansion due to temp changes. Bob N442PM flying . ------Original Message------ From: David McNeill ReplyTo: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: May 29, 2008 12:07 PM Subject: RV10-List: Useable fuel what have flyers found to be the useable/unusable fuel in the 10? Any variability in the tank capacity? Bob --------------------------


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    Time: 11:26:54 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Useable fuel
    I don't consider this "safe" fuel levels, but useable is everything it will hold, except for about 1/4 quart. I flew both tanks dry, independently, and there was maybe a cup of fuel or so out of each tank that I could get out of the sump. It amazingly can use almost everything in the tank. Of course, if you ran it that low, any slip or maneuver you did would probably unport the fuel inlet...so under 5 gallons I'd be really careful for sure. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying David McNeill wrote: > what have flyers found to be the useable/unusable fuel in the 10? Any > variability in the tank capacity? >


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    Time: 12:25:28 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Useable fuel
    Yes just checking. Landing without 5 in each tank would worry me. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Useable fuel I don't consider this "safe" fuel levels, but useable is everything it will hold, except for about 1/4 quart. I flew both tanks dry, independently, and there was maybe a cup of fuel or so out of each tank that I could get out of the sump. It amazingly can use almost everything in the tank. Of course, if you ran it that low, any slip or maneuver you did would probably unport the fuel inlet...so under 5 gallons I'd be really careful for sure. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying David McNeill wrote: > what have flyers found to be the useable/unusable fuel in the 10? Any > variability in the tank capacity? >


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    Time: 12:53:36 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    Subject: Useable fuel
    We intentionally ran one tank dry in flight, and found what others are reporting. We refilled it with 30 gallons, as close as the pump could measure. I've pumped each tank dry on the ground a couple times. Each time it left only a few ounces drainable from the sump. I'd say less than a cup. Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 831-722-9141 831-750-0284 CL www.AirCraftersLLC.com N921AC 136 hours _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:08 AM Subject: RV10-List: Useable fuel what have flyers found to be the useable/unusable fuel in the 10? Any variability in the tank capacity?


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    Time: 02:40:56 PM PST US
    From: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: Mistral engine in RV-10
    Hows the air intake! Like a jet cool! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:38 AM Subject: RV10-List: Mistral engine in RV-10 > <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> > > I just found the picture of and mistral engine mounted in the RV-10 > Michael > > > http://www.mistral-engines.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/palleolesenrv10/3251-1-fre-FR/PalleOlesenRV10.jpg > > -------- > RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185370#185370 > > >


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    Time: 06:51:01 PM PST US
    From: Rodger Todd <rj_todd@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Mistral engine in RV-10
    Guys and Gals, Go to http://www.rv10.dk where you'll find the full story of both how the cowl was made and the builders experience with the 300hp Mistral engine. Palle's done a magnificent job with this aircraft and we await the final product with interest - it should be something very special! Best wishes to all, Rodger --- On Thu, 29/5/08, Michael Wellenzohn <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote: > From: Michael Wellenzohn <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> > Subject: RV10-List: Mistral engine in RV-10 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, 29 May, 2008, 4:38 PM > Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> > > I just found the picture of and mistral engine mounted in > the RV-10 > Michael > > > http://www.mistral-engines.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/palleolesenrv10/3251-1-fre-FR/PalleOlesenRV10.jpg > > -------- > RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) > #511 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185370#185370 > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html


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    Time: 07:11:51 PM PST US
    Subject: removeable co-pilot stick
    From: "n277dl" <dljinia@yahoo.com>
    Anyone made the copilot control stick removable? My wife enjoys the stick being pulled for long cross countries in the -7. Doug -------- Doug &quot;Fools&quot; are always more creative than process people and will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185468#185468


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    Time: 07:41:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: removeable co-pilot stick
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    n277dl wrote: > Anyone made the copilot control stick removable? My wife enjoys the stick being pulled for long cross countries in the -7. > Doug There was a thread like this I believe over on VansAirForce some time ago. I am thinking about it but have not come to any conclusion yet nor has it come to the time when any decision must be made. From the thread I noted and stored one thing that might be able to be used. It is from McMaster.com (McMaster-Carr) and is called a 'Telescoping Tubing Quick-Release Button connector'. The part numbers of note are 92988a650 and 92988a730. Not sure if they would work but it is floating around in the mush between my ears. [Laughing] -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Instrument Panel, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185474#185474


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    Time: 11:04:14 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    Subject: removeable co-pilot stick
    To take ours out we just unbolt it using the per-plans hardware. As you move the stick full forward the bolt kind of presents itself. It seems like a bad job but it only takes a few minutes. A pip pin would make it even easier but it wouldn't be as tight. We used an Amp plug in the panel adjacent to the stick for wiring. Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 831-722-9141 831-750-0284 CL www.AirCraftersLLC.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n277dl Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:09 PM Subject: RV10-List: removeable co-pilot stick Anyone made the copilot control stick removable? My wife enjoys the stick being pulled for long cross countries in the -7. Doug -------- Doug &quot;Fools&quot; are always more creative than process people and will always find ways to ruin a perfectly good set of processes. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185468#185468




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