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1. 03:02 AM - Van's RV-10 Whelan Lights For Sale (Patrick ONeill)
2. 04:33 AM - Re: Initial Canopy trimming (MauleDriver)
3. 06:01 AM - Re: Exhaust Probe location (Dave Lammers)
4. 06:14 AM - Re: Exhaust Probe location (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
5. 07:40 AM - Re: Exhaust Probe location (Robin Marks)
6. 09:58 AM - from Tony (Jesse Saint)
7. 10:25 AM - Re: Initial Canopy trimming (Albert Gardner)
8. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: garmin 430 tube question (Chris)
9. 05:38 PM - Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (rsipp)
10. 06:14 PM - Re: Initial Canopy trimming (Lew Gallagher)
11. 06:29 PM - Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (Andy Turner)
12. 06:35 PM - Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (Bob Leffler)
13. 06:46 PM - Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (David Maib)
14. 06:53 PM - Re: Initial Canopy trimming (tomhanaway)
15. 06:56 PM - Doors/Plexi revisited ... again (Lew Gallagher)
16. 07:41 PM - Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (rsipp)
17. 07:43 PM - Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (Scott Schmidt)
18. 07:51 PM - Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (gengrumpy@aol.com)
19. 08:20 PM - Re: Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (John Testement)
20. 08:22 PM - nostalgic airport link (Steven DiNieri)
21. 08:46 PM - Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (McGANN, Ron)
22. 09:15 PM - Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (Rick Sked)
23. 11:10 PM - Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 (Chris and Susie McGough)
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| Subject: | Van's RV-10 Whelan Lights For Sale |
After several months off building due to time constraints, I'm back at it
and taking care of a few things I've been meaning to do for a while. This
is one of them.
When I ordered my QB fuse+wings, I also ordered the Van's Whelan lighting
kit (incandescent). I've since decided to go LED and I'm selling the Van's
lights. I ordered them last summer and the return window for Van's has
elapsed. I was going to try my luck on eBay but figured I'd offer them here
first in case anyone was looking for a set. I'd rather save someone on the
list some money then pay eBay the commission.
I purchased the Van's RV-10 lighting kit (wing tip nav+strobes, tail
nav+strobe, power supply and wiring.)
I'm selling the lights and power supply. I've already used some of the
strobe wiring so that is not included
I know LED's are the trend, but should anyone be interested in a set of
incandescent Whelan's, feel free to contact me off list. If no one is
interested, they probably go on eBay later in the week.
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715
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| Subject: | Re: Initial Canopy trimming |
Yes it is. I ended up with some thin spots.
FWIW, I used a variety of power tools to remove the material around the
door sill. Once I got to the point of getting the whole thing to settle
down close to the jog line, I finally found the Van's recommended 5'
sanding block to be an effective tool.
Bill "continuing to worry the doors into compliance" Watson
Durham NC
>
> I just want to double check on canopy trimming.
> With the canopy fitting nicely and flush within the door space, I still have
about 3/16" of jog space exposed on both sides of the rear bottom of the canopy
over the mid side skin. Lip is cut back to just under 3/4" so it isn't bottoming
and preventing canopy from going all the way down.
>
> So-- I've already trimmed past the scribe marks in the doorway area. It looks
like if I trim (the door area) enough to bring the back lower part of the canopy
flush with the jog line, I'll have sanded away almost all of the bottom of
the canopy door frame.
>
> Does this sound familiar???
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust Probe location |
The Garmin G900 install manual (using Alcor probes) recommends: A) 2-4
inches from flange, B) Not on any curved portion, and C) All at the same
distance from flange. I just finished this and it is a challenge to
satisfy all the requirements on the supplied exhaust system. There are
a couple more self imposed requirements you might think about: A)
Tightening screw accessible during its full range of adjustment (it
moves as the clamp tightens), and B) tightening screw assembly away from
spark plug access area for ease of plug maintenance.
Dave Lammers
just finished exhaust install
McGANN, Ron wrote:
> G'day all,
>
> GRTs web site has been off the air for a few days. Anyone know how
> far the EGT probes need to be positioned from the exhaust ports?
>
> cheers,
> Ron
> 187 almost done
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| Subject: | Exhaust Probe location |
Ron,
I haven't had any issues with their website, if you want a copy of the
manual emailed to you let me know. Here's the excerpt from the GRT EIS
manual on EGT probe installation.
Bob
5.2.9 Exhaust Gas Temperature Probe Installation
Start by drilling an 1/8-inch diameter holes at the appropriate position
in the exhaust manifold as indicated by the engine
manufacturer. If the manufacturer provides no guidance on the location
of the EGT probes, we recommend the
following:
1. Position the probe 2-8 inches from the cylinder.
2. Although not critical, it is preferable to position all probes the
same distance from the cylinder.
3. If possible, position the probes so that they are mounted on a
straight (not curving) portion of the exhaust manifold.
The hose clamps fit slightly better on straight portions of the
manifold.
4. Position the hole around the manifold so that the probe does not
interfere with the cowl, and takes into
consideration practical needs related to maintenance (does not interfere
with the access to the oil filter, etc.),
inspections, or probe mounting.
_____
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGann, Ron
(AUS BAeA)
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Exhaust Probe location
G'day all,
GRTs web site has been off the air for a few days. Anyone know how far
the EGT probes need to be positioned from the exhaust ports?
cheers,
Ron
187 almost done
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| Subject: | Exhaust Probe location |
Dave,
Are you installing the G900X? If so do you have a photo of
your panel?
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Lammers
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Exhaust Probe location
The Garmin G900 install manual (using Alcor probes) recommends: A) 2-4
inches from flange, B) Not on any curved portion, and C) All at the same
distance from flange. I just finished this and it is a challenge to
satisfy all the requirements on the supplied exhaust system. There are
a couple more self imposed requirements you might think about: A)
Tightening screw accessible during its full range of adjustment (it
moves as the clamp tightens), and B) tightening screw assembly away from
spark plug access area for ease of plug maintenance.
Dave Lammers
just finished exhaust install
McGANN, Ron wrote:
G'day all,
GRTs web site has been off the air for a few days. Anyone know how far
the EGT probes need to be positioned from the exhaust ports?
cheers,
Ron
187 almost done
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This is a relay from Tony Sustare.
I tried to put a blurb on the Matronics list about the details and
explanations about the shop closing but it was blocked. I was hoping
to let everyone know that I should be able to make everyone whole by
the end of the year and that I=92m still selling the fiberglass parts.
Any time you have a chance to pass that on would really help. Like I
mentioned earlier, the new email address would be
accuracyavionics@yahoo.com
.
Thanks
Tony
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| Subject: | Initial Canopy trimming |
When I was trimming my canopy I borrowed a Fein power tool from a friend.
This is one of those that the blade, although semi-circular in shape,
vibrates rather than rotates. Didn't throw off chips and dust and made it
very easy to cut the fiberglass. Beat the cut-off tool in every way. Worked
very well on the windows also.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
(I hope he has forgotten who he lent it to by now)
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| Subject: | Re: garmin 430 tube question |
Deems,
I see that and I guess I'll find a happy medium.
Also, the sl30 does not have countersunk holes like the other radios, what
type of screws did you use on the sl30 tray at the front (assume you had an
sl30) ?
Thanks
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: garmin 430 tube question
>
> And just to make it fun for you the width of the SL30, is different from
> the width of the 327 :-)
>
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> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
> Chris wrote:
>>
>> Yep, I only have the trays now. I see what your saying. I have this as
>> part of a stack. The GTX327 is this way too I think. But, the sl30 and
>> gma340 do not have the lip.
>> thanks
>> -Chris
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| Subject: | Service Bulletin 08-6-1 |
Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web sight.
We have some work to do.
Dick Sipp
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| Subject: | Re: Initial Canopy trimming |
Hey Tom,
Just to second the others -- I stopped when the door sill started to look thin,
and left the gap that Tim says will be filled at final fit before painting.
Here are some pictures I took today so you can compare. At one point I noticed
that the edge along the longerons needed to be shaved to allow the cabin back
to settle as I shaved the door sill -- it's a bit fuzzy (too lazy to climb inside
to take the pic) but see "interior cabin gap".
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
doors almost finished, pants on, WHEW!
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| Subject: | Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 |
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb08-6-1.pdf
This might be the only time I wish I was a bit slower in building a component
- Just got this one finished a couple of months ago, now i get to drill all those
nice rivets back out.
-Andy
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| Subject: | Service Bulletin 08-6-1 |
Dick,
Can you get it done before you get paint? Hopefully they haven't started
yet.
bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rsipp
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:35 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web sight.
We have some work to do.
Dick Sipp
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| Subject: | Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 |
I think I am going to be sick at the thought of taking the elevator/
pitch trim apart again! :-(
But! Better now than when I am flying.
David Maib
40559
On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:34 PM, rsipp wrote:
Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web sight.
We have some work to do.
Dick Sipp
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| Subject: | Re: Initial Canopy trimming |
Thanks to all. Got it to where I feel pretty good about the fit all around. One
nice thing is that all the fiberglass dust made the other scribe lines really
easy to see.
I feel like I just pledged a fraternity and went through hazing by fiberglass.
Nice to feel all the community sharing of experiences.
Tom
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| Subject: | Doors/Plexi revisited ... again |
Hey guys,
I thought I'd add this, nothing really new. I went ahead and sanded out a 1" shallow
with the die grinder, overlapping the plexi and the fiberglass, so that
when I laid a 1" strip of cloth and glassed it in, it would be flush.
Then came back over it with microbead/glass filler to make it really smooth and
ready to prime.
By the way, I used the recommended Weld-on to glue in the windows, but it seems
to me others are putting too much pressure with clamps and that may be causing
the cracks when released. This is not a wood/glue bond where pressure is critical,
it just needs to "float" in place with enough pressure to get any bubbles
out.
The resulting joint is extremely tough with the layer of glass on the joint --
I don't anticipate any cracking or problem with the joint expanding the paint.
One more observation: Others have commented about the paint peeling off the windshield
in rain at 200 MPH. I noticed that where I had ground out the plexi
to receive the fiberglass, it bonds perfectly. But if it spilled over onto un-sanded
plexi, the fiberglass would easily peel off back to where it was sanded.
I imagine the primer and paint will do the same on unsanded plexi, so I have
left a small margin so that I can sand the plexi up to where the paint line
stops. The Weld-on actually melts into the un-sanded plexi.
I've added the "scabs" over the door hinges for the weather seal, but didn't take
a picture of it after I also covered it with cloth/glass and skimmed it.
Later, - Lew
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| Subject: | Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 |
Bob:
I hope so, the airplane is in the paint shop now and was not due for
finish painting until next week. I asked them to "go slow" until I can
get the parts and get over there to install. The pre-paint disassemble
has already been done so that will help a little. I think the mod could
be done after painting but it would be more difficult and nerve racking.
We may have caught this one in the nick of time.
Regards
Dick sipp
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From: Bob Leffler
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
Dick,
Can you get it done before you get paint? Hopefully they haven't
started yet.
bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rsipp
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:35 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web sight.
We have some work to do.
Dick Sipp
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comht
tp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 |
As people complete this SB, it will be interesting to see how many others see some
cracks.
That will take some time to fix.
I swear that even after getting the plane flying I work on it 1 hour for every
hour that I fly it.
(not really but sometimes it feels like that)
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: rsipp <rsipp@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 6:34:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web
sight.
We have some work to do.
Dick Sipp
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| Subject: | Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 |
Join the crowd!
But I think I'm on the other side of the power curve now.....if only
the SB had come out when I had the bird apart for painting!
Not going to tackle this one till next ACI unless a crack appears.
Grumpy N184JM
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From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
As people complete this SB, it will be interesting to see how many
others see some cracks.
That will take some time to fix.
I swear that even after getting the plane flying I work on it 1 hour
for every hour that I fly it.
(not really but sometimes it feels like that)
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: rsipp <rsipp@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 6:34:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web
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| Subject: | Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 |
Best I can tell this mod does not effect the exterior paint nor require any
repainting. If any of you find out that this is not the case let me know.
My fuse is at the painter. The emp is not attached. I assume I can do the
mod before I do final assembly.
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Painting and final assembly
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andy Turner
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:27 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb08-6-1.pdf
This might be the only time I wish I was a bit slower in building a
component - Just got this one finished a couple of months ago, now i get to
drill all those nice rivets back out.
-Andy
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Andy Turner
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Checked by AVG.
6:52 AM
Checked by AVG.
6:52 AM
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| Subject: | nostalgic airport link |
hey guys,
i found this link pretty interesting, shows some airport history...
steve dinieri
iflyrv10.com
<http://www.airfields-freeman.com/> http://www.airfields-freeman.com/
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| Subject: | Service Bulletin 08-6-1 |
G'day all,
Removing AN470 rivets is greatly simplified with Avery's Rivet removal
tool (Part #40053). But removing the rivet shank without mangling the
longerons is going to be a right PITA. Anyone have any suggestions or
useful techniques for removing rivets from thick material? Driving them
out has not worked well for me in the past.
cheers
Ron
-187 (who stupidly thought he was nearly finished)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rsipp
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2008 10:05 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web sight.
We have some work to do.
Dick Sipp
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| Subject: | Re: Service Bulletin 08-6-1 |
Yeah but Scott,
You fly it ALOT!!!!=C2- jealous...another death in the family to deal wit
h today...not super close but close enough..
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Schmidt" <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 7:39:35 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
As people complete this SB, it will be interesting to see how many others s
ee some cracks.
That will take some time to fix.=C2-
I swear that even after getting the plane flying I work on it 1 hour for ev
ery hour that I fly it.
(not really but sometimes it feels like that)
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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From: rsipp <rsipp@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 6:34:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
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Yep but will give me something to do since the DYNON is still not back
from being repaired.
Thick material I take the head off give a tap and with pliers give the
driven part of the rivet a turn to loosen it.
Chris
Chris
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From: McGANN, Ron
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
G'day all,
Removing AN470 rivets is greatly simplified with Avery's Rivet removal
tool (Part #40053). But removing the rivet shank without mangling the
longerons is going to be a right PITA. Anyone have any suggestions or
useful techniques for removing rivets from thick material? Driving them
out has not worked well for me in the past.
cheers
Ron
-187 (who stupidly thought he was nearly finished)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rsipp
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2008 10:05 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Service Bulletin 08-6-1
Just saw a new service bulletin on the RV10 on Van's web sight.
We have some work to do.
Dick Sipp
p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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