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1. 05:54 AM - Re: Lost one of our brothers - NOT aviation related (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 08:59 AM - Re: SB (Jesse Saint)
3. 09:17 AM - Re: RV10-List Digest: ABF (James, Peter [SD])
4. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: Hartzell prop and IO540D4A5 (pascal)
5. 12:09 PM - Seminar Question (Dave Saylor)
6. 12:36 PM - IFR GPS (linn Walters)
7. 01:03 PM - Re: IFR GPS (SteinAir, Inc.)
8. 01:18 PM - Re: Re: Hartzell prop and IO540D4A5 (pascal)
9. 01:47 PM - Re: IFR GPS (William Curtis)
10. 03:16 PM - IFR GPS (Wayne Edgerton)
11. 04:28 PM - SB (David McNeill)
12. 07:11 PM - Re: SB (Sam)
13. 07:51 PM - Re: SB (Rick Sked)
14. 09:50 PM - Re: IFR GPS (AirMike)
15. 09:57 PM - Re: door pins (AirMike)
16. 10:46 PM - First flight and governor (Chris and Susie McGough)
17. 11:16 PM - Re: First flight and governor (John Dunne)
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| Subject: | Lost one of our brothers - NOT aviation related |
Well that just sucks. I've lost too many friends in the last couple years in
both aviation and my personal life. Indran was a hell of a nice guy and we hung
out together a bit when he was in OSH a couple years ago. I just bugged him
a little while back about when he was going to make it to OSH again. He will
be missed.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:45 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Lost one of our brothers - NOT aviation related
A fellow RV'er emailed me today to give me some sad news from
South Australia. One of our RV-10 builder brothers from West
Australia, Indran Chelvanayagam, has unfortunately passed. He
had looked forward to meeting many of us again at OSH, which
is where I first met him about 3 or 4 seasons ago. He was a
very friendly person, and I believe he did some good humanitarian
work in other countries for many people. He talked of all of
his American RV friends with great fondness. He was also a mentor
to some of the other builders in West Australia. His passing
was not aviation related. While I have no details, the way it
was put to me was "unfortunately Indran was suffering with depression
unbeknown to all his friends in our local town". I'm sure he
probably did not realize what a loss his fellow builders would
feel.
--
Tim Olson
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N256H
503 Hrs and no cracks
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jun 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, GenGrumpy@aol.com wrote:
> N184JM
>
> 65 hrs and no cracks.
>
> Great borescope tool is the SeeSnake offered by Home Depot for under
> $200!
>
> grumpy
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008.
>
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| Subject: | RE: RV10-List Digest: ABF |
I had 3 of my shipments sent by ABF (Already Been Forked up). They were in terrible
shape! One was upside down, despite big arrows and $ signs all over it.
It was covered on both sides with footprints. Another had the entire top sheared
off by the forks of the fork truck! I was lucky, my contents were not damaged.
Mike Lauritsen's crates had been speared by a fork truck and he had to
have entire skins replaced.
I sent complaints and numerous pictures to Van's - shortly after, FEDEX Freight
became an option. I have used them for everything since... including my engine.
I don't have a single complaint.
Thanks!
Pete
40100 - sometime later this year!
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| Subject: | Re: Hartzell prop and IO540D4A5 |
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| Subject: | Seminar Question |
We will be holding another seminar towards the end of August.
My question to the group is about topics. The composite classes are popular
and well attended, but if you'd like to see other topics, please let me
know.
For example, now that lots of 10s are flying, is there any interest in a
weekend class on annual inspections and routine maintenance? It's a
straight-forward plane but if you've never timed a magneto or changed brake
pads it might be worthwhile.
Or electrical systems, more in-depth than Sport-Air provides? Maybe more
layout and design, or specific hand-on tasks?
Firewall Forward? Doors?
Also, if someone on the west coast needs their top trimmed and fit in the
next few months, let me know. We need a volunteer to demonstrate for the
class.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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I posed the question of what's needed for LEGAL IFR operation, and this
was the reply I got. He lives in the certified airplane world but .......
The unit must be certified under either TSO-c129 or TSO-c146, be
installed in the aircraft, and be approved in that aircraft on a 337 via either
STC or field approval (if no STC for that aircraft exists). No TSO, no IFR
approval.
Since I'm planning on using the Odyssee
(http://www.mglavionics.com/html/odyssey.html) glass panel with it's
built-in WAAS capableGPS with RAIM ....... there's no TSO. Those of you
with glass panels that fly IFR with a built-in GPS ....... did you use a
certified GPS as backupor wing it ..... pun intended :-D .
Linn
so not archive
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Hi Linn,
The info is "part right". It needs technically and legally needs to meet
the TSO, but of course there is no requirement for an STC or 337. STC/337
are moot for experimentals.
Cheers,
Stein
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of linn Walters
>Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:33 PM
>To: RV-10; RV
>Subject: RV10-List: IFR GPS
>
>
>
>I posed the question of what's needed for LEGAL IFR operation, and this
>was the reply I got. He lives in the certified airplane world but .......
>
>The unit must be certified under either TSO-c129 or TSO-c146, be
>installed in the aircraft, and be approved in that aircraft on a
>337 via either
>STC or field approval (if no STC for that aircraft exists). No TSO, no IFR
>approval.
>
>Since I'm planning on using the Odyssee
>(http://www.mglavionics.com/html/odyssey.html) glass panel with it's
>built-in WAAS capableGPS with RAIM ....... there's no TSO. Those of you
>with glass panels that fly IFR with a built-in GPS ....... did you use a
>certified GPS as backupor wing it ..... pun intended :-D .
>Linn
>so not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hartzell prop and IO540D4A5 |
Strange!
I read-
Rob (or anyone else who knows)
Status on the composite blade testing completed yet?
-Performance on climb?
-cruise?
-smoothness compared to 2 and/or 3 blade props ?
-Any general thoughts?
Thanks!
Pascal
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From: "pascal" <pascal@rv10builder.net>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Hartzell prop and IO540D4A5
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There are nine FSDO regions and 83 offices within those regions and I venture that
each will have a different interpretation of this for experimentals. I think
if you intend to go this route however, you should get this in writing from
one of those 83 FSDOs . Otherwise, if you are ramp checked after completing
an RNAV approach, potentially you could be cited for not having an "approved"
GPS navigator. To avoid the ambiguity, most just go with an approved GPS navigator.
http://www.atlasaviation.com/FSDO%20Locations/FSDO_Locations.htm
If *I* planned to fly IFR in ANY plane, experimental or otherwise, then my primary
GPS navigation equipment WILL be TSO'd c129 or C146a certified. But that's
just me. YMMV.
To me an $8000 TSO C146a GPS/Nav/Com offers peach of mind, that a $500 non certified
GPS with RAIM (RAIM not proven to anyone outside the company--such as the
FAA) does NOT offer.
William
http://nerv10.com/wcurtis/
-------- Original Message --------
>
>
> I posed the question of what's needed for LEGAL IFR operation, and this
> was the reply I got. He lives in the certified airplane world but .......
>
> The unit must be certified under either TSO-c129 or TSO-c146, be
> installed in the aircraft, and be approved in that aircraft on a 337 via either
> STC or field approval (if no STC for that aircraft exists). No TSO, no IFR
> approval.
>
> Since I'm planning on using the Odyssee
> (http://www.mglavionics.com/html/odyssey.html) glass panel with it's
> built-in WAAS capableGPS with RAIM ....... there's no TSO. Those of you
> with glass panels that fly IFR with a built-in GPS ....... did you use a
> certified GPS as backupor wing it ..... pun intended :-D .
> Linn
> so not archive
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Linn,
I've attached are a couple of pages from Keith Thomasseen's great book
on the Chelton's, I hope he doesn't mind, that I think will help address
your question. I think he's a pretty smart guy and I would trust his
evaluation.
I have the Freeflight 1201 WAAS GPS, which is IFR certified and I use it
as my primary source, driving my Chelton's. I have standard steam gauges
to backup the Freeflight/Chelton's.
I hope this is able to help you out on your question.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
flying and staring my flight to Alaska Saturday.
do not archive
Subject: IFR GPS
From: linn Walters (pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net)
Date: Mon Jun 16 - 12:36 PM
I posed the question of what's needed for LEGAL IFR operation, and this
was the reply I got. He lives in the certified airplane world but
.......
The unit must be certified under either TSO-c129 or TSO-c146, be
installed in the aircraft, and be approved in that aircraft on a 337 via
either
STC or field approval (if no STC for that aircraft exists). No TSO, no
IFR
approval.
Since I'm planning on using the Odyssee
(http://www.mglavionics.com/html/odyssey.html) glass panel with it's
built-in WAAS capableGPS with RAIM ....... there's no TSO. Those of you
with glass panels that fly IFR with a built-in GPS ....... did you use a
certified GPS as backupor wing it ..... pun intended :-D .
Linn
so not archive
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as an example of why we need for info about the cause of the damage to
220RV.
I just received ,today, a new SB for my Glastar. In the SB ; the writer
states that all counterweights for the elevator must be inspected visually
for cracks in the aluminum where the screws hold the counterweight in place.
In addition it says that these counterweights must be inspected every
annual. Now the fiberglass tips have never been off my Glastar and the
building instructions have them installed with blind rivets. Big
change.................... Now the rest of the story. The only airplane to
experience a problem was a "two weeks to taxi " build that was being shipped
from the factory to the builders address. The elevator was
stored/transported by truck vertically without the fiberglass tip in place.
Damage occurred...Then somebody decided at the factory to issue an SB to all
flying aircraft. what a crock.
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N540MR
120 hrs and looks like new, no cracks!
Jesse Saint wrote:
> N256H
> 503 Hrs and no cracks
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On Jun 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, GenGrumpy@aol.com
> <mailto:GenGrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> N184JM
>>
>> 65 hrs and no cracks.
>>
>> Great borescope tool is the SeeSnake offered by Home Depot for under
>> $200!
>>
>> grumpy
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
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N246RS has zero hours, no cracks=C2-and it looks brand new, until I rip i
t apart this weekend and redo it. :)
Rick Sked
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam" <sam@fr8dog.net>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:05:01 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: RV10-List: SB
N540MR
120 hrs and looks like new, no cracks!
Jesse Saint wrote:
N256H
503 Hrs and no cracks
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jun 15, 2008, at 9:40 PM, GenGrumpy@aol.com wrote:
N184JM
65 hrs and no cracks.
Great borescope tool is the SeeSnake offered by Home Depot for under $200!
grumpy
do not archive
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I am a high time VFR pilot, but wanted my plane to have IFR capability.
I put in a Garmin 496 - non IFR GPS as my primary navigation system.
For the IFR requirements I was told to put in the following:
Garmin SL30 Nav/Com with external antenna (CDI on AFS3500 unit)
Audio Panel with Marker Beacon
Transponder
Timer (on AFS3500 unit)
Heated Pitot - Gretz G1000 (if I get it in a reasonable time frame)
Full lighting system - for night
optionally
Backup ADI, Altimeter and A/S
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - exited cabin top/door purgatory
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188227#188227
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Go for the Rivethead pin blocks. They are so good and so smooth that I consider
them a MANDATORY option. The standard system is so inferior to the Rivethead
system it is crazy to struggle with it. The Rivethead system is not perfectly
straightforward but it is pretty slick when it is finished.
--------
OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in "09
Q/B Kit - exited cabin top/door purgatory
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188228#188228
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| Subject: | First flight and governor |
Just recieved the Dynon back from Dynon which they replaced with a new one.
Did engine start today and due to a few reasons I had to run the engine
longer than I would like. I am not getting the 2700 RPM and I do I
understand I need to Adjust the governor but my question is can I go flying
now and Adjusted it after each flight till its right. I realy do not want to
start the engine again till first flight on Sat weather permiting??
regards Chris VH-ICY
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| Subject: | First flight and governor |
Chris what is your max static rpm reading?
John 40315
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie
McGough
Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2008 3:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First flight and governor
<VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Just recieved the Dynon back from Dynon which they replaced with a new one.
Did engine start today and due to a few reasons I had to run the engine
longer than I would like. I am not getting the 2700 RPM and I do I
understand I need to Adjust the governor but my question is can I go flying
now and Adjusted it after each flight till its right. I realy do not want to
start the engine again till first flight on Sat weather permiting??
regards Chris VH-ICY
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